I keep getting the message from my Vista Business workstation that is
connected to Server 2003 Enterprise Domain. "The trust relationship between
workstation and primary domain failed" Then I cannot log onto the domain.

I reset everything on the server, sometimes it works sometimes it does'nt.
The XP workstations attached to the domain do not have this problem. So the
problem must be in Vista , but where....?

Try to remove and re-join the computer. This search result may help,

logon domain issues“Trust Relationship has failed between the PDC and the workstation� “The trust relationship between this workstation and the primary domain failed� ...
http://www.chicagotech.net/logondomain.htm


Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Ernmander" wrote in message ...
I keep getting the message from my Vista Business workstation that is
connected to Server 2003 Enterprise Domain. "The trust relationship between
workstation and primary domain failed" Then I cannot log onto the domain.

I reset everything on the server, sometimes it works sometimes it does'nt.
The XP workstations attached to the domain do not have this problem. So the
problem must be in Vista , but where....?

Not sure what "reset everything on the server" means, but if, in Active
Directory Users and Computers you:
right click the Vista Computer's account
select Reset Account

you have broken the trust relationship with the Vista Computer and it will
have to be joined to the domain again.

1. Logon to the Vista computer using the local, administrative user account
that was created when Vista was installed
2. click Start, right click Computer, select Properties
3. click Advanced system settings in the left (Tasks) pane; click Continue
4. select the Computer Name tab; click Change...
5. select the Workgroup radio button; key any character string (e.g.
workgroup); click OK
6. key something (anything) in the user name and password boxes - you have
to key something, but it doesn't matter what; click OK
7. you should get the Welcome to the ... workgroup. message box; click OK
8. restart the computer
9. on the domain controller, reset the computer account
10. logon to the Vista computer using the local administrative user account
(same as step 1)
11. join the computer to the domain again (same idea as steps 2 through 6,
except select the Domain radio button and supply appropriate domain
credentials when prompted

If there is still a problem, then I suggest do steps 1 through 8, then
delete the computer account from the domain, create a new computer account
with the same name, then join the computer to the domain again (steps 10 and
11).

--
Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders

It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.



"Ernmander" wrote in message
...
I keep getting the message from my Vista Business workstation that is
connected to Server 2003 Enterprise Domain. "The trust relationship
between
workstation and primary domain failed" Then I cannot log onto the domain.

I reset everything on the server, sometimes it works sometimes it does'nt.
The XP workstations attached to the domain do not have this problem. So
the
problem must be in Vista , but where....?

Hi Bruce

The steps listed below are exactly what I have been doing. Its strange that
the XP workstations attached to the same domain do not have the problem.

The only permanent fix I have made work is to log onto the workstation as
Administrator but that defeats the object.

"Bruce Sanderson" wrote:

Not sure what "reset everything on the server" means, but if, in Active
Directory Users and Computers you:
right click the Vista Computer's account
select Reset Account

you have broken the trust relationship with the Vista Computer and it will
have to be joined to the domain again.

1. Logon to the Vista computer using the local, administrative user account
that was created when Vista was installed
2. click Start, right click Computer, select Properties
3. click Advanced system settings in the left (Tasks) pane; click Continue
4. select the Computer Name tab; click Change...
5. select the Workgroup radio button; key any character string (e.g.
workgroup); click OK
6. key something (anything) in the user name and password boxes - you have
to key something, but it doesn't matter what; click OK
7. you should get the Welcome to the ... workgroup. message box; click OK
8. restart the computer
9. on the domain controller, reset the computer account
10. logon to the Vista computer using the local administrative user account
(same as step 1)
11. join the computer to the domain again (same idea as steps 2 through 6,
except select the Domain radio button and supply appropriate domain
credentials when prompted

If there is still a problem, then I suggest do steps 1 through 8, then
delete the computer account from the domain, create a new computer account
with the same name, then join the computer to the domain again (steps 10 and
11).

--
Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders

It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.



"Ernmander" wrote in message
...
I keep getting the message from my Vista Business workstation that is
connected to Server 2003 Enterprise Domain. "The trust relationship
between
workstation and primary domain failed" Then I cannot log onto the domain.

