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Xfi Soundcard
I just clean-installed Vista Ultimate 64 OEM. I do have an X-Fi Extreme Music
Card and the most updated driver for this card is really terrible. Might as well not use the X-Fi card at all. But from research I was able to install the original driver and apps from the cd that came with X-Fi. First, disable driver signing. Second, remove all drivers for this card along with the applications like Creative Media player and such. Third, reboot. Fourth, disable internet connection either by unplugging the cable or disabling the network adapter. Fifth, disable anti-virus (I'm using Trend Micro), so no interference with the installation. Sixth, load the cd that came with the X-fi Extreme Music Card ( I don't know if this will work on other versions of X-Fi). Click items you want installed. Watch screen for any prompts from Vista. IF Vista asks for your permission to find a driver for the device, click no. You don't want Vista to find the driver for you, and this is the reason why Internet connection is disabled. After the installation is complete, reboot. If there is no sound, go to Device Manager, look for Audio Device and click install driver. Make sure you have the cd in your cd drive. Browse to AMD64 folder and click on XP, and then enter. Cross your fingers it'll work. If not reboot. You should have X-Fi working now for 2.1. The Creative Media Player will also work, along with the Console. 3D works, Crystallizer works, Equalizer works, Mixer works, Creative Media Player Organizer works, Converter works. Works with Win DVD 6 Platinum, Windows Media Player, MEdia Center Edition. If everything is ok, make sure Anti-virus is ON, internet connection is ON. What doesn't work: Main volume, other channels than 2.1. I have not tested this on Games. Other note: Don't enable driver signing or Vista will reject the XP64 driver. Set your Windows Update to prompt you before installing update, that way, you can check what updates are being downloaded and installed. If the signed driver gets downloaded and installed, you're back to square one.---Simply roll the driver back. Do not download the driver or apps from Creative website as this can wipe out everything you just did. Don't download the Updater from Creative. It will install the latest signed driver which is crap. And if you have other audio devices in your system like Realtec---disable it through Device manager before installation. Hope this works for you. My system: Asus P5WD2, Intel Pentium D 940, 1GB DDR2 667 Patriot, Hitachi SATA 300, Vista Ult 64 OEM "Ludwig" wrote: C. Not all Windows Vista features will be available for use on all Windows Vista Capable PCs. All Windows Vista Capable PCs upgraded to Windows Vista will be able to run the core experiences of Windows Vista, such as innovations in organizing and finding information, security, and reliability. Some features-such as the new Windows Aero user interface-available in certain editions of Windows Vista require advanced or additional hardware. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...footnotes.mspx "chris p." wrote in message news I tried all mentioned suggestions, but it seems to be useless. So I have to wait till there are better drivers for these cards available. It's not a big problem for me because I'm still running XP on my system and so I take the chance to learn vista step by step. I only had the hope that there will be someone else with the same specific problem who could help me. By the way: life goes on and one day there will be a solution. Thank you for your help Chris P. "Not a Vista Fan" wrote: sb support said to install card with old drivers then update to new drivers. I know it isnt found by os but original installer software should install drivers anyway. if this doesnot work, try "clean uninstall". the clean way is shown on their web site, but it is a pain. I have sound for my games but no aux or cd in functionality. sb support says Vista problem not sb prob. Good Luck "Michael Solomon" wrote: chris p. wrote: i have the latest drivers from creative website, esp the 64bit ones, the xfi extreme music card doesn't appear in the device manager, although it works fine in my xp-pro os. It seems that vista didn't recognize the card during setup (the same goes for my sat-tv card). Both driver setups abort with similar error message (no hardware installed!). I have a new asus-board A8V-X, 2Gb RAM, Geforce 7600GS and with os xp prof I have no problems with these cards. I'm not sure what to do further more (I reinstalled the cards from pci socket, plugged it in again-hoping vista will find new hardware after starting-but nothing happens). Vista without sound makes no fun. Onboard sound I can only use with headphone. Do you think a reinstall of vista would help things work out better? I don't think reinstalling Vista will help. It's not unusual for an OS not to recognize some hardware device during install. I have an Audigy 2 Value card that wasn't seen in XP and isn't seen in Vista until I install the drivers. The fact the cards you mentioned work with XP Professional is pretty much irrelevant and I don't