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Partition Magic Ver8 and Vista's NTFS



 
 
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Old March 18th 07, 10:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
cutie_pyie
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Default Partition Magic Ver8 and Vista's NTFS

Hi all,

I have a Toshiba A135-S4427 Notebook that came preinstalled with Vista Home
Premium.
I want to use Partition Magic ver-8 to repartition the HDD into 3 total
partitions,
in other words - I want to creat 2 additional partitions.

I read on another board the following:
....Vista has a different NTFS than XP. It is a known issue that formatting a
drive/partition with Vista installed with a 3rd-party partitioning
application will be sure to create problems, again due to the different NTFS
format, since there are currently no compatible partitioning applications out
that work with Vista.

If I can get Partition Magic 8 to JUST create the partitions but NOT format
them, will Vista's disk management format them correctly to the right NTFS
for Vista?

Thanks a bunch.
Cin
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Old March 19th 07, 12:21 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Don
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Posts: 589
Default Partition Magic Ver8 and Vista's NTFS

cutie_pyie wrote:

...there are currently no compatible partitioning applications out
that work with Vista.


No longer true. The latest Acronis Disk Director (build 2160) is Vista
aware.

If I can get Partition Magic 8 to JUST create the partitions but NOT format
them, will Vista's disk management format them correctly to the right NTFS
for Vista?


If your Vista was pre-installed it probably takes up the whole disk.
If true, you will need to shrink one (or more) partitions to make room,
and there's the rub. I wouldn't be willing to trust an older app to
do the resizing of Vista's partition(s). I would trust the latest DD
from Acronis, however.
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Old March 19th 07, 10:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Michal Kawecki
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Posts: 126
Default Partition Magic Ver8 and Vista's NTFS

So, use Vista tools. Boot to install DVD, select Repair, Command Prompt,
then run diskpart.exe. You can there create, format, shrink and expand
partitions (with some restrictions, of course, because it's simple tool
without GUI).
--
M. [Windows - Shell/User MVP]
/before private reply change px with pl in my e-mail address/

"cutie_pyie" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I have a Toshiba A135-S4427 Notebook that came preinstalled with Vista
Home
Premium.
I want to use Partition Magic ver-8 to repartition the HDD into 3
total
partitions,
in other words - I want to creat 2 additional partitions.

I read on another board the following:
...Vista has a different NTFS than XP. It is a known issue that
formatting a
drive/partition with Vista installed with a 3rd-party partitioning
application will be sure to create problems, again due to the
different NTFS
format, since there are currently no compatible partitioning
applications out
that work with Vista.

If I can get Partition Magic 8 to JUST create the partitions but NOT
format
them, will Vista's disk management format them correctly to the right
NTFS
for Vista?

Thanks a bunch.
Cin



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Old March 20th 07, 10:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Andy Sweet [MSFT]
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Posts: 33
Default Partition Magic Ver8 and Vista's NTFS

You can also use Computer Management MMC in Vista to shrink partitions and
create unallocated disk space. From that you can create new partitions.

Check out the help topic "Can I repartition my hard disk?" in Help and
Support, or online at
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...4f4cc1033.mspx

Please let us know if that resolves your issue, thanks.

--
Andy Sweet
Windows User Assistance team
Microsoft Corporation




"Michal Kawecki" wrote in message
...
So, use Vista tools. Boot to install DVD, select Repair, Command Prompt,
then run diskpart.exe. You can there create, format, shrink and expand
partitions (with some restrictions, of course, because it's simple tool
without GUI).
--
M. [Windows - Shell/User MVP]
/before private reply change px with pl in my e-mail address/

"cutie_pyie" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I have a Toshiba A135-S4427 Notebook that came preinstalled with Vista
Home
Premium.
I want to use Partition Magic ver-8 to repartition the HDD into 3 total
partitions,
in other words - I want to creat 2 additional partitions.

I read on another board the following:
...Vista has a different NTFS than XP. It is a known issue that
formatting a
drive/partition with Vista installed with a 3rd-party partitioning
application will be sure to create problems, again due to the different
NTFS
format, since there are currently no compatible partitioning applications
out
that work with Vista.

If I can get Partition Magic 8 to JUST create the partitions but NOT
format
them, will Vista's disk management format them correctly to the right
NTFS
for Vista?

Thanks a bunch.
Cin




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Old April 4th 07, 03:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Elai
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Posts: 2
Default Partition Magic Ver8 and Vista's NTFS

I have a related issue:

I am trying to shrink my C: partition (from 55GB to 30GB) in order to create
a new partition. The message says there is 0 available space. I have disabled
system restore, and moved the pagefile to a different partition, but no
effect.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
E-

"Andy Sweet [MSFT]" wrote:

You can also use Computer Management MMC in Vista to shrink partitions and
create unallocated disk space. From that you can create new partitions.

Check out the help topic "Can I repartition my hard disk?" in Help and
Support, or online at
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...4f4cc1033.mspx

Please let us know if that resolves your issue, thanks.

