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  #11 (permalink)  
Old May 2nd 07, 04:52 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
art
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 38
Default Xfi Soundcard

I just clean-installed Vista Ultimate 64 OEM. I do have an X-Fi Extreme Music
Card and the most updated driver for this card is really terrible. Might as
well not use the X-Fi card at all. But from research I was able to install
the original driver and apps from the cd that came with X-Fi. First, disable
driver signing. Second, remove all drivers for this card along with the
applications like Creative Media player and such. Third, reboot. Fourth,
disable internet connection either by unplugging the cable or disabling the
network adapter. Fifth, disable anti-virus (I'm using Trend Micro), so no
interference with the installation. Sixth, load the cd that came with the
X-fi Extreme Music Card ( I don't know if this will work on other versions of
X-Fi). Click items you want installed. Watch screen for any prompts from
Vista. IF Vista asks for your permission to find a driver for the device,
click no. You don't want Vista to find the driver for you, and this is the
reason why Internet connection is disabled. After the installation is
complete, reboot. If there is no sound, go to Device Manager, look for Audio
Device and click install driver. Make sure you have the cd in your cd drive.
Browse to AMD64 folder and click on XP, and then enter. Cross your fingers
it'll work. If not reboot. You should have X-Fi working now for 2.1. The
Creative Media Player will also work, along with the Console. 3D works,
Crystallizer works, Equalizer works, Mixer works, Creative Media Player
Organizer works, Converter works. Works with Win DVD 6 Platinum, Windows
Media Player, MEdia Center Edition. If everything is ok, make sure Anti-virus
is ON, internet connection is ON.

What doesn't work: Main volume, other channels than 2.1. I have not tested
this on Games.

Other note: Don't enable driver signing or Vista will reject the XP64
driver. Set your Windows Update to prompt you before installing update, that
way, you can check what updates are being downloaded and installed. If the
signed driver gets downloaded and installed, you're back to square
one.---Simply roll the driver back.
Do not download the driver or apps from Creative website as this can wipe
out everything you just did. Don't download the Updater from Creative. It
will install the latest signed driver which is crap. And if you have other
audio devices in your system like Realtec---disable it through Device manager
before installation.
Hope this works for you.



My system: Asus P5WD2, Intel Pentium D 940, 1GB DDR2 667 Patriot, Hitachi
SATA 300, Vista Ult 64 OEM

"Ludwig" wrote:

C. Not all Windows Vista features will be available for use on all Windows
Vista Capable PCs. All Windows Vista Capable PCs upgraded to Windows Vista
will be able to run the core experiences of Windows Vista, such as
innovations in organizing and finding information, security, and
reliability. Some features-such as the new Windows Aero user
interface-available in certain editions of Windows Vista require advanced or
additional hardware.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...footnotes.mspx

"chris p." wrote in message
news
I tried all mentioned suggestions, but it seems to be useless.
So I have to wait till there are better drivers for these cards available.
It's not a big problem for me because I'm still running XP on my system
and
so I take the chance to learn vista step by step. I only had the hope that
there will be someone else with the same specific problem who could help
me.
By the way: life goes on and one day there will be a solution.
Thank you for your help

Chris P.

"Not a Vista Fan" wrote:

sb support said to install card with old drivers then update to new
drivers.
I know it isnt found by os but original installer software should install
drivers anyway.
if this doesnot work, try "clean uninstall".
the clean way is shown on their web site, but it is a pain. I have sound
for my games but no aux or cd in functionality. sb support says Vista
problem not sb prob.
Good Luck

"Michael Solomon" wrote:

chris p. wrote:
i have the latest drivers from creative website, esp the 64bit ones,
the xfi extreme music card doesn't appear in the device manager,
although it works fine in my xp-pro os. It seems that vista didn't
recognize the card during setup (the same goes for my sat-tv card).
Both driver setups abort with similar error message (no hardware
installed!). I have a new asus-board A8V-X, 2Gb RAM, Geforce 7600GS
and with os xp prof I have no problems with these cards.
I'm not sure what to do further more (I reinstalled the cards from
pci
socket, plugged it in again-hoping vista will find new hardware after
starting-but nothing happens).
Vista without sound makes no fun. Onboard sound I can only use with
headphone. Do you think a reinstall of vista would help things work
out better?