I reset everything on the server, sometimes it works sometimes it does'nt.
The XP workstations attached to the domain do not have this problem. So
the
problem must be in Vista , but where....?

That does not work permanently and seems to fail after a while. The only
permanent fix I have is to log onto the workstation as Administrator but that
defeats the object.

The XP workstations do not have this problem and are on the same domain.

"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

Try to remove and re-join the computer. This search result may help,

logon domain issues“Trust Relationship has failed between the PDC and the workstation� “The trust relationship between this workstation and the primary domain failed� ...
http://www.chicagotech.net/logondomain.htm


Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Ernmander" wrote in message ...
I keep getting the message from my Vista Business workstation that is
connected to Server 2003 Enterprise Domain. "The trust relationship between
workstation and primary domain failed" Then I cannot log onto the domain.

I reset everything on the server, sometimes it works sometimes it does'nt.
The XP workstations attached to the domain do not have this problem. So the
problem must be in Vista , but where...

Hmm mysterious. I've several Vista Business, Enterprise and Ultimate
computers in two domains - one Windows 2000, the other Windows 2003 R2 and
have not experienced this problem.

Have you been doing anything unusual on the Vista client, like restoring to
saved restore point or from other backup?

Do you have this problem with other Vista client computers?

You might try the Microsoft Memory Tester program to make sure the Vista
client doesn't have faulty memory and run chkdsk against the hard drive.

--
Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders

It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.



"Ernmander" wrote in message
...
Hi Bruce

The steps listed below are exactly what I have been doing. Its strange
that
the XP workstations attached to the same domain do not have the problem.

The only permanent fix I have made work is to log onto the workstation as
Administrator but that defeats the object.

"Bruce Sanderson" wrote:

Not sure what "reset everything on the server" means, but if, in Active
Directory Users and Computers you:
right click the Vista Computer's account
select Reset Account

you have broken the trust relationship with the Vista Computer and it
will
have to be joined to the domain again.

1. Logon to the Vista computer using the local, administrative user
account
that was created when Vista was installed
2. click Start, right click Computer, select Properties
3. click Advanced system settings in the left (Tasks) pane; click
Continue
4. select the Computer Name tab; click Change...
5. select the Workgroup radio button; key any character string (e.g.
workgroup); click OK
6. key something (anything) in the user name and password boxes - you
have
to key something, but it doesn't matter what; click OK
7. you should get the Welcome to the ... workgroup. message box; click OK
8. restart the computer
9. on the domain controller, reset the computer account
10. logon to the Vista computer using the local administrative user
account
(same as step 1)
11. join the computer to the domain again (same idea as steps 2 through
6,
except select the Domain radio button and supply appropriate domain
credentials when prompted

If there is still a problem, then I suggest do steps 1 through 8, then
delete the computer account from the domain, create a new computer
account
with the same name, then join the computer to the domain again (steps 10
and
11).

--
Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders

It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.



"Ernmander" wrote in message
...
I keep getting the message from my Vista Business workstation that is
connected to Server 2003 Enterprise Domain. "The trust relationship
between
workstation and primary domain failed" Then I cannot log onto the
domain.

I reset everything on the server, sometimes it works sometimes it
does'nt.
The XP workstations attached to the domain do not have this problem. So
the
problem must be in Vista , but where....?

Hello Bruce and Ernmander ,
I've had the same problem (trust relationship) and i've solved it. Now i've
got
a network speed problem. When i try to open a public folder in the 2k3
server, takes
about 30-60 seconds to open a folder. With XP (even home edition) takes less
than
2 seconds. Can you help me please ?

"Bruce Sanderson" wrote:

Hmm mysterious. I've several Vista Business, Enterprise and Ultimate
computers in two domains - one Windows 2000, the other Windows 2003 R2 and
have not experienced this problem.

Have you been doing anything unusual on the Vista client, like restoring to
saved restore point or from other backup?

Do you have this problem with other Vista client computers?

You might try the Microsoft Memory Tester program to make sure the Vista
client doesn't have faulty memory and run chkdsk against the hard drive.