--
Andy Sweet
Windows User Assistance team
Microsoft Corporation




"Michal Kawecki" wrote in message
...
So, use Vista tools. Boot to install DVD, select Repair, Command Prompt,
then run diskpart.exe. You can there create, format, shrink and expand
partitions (with some restrictions, of course, because it's simple tool
without GUI).
--
M. [Windows - Shell/User MVP]
/before private reply change px with pl in my e-mail address/

"cutie_pyie" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I have a Toshiba A135-S4427 Notebook that came preinstalled with Vista
Home
Premium.
I want to use Partition Magic ver-8 to repartition the HDD into 3 total
partitions,
in other words - I want to creat 2 additional partitions.

I read on another board the following:
...Vista has a different NTFS than XP. It is a known issue that
formatting a
drive/partition with Vista installed with a 3rd-party partitioning
application will be sure to create problems, again due to the different
NTFS
format, since there are currently no compatible partitioning applications
out
that work with Vista.

If I can get Partition Magic 8 to JUST create the partitions but NOT
format
them, will Vista's disk management format them correctly to the right
NTFS
for Vista?

Thanks a bunch.
Cin





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Old April 4th 07, 10:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Michal Kawecki
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Posts: 126
Default Partition Magic Ver8 and Vista's NTFS

Interesting - one of my customers have exactly the same problem. And
diskpart.exe show _very_ confusing informations about free space on
partitions...
--
M. [Windows - Shell/User MVP]
/before private reply change px with pl in my e-mail address/


"Elai" wrote in message
...
I have a related issue:

I am trying to shrink my C: partition (from 55GB to 30GB) in order to
create
a new partition. The message says there is 0 available space. I have
disabled
system restore, and moved the pagefile to a different partition, but
no
effect.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
E-

"Andy Sweet [MSFT]" wrote:

You can also use Computer Management MMC in Vista to shrink
partitions and
create unallocated disk space. From that you can create new
partitions.

Check out the help topic "Can I repartition my hard disk?" in Help
and
Support, or online at
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...4f4cc1033.mspx

Please let us know if that resolves your issue, thanks.

--
Andy Sweet
Windows User Assistance team
Microsoft Corporation




"Michal Kawecki" wrote in message
...
So, use Vista tools. Boot to install DVD, select Repair, Command
Prompt,
then run diskpart.exe. You can there create, format, shrink and
expand
partitions (with some restrictions, of course, because it's simple
tool
without GUI).
--
M. [Windows - Shell/User MVP]
/before private reply change px with pl in my e-mail address/

"cutie_pyie" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I have a Toshiba A135-S4427 Notebook that came preinstalled with
Vista
Home
Premium.
I want to use Partition Magic ver-8 to repartition the HDD into 3
total
partitions,
in other words - I want to creat 2 additional partitions.

I read on another board the following:
...Vista has a different NTFS than XP. It is a known issue that
formatting a
drive/partition with Vista installed with a 3rd-party partitioning
application will be sure to create problems, again due to the
different
NTFS
format, since there are currently no compatible partitioning
applications
out
that work with Vista.

If I can get Partition Magic 8 to JUST create the partitions but
NOT
format
them, will Vista's disk management format them correctly to the
right
NTFS
for Vista?

Thanks a bunch.
Cin






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Old April 5th 07, 12:39 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Richard Urban
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Posts: 5,520
Default Partition Magic Ver8 and Vista's NTFS

The built-in shrink utility will be able to decrease the partition size till
it bumps against the first unmovable/locked system file.

If you want to decrease the partition further you will need a 3rd party Disk
Management tool. I use Acronis Disk Director suite. The latest posted
version is 100% Vista compatible. After installing the program, create the
emergency CD. Reboot the computer and boot up with this CD. Do your
partition work from there. You will not be hampered with locked files.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban MVP
Microsoft Windows Shell/User


"Elai" wrote in message
...
I have a related issue:

I am trying to shrink my C: partition (from 55GB to 30GB) in order to
create
a new partition. The message says there is 0 available space. I have
disabled
system restore, and moved the pagefile to a different partition, but no
effect.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
E-

"Andy Sweet [MSFT]" wrote:

You can also use Computer Management MMC in Vista to shrink partitions
and
create unallocated disk space. From that you can create new partitions.

Check out the help topic "Can I repartition my hard disk?" in Help and
Support, or online at
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...4f4cc1033.mspx

Please let us know if that resolves your issue, thanks.

--
Andy Sweet
Windows User Assistance team
Microsoft Corporation




"Michal Kawecki" wrote in message
...
So, use Vista tools. Boot to install DVD, select Repair, Command
Prompt,
then run diskpart.exe. You can there create, format, shrink and expand
partitions (with some restrictions, of course, because it's simple tool
without GUI).
--
M. [Windows - Shell/User MVP]
/before private reply change px with pl in my e-mail address/

"cutie_pyie" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I have a Toshiba A135-S4427 Notebook that came preinstalled with Vista
Home
Premium.
I want to use Partition Magic ver-8 to repartition the HDD into 3
total
partitions,
in other words - I want to creat 2 additional partitions.

I read on another board the following:
...Vista has a different NTFS than XP. It is a known issue that
formatting a
drive/partition with Vista installed with a 3rd-party partitioning
application will be sure to create problems, again due to the
different
NTFS
format, since there are currently no compatible partitioning
applications
out
that work with Vista.

If I can get Partition Magic 8 to JUST create the partitions but NOT
format
them, will Vista's disk management format them correctly to the right
NTFS
for Vista?

Thanks a bunch.
Cin





 




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