trying to connect my new laptop o office network where the others are xp with
no success for many days, frustrated.

I can ping every xp pc on the network but I cannot see them in network and
sharing windows. after loading network discovery responder to one of the pcs
now I can see it in detailed network map but I still do not have an access to
it and to its files.

Followed instructions, clues given in previous discussions in the forum none
is helpful.
I will appreciate if anyone can spread a light into this problem.

Ed,

The networking in Vista Home Basic and Home Premium is not designed to work
with Domains (if that is what the office is).

John Baker

thx for reply but it is not a domain.

"JRB Associates" wrote:

Ed,

The networking in Vista Home Basic and Home Premium is not designed to work
with Domains (if that is what the office is).

John Baker

Vista defaults to a different work group than XP--make sure all the machines
are in the same work group... and see if that works...


"ed" wrote in message
...
trying to connect my new laptop o office network where the others are xp
with
no success for many days, frustrated.

I can ping every xp pc on the network but I cannot see them in network and
sharing windows. after loading network discovery responder to one of the
pcs
now I can see it in detailed network map but I still do not have an access
to
it and to its files.

Followed instructions, clues given in previous discussions in the forum
none
is helpful.
I will appreciate if anyone can spread a light into this problem.

On Wed, 2 May 2007 06:24:02 -0700, ed wrote:

trying to connect my new laptop o office network where the others are xp with
no success for many days, frustrated.

I can ping every xp pc on the network but I cannot see them in network and
sharing windows. after loading network discovery responder to one of the pcs
now I can see it in detailed network map but I still do not have an access to
it and to its files.

Followed instructions, clues given in previous discussions in the forum none
is helpful.
I will appreciate if anyone can spread a light into this problem.

Ed,

If your LAN is workgroup based, you'll have issues with Windows Vista that have
been known with Windows XP.
* Put all computers in the same workgroup.
* Make sure that NetBT is Enabled consistently.
* Make sure that all personal firewalls are properly setup.
* Make sure that name resolution is consistently setup.
For details about these issues:
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

All are in the same workgroup

"Marc" wrote:

Vista defaults to a different work group than XP--make sure all the machines
are in the same work group... and see if that works...


"ed" wrote in message
...
trying to connect my new laptop o office network where the others are xp
with
no success for many days, frustrated.

I can ping every xp pc on the network but I cannot see them in network and
sharing windows. after loading network discovery responder to one of the
pcs
now I can see it in detailed network map but I still do not have an access
to
it and to its files.

Followed instructions, clues given in previous discussions in the forum
none
is helpful.
I will appreciate if anyone can spread a light into this problem.

Chuck thanks for your time..
I went through blogspot you provided and did whatever possible but I still
have the same problem. Here is what I did:
1. turned DHCP broadcast flagg off
2.network type is "private"
3.file sharing is "on"
4.network discovery is "on"
5.PPS is "off"
6.NetBT is enabled
7.windows firewall is "on" and properly configured
8.file printer sharing has been enabled but after highlighting it there is
no edit option in win firewall settings/exceptions
9.took out antivirus program
10.can still ping devices on the network, can see one computer in detailed
network map after loading LLTD responder that is all others are invisible and
there is no access to visible one
11.in ipconfig /all command ı see node type as Hybrid but ı cannot change it
to Broadcast since HKey path given does not match with regedit available.
Any suggestion???


"Chuck" wrote:

On Wed, 2 May 2007 06:24:02 -0700, ed wrote:

trying to connect my new laptop o office network where the others are xp with
no success for many days, frustrated.

I can ping every xp pc on the network but I cannot see them in network and
sharing windows. after loading network discovery responder to one of the pcs
now I can see it in detailed network map but I still do not have an access to
it and to its files.

Followed instructions, clues given in previous discussions in the forum none
is helpful.
I will appreciate if anyone can spread a light into this problem.

Ed,

If your LAN is workgroup based, you'll have issues with Windows Vista that have
been known with Windows XP.
* Put all computers in the same workgroup.
* Make sure that NetBT is Enabled consistently.
* Make sure that all personal firewalls are properly setup.
* Make sure that name resolution is consistently setup.
For details about these issues:
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

On Thu, 3 May 2007 07:14:00 -0700, ed wrote:

"Chuck" wrote:

On Wed, 2 May 2007 06:24:02 -0700, ed wrote:

trying to connect my new laptop o office network where the others are xp with
no success for many days, frustrated.

