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Old April 26th 07, 01:02 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
AMD
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Default change network group name and filesharing help

How do I change the network name in Vista from workgroup to something else?
i wanna change it from WORKGROUP to MSHOME. Also is there a wizard in Vista
for setting up network sharing etc like XP pro has?

I need help with enabling filesharing so I can connect to my Vista pc from
anything, xbox 360, xbox 1so I can stream movies and music and other pcs not
running vista. I need to be able to access any folder and file. So i should
be able to access c:\ and all the files and folders and e:\ and g:\ which
are backup drives and so on.

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Old April 26th 07, 01:08 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
AMD
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Default change network group name and filesharing help

"AMD" wrote in message
...
How do I change the network name in Vista from workgroup to something
else? i wanna change it from WORKGROUP to MSHOME. Also is there a wizard
in Vista for setting up network sharing etc like XP pro has?

I need help with enabling filesharing so I can connect to my Vista pc from
anything, xbox 360, xbox 1so I can stream movies and music and other pcs
not running vista. I need to be able to access any folder and file. So i
should be able to access c:\ and all the files and folders and e:\ and g:\
which are backup drives and so on.



Got the network group changed in vista now, thanks to Dave.
still looking for help in the filesharing. thanks to all.

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Old April 26th 07, 02:35 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Chuck
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Default change network group name and filesharing help

On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:08:50 -0700, "AMD" wrote:

"AMD" wrote in message
...
How do I change the network name in Vista from workgroup to something
else? i wanna change it from WORKGROUP to MSHOME. Also is there a wizard
in Vista for setting up network sharing etc like XP pro has?

I need help with enabling filesharing so I can connect to my Vista pc from
anything, xbox 360, xbox 1so I can stream movies and music and other pcs
not running vista. I need to be able to access any folder and file. So i
should be able to access c:\ and all the files and folders and e:\ and g:\
which are backup drives and so on.



Got the network group changed in vista now, thanks to Dave.
still looking for help in the filesharing. thanks to all.


File Sharing in Windows Vista is like in Windows XP, except for 2 issues
(improvements).
# Vista has Password Protected Sharing (PPS), which is essentially the same as
Advanced File Sharing (AFS) under Windows XP Pro.
# There is no equivalent to XP Home; you can enable PPS, or disable it, at will.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html

If you want Guest only file sharing, Disable PPS. Then Enable Guest on all
computers, for network access.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Help
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...s-xp.html#Help

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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Old April 26th 07, 02:49 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
AMD
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Default change network group name and filesharing help

"Chuck" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:08:50 -0700, "AMD" wrote:

"AMD" wrote in message
...
How do I change the network name in Vista from workgroup to something
else? i wanna change it from WORKGROUP to MSHOME. Also is there a wizard
in Vista for setting up network sharing etc like XP pro has?

I need help with enabling filesharing so I can connect to my Vista pc
from
anything, xbox 360, xbox 1so I can stream movies and music and other pcs
not running vista. I need to be able to access any folder and file. So i
should be able to access c:\ and all the files and folders and e:\ and
g:\
which are backup drives and so on.



Got the network group changed in vista now, thanks to Dave.
still looking for help in the filesharing. thanks to all.


File Sharing in Windows Vista is like in Windows XP, except for 2 issues
(improvements).
# Vista has Password Protected Sharing (PPS), which is essentially the
same as
Advanced File Sharing (AFS) under Windows XP Pro.
# There is no equivalent to XP Home; you can enable PPS, or disable it, at
will.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html

If you want Guest only file sharing, Disable PPS. Then Enable Guest on
all
computers, for network access.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Help
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...s-xp.html#Help

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.



Thanks Chuck. I'm trying to connect to the vista pc from my xbox1 so I can
stream music and video. The xbox is browsing the lan ok and it sees both my
xphome pc and vista pc on MSHOME as the group name. It works fine connecting
to and browsing/streaming media from the xphome pc. if i try to connect to
the vista pc nothing at all happens. it sees the vista pc, but nothing
happens at all when i click on it to go in to my vista pc.

the vista pc filesharing is on and i have shared the hard drives on the
vista pc too. i right click and click sharing. i enable sharing in there on
each drive and even have tried folders. nothing happens though. i even gave
full permissions to everyone and added my own user account in there with
full permission too. in networking and sharing control panel in vista i have
password needed enabled.
my Network and sharing control panel is as follows.