I don't think reinstalling Vista will help. It's not unusual for an OS
not
to recognize some hardware device during install. I have an Audigy 2
Value
card that wasn't seen in XP and isn't seen in Vista until I install the
drivers. The fact the cards you mentioned work with XP Professional is
pretty much irrelevant and I don't mean that to be critical of you. A
lot
of people read these boards and they all need to understand that new
operating systems are more than just window dressing. New features,
architecures and code have a ripple effect throughout the system that
has an
enormous effect on what is backward compatible.

There was a major change to the sound subsystem in Vista and a great
many
soundcards, including newer cards didn't achieve compatiblity, even at
a
minimal or basic level until shortly before Vista was released and it's
going to take some time before the manufacturer's get all the bugs and
knks
worked out. Even cards listed as having Vista compatible drivers as
you are
finding out are still having problems.

I would take this to the Creative forums as I mentioned earlier because
while these drivers are listed as basic drivers, they are supposedly no
longer beta and Creative needs to know there are still some issues with
their drivers.

Again, I want to reiterate, it is not unusual for an OS not to
recognize
some hardware upon OS installation until the drivers for that device
are
installed. Clearly there are still some issues with the drivers for
your
soundcard and if you are having this issue with your graphics card, I'd
assume there same there as well.

--
Michael Solomon






  #12 (permalink)  
Old May 2nd 07, 03:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Cal Bear '66
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,324
Default Xfi Soundcard

I have the same card as you and I have no problem with the latest Creative
64-bit driver on Vista Business x64. A few of the more advanced features are not
yet fully implemented, but the sound quality is excellent.


"Art" wrote in message
...
I just clean-installed Vista Ultimate 64 OEM. I do have an X-Fi Extreme Music
Card and the most updated driver for this card is really terrible. Might as
well not use the X-Fi card at all. But from research I was able to install
the original driver and apps from the cd that came with X-Fi. First, disable
driver signing. Second, remove all drivers for this card along with the
applications like Creative Media player and such. Third, reboot. Fourth,
disable internet connection either by unplugging the cable or disabling the
network adapter. Fifth, disable anti-virus (I'm using Trend Micro), so no
interference with the installation. Sixth, load the cd that came with the
X-fi Extreme Music Card ( I don't know if this will work on other versions of
X-Fi). Click items you want installed. Watch screen for any prompts from
Vista. IF Vista asks for your permission to find a driver for the device,
click no. You don't want Vista to find the driver for you, and this is the
reason why Internet connection is disabled. After the installation is
complete, reboot. If there is no sound, go to Device Manager, look for Audio
Device and click install driver. Make sure you have the cd in your cd drive.
Browse to AMD64 folder and click on XP, and then enter. Cross your fingers
it'll work. If not reboot. You should have X-Fi working now for 2.1. The
Creative Media Player will also work, along with the Console. 3D works,
Crystallizer works, Equalizer works, Mixer works, Creative Media Player
Organizer works, Converter works. Works with Win DVD 6 Platinum, Windows
Media Player, MEdia Center Edition. If everything is ok, make sure Anti-virus
is ON, internet connection is ON.

What doesn't work: Main volume, other channels than 2.1. I have not tested
this on Games.

Other note: Don't enable driver signing or Vista will reject the XP64
driver. Set your Windows Update to prompt you before installing update, that
way, you can check what updates are being downloaded and installed. If the
signed driver gets downloaded and installed, you're back to square
one.---Simply roll the driver back.
Do not download the driver or apps from Creative website as this can wipe
out everything you just did. Don't download the Updater from Creative. It
will install the latest signed driver which is crap. And if you have other
audio devices in your system like Realtec---disable it through Device manager
before installation.
Hope this works for you.