--
Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders

It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.



"Ernmander" wrote in message
...
Hi Bruce

The steps listed below are exactly what I have been doing. Its strange
that
the XP workstations attached to the same domain do not have the problem.

The only permanent fix I have made work is to log onto the workstation as
Administrator but that defeats the object.

"Bruce Sanderson" wrote:

Not sure what "reset everything on the server" means, but if, in Active
Directory Users and Computers you:
right click the Vista Computer's account
select Reset Account

you have broken the trust relationship with the Vista Computer and it
will
have to be joined to the domain again.

1. Logon to the Vista computer using the local, administrative user
account
that was created when Vista was installed
2. click Start, right click Computer, select Properties
3. click Advanced system settings in the left (Tasks) pane; click
Continue
4. select the Computer Name tab; click Change...
5. select the Workgroup radio button; key any character string (e.g.
workgroup); click OK
6. key something (anything) in the user name and password boxes - you
have
to key something, but it doesn't matter what; click OK
7. you should get the Welcome to the ... workgroup. message box; click OK
8. restart the computer
9. on the domain controller, reset the computer account
10. logon to the Vista computer using the local administrative user
account
(same as step 1)
11. join the computer to the domain again (same idea as steps 2 through
6,
except select the Domain radio button and supply appropriate domain
credentials when prompted

If there is still a problem, then I suggest do steps 1 through 8, then
delete the computer account from the domain, create a new computer
account
with the same name, then join the computer to the domain again (steps 10
and
11).

--
Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders

It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.



"Ernmander" wrote in message
...
I keep getting the message from my Vista Business workstation that is
connected to Server 2003 Enterprise Domain. "The trust relationship
between
workstation and primary domain failed" Then I cannot log onto the
domain.

I reset everything on the server, sometimes it works sometimes it
does'nt.
The XP workstations attached to the domain do not have this problem. So
the
problem must be in Vista , but where....?

I wish you posted the details how you fixed trust relationship so that we would benefit from your experience.

regarding the slow issue, it could be the name resolution issue. Or this search result may help,

Vista Slow IssuesVista and XP Networking Unable to copy files ... Both the vista machine and the xp machine can see each other, ... Vista: very slow to copy large files . ...
http://www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistaslow.htm


Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Pedro (Hex)" wrote in message ...
Hello Bruce and Ernmander ,
I've had the same problem (trust relationship) and i've solved it. Now i've
got
a network speed problem. When i try to open a public folder in the 2k3
server, takes
about 30-60 seconds to open a folder. With XP (even home edition) takes less
than
2 seconds. Can you help me please ?

"Bruce Sanderson" wrote:

Hmm mysterious. I've several Vista Business, Enterprise and Ultimate
computers in two domains - one Windows 2000, the other Windows 2003 R2 and
have not experienced this problem.

Have you been doing anything unusual on the Vista client, like restoring to
saved restore point or from other backup?

Do you have this problem with other Vista client computers?

You might try the Microsoft Memory Tester program to make sure the Vista
client doesn't have faulty memory and run chkdsk against the hard drive.

--
Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders

It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.



"Ernmander" wrote in message
...
Hi Bruce

The steps listed below are exactly what I have been doing. Its strange
that
the XP workstations attached to the same domain do not have the problem.

The only permanent fix I have made work is to log onto the workstation as
Administrator but that defeats the object.

"Bruce Sanderson" wrote:

Not sure what "reset everything on the server" means, but if, in Active
Directory Users and Computers you:
right click the Vista Computer's account
select Reset Account

you have broken the trust relationship with the Vista Computer and it
will
have to be joined to the domain again.

