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Old April 4th 07, 07:42 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
Neil
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I have been reading all the posts and cannot find an answer that works. I
have Vista Home Prem. I cannot get access to many of the folders on the C:
drive. I consider myself pretty well versed in Windows but Vista totally
baffles me. I cannot even get access to the "My Pictures",etc folders in
the Documents and settings section of my own account. I have a Dell laptop
and I am the only account and it is an admistrator account. I am not very
worried about outsiders getting access, there is no sensitive data and I am
the only user. It is on a secure wifi system in my home.

Please someone help!!

Thanks,
Neil

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Old April 4th 07, 09:48 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
BillD
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"Neil" wrote:

I have been reading all the posts and cannot find an answer that works. I
have Vista Home Prem. I cannot get access to many of the folders on the C:
drive. I consider myself pretty well versed in Windows but Vista totally
baffles me. I cannot even get access to the "My Pictures",etc folders in
the Documents and settings section of my own account. I have a Dell laptop
and I am the only account and it is an admistrator account.


if you use the deaful configuration with UAC "on" then UAC will prompt you
in order to get the folder permissions. It's very simple with UAC "on".
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Old April 4th 07, 09:48 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
BillD
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"Neil" wrote:

I have been reading all the posts and cannot find an answer that works. I
have Vista Home Prem. I cannot get access to many of the folders on the C:
drive. I consider myself pretty well versed in Windows but Vista totally
baffles me. I cannot even get access to the "My Pictures",etc folders in
the Documents and settings section of my own account. I have a Dell laptop
and I am the only account and it is an admistrator account.


if you use the default configuration with UAC "on", then UAC will prompt you
in order to get the folder permissions. It's very simple with UAC "on".
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Old April 4th 07, 12:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
Michael
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My Pictures is not actually a folder (note the little arrow on it) it is a
redirection for older programs that hard coded in that name. The actual
folder is named Pictures in Users\{your name}\

Michael

"Neil" wrote in message
...
I have been reading all the posts and cannot find an answer that works. I
have Vista Home Prem. I cannot get access to many of the folders on the C:
drive. I consider myself pretty well versed in Windows but Vista totally
baffles me. I cannot even get access to the "My Pictures",etc folders in
the Documents and settings section of my own account. I have a Dell laptop
and I am the only account and it is an admistrator account. I am not very
worried about outsiders getting access, there is no sensitive data and I am
the only user. It is on a secure wifi system in my home.

Please someone help!!

Thanks,
Neil


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Old April 4th 07, 12:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
Malke
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Neil wrote:
I have been reading all the posts and cannot find an answer that works.
I have Vista Home Prem. I cannot get access to many of the folders on
the C: drive. I consider myself pretty well versed in Windows but Vista
totally baffles me. I cannot even get access to the "My Pictures",etc
folders in the Documents and settings section of my own account. I have
a Dell laptop and I am the only account and it is an admistrator
account. I am not very worried about outsiders getting access, there is
no sensitive data and I am the only user. It is on a secure wifi system
in my home.


You've been given the reason why you're having problems by Michael in
this thread. Here's a very detailed explanation by MVP Jimmy Brush of
the Vista folder hierarchy:

"Many folders used by earlier versions of Windows have been moved to a
new location or given a new name in Windows Vista. However, the old
folders can still be seen if you have enabled Show Hidden Files. Notice
they are displayed with a transparent icon and a shortcut symbol.

"Although these look like folders, they are actually what is known as a
junction. Junctions behave like shortcuts, but look just like regular
folders. Their purpose is to silently redirect programs that access them
to their Windows Vista equivalent.

"Since junctions aren't really folders, it is not possible to access
them, and any attempt to do so will give you an "Access Denied" error.

Here is a list of all of the folders that have been moved in Windows
Vista, along with their new location:
Windows XP Location Windows Vista Location
\Documents and Settings \Users
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents \Users\$USER$\Documents
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents\My Music \Users\$USER$\Music
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents\My Pictures
\Users\$USER$\Pictures
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents\My Videos
\Users\$USER$\Videos
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\Application Data
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\Cookies
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Co okies
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Local
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\NetHood
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Ne twork Shortcuts
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\PrintHood
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Pr inter Shortcuts
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\Recent
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Re cent
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\SendTo
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Se ndTo
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\Start Menu
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\St art Menu
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\Templates
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Te mplates
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings\Application Data
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Local
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings\History
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Hist ory
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temp orary Internet Files
\Documents and Settings\All Users \ProgramData
\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data \ProgramData
\Documents and Settings\All Users\Desktop \Users\Public\Desktop
\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents \Users\Public\Documents
\Documents and Settings\All Users\Favorites \Users\Public\Favorites
\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu
\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu
\Documents and Settings\All Users\Templates
\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Templates
\Documents and Settings\Default User \Users\Default "


Hope that helps,

Malke
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Old April 4th 07, 01:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
Paul Adare
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On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 05:54:21 -0700, Malke wrote:

Here's a very detailed explanation by MVP Jimmy Brush of
the Vista folder hierarchy:


"Since junctions aren't really folders, it is not possible to access
them, and any attempt to do so will give you an "Access Denied" error.