My system: Asus P5WD2, Intel Pentium D 940, 1GB DDR2 667 Patriot, Hitachi
SATA 300, Vista Ult 64 OEM

"Ludwig" wrote:

C. Not all Windows Vista features will be available for use on all Windows
Vista Capable PCs. All Windows Vista Capable PCs upgraded to Windows Vista
will be able to run the core experiences of Windows Vista, such as
innovations in organizing and finding information, security, and
reliability. Some features-such as the new Windows Aero user
interface-available in certain editions of Windows Vista require advanced or
additional hardware.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...footnotes.mspx

"chris p." wrote in message
news
I tried all mentioned suggestions, but it seems to be useless.
So I have to wait till there are better drivers for these cards available.
It's not a big problem for me because I'm still running XP on my system
and
so I take the chance to learn vista step by step. I only had the hope that
there will be someone else with the same specific problem who could help
me.
By the way: life goes on and one day there will be a solution.
Thank you for your help

Chris P.

"Not a Vista Fan" wrote:

sb support said to install card with old drivers then update to new
drivers.
I know it isnt found by os but original installer software should install
drivers anyway.
if this doesnot work, try "clean uninstall".
the clean way is shown on their web site, but it is a pain. I have sound
for my games but no aux or cd in functionality. sb support says Vista
problem not sb prob.
Good Luck

"Michael Solomon" wrote:

chris p. wrote:
i have the latest drivers from creative website, esp the 64bit ones,
the xfi extreme music card doesn't appear in the device manager,
although it works fine in my xp-pro os. It seems that vista didn't
recognize the card during setup (the same goes for my sat-tv card).
Both driver setups abort with similar error message (no hardware
installed!). I have a new asus-board A8V-X, 2Gb RAM, Geforce 7600GS
and with os xp prof I have no problems with these cards.
I'm not sure what to do further more (I reinstalled the cards from
pci
socket, plugged it in again-hoping vista will find new hardware after
starting-but nothing happens).
Vista without sound makes no fun. Onboard sound I can only use with
headphone. Do you think a reinstall of vista would help things work
out better?

I don't think reinstalling Vista will help. It's not unusual for an OS
not
to recognize some hardware device during install. I have an Audigy 2
Value
card that wasn't seen in XP and isn't seen in Vista until I install the
drivers. The fact the cards you mentioned work with XP Professional is
pretty much irrelevant and I don't mean that to be critical of you. A
lot
of people read these boards and they all need to understand that new
operating systems are more than just window dressing. New features,
architecures and code have a ripple effect throughout the system that
has an
enormous effect on what is backward compatible.

There was a major change to the sound subsystem in Vista and a great
many
soundcards, including newer cards didn't achieve compatiblity, even at
a
minimal or basic level until shortly before Vista was released and it's
going to take some time before the manufacturer's get all the bugs and
knks
worked out. Even cards listed as having Vista compatible drivers as
you are
finding out are still having problems.

I would take this to the Creative forums as I mentioned earlier because
while these drivers are listed as basic drivers, they are supposedly no
longer beta and Creative needs to know there are still some issues with
their drivers.

Again, I want to reiterate, it is not unusual for an OS not to
recognize
some hardware upon OS installation until the drivers for that device
are
installed. Clearly there are still some issues with the drivers for
your
soundcard and if you are having this issue with your graphics card, I'd
assume there same there as well.

--
Michael Solomon








  #13 (permalink)  
Old May 2nd 07, 04:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
art
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 38
Default Xfi Soundcard

Theres got to be someting in the Ultimate that prevents Creative from going
full time in their drivers and apps from installing correctly. Maybe its
because of DRM, or other proprietary technology. When I installed the latest
signed X-Fi driver, the only thing that worked is the player and organizer.
No equalizer, no mixer, no 3D, no Crystallizer, No ripping, converting. Even
used the apps from Creative website with same results. Maybe it has something
to do with the MEdia Center.