1. Logon to the Vista computer using the local, administrative user
account
that was created when Vista was installed
2. click Start, right click Computer, select Properties
3. click Advanced system settings in the left (Tasks) pane; click
Continue
4. select the Computer Name tab; click Change...
5. select the Workgroup radio button; key any character string (e.g.
workgroup); click OK
6. key something (anything) in the user name and password boxes - you
have
to key something, but it doesn't matter what; click OK
7. you should get the Welcome to the ... workgroup. message box; click OK
8. restart the computer
9. on the domain controller, reset the computer account
10. logon to the Vista computer using the local administrative user
account
(same as step 1)
11. join the computer to the domain again (same idea as steps 2 through
6,
except select the Domain radio button and supply appropriate domain
credentials when prompted

If there is still a problem, then I suggest do steps 1 through 8, then
delete the computer account from the domain, create a new computer
account
with the same name, then join the computer to the domain again (steps 10
and
11).

--
Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders

It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.



"Ernmander" wrote in message
...
I keep getting the message from my Vista Business workstation that is
connected to Server 2003 Enterprise Domain. "The trust relationship
between
workstation and primary domain failed" Then I cannot log onto the
domain.

I reset everything on the server, sometimes it works sometimes it
does'nt.
The XP workstations attached to the domain do not have this problem. So
the
problem must be in Vista , but where....?

I've solved the relationship problem by :

1º removing the computer from the domain to workgroup.
2º at the server, removed the computer from the domain computers.
3º associate the vista computer to the domain again.
this problem was solved but not the Slow Networking! Im still trying to
understand that one.. i'll appreciate all the help

What i think about this relation error. First of all i've tryed to connect
the computer with the http://servername/connectcomputer (w2k3 sbs r2 server).
Now i know that the sbs connector is not compatible with vista until the
"windows 2003 to vista clients update".Some how i think this connector caused
some damage , dunno..
"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

I wish you posted the details how you fixed trust relationship so that we would benefit from your experience.

regarding the slow issue, it could be the name resolution issue. Or this search result may help,

Vista Slow IssuesVista and XP Networking Unable to copy files ... Both the vista machine and the xp machine can see each other, ... Vista: very slow to copy large files . ...
http://www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistaslow.htm


Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Pedro (Hex)" wrote in message ...
Hello Bruce and Ernmander ,
I've had the same problem (trust relationship) and i've solved it. Now i've
got
a network speed problem. When i try to open a public folder in the 2k3
server, takes
about 30-60 seconds to open a folder. With XP (even home edition) takes less
than
2 seconds. Can you help me please ?

"Bruce Sanderson" wrote:

Hmm mysterious. I've several Vista Business, Enterprise and Ultimate
computers in two domains - one Windows 2000, the other Windows 2003 R2 and
have not experienced this problem.

Have you been doing anything unusual on the Vista client, like restoring to
saved restore point or from other backup?

Do you have this problem with other Vista client computers?

You might try the Microsoft Memory Tester program to make sure the Vista
client doesn't have faulty memory and run chkdsk against the hard drive.

--
Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders

It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.



"Ernmander" wrote in message
...
Hi Bruce

The steps listed below are exactly what I have been doing. Its strange
that
the XP workstations attached to the same domain do not have the problem.

The only permanent fix I have made work is to log onto the workstation as
Administrator but that defeats the object.

"Bruce Sanderson" wrote:

Not sure what "reset everything on the server" means, but if, in Active
Directory Users and Computers you:
right click the Vista Computer's account
select Reset Account

you have broken the trust relationship with the Vista Computer and it
will
have to be joined to the domain again.

1. Logon to the Vista computer using the local, administrative user
account
that was created when Vista was installed
2. click Start, right click Computer, select Properties
3. click Advanced system settings in the left (Tasks) pane; click
Continue
4. select the Computer Name tab; click Change...
5. select the Workgroup radio button; key any character string (e.g.
workgroup); click OK
6. key something (anything) in the user name and password boxes - you
have
to key something, but it doesn't matter what; click OK
7. you should get the Welcome to the ... workgroup. message box; click OK
8. restart the computer
9. on the domain controller, reset the computer account
10. logon to the Vista computer using the local administrative user
account
(same as step 1)
11. join the computer to the domain again (same idea as steps 2 through
6,
except select the Domain radio button and supply appropriate domain
credentials when prompted

If there is still a problem, then I suggest do steps 1 through 8, then
delete the computer account from the domain, create a new computer
account
with the same name, then join the computer to the domain again (steps 10
and
11).