1: network discovery on
2: file sharing on
3: public folder sharing on (password required)
4: printer sharing off. don't care. no printers connected.
5: password protected sharing on
6: media sharing on

to share folders and drives this is how i do it.

right click on E drive. it's a 160gb drive. internal.
chose sharing from the right click menu
click on advanced sharing
share this folder is checked as enabled
click permissions
click allow for full control.
Everyone is in the Group or user names above.
click the add button
click advance
click find now
click my own user account Joe
click ok
click ok
click the allow button for full control
click apply then ok in advanced sharing window
local disk e properties is saying e:\ shared

i can't connect to this.
in the xp pc it's set the same for that pc yet i can connect fine to it.


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Old April 26th 07, 03:55 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
AMD
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Default change network group name and filesharing help

"Chuck" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 19:49:41 -0700, "AMD" wrote:

"Chuck" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:08:50 -0700, "AMD" wrote:

"AMD" wrote in message
.. .
How do I change the network name in Vista from workgroup to something
else? i wanna change it from WORKGROUP to MSHOME. Also is there a
wizard
in Vista for setting up network sharing etc like XP pro has?

I need help with enabling filesharing so I can connect to my Vista pc
from
anything, xbox 360, xbox 1so I can stream movies and music and other
pcs
not running vista. I need to be able to access any folder and file. So
i
should be able to access c:\ and all the files and folders and e:\ and
g:\
which are backup drives and so on.


Got the network group changed in vista now, thanks to Dave.
still looking for help in the filesharing. thanks to all.

File Sharing in Windows Vista is like in Windows XP, except for 2 issues
(improvements).
# Vista has Password Protected Sharing (PPS), which is essentially the
same as
Advanced File Sharing (AFS) under Windows XP Pro.
# There is no equivalent to XP Home; you can enable PPS, or disable it,
at
will.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html

If you want Guest only file sharing, Disable PPS. Then Enable Guest on
all
computers, for network access.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Help
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...s-xp.html#Help


Thanks Chuck. I'm trying to connect to the vista pc from my xbox1 so I can
stream music and video. The xbox is browsing the lan ok and it sees both
my
xphome pc and vista pc on MSHOME as the group name. It works fine
connecting
to and browsing/streaming media from the xphome pc. if i try to connect to
the vista pc nothing at all happens. it sees the vista pc, but nothing
happens at all when i click on it to go in to my vista pc.

the vista pc filesharing is on and i have shared the hard drives on the
vista pc too. i right click and click sharing. i enable sharing in there
on
each drive and even have tried folders. nothing happens though. i even
gave
full permissions to everyone and added my own user account in there with
full permission too. in networking and sharing control panel in vista i
have
password needed enabled.
my Network and sharing control panel is as follows.

1: network discovery on
2: file sharing on
3: public folder sharing on (password required)
4: printer sharing off. don't care. no printers connected.
5: password protected sharing on
6: media sharing on

to share folders and drives this is how i do it.

right click on E drive. it's a 160gb drive. internal.
chose sharing from the right click menu
click on advanced sharing
share this folder is checked as enabled
click permissions
click allow for full control.
Everyone is in the Group or user names above.
click the add button
click advance
click find now
click my own user account Joe
click ok
click ok
click the allow button for full control
click apply then ok in advanced sharing window
local disk e properties is saying e:\ shared

i can't connect to this.
in the xp pc it's set the same for that pc yet i can connect fine to it.


You didn't mention the Network Location Type.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx#EED
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net...ta_fp.mspx#EED

Also, Enable NetBT on all computers.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...ver-tcpip.html

And check name resolution.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/address-resolution-on-lan.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...on-on-lan.html

Make sure that there are no third party personal firewalls. What
antivirus /
antitrojan products do you have?
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ther-help.html

And you listed,in detail, what shares are setup with permissions to what
accounts (local accounts). That's the NTFS permissioning. Separate from
NTFS
Permissions is activation of the accounts, for network access.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Help
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...s-xp.html#Help

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.



it's private.
not running any virus or firewall cept windows firewall.
don't need to enable netbt as it isn't on the xbox.
per yer suggestion i think. i enabled net bios tho on tcp v4 in wins.

nothing works so far still.
xbox sees the vista, but won't go anywhere. connecting to xp home pc it's
fine.