mean that to be critical of you. A lot of people read these boards and they all need to understand that new operating systems are more than just window dressing. New features, architecures and code have a ripple effect throughout the system that has an enormous effect on what is backward compatible. There was a major change to the sound subsystem in Vista and a great many soundcards, including newer cards didn't achieve compatiblity, even at a minimal or basic level until shortly before Vista was released and it's going to take some time before the manufacturer's get all the bugs and knks worked out. Even cards listed as having Vista compatible drivers as you are finding out are still having problems. I would take this to the Creative forums as I mentioned earlier because while these drivers are listed as basic drivers, they are supposedly no longer beta and Creative needs to know there are still some issues with their drivers. Again, I want to reiterate, it is not unusual for an OS not to recognize some hardware upon OS installation until the drivers for that device are installed. Clearly there are still some issues with the drivers for your soundcard and if you are having this issue with your graphics card, I'd assume there same there as well. -- Michael Solomon |
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Xfi Soundcard
I have the same card as you and I have no problem with the latest Creative
64-bit driver on Vista Business x64. A few of the more advanced features are not yet fully implemented, but the sound quality is excellent. "Art" wrote in message ... I just clean-installed Vista Ultimate 64 OEM. I do have an X-Fi Extreme Music Card and the most updated driver for this card is really terrible. Might as well not use the X-Fi card at all. But from research I was able to install the original driver and apps from the cd that came with X-Fi. First, disable driver signing. Second, remove all drivers for this card along with the applications like Creative Media player and such. Third, reboot. Fourth, disable internet connection either by unplugging the cable or disabling the network adapter. Fifth, disable anti-virus (I'm using Trend Micro), so no interference with the installation. Sixth, load the cd that came with the X-fi Extreme Music Card ( I don't know if this will work on other versions of X-Fi). Click items you want installed. Watch screen for any prompts from Vista. IF Vista asks for your permission to find a driver for the device, click no. You don't want Vista to find the driver for you, and this is the reason why Internet connection is disabled. After the installation is complete, reboot. If there is no sound, go to Device Manager, look for Audio Device and click install driver. Make sure you have the cd in your cd drive. Browse to AMD64 folder and click on XP, and then enter. Cross your fingers it'll work. If not reboot. You should have X-Fi working now for 2.1. The Creative Media Player will also work, along with the Console. 3D works, Crystallizer works, Equalizer works, Mixer works, Creative Media Player Organizer works, Converter works. Works with Win DVD 6 Platinum, Windows Media Player, MEdia Center Edition. If everything is ok, make sure Anti-virus is ON, internet connection is ON. What doesn't work: Main volume, other channels than 2.1. I have not tested this on Games. Other note: Don't enable driver signing or Vista will reject the XP64 driver. Set your Windows Update to prompt you before installing update, that way, you can check what updates are being downloaded and installed. If the signed driver gets downloaded and installed, you're back to square one.---Simply roll the driver back. Do not download the driver or apps from Creative website as this can wipe out everything you just did. Don't download the Updater from Creative. It will install the latest signed driver which is crap. And if you have other audio devices in your system like Realtec---disable it through Device manager before installation. Hope this works for you. My system: Asus P5WD2, Intel Pentium D 940, 1GB DDR2 667 Patriot, Hitachi SATA 300, Vista Ult 64 OEM "Ludwig" wrote: C. Not all Windows Vista features will be available for use on all Windows Vista Capable PCs. All Windows Vista Capable PCs upgraded to Windows Vista will be able to run the core experiences of Windows Vista, such as innovations in organizing and finding information, security, and reliability. Some features-such as the new Windows Aero user interface-available in certain editions of Windows Vista require advanced or additional hardware. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...footnotes.mspx "chris p." wrote in message news I tried all mentioned suggestions, but it seems to be useless. So I have to wait till there are better drivers for these cards available. It's not a big problem for me because I'm still running XP on my system and so I take the chance to learn vista step by step. I only had the hope that there will be someone else with the same specific problem who could help me. By the way: life goes on and one day there will be a solution. Thank you for your help Chris P. "Not a Vista Fan" wrote: sb support said to install card with old drivers then update to new drivers. I know it isnt found by os but original installer software should install drivers anyway. if this doesnot work, try "clean uninstall". the clean way is shown on their web site, but it is a pain. I have sound for my games but no aux or cd in functionality. sb support says Vista problem not sb prob. Good Luck "Michael Solomon" wrote: chris p. wrote: i have the latest drivers from creative website, esp the 64bit ones, the xfi extreme music card doesn't appear in the device manager, although it works fine in my xp-pro os. It seems that vista didn't recognize the card during setup (the same goes for my sat-tv card). Both driver setups abort with similar error message (no hardware installed!). I have a new asus-board A8V-X, 2Gb RAM, Geforce 7600GS and with os xp prof I have no problems with these cards. I'm not sure what to do further more (I reinstalled the cards from pci socket, plugged it in again-hoping vista will find new hardware after starting-but nothing happens). Vista without sound makes no fun. Onboard sound I can only use with headphone. Do you think a reinstall of vista would help things work out better? I don't think reinstalling Vista will help. It's not unusual for an OS not to recognize some hardware device during install. I have an Audigy 2 Value card that wasn't seen in XP and isn't seen in Vista until I install the drivers. The fact the cards you mentioned work with XP Professional is pretty much irrelevant and I don't mean that to be critical of you. A lot of people read these boards and they all need to understand that new operating systems are more than just window dressing. New features, architecures and code have a ripple effect throughout the system that has an enormous effect on what is backward compatible. There was a major change to the sound subsystem in Vista and a great many soundcards, including newer cards didn't achieve compatiblity, even at a minimal or basic level until shortly before Vista was released and it's going to take some time before the manufacturer's get all the bugs and knks worked out. Even cards listed as having Vista compatible drivers as you are finding out are still having problems. I would take this to the Creative forums as I mentioned earlier because while these drivers are listed as basic drivers, they are supposedly no longer beta and Creative needs to know there are still some issues with their drivers. Again, I want to reiterate, it is not unusual for an OS not to recognize some hardware upon OS installation until the drivers for that device are installed. Clearly there are still some issues with the drivers for your soundcard and if you are having this issue with your graphics card, I'd assume there same there as well. -- Michael Solomon |
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Xfi Soundcard
Theres got to be someting in the Ultimate that prevents Creative from going
full time in their drivers and apps from installing correctly. Maybe its because of DRM, or other proprietary technology. When I installed the latest signed X-Fi driver, the only thing that worked is the player and organizer. No equalizer, no mixer, no 3D, no Crystallizer, No ripping, converting. Even used the apps from Creative website with same results. Maybe it has something to do with the MEdia Center. "Cal Bear '66" wrote: I have the same card as you and I have no problem with the latest Creative 64-bit driver on Vista Business x64. A few of the more advanced features are not yet fully implemented, but the sound quality is excellent. "Art" wrote in message ... I just clean-installed Vista Ultimate 64 OEM. I do have an X-Fi Extreme Music Card and the most updated driver for this card is really terrible. Might as well not use the X-Fi card at all. But from research I was able to install the original driver and apps from the cd that came with X-Fi. First, disable driver signing. Second, remove all drivers for this card along with the applications like Creative Media player and such. Third, reboot. Fourth, disable internet connection either by unplugging the cable or disabling the network adapter. Fifth, disable anti-virus (I'm using Trend Micro), so no interference with the installation. Sixth, load the cd that came with the X-fi Extreme Music Card ( I don't know if this will work on other versions of X-Fi). Click items you want installed. Watch screen for any prompts from Vista. IF Vista asks for your permission to find a driver for the device, click no. You don't want Vista to find the driver for you, and this is the reason why Internet connection is disabled. After the installation is complete, reboot. If there is no sound, go to Device Manager, look for Audio Device and click install driver. Make sure you have the cd in your cd drive. Browse to AMD64 folder and click on XP, and then enter. Cross your fingers it'll work. If not reboot. You should have X-Fi working now for 2.1. The Creative Media Player will also work, along with the Console. 