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Old March 27th 07, 02:24 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Twig
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Default Vista XP no joy

*banging head on desk*

We never find networking easy.

I'm running Vista Home Premium.
The husband is running XP.

We have a network hub. I'm hooked into it. The cable modem is hooked into
it. The husband's computer is hooked into it. All via network connections.

He and I both can access the internet so that indicates that the hardware is
working.

At one point our computers could see each other on the network. They no
longer can. I had computer issues and ended up reinstalling Vista. I don't
know if it stopped working before that or not. His computer has not changed
at all since then so I believe the problem is on my end.

Both computers are on the workgroup named 1234 (original, eh?) and it's a
private network

I have all the following "on"
Network Discovery
File sharing
Public folder sharing
Printer sharing
Password protected sharing
Media sharing

I have several directories on my box that are "shared" as does my husband.

I "connect" to the workgroup and can see only my computer.
The husband "connects" to the workgroup and can see only his computer.
Both can see the internet.

For troubleshooting purposes I have:

Turned off McAfee Firewall and turned on Windows Firewall.

Turned off both firewalls.

I have tried to connect by typing \\jodyjvr (the name of his computer) in
the "search" bar when you open the start menu. If I press enter after
typing it nothing happens eventually I get a Network Error that says Windows
cannot acess \\jodyjvr. I click Diagnose in that window and I get a
Windows Network Diagnostics window that says that says that network
diagnostics pinged the remote host but did not receive a response.
Resetting the network adapter didn't make any difference.

I have made an account for him on my computer that has the same user name
and password as he uses to access his computer.

I have deleted the account for him.

I don't know what else to do.

I have doublechecked his settings to ensure he didn't change them without
telling me. He hasn't.

What else should I check?

Thanks.
--
Lesley

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Old March 27th 07, 07:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
JerryM \(ID\)
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Default Vista XP no joy

Are both computers using the same protocol?

"Twig" wrote in message
...
*banging head on desk*

We never find networking easy.

I'm running Vista Home Premium.
The husband is running XP.

We have a network hub. I'm hooked into it. The cable modem is hooked
into it. The husband's computer is hooked into it. All via network
connections.

He and I both can access the internet so that indicates that the hardware
is working.

At one point our computers could see each other on the network. They no
longer can. I had computer issues and ended up reinstalling Vista. I
don't know if it stopped working before that or not. His computer has not
changed at all since then so I believe the problem is on my end.

Both computers are on the workgroup named 1234 (original, eh?) and it's a
private network

I have all the following "on"
Network Discovery
File sharing
Public folder sharing
Printer sharing
Password protected sharing
Media sharing

I have several directories on my box that are "shared" as does my husband.

I "connect" to the workgroup and can see only my computer.
The husband "connects" to the workgroup and can see only his computer.
Both can see the internet.

For troubleshooting purposes I have:

Turned off McAfee Firewall and turned on Windows Firewall.

Turned off both firewalls.

I have tried to connect by typing \\jodyjvr (the name of his computer) in
the "search" bar when you open the start menu. If I press enter after
typing it nothing happens eventually I get a Network Error that says
Windows cannot acess \\jodyjvr. I click Diagnose in that window and I
get a Windows Network Diagnostics window that says that says that network
diagnostics pinged the remote host but did not receive a response.
Resetting the network adapter didn't make any difference.

I have made an account for him on my computer that has the same user name
and password as he uses to access his computer.

I have deleted the account for him.

I don't know what else to do.

I have doublechecked his settings to ensure he didn't change them without
telling me. He hasn't.

What else should I check?

Thanks.
--
Lesley


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Old March 27th 07, 07:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Papa
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Default Vista XP no joy

I know advanced college students who must rely on their university IT
department to enable and keep running their internet and intranet
connections. Those in private businesses do the same, i.e., rely on experts
in their IT department. People who have home networks are really behind the
eightball for networking because networking is extraordinarily (and in my
opinion unnecessarily) complex. I have managed to establish and maintain my
home network, but I have a degree in computer science and years of
experience.

Someday networking will be "User Friendly", but that day is not here yet.


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Old March 27th 07, 09:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Keith D
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Default REPLY:- Vista XP no joy



I have all the following "on"
Network Discovery
File sharing
Public folder sharing
Printer sharing
Password protected sharing
Media sharing


I Think most have turned off!!!! password protection


For troubleshooting purposes I have:

Turned off McAfee Firewall and turned on Windows Firewall.

