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I've been trying for a couple days to be able to share my internet and
printer through my new Vista desktop and I can't get it to work. I have my Vista desktop attached to my cable modem and then through another ethernet card, it goes to a router where it connects to the other XP machines. I can use the internet on the Vista machine, but none of the XP machines. And of course, when I had an XP desktop in place of the Vista one, it all worked fine. Here's some of what I've done: Made sure workgroup names are the same Tried to ping the XP machines and gotten no response Turned off both the Windows and Norton firewall Checked that the ethernet card that goes from the Vista to the router and it's working Made both network connections private networks Turned on printer sharing Tried making both the internet gateway and the router gateway networks the ICS Turned off password protected sharing I just can't figure this out! And HP (who I bought the vista machine from) won't help! Any ideas? |
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I also tried following Bruce's instructions on WIndows XP/Vista Networking to
enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP for TCP/IP V4 "Connie" wrote: I've been trying for a couple days to be able to share my internet and printer through my new Vista desktop and I can't get it to work. I have my Vista desktop attached to my cable modem and then through another ethernet card, it goes to a router where it connects to the other XP machines. I can use the internet on the Vista machine, but none of the XP machines. And of course, when I had an XP desktop in place of the Vista one, it all worked fine. Here's some of what I've done: Made sure workgroup names are the same Tried to ping the XP machines and gotten no response Turned off both the Windows and Norton firewall Checked that the ethernet card that goes from the Vista to the router and it's working Made both network connections private networks Turned on printer sharing Tried making both the internet gateway and the router gateway networks the ICS Turned off password protected sharing I just can't figure this out! And HP (who I bought the vista machine from) won't help! Any ideas? |
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Connie wrote: I've been trying for a couple days to be able to share my internet and printer through my new Vista desktop and I can't get it to work. I have my Vista desktop attached to my cable modem and then through another ethernet card, it goes to a router where it connects to the other XP machines. I can use the internet on the Vista machine, but none of the XP machines. And of course, when I had an XP desktop in place of the Vista one, it all worked fine. Here's some of what I've done: Made sure workgroup names are the same Tried to ping the XP machines and gotten no response Turned off both the Windows and Norton firewall Checked that the ethernet card that goes from the Vista to the router and it's working Made both network connections private networks Turned on printer sharing Tried making both the internet gateway and the router gateway networks the ICS Turned off password protected sharing I just can't figure this out! And HP (who I bought the vista machine from) won't help! Any ideas? Since you have a router, I don't understand why you're trying to set up the Vista computer with Internet Connection Sharing. A typical setup with a cable modem, router, and multiple computers is: 1. Connect the cable modem to the router's WAN (Internet) port. 2. Connect all of the computers to the router's LAN ports. Is there a reason that you can't do that in your setup? -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com |
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It was an issue early on when I originally set up the network with Windows or
Comcast...I don't remember why. I'm not sure I can easily change that. And I know it should work with this configuration as it did for XP and all the help articles I've found said that this is doable. I will say that apparently doing the netbios thing did enable us to finally share the printer...but still no internet sharing. Any other ideas? I tried having ICS on both the cable modem connection and the router connection...which one should it be on? And do I have to reboot everything every time I change that? Thanks for any help you can give! "Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote: In article , Connie wrote: I've been trying for a couple days to be able to share my internet and printer through my new Vista desktop and I can't get it to work. I have my Vista desktop attached to my cable modem and then through another ethernet card, it goes to a router where it connects to the other XP machines. I can use the internet on the Vista machine, but none of the XP machines. And of course, when I had an XP desktop in place of the Vista one, it all worked fine. Here's some of what I've done: Made sure workgroup names are the same Tried to ping the XP machines and gotten no response Turned off both the Windows and Norton firewall Checked that the ethernet card that goes from the Vista to the router and it's working Made both network connections private networks Turned on printer sharing Tried making both the internet gateway and the router gateway networks the ICS Turned off password protected sharing I just can't figure this out! And HP (who I bought the vista machine from) won't help! Any ideas? Since you have a router, I don't understand why you're trying to set up the Vista computer with Internet Connection Sharing. A typical setup with a cable modem, router, and multiple computers is: 1. Connect the cable modem to the router's WAN (Internet) port. 2. Connect all of the computers to the router's LAN ports. Is there a reason that you can't do that in your setup? -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com |