Except that the above is technically incorrect. The Access Denied when
attempting to access a junction has nothing at all to do with the fact that
they are junctions and has everything to do with the fact that they have a
Deny for Everyone ACE on them.

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Old April 4th 07, 08:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
Neil
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Thank you and Michael for the explantation. I figured that the little arrow
meant more than the old shortcut arrow but did not know what. I did manage
to give myself permission the access the Application Data folder in my
Documents and Settings folder but that was the only one that I could change.

Neil



"Malke" wrote in message
...
Neil wrote:
I have been reading all the posts and cannot find an answer that works.
I have Vista Home Prem. I cannot get access to many of the folders on
the C: drive. I consider myself pretty well versed in Windows but Vista
totally baffles me. I cannot even get access to the "My Pictures",etc
folders in the Documents and settings section of my own account. I have
a Dell laptop and I am the only account and it is an admistrator account.
I am not very worried about outsiders getting access, there is no
sensitive data and I am the only user. It is on a secure wifi system in
my home.


You've been given the reason why you're having problems by Michael in this
thread. Here's a very detailed explanation by MVP Jimmy Brush of the Vista
folder hierarchy:

"Many folders used by earlier versions of Windows have been moved to a new
location or given a new name in Windows Vista. However, the old folders
can still be seen if you have enabled Show Hidden Files. Notice they are
displayed with a transparent icon and a shortcut symbol.

"Although these look like folders, they are actually what is known as a
junction. Junctions behave like shortcuts, but look just like regular
folders. Their purpose is to silently redirect programs that access them
to their Windows Vista equivalent.

"Since junctions aren't really folders, it is not possible to access them,
and any attempt to do so will give you an "Access Denied" error.

Here is a list of all of the folders that have been moved in Windows
Vista, along with their new location:
Windows XP Location Windows Vista Location
\Documents and Settings \Users
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents \Users\$USER$\Documents
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents\My Music
\Users\$USER$\Music
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents\My Pictures
\Users\$USER$\Pictures
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\My Documents\My Videos \Users\$USER$\Videos
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\Application Data
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\Cookies
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Co okies
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings \Users\$USER$\AppData\Local
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\NetHood
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Ne twork Shortcuts
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\PrintHood
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Pr inter Shortcuts
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\Recent
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Re cent
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\SendTo
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Se ndTo
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\Start Menu
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\St art Menu
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\Templates
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Te mplates
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings\Application Data
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Local
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings\History
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Hist ory
\Documents and Settings\$USER$\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
\Users\$USER$\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temp orary Internet Files
\Documents and Settings\All Users \ProgramData
\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data \ProgramData
\Documents and Settings\All Users\Desktop \Users\Public\Desktop
\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents \Users\Public\Documents
\Documents and Settings\All Users\Favorites \Users\Public\Favorites
\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu
\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu
\Documents and Settings\All Users\Templates
\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Templates
\Documents and Settings\Default User \Users\Default "


Hope that helps,

Malke
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www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User


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Old April 4th 07, 10:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
LoneStar
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"Malke" wrote in message
...

You've been given the reason why you're having problems by Michael in this
thread. Here's a very detailed explanation by MVP Jimmy Brush of the Vista
folder hierarchy:

"Many folders used by earlier versions of Windows have been moved to a new
location or given a new name in Windows Vista. However, the old folders
can still be seen if you have enabled Show Hidden Files. Notice they are
displayed with a transparent icon and a shortcut symbol.

SNIP.............

Excellent answer. I had this same "problem" today after I played around
with my Folder Options. I just reset things to the default settings (esp.
not to "show hidden files...") and all is well now. I thought I found my
first bug in my Premium version, but not yet. Great OS!

EW


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Old April 9th 07, 08:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
d3daiM
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So where are the new folders located?

Like, where is the New Start Menu folder?

I also cannot modify various files in my C:\Program Files [(x86)] such
as the MSN folder without an access denied. I am, however, logged on in
the Administrator account.


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Old April 12th 07, 12:01 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.security
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d3daiM;266193 Wrote:
So where are the new folders located?

Like, where is the New Start Menu folder?

I also cannot modify various files in my C:\Program Files [(x86)] such
as the MSN folder without an access denied. I am, however, logged on in
the Administrator account.bump..


BTW, cool trick Bgg


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