Hi,

I was just forced to buy a machine with Vista on it. There were many
reasons I wanted to stick with XP, and here is one of them.

I cannot get the Vista machine to network. (Wireless.)

It wants me to put in credentials, and I know it's looking for a certificate
to gain access to the wireless network.

But our wireless network doesn't use certificates. We use a WEP only, which
I have and can enter. I know how to fix this in XP, but Vista has my head
spinning.

Can anyone tell me how to tell Vista that it doesn't need a certificate, a
logon name, or a password to get on? I just want to enter my WEP as always
and get to work.

Thanks all.
--
I know just enough to be dangerous!

While Vista does certainly support certificate-based access, WEP is still
fully supported. When you connect to a network that is encrypted using WEP,
Vista should display a window asking you to "Type the network security key
or passphrase for (your network)". At this point, you type in your WEP key.

"Yarrielle" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I was just forced to buy a machine with Vista on it. There were many
reasons I wanted to stick with XP, and here is one of them.

I cannot get the Vista machine to network. (Wireless.)

It wants me to put in credentials, and I know it's looking for a
certificate
to gain access to the wireless network.

But our wireless network doesn't use certificates. We use a WEP only,
which
I have and can enter. I know how to fix this in XP, but Vista has my head
spinning.

Can anyone tell me how to tell Vista that it doesn't need a certificate, a
logon name, or a password to get on? I just want to enter my WEP as
always
and get to work.

Thanks all.
--
I know just enough to be dangerous!

I have just a bit more detail on this now. No, it still isn't working. It
did ask me for the WEP, and I put it in...correctly. But when I try to
connect to the network, I get a window asking me for more credentials. If I
try to get past that, I get a window telling me that my certificate is
invalid. What certificate? My router isn't set up for certificates. None
of our machines have certificates.

This used to happen with a couple of newer PCs with XP on them. In those
cases, I could just go deep into Advanced Properties and uncheck 'Use Smart
Card or Certificate.' Apparantly someone decided to take that out of Vista.

Any suggestions I can try?
--
I know just enough to be dangerous!

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"Michael A. Bishop (MSFT" wrote:

While Vista does certainly support certificate-based access, WEP is still
fully supported. When you connect to a network that is encrypted using WEP,
Vista should display a window asking you to "Type the network security key
or passphrase for (your network)". At this point, you type in your WEP key.

"Yarrielle" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I was just forced to buy a machine with Vista on it. There were many
reasons I wanted to stick with XP, and here is one of them.

I cannot get the Vista machine to network. (Wireless.)

It wants me to put in credentials, and I know it's looking for a
certificate
to gain access to the wireless network.

But our wireless network doesn't use certificates. We use a WEP only,
which
I have and can enter. I know how to fix this in XP, but Vista has my head
spinning.

Can anyone tell me how to tell Vista that it doesn't need a certificate, a
logon name, or a password to get on? I just want to enter my WEP as
always
and get to work.

Thanks all.
--
I know just enough to be dangerous!

It sounds like your system is attempting to authenticate using 802.1x --
that protocol lets you authenticate with either a certificate or a
username/password to generate the WEP key. When you connect to a network,
Windows attempts to detect the type of encryption present and prompt you
appropriately -- this affected you on XP and now on Vista. This is not a
case of "someone decided to take that out" -- it's a case of it being in a
slightly different place. Personally, I'm curious why your network is being
detected as 802.1x if that's not the authentication method it uses....

Open the Network & Sharing Center, choose "Manage Wireless Networks" and
double-click the profile for the network you're trying to join, if it
exists. Change "Security Type" to "No Authentication" and make sure
Encryption is set to WEP.

If it doesn't exist, click Add, Manually create a wireless profile, and
choose WEP for security type. Complete the rest of the dialog and try
connecting.

"Yarrielle" wrote in message
...
I have just a bit more detail on this now. No, it still isn't working. It
did ask me for the WEP, and I put it in...correctly. But when I try to
connect to the network, I get a window asking me for more credentials. If
I
try to get past that, I get a window telling me that my certificate is
invalid. What certificate? My router isn't set up for certificates.
None
of our machines have certificates.

This used to happen with a couple of newer PCs with XP on them. In those
cases, I could just go deep into Advanced Properties and uncheck 'Use
Smart
Card or Certificate.' Apparantly someone decided to take that out of
Vista.

Any suggestions I can try?
--
I know just enough to be dangerous!