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Old April 26th 07, 04:39 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Chuck
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Default change network group name and filesharing help

On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 19:49:41 -0700, "AMD" wrote:

"Chuck" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:08:50 -0700, "AMD" wrote:

"AMD" wrote in message
...
How do I change the network name in Vista from workgroup to something
else? i wanna change it from WORKGROUP to MSHOME. Also is there a wizard
in Vista for setting up network sharing etc like XP pro has?

I need help with enabling filesharing so I can connect to my Vista pc
from
anything, xbox 360, xbox 1so I can stream movies and music and other pcs
not running vista. I need to be able to access any folder and file. So i
should be able to access c:\ and all the files and folders and e:\ and
g:\
which are backup drives and so on.


Got the network group changed in vista now, thanks to Dave.
still looking for help in the filesharing. thanks to all.


File Sharing in Windows Vista is like in Windows XP, except for 2 issues
(improvements).
# Vista has Password Protected Sharing (PPS), which is essentially the
same as
Advanced File Sharing (AFS) under Windows XP Pro.
# There is no equivalent to XP Home; you can enable PPS, or disable it, at
will.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html

If you want Guest only file sharing, Disable PPS. Then Enable Guest on
all
computers, for network access.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Help
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...s-xp.html#Help

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.



Thanks Chuck. I'm trying to connect to the vista pc from my xbox1 so I can
stream music and video. The xbox is browsing the lan ok and it sees both my
xphome pc and vista pc on MSHOME as the group name. It works fine connecting
to and browsing/streaming media from the xphome pc. if i try to connect to
the vista pc nothing at all happens. it sees the vista pc, but nothing
happens at all when i click on it to go in to my vista pc.

the vista pc filesharing is on and i have shared the hard drives on the
vista pc too. i right click and click sharing. i enable sharing in there on
each drive and even have tried folders. nothing happens though. i even gave
full permissions to everyone and added my own user account in there with
full permission too. in networking and sharing control panel in vista i have
password needed enabled.
my Network and sharing control panel is as follows.

1: network discovery on
2: file sharing on
3: public folder sharing on (password required)
4: printer sharing off. don't care. no printers connected.
5: password protected sharing on
6: media sharing on

to share folders and drives this is how i do it.

right click on E drive. it's a 160gb drive. internal.
chose sharing from the right click menu
click on advanced sharing
share this folder is checked as enabled
click permissions
click allow for full control.
Everyone is in the Group or user names above.
click the add button
click advance
click find now
click my own user account Joe
click ok
click ok
click the allow button for full control
click apply then ok in advanced sharing window
local disk e properties is saying e:\ shared

i can't connect to this.
in the xp pc it's set the same for that pc yet i can connect fine to it.


You didn't mention the Network Location Type.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx#EED
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net...ta_fp.mspx#EED

Also, Enable NetBT on all computers.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...ver-tcpip.html

Make sure that there are no third party personal firewalls. What antivirus /
antitrojan products do you have?
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ther-help.html

And you listed,in detail, what shares are setup with permissions to what
accounts (local accounts). That's the NTFS permissioning. Separate from NTFS
Permissions is activation of the accounts, for network access.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Help
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...s-xp.html#Help

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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Old April 26th 07, 04:42 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Chuck
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Posts: 300
Default change network group name and filesharing help

On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 19:49:41 -0700, "AMD" wrote:

"Chuck" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:08:50 -0700, "AMD" wrote:

"AMD" wrote in message
...
How do I change the network name in Vista from workgroup to something
else? i wanna change it from WORKGROUP to MSHOME. Also is there a wizard
in Vista for setting up network sharing etc like XP pro has?

I need help with enabling filesharing so I can connect to my Vista pc
from
anything, xbox 360, xbox 1so I can stream movies and music and other pcs
not running vista. I need to be able to access any folder and file. So i
should be able to access c:\ and all the files and folders and e:\ and
g:\
which are backup drives and so on.


Got the network group changed in vista now, thanks to Dave.
still looking for help in the filesharing. thanks to all.