"Cal Bear '66" wrote:

I have the same card as you and I have no problem with the latest Creative
64-bit driver on Vista Business x64. A few of the more advanced features are not
yet fully implemented, but the sound quality is excellent.


"Art" wrote in message
...
I just clean-installed Vista Ultimate 64 OEM. I do have an X-Fi Extreme Music
Card and the most updated driver for this card is really terrible. Might as
well not use the X-Fi card at all. But from research I was able to install
the original driver and apps from the cd that came with X-Fi. First, disable
driver signing. Second, remove all drivers for this card along with the
applications like Creative Media player and such. Third, reboot. Fourth,
disable internet connection either by unplugging the cable or disabling the
network adapter. Fifth, disable anti-virus (I'm using Trend Micro), so no
interference with the installation. Sixth, load the cd that came with the
X-fi Extreme Music Card ( I don't know if this will work on other versions of
X-Fi). Click items you want installed. Watch screen for any prompts from
Vista. IF Vista asks for your permission to find a driver for the device,
click no. You don't want Vista to find the driver for you, and this is the
reason why Internet connection is disabled. After the installation is
complete, reboot. If there is no sound, go to Device Manager, look for Audio
Device and click install driver. Make sure you have the cd in your cd drive.
Browse to AMD64 folder and click on XP, and then enter. Cross your fingers
it'll work. If not reboot. You should have X-Fi working now for 2.1. The
Creative Media Player will also work, along with the Console. 3D works,
Crystallizer works, Equalizer works, Mixer works, Creative Media Player
Organizer works, Converter works. Works with Win DVD 6 Platinum, Windows
Media Player, MEdia Center Edition. If everything is ok, make sure Anti-virus
is ON, internet connection is ON.

What doesn't work: Main volume, other channels than 2.1. I have not tested
this on Games.

Other note: Don't enable driver signing or Vista will reject the XP64
driver. Set your Windows Update to prompt you before installing update, that
way, you can check what updates are being downloaded and installed. If the
signed driver gets downloaded and installed, you're back to square
one.---Simply roll the driver back.
Do not download the driver or apps from Creative website as this can wipe
out everything you just did. Don't download the Updater from Creative. It
will install the latest signed driver which is crap. And if you have other
audio devices in your system like Realtec---disable it through Device manager
before installation.
Hope this works for you.



My system: Asus P5WD2, Intel Pentium D 940, 1GB DDR2 667 Patriot, Hitachi
SATA 300, Vista Ult 64 OEM

"Ludwig" wrote:

C. Not all Windows Vista features will be available for use on all Windows
Vista Capable PCs. All Windows Vista Capable PCs upgraded to Windows Vista
will be able to run the core experiences of Windows Vista, such as
innovations in organizing and finding information, security, and
reliability. Some features-such as the new Windows Aero user
interface-available in certain editions of Windows Vista require advanced or
additional hardware.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...footnotes.mspx

"chris p." wrote in message
news I tried all mentioned suggestions, but it seems to be useless.
So I have to wait till there are better drivers for these cards available.
It's not a big problem for me because I'm still running XP on my system
and
so I take the chance to learn vista step by step. I only had the hope that
there will be someone else with the same specific problem who could help
me.
By the way: life goes on and one day there will be a solution.
Thank you for your help

Chris P.