3D works, Crystallizer works, Equalizer works, Mixer works, Creative Media Player Organizer works, Converter works. Works with Win DVD 6 Platinum, Windows Media Player, MEdia Center Edition. If everything is ok, make sure Anti-virus is ON, internet connection is ON. What doesn't work: Main volume, other channels than 2.1. I have not tested this on Games. Other note: Don't enable driver signing or Vista will reject the XP64 driver. Set your Windows Update to prompt you before installing update, that way, you can check what updates are being downloaded and installed. If the signed driver gets downloaded and installed, you're back to square one.---Simply roll the driver back. Do not download the driver or apps from Creative website as this can wipe out everything you just did. Don't download the Updater from Creative. It will install the latest signed driver which is crap. And if you have other audio devices in your system like Realtec---disable it through Device manager before installation. Hope this works for you. My system: Asus P5WD2, Intel Pentium D 940, 1GB DDR2 667 Patriot, Hitachi SATA 300, Vista Ult 64 OEM "Ludwig" wrote: C. Not all Windows Vista features will be available for use on all Windows Vista Capable PCs. All Windows Vista Capable PCs upgraded to Windows Vista will be able to run the core experiences of Windows Vista, such as innovations in organizing and finding information, security, and reliability. Some features-such as the new Windows Aero user interface-available in certain editions of Windows Vista require advanced or additional hardware. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...footnotes.mspx "chris p." wrote in message news I tried all mentioned suggestions, but it seems to be useless. So I have to wait till there are better drivers for these cards available. It's not a big problem for me because I'm still running XP on my system and so I take the chance to learn vista step by step. I only had the hope that there will be someone else with the same specific problem who could help me. By the way: life goes on and one day there will be a solution. Thank you for your help Chris P. "Not a Vista Fan" wrote: sb support said to install card with old drivers then update to new drivers. I know it isnt found by os but original installer software should install drivers anyway. if this doesnot work, try "clean uninstall". the clean way is shown on their web site, but it is a pain. I have sound for my games but no aux or cd in functionality. sb support says Vista problem not sb prob. Good Luck "Michael Solomon" wrote: chris p. wrote: i have the latest drivers from creative website, esp the 64bit ones, the xfi extreme music card doesn't appear in the device manager, although it works fine in my xp-pro os. It seems that vista didn't recognize the card during setup (the same goes for my sat-tv card). Both driver setups abort with similar error message (no hardware installed!). I have a new asus-board A8V-X, 2Gb RAM, Geforce 7600GS and with os xp prof I have no problems with these cards. I'm not sure what to do further more (I reinstalled the cards from pci socket, plugged it in again-hoping vista will find new hardware after starting-but nothing happens). Vista without sound makes no fun. Onboard sound I can only use with headphone. Do you think a reinstall of vista would help things work out better? I don't think reinstalling Vista will help. It's not unusual for an OS not to recognize some hardware device during install. I have an Audigy 2 Value card that wasn't seen in XP and isn't seen in Vista until I install the drivers. The fact the cards you mentioned work with XP Professional is pretty much irrelevant and I don't mean that to be critical of you. A lot of people read these boards and they all need to understand that new operating systems are more than just window dressing. New features, architecures and code have a ripple effect throughout the system that has an enormous effect on what is backward compatible. There was a major change to the sound subsystem in Vista and a great many soundcards, including newer cards didn't achieve compatiblity, even at a minimal or basic level until shortly before Vista was released and it's going to take some time before the manufacturer's get all the bugs and knks worked out. Even cards listed as having Vista compatible drivers as you are finding out are still having problems. I would take this to the Creative forums as I mentioned earlier because while these drivers are listed as basic drivers, they are supposedly no longer beta and Creative needs to know there are still some issues with their drivers. Again, I want to reiterate, it is not unusual for an OS not to recognize some hardware upon OS installation until the drivers for that device are installed. Clearly there are still some issues with the drivers for your soundcard and if you are having this issue with your graphics card, I'd assume there same there as well. -- Michael Solomon |
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Xfi Soundcard
As I understand it, Microsoft radically changed the way Vista handles sound and