--
Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders

It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.



"Ernmander" wrote in message
...
I keep getting the message from my Vista Business workstation that is
connected to Server 2003 Enterprise Domain. "The trust relationship
between
workstation and primary domain failed" Then I cannot log onto the
domain.

I reset everything on the server, sometimes it works sometimes it
does'nt.
The XP workstations attached to the domain do not have this problem. So
the
problem must be in Vista , but where....?

Thank you for the update.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Pedro (Hex)" wrote in message ...
I've solved the relationship problem by :

1º removing the computer from the domain to workgroup.
2º at the server, removed the computer from the domain computers.
3º associate the vista computer to the domain again.
this problem was solved but not the Slow Networking! Im still trying to
understand that one.. i'll appreciate all the help

What i think about this relation error. First of all i've tryed to connect
the computer with the http://servername/connectcomputer (w2k3 sbs r2 server).
Now i know that the sbs connector is not compatible with vista until the
"windows 2003 to vista clients update".Some how i think this connector caused
some damage , dunno..
"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

I wish you posted the details how you fixed trust relationship so that we would benefit from your experience.

regarding the slow issue, it could be the name resolution issue. Or this search result may help,

Vista Slow IssuesVista and XP Networking Unable to copy files ... Both the vista machine and the xp machine can see each other, ... Vista: very slow to copy large files . ...
http://www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistaslow.htm


Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Pedro (Hex)" wrote in message ...
Hello Bruce and Ernmander ,
I've had the same problem (trust relationship) and i've solved it. Now i've
got
a network speed problem. When i try to open a public folder in the 2k3
server, takes
about 30-60 seconds to open a folder. With XP (even home edition) takes less
than
2 seconds. Can you help me please ?

"Bruce Sanderson" wrote:

Hmm mysterious. I've several Vista Business, Enterprise and Ultimate
computers in two domains - one Windows 2000, the other Windows 2003 R2 and
have not experienced this problem.

Have you been doing anything unusual on the Vista client, like restoring to
saved restore point or from other backup?

Do you have this problem with other Vista client computers?

You might try the Microsoft Memory Tester program to make sure the Vista
client doesn't have faulty memory and run chkdsk against the hard drive.

--
Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders

It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.



"Ernmander" wrote in message
...
Hi Bruce

The steps listed below are exactly what I have been doing. Its strange
that
the XP workstations attached to the same domain do not have the problem.

The only permanent fix I have made work is to log onto the workstation as
Administrator but that defeats the object.

"Bruce Sanderson" wrote:

Not sure what "reset everything on the server" means, but if, in Active
Directory Users and Computers you:
right click the Vista Computer's account
select Reset Account

you have broken the trust relationship with the Vista Computer and it
will
have to be joined to the domain again.

1. Logon to the Vista computer using the local, administrative user
account
that was created when Vista was installed
2. click Start, right click Computer, select Properties
3. click Advanced system settings in the left (Tasks) pane; click
Continue
4. select the Computer Name tab; click Change...
5. select the Workgroup radio button; key any character string (e.g.
workgroup); click OK
6. key something (anything) in the user name and password boxes - you
have
to key something, but it doesn't matter what; click OK
7. you should get the Welcome to the ... workgroup. message box; click OK
8. restart the computer
9. on the domain controller, reset the computer account
10. logon to the Vista computer using the local administrative user
account
(same as step 1)
11. join the computer to the domain again (same idea as steps 2 through
6,
except select the Domain radio button and supply appropriate domain
credentials when prompted

If there is still a problem, then I suggest do steps 1 through 8, then
delete the computer account from the domain, create a new computer
account
with the same name, then join the computer to the domain again (steps 10
and
11).

--
Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders

It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.



"Ernmander" wrote in message
...
I keep getting the message from my Vista Business workstation that is
connected to Server 2003 Enterprise Domain. "The trust relationship
between
workstation and primary domain failed" Then I cannot log onto the
domain.

I reset everything on the server, sometimes it works sometimes it
does'nt.
The XP workstations attached to the domain do not have this problem. So
the
problem must be in Vista , but where....?