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Connie wrote: It was an issue early on when I originally set up the network with Windows or Comcast...I don't remember why. I'm not sure I can easily change that. And I know it should work with this configuration as it did for XP and all the help articles I've found said that this is doable. I will say that apparently doing the netbios thing did enable us to finally share the printer...but still no internet sharing. Any other ideas? I tried having ICS on both the cable modem connection and the router connection...which one should it be on? And do I have to reboot everything every time I change that? Thanks for any help you can give! Sharing a Comcast cable modem connection using a router is very common, and I can't imagine why it wouldn't work in your network. Even so, it should be possible to use ICS on Vista just like on XP. Share the cable modem connection, not the router connection. This article should help: http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...b14771033.mspx If you use ICS, use the router only as a network switch, not as a router: 1. Disable the router's built-in DHCP server. 2. Set the router's LAN IP address to 192.168.0.x, where "x" is between 2 and 254. 2. Connect all of the computers to LAN ports on the router. 3. Don't connect anything to the router's WAN (Internet) port. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com |
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OK...here's where I am now:
I can see all the computers on the network and they can access the printer attached to my computer, so I know the home network is working. It ends up, I think it is a switch, not a router (It's an SCM EZSwitch 10/100 1016DT), so I think that's OK, and besides, it is letting me share the printer, so it's working. I also noticed in the ICS sharing settings, that none of the services was selected, so I went in and selected them all. But here's where I think the problem might be (Just call me knowlegeable enough to be dangerous!): When I go to share the internet connection, In she sharing tab there is a box called Home networking connection. It is a text box and mine says Wireless Network Connection. But that's not the connection I'm using! It lets me select the name, but it won't let me type over it. Is that the problem? Thanks again for your help! My family is breathing down on neck wanting me to switch back to my XP machine! "Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote: In article , Connie wrote: It was an issue early on when I originally set up the network with Windows or Comcast...I don't remember why. I'm not sure I can easily change that. And I know it should work with this configuration as it did for XP and all the help articles I've found said that this is doable. I will say that apparently doing the netbios thing did enable us to finally share the printer...but still no internet sharing. Any other ideas? I tried having ICS on both the cable modem connection and the router connection...which one should it be on? And do I have to reboot everything every time I change that? Thanks for any help you can give! Sharing a Comcast cable modem connection using a router is very common, and I can't imagine why it wouldn't work in your network. Even so, it should be possible to use ICS on Vista just like on XP. Share the cable modem connection, not the router connection. This article should help: http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...b14771033.mspx If you use ICS, use the router only as a network switch, not as a router: 1. Disable the router's built-in DHCP server. 2. Set the router's LAN IP address to 192.168.0.x, where "x" is between 2 and 254. 2. Connect all of the computers to LAN ports on the router. 3. Don't connect anything to the router's WAN (Internet) port. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com |
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In article ,
Connie wrote: OK...here's where I am now: I can see all the computers on the network and they can access the printer attached to my computer, so I know the home network is working. It ends up, I think it is a switch, not a router (It's an SCM EZSwitch 10/100 1016DT), so I think that's OK, and besides, it is letting me share the printer, so it's working. I also noticed in the ICS sharing settings, that none of the services was selected, so I went in and selected them all. But here's where I think the problem might be (Just call me knowlegeable enough to be dangerous!): When I go to share the internet connection, In she sharing tab there is a box called Home networking connection. It is a text box and mine says Wireless Network Connection. But that's not the connection I'm using! It lets me select the name, but it won't let me type over it. Is that the problem? Thanks again for your help! My family is breathing down on neck wanting me to switch back to my XP machine! Yes, that's a switch, not a router. To use ICS, your computer needs two network adapters: one for the cable modem, and one for the home network connection through the switch. Share the cable modem connection. Click the down arrow in the box under "Home networking connection" and choose the wired LAN connection from the menu. The best long-term solution would be to replace the switch with a router, eliminating the need for Internet Connection Sharing. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com |