this is proving more difficult than anticipated for sound card vendors to release fully featured drivers. My needs are very modest and the current drivers suit my needs. Since Vista is shipping on virtually all new PCs now, I don't think Creative wants to loose the upgrade market and will soon release fully featured, stable drivers and applications for Vista. "Art" wrote in message news Theres got to be someting in the Ultimate that prevents Creative from going full time in their drivers and apps from installing correctly. Maybe its because of DRM, or other proprietary technology. When I installed the latest signed X-Fi driver, the only thing that worked is the player and organizer. No equalizer, no mixer, no 3D, no Crystallizer, No ripping, converting. Even used the apps from Creative website with same results. Maybe it has something to do with the MEdia Center. "Cal Bear '66" wrote: I have the same card as you and I have no problem with the latest Creative 64-bit driver on Vista Business x64. A few of the more advanced features are not yet fully implemented, but the sound quality is excellent. "Art" wrote in message ... I just clean-installed Vista Ultimate 64 OEM. I do have an X-Fi Extreme Music Card and the most updated driver for this card is really terrible. Might as well not use the X-Fi card at all. But from research I was able to install the original driver and apps from the cd that came with X-Fi. First, disable driver signing. Second, remove all drivers for this card along with the applications like Creative Media player and such. Third, reboot. Fourth, disable internet connection either by unplugging the cable or disabling the network adapter. Fifth, disable anti-virus (I'm using Trend Micro), so no interference with the installation. Sixth, load the cd that came with the X-fi Extreme Music Card ( I don't know if this will work on other versions of X-Fi). Click items you want installed. Watch screen for any prompts from Vista. IF Vista asks for your permission to find a driver for the device, click no. You don't want Vista to find the driver for you, and this is the reason why Internet connection is disabled. After the installation is complete, reboot. If there is no sound, go to Device Manager, look for Audio Device and click install driver. Make sure you have the cd in your cd drive. Browse to AMD64 folder and click on XP, and then enter. Cross your fingers it'll work. If not reboot. You should have X-Fi working now for 2.1. The Creative Media Player will also work, along with the Console. 3D works, Crystallizer works, Equalizer works, Mixer works, Creative Media Player Organizer works, Converter works. Works with Win DVD 6 Platinum, Windows Media Player, MEdia Center Edition. If everything is ok, make sure Anti-virus is ON, internet connection is ON. What doesn't work: Main volume, other channels than 2.1. I have not tested this on Games. Other note: Don't enable driver signing or Vista will reject the XP64 driver. Set your Windows Update to prompt you before installing update, that way, you can check what updates are being downloaded and installed. If the signed driver gets downloaded and installed, you're back to square one.---Simply roll the driver back. Do not download the driver or apps from Creative website as this can wipe out everything you just did. Don't download the Updater from Creative. It will install the latest signed driver which is crap. And if you have other audio devices in your system like Realtec---disable it through Device manager before installation. Hope this works for you. My system: Asus P5WD2, Intel Pentium D 940, 1GB DDR2 667 Patriot, Hitachi SATA 300, Vista Ult 64 OEM "Ludwig" wrote: C. Not all Windows Vista features will be available for use on all Windows Vista Capable PCs. All Windows Vista Capable PCs upgraded to Windows Vista will be able to run the core experiences of Windows Vista, such as innovations in organizing and finding information, security, and reliability. Some features-such as the new Windows Aero user interface-available in certain editions of Windows Vista require advanced or additional hardware. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...footnotes.mspx "chris p." wrote in message news I tried all mentioned suggestions, but it seems to be useless. So I have to wait till there are better drivers for these cards available. It's not a big problem for me because I'm still running XP on my system and so I take the chance to learn vista step by step. I only had the hope that there will be someone else with the same specific problem who could help me. By the way: life goes on and one day there will be a solution. Thank you for your help Chris P. "Not a Vista Fan" wrote: sb support said to install card with old drivers then update to new drivers. I know it isnt found by os but original installer software should install drivers anyway. if this doesnot work, try "clean uninstall". the clean way is shown on their web site, but it is a pain. I have sound for my games but no aux or cd in functionality. sb support says Vista problem not sb prob. Good Luck "Michael Solomon" wrote: chris p. wrote: i have the latest drivers from creative website, esp the 64bit ones, the xfi extreme music card doesn't appear in the device manager, although it works fine in my xp-pro os. It seems that vista didn't recognize the card during