"Not a Vista Fan" wrote:

sb support said to install card with old drivers then update to new
drivers.
I know it isnt found by os but original installer software should install
drivers anyway.
if this doesnot work, try "clean uninstall".
the clean way is shown on their web site, but it is a pain. I have sound
for my games but no aux or cd in functionality. sb support says Vista
problem not sb prob.
Good Luck

"Michael Solomon" wrote:

chris p. wrote:
i have the latest drivers from creative website, esp the 64bit ones,
the xfi extreme music card doesn't appear in the device manager,
although it works fine in my xp-pro os. It seems that vista didn't
recognize the card during setup (the same goes for my sat-tv card).
Both driver setups abort with similar error message (no hardware
installed!). I have a new asus-board A8V-X, 2Gb RAM, Geforce 7600GS
and with os xp prof I have no problems with these cards.
I'm not sure what to do further more (I reinstalled the cards from
pci
socket, plugged it in again-hoping vista will find new hardware after
starting-but nothing happens).
Vista without sound makes no fun. Onboard sound I can only use with
headphone. Do you think a reinstall of vista would help things work
out better?

I don't think reinstalling Vista will help. It's not unusual for an OS
not
to recognize some hardware device during install. I have an Audigy 2
Value
card that wasn't seen in XP and isn't seen in Vista until I install the
drivers. The fact the cards you mentioned work with XP Professional is
pretty much irrelevant and I don't mean that to be critical of you. A
lot
of people read these boards and they all need to understand that new
operating systems are more than just window dressing. New features,
architecures and code have a ripple effect throughout the system that
has an
enormous effect on what is backward compatible.

There was a major change to the sound subsystem in Vista and a great
many
soundcards, including newer cards didn't achieve compatiblity, even at
a
minimal or basic level until shortly before Vista was released and it's
going to take some time before the manufacturer's get all the bugs and
knks
worked out. Even cards listed as having Vista compatible drivers as
you are
finding out are still having problems.

I would take this to the Creative forums as I mentioned earlier because
while these drivers are listed as basic drivers, they are supposedly no
longer beta and Creative needs to know there are still some issues with
their drivers.

Again, I want to reiterate, it is not unusual for an OS not to
recognize
some hardware upon OS installation until the drivers for that device
are
installed. Clearly there are still some issues with the drivers for
your
soundcard and if you are having this issue with your graphics card, I'd
assume there same there as well.

--
Michael Solomon








  #14 (permalink)  
Old May 2nd 07, 05:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Cal Bear '66
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,324
Default Xfi Soundcard

As I understand it, Microsoft radically changed the way Vista handles sound and
this is proving more difficult than anticipated for sound card vendors to
release fully featured drivers.

My needs are very modest and the current drivers suit my needs. Since Vista is
shipping on virtually all new PCs now, I don't think Creative wants to loose the
upgrade market and will soon release fully featured, stable drivers and
applications for Vista.


"Art" wrote in message
news
Theres got to be someting in the Ultimate that prevents Creative from going
full time in their drivers and apps from installing correctly. Maybe its
because of DRM, or other proprietary technology. When I installed the latest
signed X-Fi driver, the only thing that worked is the player and organizer.
No equalizer, no mixer, no 3D, no Crystallizer, No ripping, converting. Even
used the apps from Creative website with same results. Maybe it has something
to do with the MEdia Center.

"Cal Bear '66" wrote:

I have the same card as you and I have no problem with the latest Creative
64-bit driver on Vista Business x64. A few of the more advanced features are
not
yet fully implemented, but the sound quality is excellent.


"Art" wrote in message
...
I just clean-installed Vista Ultimate 64 OEM. I do have an X-Fi Extreme
Music
Card and the most updated driver for this card is really terrible. Might as
well not use the X-Fi card at all. But from research I was able to install
the original driver and apps from the cd that came with X-Fi. First,
disable
driver signing. Second, remove all drivers for this card along with the
applications like Creative Media player and such. Third, reboot. Fourth,
disable internet connection either by unplugging the cable or disabling the
network adapter. Fifth, disable anti-virus (I'm using Trend Micro), so no
interference with the installation. Sixth, load the cd that came with the
X-fi Extreme Music Card ( I don't know if this will work on other versions
of
X-Fi). Click items you want installed. Watch screen for any prompts from
Vista. IF Vista asks for your permission to find a driver for the device,
click no. You don't want Vista to find the driver for you, and this is the
reason why Internet connection is disabled. After the installation is
complete, reboot. If there is no sound, go to Device Manager, look for
Audio
Device and click install driver. Make sure you have the cd in your cd
drive.
Browse to AMD64 folder and click on XP, and then enter. Cross your fingers
it'll work. If not reboot. You should have X-Fi working now for 2.1. The
Creative Media Player will also work, along with the Console. 3D works,
Crystallizer works, Equalizer works, Mixer works, Creative Media Player
Organizer works, Converter works. Works with Win DVD 6 Platinum, Windows
Media Player, MEdia Center Edition. If everything is ok, make sure
Anti-virus
is ON, internet connection is ON.