File Sharing in Windows Vista is like in Windows XP, except for 2 issues
(improvements).
# Vista has Password Protected Sharing (PPS), which is essentially the
same as
Advanced File Sharing (AFS) under Windows XP Pro.
# There is no equivalent to XP Home; you can enable PPS, or disable it, at
will.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html

If you want Guest only file sharing, Disable PPS. Then Enable Guest on
all
computers, for network access.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Help
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...s-xp.html#Help


Thanks Chuck. I'm trying to connect to the vista pc from my xbox1 so I can
stream music and video. The xbox is browsing the lan ok and it sees both my
xphome pc and vista pc on MSHOME as the group name. It works fine connecting
to and browsing/streaming media from the xphome pc. if i try to connect to
the vista pc nothing at all happens. it sees the vista pc, but nothing
happens at all when i click on it to go in to my vista pc.

the vista pc filesharing is on and i have shared the hard drives on the
vista pc too. i right click and click sharing. i enable sharing in there on
each drive and even have tried folders. nothing happens though. i even gave
full permissions to everyone and added my own user account in there with
full permission too. in networking and sharing control panel in vista i have
password needed enabled.
my Network and sharing control panel is as follows.

1: network discovery on
2: file sharing on
3: public folder sharing on (password required)
4: printer sharing off. don't care. no printers connected.
5: password protected sharing on
6: media sharing on

to share folders and drives this is how i do it.

right click on E drive. it's a 160gb drive. internal.
chose sharing from the right click menu
click on advanced sharing
share this folder is checked as enabled
click permissions
click allow for full control.
Everyone is in the Group or user names above.
click the add button
click advance
click find now
click my own user account Joe
click ok
click ok
click the allow button for full control
click apply then ok in advanced sharing window
local disk e properties is saying e:\ shared

i can't connect to this.
in the xp pc it's set the same for that pc yet i can connect fine to it.


You didn't mention the Network Location Type.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx#EED
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net...ta_fp.mspx#EED

Also, Enable NetBT on all computers.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...ver-tcpip.html

And check name resolution.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/address-resolution-on-lan.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...on-on-lan.html

Make sure that there are no third party personal firewalls. What antivirus /
antitrojan products do you have?
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ther-help.html

And you listed,in detail, what shares are setup with permissions to what
accounts (local accounts). That's the NTFS permissioning. Separate from NTFS
Permissions is activation of the accounts, for network access.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Help
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...s-xp.html#Help

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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Old April 26th 07, 05:23 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
AMD
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Posts: 87
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"Chuck" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:55:47 -0700, "AMD" wrote:

"Chuck" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 19:49:41 -0700, "AMD" wrote:

"Chuck" wrote in message
m...
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:08:50 -0700, "AMD" wrote:

"AMD" wrote in message
.. .
How do I change the network name in Vista from workgroup to
something
else? i wanna change it from WORKGROUP to MSHOME. Also is there a
wizard
in Vista for setting up network sharing etc like XP pro has?

I need help with enabling filesharing so I can connect to my Vista
pc
from
anything, xbox 360, xbox 1so I can stream movies and music and other
pcs
not running vista. I need to be able to access any folder and file.
So
i
should be able to access c:\ and all the files and folders and e:\
and
g:\
which are backup drives and so on.


Got the network group changed in vista now, thanks to Dave.
still looking for help in the filesharing. thanks to all.

File Sharing in Windows Vista is like in Windows XP, except for 2
issues
(improvements).
# Vista has Password Protected Sharing (PPS), which is essentially the
same as
Advanced File Sharing (AFS) under Windows XP Pro.
# There is no equivalent to XP Home; you can enable PPS, or disable
it,
at
will.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html

If you want Guest only file sharing, Disable PPS. Then Enable Guest
on
all
computers, for network access.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Help
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...s-xp.html#Help

Thanks Chuck. I'm trying to connect to the vista pc from my xbox1 so I
can
stream music and video. The xbox is browsing the lan ok and it sees both
my
xphome pc and vista pc on MSHOME as the group name. It works fine
connecting
to and browsing/streaming media from the xphome pc. if i try to connect
to
the vista pc nothing at all happens. it sees the vista pc, but nothing
happens at all when i click on it to go in to my vista pc.

the vista pc filesharing is on and i have shared the hard drives on the
vista pc too. i right click and click sharing. i enable sharing in there
on
each drive and even have tried folders. nothing happens though. i even
gave
full permissions to everyone and added my own user account in there with
full permission too. in networking and sharing control panel in vista i
have
password needed enabled.
my Network and sharing control panel is as follows.