setup (the same goes for my sat-tv card). Both driver setups abort with similar error message (no hardware installed!). I have a new asus-board A8V-X, 2Gb RAM, Geforce 7600GS and with os xp prof I have no problems with these cards. I'm not sure what to do further more (I reinstalled the cards from pci socket, plugged it in again-hoping vista will find new hardware after starting-but nothing happens). Vista without sound makes no fun. Onboard sound I can only use with headphone. Do you think a reinstall of vista would help things work out better? I don't think reinstalling Vista will help. It's not unusual for an OS not to recognize some hardware device during install. I have an Audigy 2 Value card that wasn't seen in XP and isn't seen in Vista until I install the drivers. The fact the cards you mentioned work with XP Professional is pretty much irrelevant and I don't mean that to be critical of you. A lot of people read these boards and they all need to understand that new operating systems are more than just window dressing. New features, architecures and code have a ripple effect throughout the system that has an enormous effect on what is backward compatible. There was a major change to the sound subsystem in Vista and a great many soundcards, including newer cards didn't achieve compatiblity, even at a minimal or basic level until shortly before Vista was released and it's going to take some time before the manufacturer's get all the bugs and knks worked out. Even cards listed as having Vista compatible drivers as you are finding out are still having problems. I would take this to the Creative forums as I mentioned earlier because while these drivers are listed as basic drivers, they are supposedly no longer beta and Creative needs to know there are still some issues with their drivers. Again, I want to reiterate, it is not unusual for an OS not to recognize some hardware upon OS installation until the drivers for that device are installed. Clearly there are still some issues with the drivers for your soundcard and if you are having this issue with your graphics card, I'd assume there same there as well. -- Michael Solomon |
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Xfi Soundcard
I totally agree with you. I've read somewhere that Vista's sound processing
is faster than in any of the previous OSes Microsoft has previously released and that causes problems with the current sound cards. Give it another year or so for the vendors to catch up with their driver or software. Hopefully, no hardware changes are required on the vendor's part to make this happen. For the meantime, all we can do is wait patiently for the best. "Cal Bear '66" wrote: As I understand it, Microsoft radically changed the way Vista handles sound and this is proving more difficult than anticipated for sound card vendors to release fully featured drivers. My needs are very modest and the current drivers suit my needs. Since Vista is shipping on virtually all new PCs now, I don't think Creative wants to loose the upgrade market and will soon release fully featured, stable drivers and applications for Vista. "Art" wrote in message news Theres got to be someting in the Ultimate that prevents Creative from going full time in their drivers and apps from installing correctly. Maybe its because of DRM, or other proprietary technology. When I installed the latest signed X-Fi driver, the only thing that worked is the player and organizer. No equalizer, no mixer, no 3D, no Crystallizer, No ripping, converting. Even used the apps from Creative website with same results. Maybe it has something to do with the MEdia Center. "Cal Bear '66" wrote: I have the same card as you and I have no problem with the latest Creative 64-bit driver on Vista Business x64. A few of the more advanced features are not yet fully implemented, but the sound quality is excellent. "Art" wrote in message ... I just clean-installed Vista Ultimate 64 OEM. I do have an X-Fi Extreme Music Card and the most updated driver for this card is really terrible. Might as well not use the X-Fi card at all. But from research I was able to install the original driver and apps from the cd that came with X-Fi. First, disable driver signing. Second, remove all drivers for this card along with the applications like Creative Media player and such. Third, reboot. Fourth, disable internet connection either by unplugging the cable or disabling the network adapter. Fifth, disable anti-virus (I'm using Trend Micro), so no interference with the installation. Sixth, load the cd that came with the X-fi Extreme Music Card ( I don't know if this will work on other versions of X-Fi). Click items you want installed. Watch screen for any prompts from Vista. IF Vista asks for your permission to find a driver for the device, click no. You don't want Vista to find the driver for you, and this is the reason why Internet connection is disabled. After the installation is complete, reboot. If there is no sound, go to Device Manager, look for Audio Device and click install driver. Make sure you have the cd in your cd drive. Browse to AMD64 folder and click on XP, and then enter. Cross your fingers it'll work. If not reboot. You should have X-Fi working now for 2.1. The Creative Media Player will also work, along with the Console. 