Is Vista a step backwards? I don't need all of these UAC controls. For many
years now I have gotten along just fine with few hindrances to efficiency.
Now Vista comes along and I can't get hardly anything done because of this
over-controlling UAC concept and other ridiculous permission junk.

If I want to uninstall or delete something, I don't want the system telling
me no! I am capable of fixing any mistakes I might make.

When I installed XP for the first time, it was a learning experience, and I
had to seek out some new device drivers, but right out of the box I was able
to do good solid computer tasks. Not so with Vista. UAC and other Vista
schemes really, really get in the way. Microsoft should leave it up to the
computer user to set up his/her own protection, There are plenty of great
anti-virus and anti-spyware programs out there, and some of the good ones
are free. So why is UAC needed? It's a wonder that Microsoft didn't build
Norton into Vista!

Hi there. I understand your frustration. It is possible to turn UAC off, but
I can't recommend that, of course. (Hint: check User Accounts in Control
Panel.) 'Nuff said.

Thanks,
Gloria

--
Gloria Boyer
Windows User Assistance
Microsoft Corporation


"Retired" wrote in message
...
Is Vista a step backwards? I don't need all of these UAC controls. For
many years now I have gotten along just fine with few hindrances to
efficiency. Now Vista comes along and I can't get hardly anything done
because of this over-controlling UAC concept and other ridiculous
permission junk.

If I want to uninstall or delete something, I don't want the system
telling me no! I am capable of fixing any mistakes I might make.

When I installed XP for the first time, it was a learning experience, and
I had to seek out some new device drivers, but right out of the box I was
able to do good solid computer tasks. Not so with Vista. UAC and other
Vista schemes really, really get in the way. Microsoft should leave it up
to the computer user to set up his/her own protection, There are plenty of
great anti-virus and anti-spyware programs out there, and some of the good
ones are free. So why is UAC needed? It's a wonder that Microsoft didn't
build Norton into Vista!

Thank you, Gloria. I've done that, thus eliminating a whole host of
interfering "advice". I found out how to turn off UAC by using the HELP
feature. Unfortunately there are still too many warning messages interfering
with my work. I suppose I'll eventually discover how to block them as well.

Security protection features in Vista may help the complete "newbie" user,
but for those of us who have bothered to learn how to protect ourselves (AV
programs, etc.), the Vista schemes just get in the way.

Regards.

"Gloria Boyer [MSFT]" wrote in message
...
Hi there. I understand your frustration. It is possible to turn UAC off,
but I can't recommend that, of course. (Hint: check User Accounts in
Control Panel.) 'Nuff said.

Thanks,
Gloria

--
Gloria Boyer
Windows User Assistance
Microsoft Corporation


"Retired" wrote in message
...
Is Vista a step backwards? I don't need all of these UAC controls. For
many years now I have gotten along just fine with few hindrances to
efficiency. Now Vista comes along and I can't get hardly anything done
because of this over-controlling UAC concept and other ridiculous
permission junk.

If I want to uninstall or delete something, I don't want the system
telling me no! I am capable of fixing any mistakes I might make.

When I installed XP for the first time, it was a learning experience, and
I had to seek out some new device drivers, but right out of the box I was
able to do good solid computer tasks. Not so with Vista. UAC and other
Vista schemes really, really get in the way. Microsoft should leave it up
to the computer user to set up his/her own protection, There are plenty
of great anti-virus and anti-spyware programs out there, and some of the
good ones are free. So why is UAC needed? It's a wonder that Microsoft
didn't build Norton into Vista!

"Retired" wrote in message
...
Thank you, Gloria. I've done that, thus eliminating a whole host of
interfering "advice". I found out how to turn off UAC by using the
HELP feature. Unfortunately there are still too many warning messages
interfering with my work. I suppose I'll eventually discover how to
block them as well.

Security protection features in Vista may help the complete "newbie"
user, but for those of us who have bothered to learn how to protect
ourselves (AV programs, etc.), the Vista schemes just get in the way.

Regards.

"Gloria Boyer [MSFT]" wrote in message
...
Hi there. I understand your frustration. It is possible to turn UAC
off, but I can't recommend that, of course. (Hint: check User
Accounts in Control Panel.) 'Nuff said.

Thanks,
Gloria

--
Gloria Boyer
Windows User Assistance
Microsoft Corporation


"Retired" wrote in message
...
Is Vista a step backwards? I don't need all of these UAC controls.
For many years now I have gotten along just fine with few hindrances
to efficiency. Now Vista comes along and I can't get hardly anything
done because of this over-controlling UAC concept and other
ridiculous permission junk.

If I want to uninstall or delete something, I don't want the system
telling me no! I am capable of fixing any mistakes I might make.

When I installed XP for the first time, it was a learning
experience, and I had to seek out some new device drivers, but right
out of the box I was able to do good solid computer tasks. Not so
with Vista. UAC and other Vista schemes really, really get in the
way. Microsoft should leave it up to the computer user to set up
his/her own protection, There are plenty of great anti-virus and
anti-spyware programs out there, and some of the good ones are free.
So why is UAC needed? It's a wonder that Microsoft didn't build
Norton into Vista!