I can ping every xp pc on the network but I cannot see them in network and
sharing windows. after loading network discovery responder to one of the pcs
now I can see it in detailed network map but I still do not have an access to
it and to its files.

Followed instructions, clues given in previous discussions in the forum none
is helpful.
I will appreciate if anyone can spread a light into this problem.

Ed,

If your LAN is workgroup based, you'll have issues with Windows Vista that have
been known with Windows XP.
* Put all computers in the same workgroup.
* Make sure that NetBT is Enabled consistently.
* Make sure that all personal firewalls are properly setup.
* Make sure that name resolution is consistently setup.
For details about these issues:
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html

Chuck thanks for your time..
I went through blogspot you provided and did whatever possible but I still
have the same problem. Here is what I did:
1. turned DHCP broadcast flagg off
2.network type is "private"
3.file sharing is "on"
4.network discovery is "on"
5.PPS is "off"
6.NetBT is enabled
7.windows firewall is "on" and properly configured
8.file printer sharing has been enabled but after highlighting it there is
no edit option in win firewall settings/exceptions
9.took out antivirus program
10.can still ping devices on the network, can see one computer in detailed
network map after loading LLTD responder that is all others are invisible and
there is no access to visible one
11.in ipconfig /all command ? see node type as Hybrid but ? cannot change it
to Broadcast since HKey path given does not match with regedit available.
Any suggestion???

Ed,

The original report said that you cannot "see" the other computers in Network
and Sharing (aka "Network Neighborhood" in XP). There are two known causes for
this:
1) Blocked browser SMBs from the invisible computers, to the master browser.
2) Master browser conflict.

Are you connecting to a domain, or a workgroup? Is the problem computer in the
same workgroup, or in a workgroup with the same name as the domain (if the
network is domain based)?

Look at "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all" from the problem computer, and
from 2 other computers, and diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked
articles, and follow instructions precisely (download browstat!):
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp

Read about the master browser in general:
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...lways-see.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

"Chuck" wrote:

On Thu, 3 May 2007 07:14:00 -0700, ed wrote:

"Chuck" wrote:

On Wed, 2 May 2007 06:24:02 -0700, ed wrote:

trying to connect my new laptop o office network where the others are xp with
no success for many days, frustrated.

I can ping every xp pc on the network but I cannot see them in network and
sharing windows. after loading network discovery responder to one of the pcs
now I can see it in detailed network map but I still do not have an access to
it and to its files.

Followed instructions, clues given in previous discussions in the forum none
is helpful.
I will appreciate if anyone can spread a light into this problem.

Ed,

If your LAN is workgroup based, you'll have issues with Windows Vista that have
been known with Windows XP.
* Put all computers in the same workgroup.
* Make sure that NetBT is Enabled consistently.
* Make sure that all personal firewalls are properly setup.
* Make sure that name resolution is consistently setup.
For details about these issues:
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html

Chuck thanks for your time..
I went through blogspot you provided and did whatever possible but I still
have the same problem. Here is what I did:
1. turned DHCP broadcast flagg off
2.network type is "private"
3.file sharing is "on"
4.network discovery is "on"
5.PPS is "off"
6.NetBT is enabled
7.windows firewall is "on" and properly configured
8.file printer sharing has been enabled but after highlighting it there is
no edit option in win firewall settings/exceptions
9.took out antivirus program
10.can still ping devices on the network, can see one computer in detailed
network map after loading LLTD responder that is all others are invisible and
there is no access to visible one
11.in ipconfig /all command ? see node type as Hybrid but ? cannot change it
to Broadcast since HKey path given does not match with regedit available.
Any suggestion???

Ed,

The original report said that you cannot "see" the other computers in Network
and Sharing (aka "Network Neighborhood" in XP). There are two known causes for
this:
1) Blocked browser SMBs from the invisible computers, to the master browser.
2) Master browser conflict.

Are you connecting to a domain, or a workgroup? Is the problem computer in the
same workgroup, or in a workgroup with the same name as the domain (if the
network is domain based)?