3D works, Crystallizer works, Equalizer works, Mixer works, Creative Media Player Organizer works, Converter works. Works with Win DVD 6 Platinum, Windows Media Player, MEdia Center Edition. If everything is ok, make sure Anti-virus is ON, internet connection is ON. What doesn't work: Main volume, other channels than 2.1. I have not tested this on Games. Other note: Don't enable driver signing or Vista will reject the XP64 driver. Set your Windows Update to prompt you before installing update, that way, you can check what updates are being downloaded and installed. If the signed driver gets downloaded and installed, you're back to square one.---Simply roll the driver back. Do not download the driver or apps from Creative website as this can wipe out everything you just did. Don't download the Updater from Creative. It will install the latest signed driver which is crap. And if you have other audio devices in your system like Realtec---disable it through Device manager before installation. Hope this works for you. My system: Asus P5WD2, Intel Pentium D 940, 1GB DDR2 667 Patriot, Hitachi SATA 300, Vista Ult 64 OEM "Ludwig" wrote: C. Not all Windows Vista features will be available for use on all Windows Vista Capable PCs. All Windows Vista Capable PCs upgraded to Windows Vista will be able to run the core experiences of Windows Vista, such as innovations in organizing and finding information, security, and reliability. Some features-such as the new Windows Aero user interface-available in certain editions of Windows Vista require advanced or additional hardware. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...footnotes.mspx "chris p." wrote in message news I tried all mentioned suggestions, but it seems to be useless. So I have to wait till there are better drivers for these cards available. It's not a big problem for me because I'm still running XP on my system and so I take the chance to learn vista step by step. I only had the hope that there will be someone else with the same specific problem who could help me. By the way: life goes on and one day there will be a solution. Thank you for your help Chris P. "Not a Vista Fan" wrote: sb support said to install card with old drivers then update to new drivers. I know it isnt found by os but original installer software should install drivers anyway. if this doesnot work, try "clean uninstall". the clean way is shown on their web site, but it is a pain. I have sound for my games but no aux or cd in functionality. sb support says Vista problem not sb prob. Good Luck "Michael Solomon" wrote: chris p. wrote: i have the latest drivers from creative website, esp the 64bit ones, the xfi extreme music card doesn't appear in the device manager, although it works fine in my xp-pro os. It seems that vista didn't recognize the card during setup (the same goes for my sat-tv card). Both driver setups abort with similar error message (no hardware installed!). I have a new asus-board A8V-X, 2Gb RAM, Geforce 7600GS and with os xp prof I have no problems with these cards. I'm not sure what to do further more (I reinstalled the cards from pci socket, plugged it in again-hoping vista will find new hardware after starting-but nothing happens). Vista without sound makes no fun. Onboard sound I can only use with headphone. Do you think a reinstall of vista would help things work out better? I don't think reinstalling Vista will help. It's not unusual for an OS not to recognize some hardware device during install. I have an Audigy 2 Value card that wasn't seen in XP and isn't seen in Vista until I install the drivers. The fact the cards you mentioned work with XP Professional is pretty much irrelevant and I don't mean that to be critical of you. A lot of people read these boards and they all need to understand that new operating systems are more than just window dressing. New features, architecures and code have a ripple effect throughout the system that has an enormous effect on what is backward compatible. There was a major change to the sound subsystem in Vista and a great many soundcards, including newer cards didn't achieve compatiblity, even at a minimal or basic level until shortly before Vista was released and it's going to take some time before the manufacturer's get all the bugs and knks worked out. Even cards listed as having Vista compatible drivers as you are finding out are still having problems. I would take this to the Creative forums as I mentioned earlier because while these drivers are listed as basic drivers, they are supposedly no longer beta and Creative needs to know there are still some issues with their drivers. Again, I want to reiterate, it is not unusual for an OS not to recognize some hardware upon OS installation until the drivers for that device are installed. Clearly there are still some issues with the drivers for your soundcard and if you are having this issue with your graphics card, I'd assume there same there as well. -- Michael Solomon |
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