What doesn't work: Main volume, other channels than 2.1. I have not tested
this on Games.

Other note: Don't enable driver signing or Vista will reject the XP64
driver. Set your Windows Update to prompt you before installing update,
that
way, you can check what updates are being downloaded and installed. If the
signed driver gets downloaded and installed, you're back to square
one.---Simply roll the driver back.
Do not download the driver or apps from Creative website as this can wipe
out everything you just did. Don't download the Updater from Creative. It
will install the latest signed driver which is crap. And if you have other
audio devices in your system like Realtec---disable it through Device
manager
before installation.
Hope this works for you.



My system: Asus P5WD2, Intel Pentium D 940, 1GB DDR2 667 Patriot, Hitachi
SATA 300, Vista Ult 64 OEM

"Ludwig" wrote:

C. Not all Windows Vista features will be available for use on all Windows
Vista Capable PCs. All Windows Vista Capable PCs upgraded to Windows Vista
will be able to run the core experiences of Windows Vista, such as
innovations in organizing and finding information, security, and
reliability. Some features-such as the new Windows Aero user
interface-available in certain editions of Windows Vista require advanced
or
additional hardware.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...footnotes.mspx

"chris p." wrote in message
news I tried all mentioned suggestions, but it seems to be useless.
So I have to wait till there are better drivers for these cards
available.
It's not a big problem for me because I'm still running XP on my system
and
so I take the chance to learn vista step by step. I only had the hope
that
there will be someone else with the same specific problem who could help
me.
By the way: life goes on and one day there will be a solution.
Thank you for your help

Chris P.

"Not a Vista Fan" wrote:

sb support said to install card with old drivers then update to new
drivers.
I know it isnt found by os but original installer software should
install
drivers anyway.
if this doesnot work, try "clean uninstall".
the clean way is shown on their web site, but it is a pain. I have
sound
for my games but no aux or cd in functionality. sb support says Vista
problem not sb prob.
Good Luck

"Michael Solomon" wrote:

chris p. wrote:
i have the latest drivers from creative website, esp the 64bit
ones,
the xfi extreme music card doesn't appear in the device manager,
although it works fine in my xp-pro os. It seems that vista didn't
recognize the card during setup (the same goes for my sat-tv card).
Both driver setups abort with similar error message (no hardware
installed!). I have a new asus-board A8V-X, 2Gb RAM, Geforce 7600GS
and with os xp prof I have no problems with these cards.
I'm not sure what to do further more (I reinstalled the cards from
pci
socket, plugged it in again-hoping vista will find new hardware
after
starting-but nothing happens).
Vista without sound makes no fun. Onboard sound I can only use with
headphone. Do you think a reinstall of vista would help things work
out better?

I don't think reinstalling Vista will help. It's not unusual for an
OS
not
to recognize some hardware device during install. I have an Audigy 2
Value
card that wasn't seen in XP and isn't seen in Vista until I install
the
drivers. The fact the cards you mentioned work with XP Professional
is
pretty much irrelevant and I don't mean that to be critical of you.
A
lot
of people read these boards and they all need to understand that new
operating systems are more than just window dressing. New features,
architecures and code have a ripple effect throughout the system that
has an
enormous effect on what is backward compatible.