Look at "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all" from the problem computer, and
from 2 other computers, and diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked
articles, and follow instructions precisely (download browstat!):
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp

Read about the master browser in general:
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...lways-see.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

here is browstat and ipconfig info of my laptop. pls tell me something...
C:\Users\toshiba\Downloads\browstatbrowstat status


Status for domain OFFICE on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{0978136B-A6BB-4B09-8D
A4-CC4E6B696C1A}
Browsing is NOT active on domain.
Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus.
C:\Users\toshibaipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : toshiba
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network
Con
nection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-D2-5D-D6-A6
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::c470:3dd:a415:9633%10(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.9(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 08 May 2007 13:07:02
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 14 June 2143 20:34:55
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 251664850
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-A0-D1-6A-D7-3D
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::2887:83d:3f57:fdf6%9(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . :
isatap.{5291AF49-A5C9-4154-90AC-597BAF10F
533}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . :
isatap.{0978136B-A6BB-4B09-8DA4-CC4E6B696
C1A}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.2.9%12(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
My note type is "hybrid" while others are "unknown"

On Tue, 8 May 2007 04:15:00 -0700, ed wrote:



"Chuck" wrote:

On Thu, 3 May 2007 07:14:00 -0700, ed wrote:

"Chuck" wrote:

On Wed, 2 May 2007 06:24:02 -0700, ed wrote:

trying to connect my new laptop o office network where the others are xp with
no success for many days, frustrated.

I can ping every xp pc on the network but I cannot see them in network and
sharing windows. after loading network discovery responder to one of the pcs
now I can see it in detailed network map but I still do not have an access to
it and to its files.

Followed instructions, clues given in previous discussions in the forum none
is helpful.
I will appreciate if anyone can spread a light into this problem.

Ed,

If your LAN is workgroup based, you'll have issues with Windows Vista that have
been known with Windows XP.
* Put all computers in the same workgroup.
* Make sure that NetBT is Enabled consistently.
* Make sure that all personal firewalls are properly setup.
* Make sure that name resolution is consistently setup.
For details about these issues:
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html

Chuck thanks for your time..
I went through blogspot you provided and did whatever possible but I still
have the same problem. Here is what I did:
1. turned DHCP broadcast flagg off
2.network type is "private"
3.file sharing is "on"
4.network discovery is "on"
5.PPS is "off"
6.NetBT is enabled
7.windows firewall is "on" and properly configured
8.file printer sharing has been enabled but after highlighting it there is
no edit option in win firewall settings/exceptions
9.took out antivirus program
10.can still ping devices on the network, can see one computer in detailed
network map after loading LLTD responder that is all others are invisible and
there is no access to visible one
11.in ipconfig /all command ? see node type as Hybrid but ? cannot change it
to Broadcast since HKey path given does not match with regedit available.
Any suggestion???

Ed,

The original report said that you cannot "see" the other computers in Network
and Sharing (aka "Network Neighborhood" in XP). There are two known causes for
this:
1) Blocked browser SMBs from the invisible computers, to the master browser.
2) Master browser conflict.

Are you connecting to a domain, or a workgroup? Is the problem computer in the
same workgroup, or in a workgroup with the same name as the domain (if the
network is domain based)?

Look at "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all" from the problem computer, and
from 2 other computers, and diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked
articles, and follow instructions precisely (download browstat!):
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp

Read about the master browser in general:
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...lways-see.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

here is browstat and ipconfig info of my laptop. pls tell me something...
C:\Users\toshiba\Downloads\browstatbrowstat status


Status for domain OFFICE on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{0978136B-A6BB-4B09-8D
A4-CC4E6B696C1A}
Browsing is NOT active on domain.
Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus.
C:\Users\toshibaipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : toshiba
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network
Con
nection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-D2-5D-D6-A6
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::c470:3dd:a415:9633%10(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.9(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 08 May 2007 13:07:02
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 14 June 2143 20:34:55
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 251664850
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-A0-D1-6A-D7-3D
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::2887:83d:3f57:fdf6%9(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . :
isatap.{5291AF49-A5C9-4154-90AC-597BAF10F
533}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . :
isatap.{0978136B-A6BB-4B09-8DA4-CC4E6B696
C1A}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.2.9%12(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
My note type is "hybrid" while others are "unknown"

Node types "hybrid" vs "unknown" are OK.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/address-resolution-on-lan.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...on-on-lan.html

Your problem is with browsing, not name resolution. Here's a symptom.
Status for domain OFFICE on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{0978136B-A6BB-4B09-8D
A4-CC4E6B696C1A}
Browsing is NOT active on domain.
Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus.

This computer isn't getting SMBs from itself, or from other computers.
1) You aren't using NetBT consistently.
2) You have a personal firewall, or other security component, blocking SMBs.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...ing-using.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.