1: network discovery on
2: file sharing on
3: public folder sharing on (password required)
4: printer sharing off. don't care. no printers connected.
5: password protected sharing on
6: media sharing on

to share folders and drives this is how i do it.

right click on E drive. it's a 160gb drive. internal.
chose sharing from the right click menu
click on advanced sharing
share this folder is checked as enabled
click permissions
click allow for full control.
Everyone is in the Group or user names above.
click the add button
click advance
click find now
click my own user account Joe
click ok
click ok
click the allow button for full control
click apply then ok in advanced sharing window
local disk e properties is saying e:\ shared

i can't connect to this.
in the xp pc it's set the same for that pc yet i can connect fine to it.

You didn't mention the Network Location Type.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx#EED
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net...ta_fp.mspx#EED

Also, Enable NetBT on all computers.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...ver-tcpip.html

And check name resolution.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/address-resolution-on-lan.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...on-on-lan.html

Make sure that there are no third party personal firewalls. What
antivirus /
antitrojan products do you have?
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ther-help.html

And you listed,in detail, what shares are setup with permissions to what
accounts (local accounts). That's the NTFS permissioning. Separate
from
NTFS
Permissions is activation of the accounts, for network access.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Help
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...s-xp.html#Help


it's private.
not running any virus or firewall cept windows firewall.
don't need to enable netbt as it isn't on the xbox.
per yer suggestion i think. i enabled net bios tho on tcp v4 in wins.

nothing works so far still.
xbox sees the vista, but won't go anywhere. connecting to xp home pc it's
fine.


OK, lets start enumerating the network.

You have 3 computers.
a) Vista.
b) Xbox.
c) XP HOme.

1) Can A connect to B?
2) Can A connect to C?
3) Can B connect to A?
4) Can B connect to C?
5) Can C connect to A?
6) Can C connect to B?

If "No" is appropriate, please elaborate.

And hoping that you have a standard 102 key keyboard, see if you can spot
the
long key just above "Ctrl". The "Shift" key. Does it work on your
keyboard?

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.



Are you mentioning the shift key because I don't have capital letters maybe
in my sentances? haha.

Vista can connect fine to pc running xp. Vista can connect fine to xbox
using http and ftp. Xp pc can connect fine to Vista pc. xbox can't connect
to vista pc. it sees it, but won't actually get past seeing it. xbox will
connect fine to xp pc. xp pc connect fine to xbox. the only issue is xbox to
vista.

  #9 (permalink)  
Old April 26th 07, 05:57 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Chuck
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Posts: 300
Default change network group name and filesharing help

On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:55:47 -0700, "AMD" wrote:

"Chuck" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 19:49:41 -0700, "AMD" wrote:

"Chuck" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:08:50 -0700, "AMD" wrote:

"AMD" wrote in message
. ..
How do I change the network name in Vista from workgroup to something
else? i wanna change it from WORKGROUP to MSHOME. Also is there a
wizard
in Vista for setting up network sharing etc like XP pro has?

I need help with enabling filesharing so I can connect to my Vista pc
from
anything, xbox 360, xbox 1so I can stream movies and music and other
pcs
not running vista. I need to be able to access any folder and file. So
i
should be able to access c:\ and all the files and folders and e:\ and
g:\
which are backup drives and so on.


Got the network group changed in vista now, thanks to Dave.
still looking for help in the filesharing. thanks to all.

File Sharing in Windows Vista is like in Windows XP, except for 2 issues
(improvements).
# Vista has Password Protected Sharing (PPS), which is essentially the
same as
Advanced File Sharing (AFS) under Windows XP Pro.
# There is no equivalent to XP Home; you can enable PPS, or disable it,
at
will.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html

If you want Guest only file sharing, Disable PPS. Then Enable Guest on
all
computers, for network access.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Help
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...s-xp.html#Help


Thanks Chuck. I'm trying to connect to the vista pc from my xbox1 so I can
stream music and video. The xbox is browsing the lan ok and it sees both
my
xphome pc and vista pc on MSHOME as the group name. It works fine
connecting
to and browsing/streaming media from the xphome pc. if i try to connect to
the vista pc nothing at all happens. it sees the vista pc, but nothing
happens at all when i click on it to go in to my vista pc.

the vista pc filesharing is on and i have shared the hard drives on the
vista pc too. i right click and click sharing. i enable sharing in there
on
each drive and even have tried folders. nothing happens though. i even
gave
full permissions to everyone and added my own user account in there with
full permission too. in networking and sharing control panel in vista i
have
password needed enabled.
my Network and sharing control panel is as follows.