Custom Button Badges and Accessories! http://www.manakenterprises.com/bb


"Michael A. Bishop (MSFT" wrote:

While Vista does certainly support certificate-based access, WEP is still
fully supported. When you connect to a network that is encrypted using
WEP,
Vista should display a window asking you to "Type the network security
key
or passphrase for (your network)". At this point, you type in your WEP
key.

"Yarrielle" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I was just forced to buy a machine with Vista on it. There were many
reasons I wanted to stick with XP, and here is one of them.

I cannot get the Vista machine to network. (Wireless.)

It wants me to put in credentials, and I know it's looking for a
certificate
to gain access to the wireless network.

But our wireless network doesn't use certificates. We use a WEP only,
which
I have and can enter. I know how to fix this in XP, but Vista has my
head
spinning.

Can anyone tell me how to tell Vista that it doesn't need a
certificate, a
logon name, or a password to get on? I just want to enter my WEP as
always
and get to work.

Thanks all.
--
I know just enough to be dangerous!

Thank you for replying. I just now found this in my email; I had missed it
the first time. I believe I have already tried both of your suggestions, but
I will try them again and post back if they work. It will be several days
before I can get it off the road and back here to look at it again.

Yarrielle
--
I know just enough to be dangerous!




"Michael A. Bishop (MSFT" wrote:

It sounds like your system is attempting to authenticate using 802.1x --
that protocol lets you authenticate with either a certificate or a
username/password to generate the WEP key. When you connect to a network,
Windows attempts to detect the type of encryption present and prompt you
appropriately -- this affected you on XP and now on Vista. This is not a
case of "someone decided to take that out" -- it's a case of it being in a
slightly different place. Personally, I'm curious why your network is being
detected as 802.1x if that's not the authentication method it uses....

Open the Network & Sharing Center, choose "Manage Wireless Networks" and
double-click the profile for the network you're trying to join, if it
exists. Change "Security Type" to "No Authentication" and make sure
Encryption is set to WEP.

If it doesn't exist, click Add, Manually create a wireless profile, and
choose WEP for security type. Complete the rest of the dialog and try
connecting.

"Yarrielle" wrote in message
...
I have just a bit more detail on this now. No, it still isn't working. It
did ask me for the WEP, and I put it in...correctly. But when I try to
connect to the network, I get a window asking me for more credentials. If
I
try to get past that, I get a window telling me that my certificate is
invalid. What certificate? My router isn't set up for certificates.
None
of our machines have certificates.

This used to happen with a couple of newer PCs with XP on them. In those
cases, I could just go deep into Advanced Properties and uncheck 'Use
Smart
Card or Certificate.' Apparantly someone decided to take that out of
Vista.

Any suggestions I can try?
--
I know just enough to be dangerous!

Custom Button Badges and Accessories! http://www.manakenterprises.com/bb


"Michael A. Bishop (MSFT" wrote:

While Vista does certainly support certificate-based access, WEP is still
fully supported. When you connect to a network that is encrypted using
WEP,
Vista should display a window asking you to "Type the network security
key
or passphrase for (your network)". At this point, you type in your WEP
key.

"Yarrielle" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I was just forced to buy a machine with Vista on it. There were many
reasons I wanted to stick with XP, and here is one of them.

I cannot get the Vista machine to network. (Wireless.)

It wants me to put in credentials, and I know it's looking for a
certificate
to gain access to the wireless network.

But our wireless network doesn't use certificates. We use a WEP only,
which
I have and can enter. I know how to fix this in XP, but Vista has my
head
spinning.

Can anyone tell me how to tell Vista that it doesn't need a
certificate, a
logon name, or a password to get on? I just want to enter my WEP as
always
and get to work.

Thanks all.
--
I know just enough to be dangerous!

Okay, I got it back in today. First I followed your set of instructions to
check the current security settings. They were already set as you specified.


Next I deleted that connection out of 'Manage Wireless Networks" and added
it again. Once again I set it to 'No Authentication (Open)' and put in our
WEP. It doesn't take the passphrase but instead the actual WEP, so I put
that in.

When I try to connect, I still get the screen that says 'Additional log on
information is required to connect to this network.' I get these options:

Enter/select additional log on information
Connect to a different network

***

I guess I'm still in the same boat. But I have a Windows XP machine using a
wireless card with the same security settings and it is accessing the
connection just fine. I wonder what we're missing?


--

Yarrielle
I know just enough to be dangerous!