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I've done all but change the Home networking connection. There is no arrow
there that causes a drop down and it doesn't allow me to change the text in the text box. It won't let me change it from Wireless Network Connection to the connection that it should be. "Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote: In article , Connie wrote: OK...here's where I am now: I can see all the computers on the network and they can access the printer attached to my computer, so I know the home network is working. It ends up, I think it is a switch, not a router (It's an SCM EZSwitch 10/100 1016DT), so I think that's OK, and besides, it is letting me share the printer, so it's working. I also noticed in the ICS sharing settings, that none of the services was selected, so I went in and selected them all. But here's where I think the problem might be (Just call me knowlegeable enough to be dangerous!): When I go to share the internet connection, In she sharing tab there is a box called Home networking connection. It is a text box and mine says Wireless Network Connection. But that's not the connection I'm using! It lets me select the name, but it won't let me type over it. Is that the problem? Thanks again for your help! My family is breathing down on neck wanting me to switch back to my XP machine! Yes, that's a switch, not a router. To use ICS, your computer needs two network adapters: one for the cable modem, and one for the home network connection through the switch. Share the cable modem connection. Click the down arrow in the box under "Home networking connection" and choose the wired LAN connection from the menu. The best long-term solution would be to replace the switch with a router, eliminating the need for Internet Connection Sharing. -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com |
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In article ,
Connie wrote: OK...here's where I am now: I can see all the computers on the network and they can access the printer attached to my computer, so I know the home network is working. It ends up, I think it is a switch, not a router (It's an SCM EZSwitch 10/100 1016DT), so I think that's OK, and besides, it is letting me share the printer, so it's working. I also noticed in the ICS sharing settings, that none of the services was selected, so I went in and selected them all. But here's where I think the problem might be (Just call me knowlegeable enough to be dangerous!): When I go to share the internet connection, In she sharing tab there is a box called Home networking connection. It is a text box and mine says Wireless Network Connection. But that's not the connection I'm using! It lets me select the name, but it won't let me type over it. Is that the problem? Thanks again for your help! My family is breathing down on neck wanting me to switch back to my XP machine! Yes, that's a switch, not a router. To use ICS, your computer needs two network adapters: one for the cable modem, and one for the home network connection through the switch. Share the cable modem connection. Click the down arrow in the box under "Home networking connection" and choose the wired LAN connection from the menu. The best long-term solution would be to replace the switch with a router, eliminating the need for Internet Connection Sharing. I've done all but change the Home networking connection. There is no arrow there that causes a drop down and it doesn't allow me to change the text in the text box. It won't let me change it from Wireless Network Connection to the connection that it should be. Your computer needs two wired Ethernet network adapters: one connected to the cable modem, and one connected to the switch. Does it have them? If so, make sure that the network connections for both of them are enabled. If not, what do you see for network adapters in Device Manager, and what do you see for network connections in Network Connections? -- Best Wishes, Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking) Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups. Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program http://mvp.support.microsoft.com |
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Boy, this is a challenge...I had a tech out for 3 hours and even he couldn't
figure it out. I do have 2 ethernet cards, and one shows as local and internet and the other shows as just local. The one that shows as local and internet is the one I tried to do ICS. I was finally able to point it to the local connection, but it still didn't work. We're headed out of town tomorrow, so for now I swapped back in my XP machine where all the connections work! But if you can give me some new ideas that I can try when I get back, I'd love to hear them. I'm even willing to pay a tech at this point (didn't have to pay the guy today...they have a guarantee they fix the problem or no charge!)! |
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