1: network discovery on
2: file sharing on
3: public folder sharing on (password required)
4: printer sharing off. don't care. no printers connected.
5: password protected sharing on
6: media sharing on

to share folders and drives this is how i do it.

right click on E drive. it's a 160gb drive. internal.
chose sharing from the right click menu
click on advanced sharing
share this folder is checked as enabled
click permissions
click allow for full control.
Everyone is in the Group or user names above.
click the add button
click advance
click find now
click my own user account Joe
click ok
click ok
click the allow button for full control
click apply then ok in advanced sharing window
local disk e properties is saying e:\ shared

i can't connect to this.
in the xp pc it's set the same for that pc yet i can connect fine to it.


You didn't mention the Network Location Type.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx#EED
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net...ta_fp.mspx#EED

Also, Enable NetBT on all computers.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...ver-tcpip.html

And check name resolution.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/address-resolution-on-lan.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...on-on-lan.html

Make sure that there are no third party personal firewalls. What
antivirus /
antitrojan products do you have?
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ther-help.html

And you listed,in detail, what shares are setup with permissions to what
accounts (local accounts). That's the NTFS permissioning. Separate from
NTFS
Permissions is activation of the accounts, for network access.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Help
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...s-xp.html#Help


it's private.
not running any virus or firewall cept windows firewall.
don't need to enable netbt as it isn't on the xbox.
per yer suggestion i think. i enabled net bios tho on tcp v4 in wins.

nothing works so far still.
xbox sees the vista, but won't go anywhere. connecting to xp home pc it's
fine.


OK, lets start enumerating the network.

You have 3 computers.
a) Vista.
b) Xbox.
c) XP HOme.

1) Can A connect to B?
2) Can A connect to C?
3) Can B connect to A?
4) Can B connect to C?
5) Can C connect to A?
6) Can C connect to B?

If "No" is appropriate, please elaborate.

And hoping that you have a standard 102 key keyboard, see if you can spot the
long key just above "Ctrl". The "Shift" key. Does it work on your keyboard?

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
  #10 (permalink)  
Old April 26th 07, 07:02 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
AMD
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Posts: 87
Default change network group name and filesharing help

"Chuck" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 22:23:01 -0700, "AMD" wrote:

"Chuck" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:55:47 -0700, "AMD" wrote:

"Chuck" wrote in message
m...
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 19:49:41 -0700, "AMD" wrote:

"Chuck" wrote in message
news:ij303354f2j44q534hmes7s6se2b6lnf3p@4ax. com...
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:08:50 -0700, "AMD" wrote:

"AMD" wrote in message
...
How do I change the network name in Vista from workgroup to
something
else? i wanna change it from WORKGROUP to MSHOME. Also is there a
wizard
in Vista for setting up network sharing etc like XP pro has?

I need help with enabling filesharing so I can connect to my Vista
pc
from
anything, xbox 360, xbox 1so I can stream movies and music and
other
pcs
not running vista. I need to be able to access any folder and
file.
So
i
should be able to access c:\ and all the files and folders and e:\
and
g:\
which are backup drives and so on.


Got the network group changed in vista now, thanks to Dave.
still looking for help in the filesharing. thanks to all.

File Sharing in Windows Vista is like in Windows XP, except for 2
issues
(improvements).
# Vista has Password Protected Sharing (PPS), which is essentially
the
same as
Advanced File Sharing (AFS) under Windows XP Pro.
# There is no equivalent to XP Home; you can enable PPS, or disable
it,
at
will.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html

If you want Guest only file sharing, Disable PPS. Then Enable Guest
on
all
computers, for network access.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Help
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...s-xp.html#Help

Thanks Chuck. I'm trying to connect to the vista pc from my xbox1 so I
can
stream music and video. The xbox is browsing the lan ok and it sees
both
my
xphome pc and vista pc on MSHOME as the group name. It works fine
connecting
to and browsing/streaming media from the xphome pc. if i try to
connect
to
the vista pc nothing at all happens. it sees the vista pc, but nothing
happens at all when i click on it to go in to my vista pc.

the vista pc filesharing is on and i have shared the hard drives on
the
vista pc too. i right click and click sharing. i enable sharing in
there
on
each drive and even have tried folders. nothing happens though. i even
gave
full permissions to everyone and added my own user account in there
with
full permission too. in networking and sharing control panel in vista
i
have
password needed enabled.
my Network and sharing control panel is as follows.