Turned off both firewalls.


not sure about McAFee but third party firewalls
have proved to be a pain in the A

i have similar setup mine was cured by MS tech help line
first i had to do was totally delete programme with third party firewall

apparently !!!!????? turning them off does not help
they still run inbackground

also you may wish to check your router
some dont like Vista

this may ??? help your cause as its got 30 day free trial
you cant really loose out

http://www.networkmagic.com/download/

you will need to install and run in both computers

cheers for now

Keith D.







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Old March 27th 07, 09:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Twig
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Default Vista XP no joy

As in setting the computers both to use Microsoft Windows Network in the
network properties? If so, I don't know. I know that's what he's using and
I could tell you if I were using that if I had Win2k on my computer, but I
can't find any of that junk in Vista. Everytime I find it, I lose it.
(Don't get me started on nothing being all together! *laugh*)

"JerryM (ID)" wrote in message
...
Are both computers using the same protocol?

"Twig" wrote in message
...
*banging head on desk*

We never find networking easy.

I'm running Vista Home Premium.
The husband is running XP.

We have a network hub. I'm hooked into it. The cable modem is hooked
into it. The husband's computer is hooked into it. All via network
connections.

He and I both can access the internet so that indicates that the hardware
is working.

At one point our computers could see each other on the network. They no
longer can. I had computer issues and ended up reinstalling Vista. I
don't know if it stopped working before that or not. His computer has
not changed at all since then so I believe the problem is on my end.

Both computers are on the workgroup named 1234 (original, eh?) and it's
a private network

I have all the following "on"
Network Discovery
File sharing
Public folder sharing
Printer sharing
Password protected sharing
Media sharing

I have several directories on my box that are "shared" as does my
husband.

I "connect" to the workgroup and can see only my computer.
The husband "connects" to the workgroup and can see only his computer.
Both can see the internet.

For troubleshooting purposes I have:

Turned off McAfee Firewall and turned on Windows Firewall.

Turned off both firewalls.

I have tried to connect by typing \\jodyjvr (the name of his computer) in
the "search" bar when you open the start menu. If I press enter after
typing it nothing happens eventually I get a Network Error that says
Windows cannot acess \\jodyjvr. I click Diagnose in that window and I
get a Windows Network Diagnostics window that says that says that network
diagnostics pinged the remote host but did not receive a response.
Resetting the network adapter didn't make any difference.

I have made an account for him on my computer that has the same user name
and password as he uses to access his computer.

I have deleted the account for him.

I don't know what else to do.

I have doublechecked his settings to ensure he didn't change them without
telling me. He hasn't.

What else should I check?

Thanks.
--
Lesley



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Old March 27th 07, 09:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Twig
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Default Vista XP no joy

Found it! I have Client for Microsoft Networks and File and Printer Sharing
for Microsoft Networks checked as well at QoS Packet Scheduler, Internet
Protocol Version 6 and 4, and then LLTD stuff.

I didn't see anything about TCP/IPv4 or TCP/IPv6 on the XP machine but
that's as foreign to me as Vista.

Thanks

"JerryM (ID)" wrote in message
...
Are both computers using the same protocol?

"Twig" wrote in message
...
*banging head on desk*

We never find networking easy.

I'm running Vista Home Premium.
The husband is running XP.

We have a network hub. I'm hooked into it. The cable modem is hooked
into it. The husband's computer is hooked into it. All via network
connections.

He and I both can access the internet so that indicates that the hardware
is working.

At one point our computers could see each other on the network. They no
longer can. I had computer issues and ended up reinstalling Vista. I
don't know if it stopped working before that or not. His computer has
not changed at all since then so I believe the problem is on my end.

Both computers are on the workgroup named 1234 (original, eh?) and it's
a private network

I have all the following "on"
Network Discovery
File sharing
Public folder sharing
Printer sharing
Password protected sharing
Media sharing

I have several directories on my box that are "shared" as does my
husband.

I "connect" to the workgroup and can see only my computer.
The husband "connects" to the workgroup and can see only his computer.
Both can see the internet.

For troubleshooting purposes I have:

Turned off McAfee Firewall and turned on Windows Firewall.

Turned off both firewalls.