There was a major change to the sound subsystem in Vista and a great
many
soundcards, including newer cards didn't achieve compatiblity, even
at
a
minimal or basic level until shortly before Vista was released and
it's
going to take some time before the manufacturer's get all the bugs
and
knks
worked out. Even cards listed as having Vista compatible drivers as
you are
finding out are still having problems.

I would take this to the Creative forums as I mentioned earlier
because
while these drivers are listed as basic drivers, they are supposedly
no
longer beta and Creative needs to know there are still some issues
with
their drivers.

Again, I want to reiterate, it is not unusual for an OS not to
recognize
some hardware upon OS installation until the drivers for that device
are
installed. Clearly there are still some issues with the drivers for
your
soundcard and if you are having this issue with your graphics card,
I'd
assume there same there as well.

--
Michael Solomon










  #15 (permalink)  
Old May 2nd 07, 07:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
art
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 38
Default Xfi Soundcard

I totally agree with you. I've read somewhere that Vista's sound processing
is faster than in any of the previous OSes Microsoft has previously released
and that causes problems with the current sound cards. Give it another year
or so for the vendors to catch up with their driver or software. Hopefully,
no hardware changes are required on the vendor's part to make this happen.
For the meantime, all we can do is wait patiently for the best.

"Cal Bear '66" wrote:

As I understand it, Microsoft radically changed the way Vista handles sound and
this is proving more difficult than anticipated for sound card vendors to
release fully featured drivers.

My needs are very modest and the current drivers suit my needs. Since Vista is
shipping on virtually all new PCs now, I don't think Creative wants to loose the
upgrade market and will soon release fully featured, stable drivers and
applications for Vista.


"Art" wrote in message
news
Theres got to be someting in the Ultimate that prevents Creative from going
full time in their drivers and apps from installing correctly. Maybe its
because of DRM, or other proprietary technology. When I installed the latest
signed X-Fi driver, the only thing that worked is the player and organizer.
No equalizer, no mixer, no 3D, no Crystallizer, No ripping, converting. Even
used the apps from Creative website with same results. Maybe it has something
to do with the MEdia Center.

"Cal Bear '66" wrote:

I have the same card as you and I have no problem with the latest Creative
64-bit driver on Vista Business x64. A few of the more advanced features are
not
yet fully implemented, but the sound quality is excellent.


"Art" wrote in message
...
I just clean-installed Vista Ultimate 64 OEM. I do have an X-Fi Extreme
Music
Card and the most updated driver for this card is really terrible. Might as
well not use the X-Fi card at all. But from research I was able to install
the original driver and apps from the cd that came with X-Fi. First,
disable
driver signing. Second, remove all drivers for this card along with the
applications like Creative Media player and such. Third, reboot. Fourth,
disable internet connection either by unplugging the cable or disabling the
network adapter. Fifth, disable anti-virus (I'm using Trend Micro), so no
interference with the installation. Sixth, load the cd that came with the
X-fi Extreme Music Card ( I don't know if this will work on other versions
of
X-Fi). Click items you want installed. Watch screen for any prompts from
Vista. IF Vista asks for your permission to find a driver for the device,
click no. You don't want Vista to find the driver for you, and this is the
reason why Internet connection is disabled. After the installation is
complete, reboot. If there is no sound, go to Device Manager, look for
Audio
Device and click install driver. Make sure you have the cd in your cd
drive.
Browse to AMD64 folder and click on XP, and then enter. Cross your fingers
it'll work. If not reboot. You should have X-Fi working now for 2.1. The
Creative Media Player will also work, along with the Console. 3D works,
Crystallizer works, Equalizer works, Mixer works, Creative Media Player
Organizer works, Converter works. Works with Win DVD 6 Platinum, Windows
Media Player, MEdia Center Edition. If everything is ok, make sure
Anti-virus
is ON, internet connection is ON.

What doesn't work: Main volume, other channels than 2.1. I have not tested
this on Games.