1: network discovery on
2: file sharing on
3: public folder sharing on (password required)
4: printer sharing off. don't care. no printers connected.
5: password protected sharing on
6: media sharing on

to share folders and drives this is how i do it.

right click on E drive. it's a 160gb drive. internal.
chose sharing from the right click menu
click on advanced sharing
share this folder is checked as enabled
click permissions
click allow for full control.
Everyone is in the Group or user names above.
click the add button
click advance
click find now
click my own user account Joe
click ok
click ok
click the allow button for full control
click apply then ok in advanced sharing window
local disk e properties is saying e:\ shared

i can't connect to this.
in the xp pc it's set the same for that pc yet i can connect fine to
it.

You didn't mention the Network Location Type.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx#EED
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net...ta_fp.mspx#EED

Also, Enable NetBT on all computers.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/netbios-over-tcpip.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...ver-tcpip.html

And check name resolution.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/address-resolution-on-lan.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...on-on-lan.html

Make sure that there are no third party personal firewalls. What
antivirus /
antitrojan products do you have?
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ther-help.html

And you listed,in detail, what shares are setup with permissions to
what
accounts (local accounts). That's the NTFS permissioning. Separate
from
NTFS
Permissions is activation of the accounts, for network access.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Help
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...s-xp.html#Help

it's private.
not running any virus or firewall cept windows firewall.
don't need to enable netbt as it isn't on the xbox.
per yer suggestion i think. i enabled net bios tho on tcp v4 in wins.

nothing works so far still.
xbox sees the vista, but won't go anywhere. connecting to xp home pc
it's
fine.

OK, lets start enumerating the network.

You have 3 computers.
a) Vista.
b) Xbox.
c) XP HOme.

1) Can A connect to B?
2) Can A connect to C?
3) Can B connect to A?
4) Can B connect to C?
5) Can C connect to A?
6) Can C connect to B?

If "No" is appropriate, please elaborate.

And hoping that you have a standard 102 key keyboard, see if you can
spot
the
long key just above "Ctrl". The "Shift" key. Does it work on your
keyboard?


Are you mentioning the shift key because I don't have capital letters
maybe
in my sentances? haha.

Vista can connect fine to pc running xp. Vista can connect fine to xbox
using http and ftp. Xp pc can connect fine to Vista pc. xbox can't connect
to vista pc. it sees it, but won't actually get past seeing it. xbox will
connect fine to xp pc. xp pc connect fine to xbox. the only issue is xbox
to
vista.



OK, we have a winner. Maybe.

Above, you say
don't need to enable netbt as it isn't on the xbox.

And immediately above
xbox can't connect to vista pc. it sees it, but won't actually get past
seeing it.
the only issue is xbox to vista.


Read about IP based networking.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...ing-using.html

And make the NetBT setting (Enabled / Disabled) consistent.

And yes, your Shift key seems to be flaky. This is a technical help
forum, and
many terms are much easier to see when you capitalise. NetBT for instance
is
easier to see than netbt.

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.



Chuck, thanks. Well, there's nothing to set on the xbox. Also I have
disabled and enabled NetBios in vista and it makes no difference. Xp to
Vista works fine though no matter what. xbox to XP works fine too. Just no
xp to vista for me.

Now, if I enable media sharing on Vista then xbox can connect to that
folder. The folders that are in the media sharing setup/monitoring. the way
you connect to the media sharing from xbox is through upnp servers inside
the xbox. Meaning in the xbox media center there is an option called UPnP
Media Servers (Auto Discover). That is the only way to connect to the media
sharing on Vista. The major problem here is that the music is not listed
correctly so they are not played in order.

Browsing the lan normally though through the MSHOME workgroup doesn't
connect past the I see Vista screen.

 




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