I have tried to connect by typing \\jodyjvr (the name of his computer) in
the "search" bar when you open the start menu. If I press enter after
typing it nothing happens eventually I get a Network Error that says
Windows cannot acess \\jodyjvr. I click Diagnose in that window and I
get a Windows Network Diagnostics window that says that says that network
diagnostics pinged the remote host but did not receive a response.
Resetting the network adapter didn't make any difference.

I have made an account for him on my computer that has the same user name
and password as he uses to access his computer.

I have deleted the account for him.

I don't know what else to do.

I have doublechecked his settings to ensure he didn't change them without
telling me. He hasn't.

What else should I check?

Thanks.
--
Lesley



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Old March 28th 07, 12:53 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Trick
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Default Vista XP no joy

Lesley -

.....What else should I check?

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx

That reference should help a lot; I found it by running thru the threads
around here. You are having a very common issue in these threads; Vista is
not home network plug&play out of the box. Your story is very similar to my
experience except I never touched the settings in McAfee (on a Gateway w/V.
Ult.) I finally got the network working just by fiddling with XPs and Vista
network settings. Now networking is sweet.

Except the one thing remaining that is probably fixable & I don't know how
yet is that I have to turn on XPs first; once they recognize each other, I
turn on the Vista and it joins in right away & file sharing works. If I turn
the Vista on first, no computer can ever file share w/the others. Sort of
like the king won't let the lower peasants into court once he's there.

T


"Twig" wrote:

*banging head on desk*

We never find networking easy.

I'm running Vista Home Premium.
The husband is running XP........

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Old March 28th 07, 03:10 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Twig
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Default Vista XP no joy

Thanks for the link. I've printed it out and I'll go down the list.
Networks don't seem to like me. We had issues getting it to work when I was
running Win2K. I don't know how I got it to work then but when I did, it
stayed working. Now that I'm on Vista, I have to start all over again.
*sigh*


"Trick" wrote in message
...
Lesley -

.....What else should I check?

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx

That reference should help a lot; I found it by running thru the threads
around here. You are having a very common issue in these threads; Vista
is
not home network plug&play out of the box. Your story is very similar to
my
experience except I never touched the settings in McAfee (on a Gateway
w/V.
Ult.) I finally got the network working just by fiddling with XPs and
Vista
network settings. Now networking is sweet.


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Old March 28th 07, 03:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Twig
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Default REPLY:- Vista XP no joy

Thanks. I'll take a look at Network Magic. I *will* beat this if it's the
last thing I do.

"Keith D" wrote in message
...


I have all the following "on"
Network Discovery
File sharing
Public folder sharing
Printer sharing
Password protected sharing
Media sharing


I Think most have turned off!!!! password protection


For troubleshooting purposes I have:

Turned off McAfee Firewall and turned on Windows Firewall.

Turned off both firewalls.


not sure about McAFee but third party firewalls have proved to be a pain
in the A

i have similar setup mine was cured by MS tech help line
first i had to do was totally delete programme with third party firewall

apparently !!!!????? turning them off does not help
they still run inbackground

also you may wish to check your router
some dont like Vista

this may ??? help your cause as its got 30 day free trial you cant really
loose out

http://www.networkmagic.com/download/

you will need to install and run in both computers

cheers for now

Keith D.








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Old March 29th 07, 01:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Kirk
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Default REPLY:- Vista XP no joy

I've been using Network Magic for quite some time now, even prior to going
to Ultimate RC1 and RC2 when both my home machines were XPSP2. Now that I'm
full Ultimate and my wife is XPSP2 I find it almost indispensible. It has
helped me resolve some networking problems associated with Vista and XP.
She's wireless and I'm connected directly. Nice and easy setup and
maintenance.

"Keith D" wrote in message
...


I have all the following "on"
Network Discovery
File sharing
Public folder sharing
Printer sharing
Password protected sharing
Media sharing


I Think most have turned off!!!! password protection


For troubleshooting purposes I have:

Turned off McAfee Firewall and turned on Windows Firewall.

Turned off both firewalls.


not sure about McAFee but third party firewalls have proved to be a pain
in the A

i have similar setup mine was cured by MS tech help line
first i had to do was totally delete programme with third party firewall

apparently !!!!????? turning them off does not help
they still run inbackground

also you may wish to check your router
some dont like Vista

this may ??? help your cause as its got 30 day free trial you cant really
loose out

http://www.networkmagic.com/download/

you will need to install and run in both computers

cheers for now

Keith D.








 




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