Other note: Don't enable driver signing or Vista will reject the XP64
driver. Set your Windows Update to prompt you before installing update,
that
way, you can check what updates are being downloaded and installed. If the
signed driver gets downloaded and installed, you're back to square
one.---Simply roll the driver back.
Do not download the driver or apps from Creative website as this can wipe
out everything you just did. Don't download the Updater from Creative. It
will install the latest signed driver which is crap. And if you have other
audio devices in your system like Realtec---disable it through Device
manager
before installation.
Hope this works for you.



My system: Asus P5WD2, Intel Pentium D 940, 1GB DDR2 667 Patriot, Hitachi
SATA 300, Vista Ult 64 OEM

"Ludwig" wrote:

C. Not all Windows Vista features will be available for use on all Windows
Vista Capable PCs. All Windows Vista Capable PCs upgraded to Windows Vista
will be able to run the core experiences of Windows Vista, such as
innovations in organizing and finding information, security, and
reliability. Some features-such as the new Windows Aero user
interface-available in certain editions of Windows Vista require advanced
or
additional hardware.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...footnotes.mspx

"chris p." wrote in message
news I tried all mentioned suggestions, but it seems to be useless.
So I have to wait till there are better drivers for these cards
available.
It's not a big problem for me because I'm still running XP on my system
and
so I take the chance to learn vista step by step. I only had the hope
that
there will be someone else with the same specific problem who could help
me.
By the way: life goes on and one day there will be a solution.
Thank you for your help

Chris P.

"Not a Vista Fan" wrote:

sb support said to install card with old drivers then update to new
drivers.
I know it isnt found by os but original installer software should
install
drivers anyway.
if this doesnot work, try "clean uninstall".
the clean way is shown on their web site, but it is a pain. I have
sound
for my games but no aux or cd in functionality. sb support says Vista
problem not sb prob.
Good Luck

"Michael Solomon" wrote:

chris p. wrote:
i have the latest drivers from creative website, esp the 64bit
ones,
the xfi extreme music card doesn't appear in the device manager,
although it works fine in my xp-pro os. It seems that vista didn't
recognize the card during setup (the same goes for my sat-tv card).
Both driver setups abort with similar error message (no hardware
installed!). I have a new asus-board A8V-X, 2Gb RAM, Geforce 7600GS
and with os xp prof I have no problems with these cards.
I'm not sure what to do further more (I reinstalled the cards from
pci
socket, plugged it in again-hoping vista will find new hardware
after
starting-but nothing happens).
Vista without sound makes no fun. Onboard sound I can only use with
headphone. Do you think a reinstall of vista would help things work
out better?

I don't think reinstalling Vista will help. It's not unusual for an
OS
not
to recognize some hardware device during install. I have an Audigy 2
Value
card that wasn't seen in XP and isn't seen in Vista until I install
the
drivers. The fact the cards you mentioned work with XP Professional
is
pretty much irrelevant and I don't mean that to be critical of you.
A
lot
of people read these boards and they all need to understand that new
operating systems are more than just window dressing. New features,
architecures and code have a ripple effect throughout the system that
has an
enormous effect on what is backward compatible.

There was a major change to the sound subsystem in Vista and a great
many
soundcards, including newer cards didn't achieve compatiblity, even
at
a
minimal or basic level until shortly before Vista was released and
it's
going to take some time before the manufacturer's get all the bugs
and
knks
worked out. Even cards listed as having Vista compatible drivers as
you are
finding out are still having problems.

I would take this to the Creative forums as I mentioned earlier
because
while these drivers are listed as basic drivers, they are supposedly
no
longer beta and Creative needs to know there are still some issues
with
their drivers.

Again, I want to reiterate, it is not unusual for an OS not to
recognize
some hardware upon OS installation until the drivers for that device
are
installed. Clearly there are still some issues with the drivers for
your
soundcard and if you are having this issue with your graphics card,
I'd
assume there same there as well.

--
Michael Solomon










 




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