Out of interest, what is it that gets in your way now ?
I have put UAC back on after a couple of months while I installed things
, tweaked and generally got things the way I wanted and I barely notice
it.
Am I missing some 'useful' advice or admonishments from Microsoft or do
you just do more adventurous things than me I wonder.
I guess I would like to set my own pace regarding updates, I get the MS
e-mail advisories and bulletins and was happy with a monthly routine
under XP, but other than that I'm not being chivvied too much.

Regards,
Tom (also retired)

The different features that can protect a computer may get in the way
of an experienced user, but that is not really an issue.
What is an issue is a secure computer set up so someone with little or
no experience can be safer.
The same kinds of things experienced users complain about are the same
things Microsoft was blasted for in the past.
Another example was the firewall which was initially disabled when
Windows XP first shipped.
Simply having the firewall enabled would have prevented Blaster of a
few years ago.

An experienced user can far more easily modify/disable a setting while
a new user may not know or even understand such protection is
available or even needed.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Retired" wrote in message
...
Thank you, Gloria. I've done that, thus eliminating a whole host of
interfering "advice". I found out how to turn off UAC by using the
HELP feature. Unfortunately there are still too many warning
messages interfering with my work. I suppose I'll eventually
discover how to block them as well.
Security protection features in Vista may help the complete
"newbie" user, but for those of us who have bothered to learn how to
protect ourselves (AV programs, etc.), the Vista schemes just get in
the way.

Regards.

"Gloria Boyer [MSFT]" wrote in
message ...
Hi there. I understand your frustration. It is possible to turn UAC
off, but I can't recommend that, of course. (Hint: check User
Accounts in Control Panel.) 'Nuff said.

Thanks,
Gloria

--
Gloria Boyer
Windows User Assistance
Microsoft Corporation


"Retired" wrote in message
...
Is Vista a step backwards? I don't need all of these UAC controls.
For many years now I have gotten along just fine with few
hindrances to efficiency. Now Vista comes along and I can't get
hardly anything done because of this over-controlling UAC concept
and other ridiculous permission junk.

If I want to uninstall or delete something, I don't want the
system telling me no! I am capable of fixing any mistakes I might
make.

When I installed XP for the first time, it was a learning
experience, and I had to seek out some new device drivers, but
right out of the box I was able to do good solid computer tasks.
Not so with Vista. UAC and other Vista schemes really, really get
in the way. Microsoft should leave it up to the computer user to
set up his/her own protection, There are plenty of great
anti-virus and anti-spyware programs out there, and some of the
good ones are free. So why is UAC needed? It's a wonder that
Microsoft didn't build Norton into Vista!

You brought up some very valid points. However, if I were an inexperienced
user, the security functions in Vista would have me soon throwing up my
hands in despair because of all of the interruptions. As it is, I know how
to avoid them.

Guess there just can't be a perfect world.


"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote in message
...
The different features that can protect a computer may get in the way of
an experienced user, but that is not really an issue.
What is an issue is a secure computer set up so someone with little or no
experience can be safer.
The same kinds of things experienced users complain about are the same
things Microsoft was blasted for in the past.
Another example was the firewall which was initially disabled when Windows
XP first shipped.
Simply having the firewall enabled would have prevented Blaster of a few
years ago.

An experienced user can far more easily modify/disable a setting while a
new user may not know or even understand such protection is available or
even needed.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Retired" wrote in message
...
Thank you, Gloria. I've done that, thus eliminating a whole host of
interfering "advice". I found out how to turn off UAC by using the HELP
feature. Unfortunately there are still too many warning messages
interfering with my work. I suppose I'll eventually discover how to block
them as well.
Security protection features in Vista may help the complete "newbie"
user, but for those of us who have bothered to learn how to protect
ourselves (AV programs, etc.), the Vista schemes just get in the way.

Regards.

"Gloria Boyer [MSFT]" wrote in message
...
Hi there. I understand your frustration. It is possible to turn UAC off,
but I can't recommend that, of course. (Hint: check User Accounts in
Control Panel.) 'Nuff said.

Thanks,
Gloria

--
Gloria Boyer
Windows User Assistance
Microsoft Corporation


"Retired" wrote in message
...
Is Vista a step backwards? I don't need all of these UAC controls. For
many years now I have gotten along just fine with few hindrances to
efficiency. Now Vista comes along and I can't get hardly anything done
because of this over-controlling UAC concept and other ridiculous
permission junk.

If I want to uninstall or delete something, I don't want the system
telling me no! I am capable of fixing any mistakes I might make.

When I installed XP for the first time, it was a learning experience,
and I had to seek out some new device drivers, but right out of the box
I was able to do good solid computer tasks. Not so with Vista. UAC and
other Vista schemes really, really get in the way. Microsoft should
leave it up to the computer user to set up his/her own protection,
There are plenty of great anti-virus and anti-spyware programs out
there, and some of the good ones are free. So why is UAC needed? It's a
wonder that Microsoft didn't build Norton into Vista!