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No Richard, this is a pre-packaged Seagate 500GB USB2 storage drive,
pre-formatted and ready to go out of the box. And again, it was working fine with my machine running both XP and Vista Business for about 2-weeks. I used it to back-up my XP installation before wiping and moving to Vista Business and then moved by documents from there back into my Vista installation after the upgrade. It was working, but now is not working. "Richard Urban" wrote: You installed the drive yourself in an external case? I have had to discard 4 different brands of external cases now as being not compatible with Vista. I now use only Adaptec cases (you know, the ones that cost 4 times the amount that you pay for the no name/little known brands you can get at a computer fair). I have never had any problems with an Adaptec external hard drive case. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! "Bill George" wrote in message ... So what the heck did Vista do to it. This drive was working perfectly (it is brand new) under XP and then under Vista for 1-week. As it is a storage drive it is not like it was getting pounded daily and now all of a sudden it is wiped. What happened? "Richard Urban" wrote: If you are seeing the drive space as unallocated - all partitions are gone. Time to start fresh. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! "Bill George" wrote in message ... Drive partitioned and formatted. Came out of the box that way with XP and then Vista Business recognizing it immediately. Even has data on it from backing-up XP to install Vista. Been using it for a couple of weeks now (not a boot drive obviously), but then I had a problem with my RAID1 array and had to break one of the disks out as an SATA boot drive (worked fine with no loss of bootability or data on that drive) and after doing that the USB drive has had this problem, even after upgrading to Vista Ultimate (from Business). "Richard Urban" wrote: You have to partition and format the drive partitions before it will show up in Explorer and be able to be used. The fact that you have unallocated space tells me that you have not done this yet. A fully partitioned and formatted drive will have NO unallocated space. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! "Bill George" wrote in message ... Vista Ultimate Seagate 500GB USB2 Drive Where you can see the drive: Drive shows-up under disk drives in Device Manager (working). You can see it (sans drive designation (i.e. "D:," etc.)) in the "Safely Remove Hardware" area. You can even see it as an "unallocated" drive in the lower pane of the "Disk Management" utility. Where you can't see the drive: Doesn't appear under "My Computer." Doesn't appear in the upper pane of the "Disk Management" screen where drives are listed by their drive designation. Bottom line, because of the places the drive can't be seen it is not accessible. Need some help badly. Bill |
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On Sat, 5 May 2007 17:11:01 -0700, Bill George
wrote: Vista Ultimate Seagate 500GB USB2 Drive Where you can see the drive: Drive shows-up under disk drives in Device Manager (working). You can see it (sans drive designation (i.e. "D:," etc.)) in the "Safely Remove Hardware" area. You can even see it as an "unallocated" drive in the lower pane of the "Disk Management" utility. Where you can't see the drive: Doesn't appear under "My Computer." Doesn't appear in the upper pane of the "Disk Management" screen where drives are listed by their drive designation. Bottom line, because of the places the drive can't be seen it is not accessible. Need some help badly. Bill Try running a program such as PC INSPECTOR File Recovery http://www.pcinspector.de/file_recovery/uk/welcome.htm or TestDisk http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk. |
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Now I'm getting the information I need (finally). (-:
I have had three different Seagate external drives, the ones that are rectangular and can be stacked, that have had that problem. They come from the factory formatted as fat32. The partition bit, what id's what type of partition is on the drive, gets changed. The drive looks empty. I have been able to get these drives back to working order by using ptedit from a DOS boot floppy. But the problem re-occurs, again and again. I finally just formatted these drives as NTFS and never had another problem with them. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! "Bill George" wrote in message ... No Richard, this is a pre-packaged Seagate 500GB USB2 storage drive, pre-formatted and ready to go out of the box. And again, it was working fine with my machine running both XP and Vista Business for about 2-weeks. I used it to back-up my XP installation before wiping and moving to Vista Business and then moved by documents from there back into my Vista installation after the upgrade. It was working, but now is not working. "Richard Urban" wrote: You installed the drive yourself in an external case? I have had to discard 4 different brands of external cases now as being not compatible with Vista. I now use only Adaptec cases (you know, the ones that cost 4 times the amount that you pay for the no name/little known brands you can get at a computer fair). I have never had any problems with an Adaptec external hard drive case. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! "Bill George" wrote in message ... So what the heck did Vista do to it. This drive was working perfectly (it is brand new) under XP and then under Vista for 1-week. As it is a storage drive it is not like it was getting pounded daily and now all of a sudden it is wiped. What happened? "Richard Urban" wrote: If you are seeing the drive space as unallocated - all partitions are gone. Time to start fresh. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! "Bill George" wrote in message ... Drive partitioned and formatted. Came out of the box that way with XP and then Vista Business recognizing it immediately. Even has data on it from backing-up XP to install Vista. Been using it for a couple of weeks now (not a boot drive obviously), but then I had a problem with my RAID1 array and had to break one of the disks out as an SATA boot drive (worked fine with no loss of bootability or data on that drive) and after doing that the USB drive has had this problem, even after upgrading to Vista Ultimate (from Business). "Richard Urban" wrote: You have to partition and format the drive partitions before it will show up in Explorer and be able to be used. The fact that you have unallocated space tells me that you have not done this yet. A fully partitioned and formatted drive will have NO unallocated space. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! "Bill George" wrote in message ... Vista Ultimate Seagate 500GB USB2 Drive Where you can see the drive: Drive shows-up under disk drives in Device Manager (working). You can see it (sans drive designation (i.e. "D:," etc.)) in the "Safely Remove Hardware" area. You can even see it as an "unallocated" drive in the lower pane of the "Disk Management" utility. Where you can't see the drive: Doesn't appear under "My Computer." Doesn't appear in the upper pane of the "Disk Management" screen where drives are listed by their drive designation. Bottom line, because of the places the drive can't be seen it is not accessible. Need some help badly. Bill |
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Richard, from the instructions I can find "ptedit.exe" seems normally be used
to restore a boot drive. Can you point me to some instructions on how to use it restore my external USB be dirve in this situation? Thanks... "Richard Urban" wrote: Now I'm getting the information I need (finally). (-: I have had three different Seagate external drives, the ones that are rectangular and can be stacked, that have had that problem. They come from the factory formatted as fat32. The partition bit, what id's what type of partition is on the drive, gets changed. The drive looks empty. I have been able to get these drives back to working order by using ptedit from a DOS boot floppy. But the problem re-occurs, again and again. I finally just formatted these drives as NTFS and never had another problem with them. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! "Bill George" wrote in message ... No Richard, this is a pre-packaged Seagate 500GB USB2 storage drive, pre-formatted and ready to go out of the box. And again, it was working fine with my machine running both XP and Vista Business for about 2-weeks. I used it to back-up my XP installation before wiping and moving to Vista Business and then moved by documents from there back into my Vista installation after the upgrade. It was working, but now is not working. "Richard Urban" wrote: You installed the drive yourself in an external case? I have had to discard 4 different brands of external cases now as being not compatible with Vista. I now use only Adaptec cases (you know, the ones that cost 4 times the amount that you pay for the no name/little known brands you can get at a computer fair). I have never had any problems with an Adaptec external hard drive case. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! "Bill George" wrote in message ... So what the heck did Vista do to it. This drive was working perfectly (it is brand new) under XP and then under Vista for 1-week. As it is a storage drive it is not like it was getting pounded daily and now all of a sudden it is wiped. What happened? "Richard Urban" wrote: If you are seeing the drive space as unallocated - all partitions are gone. Time to start fresh. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! "Bill George" wrote in message ... Drive partitioned and formatted. Came out of the box that way with XP and then Vista Business recognizing it immediately. Even has data on it from backing-up XP to install Vista. Been using it for a couple of weeks now (not a boot drive obviously), but then I had a problem with my RAID1 array and had to break one of the disks out as an SATA boot drive (worked fine with no loss of bootability or data on that drive) and after doing that the USB drive has had this problem, even after upgrading to Vista Ultimate (from Business). "Richard Urban" wrote: You have to partition and format the drive partitions before it will show up in Explorer and be able to be used. The fact that you have unallocated space tells me that you have not done this yet. A fully partitioned and formatted drive will have NO unallocated space. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! "Bill George" wrote in message ... Vista Ultimate Seagate 500GB USB2 Drive Where you can see the drive: Drive shows-up under disk drives in Device Manager (working). You can see it (sans drive designation (i.e. "D:," etc.)) in the "Safely Remove Hardware" area. You can even see it as an "unallocated" drive in the lower pane of the "Disk Management" utility. Where you can't see the drive: Doesn't appear under "My Computer." Doesn't appear in the upper pane of the "Disk Management" screen where drives are listed by their drive designation. Bottom line, because of the places the drive can't be seen it is not accessible. Need some help badly. Bill |
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You "may" be right. It is a while since I used it. If you contact me I will
send you the Windows version in a zip file. It is small (under 400k). You have to run it in administrator mode. It will see all the drives you have connected. But then, I am almost certain that the DOS version does also. There is a drop down to choose your drive. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! "Bill George" wrote in message ... Richard, from the instructions I can find "ptedit.exe" seems normally be used to restore a boot drive. Can you point me to some instructions on how to use it restore my external USB be dirve in this situation? Thanks... "Richard Urban" wrote: Now I'm getting the information I need (finally). (-: I have had three different Seagate external drives, the ones that are rectangular and can be stacked, that have had that problem. They come from the factory formatted as fat32. The partition bit, what id's what type of partition is on the drive, gets changed. The drive looks empty. I have been able to get these drives back to working order by using ptedit from a DOS boot floppy. But the problem re-occurs, again and again. I finally just formatted these drives as NTFS and never had another problem with them. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! "Bill George" wrote in message ... No Richard, this is a pre-packaged Seagate 500GB USB2 storage drive, pre-formatted and ready to go out of the box. And again, it was working fine with my machine running both XP and Vista Business for about 2-weeks. I used it to back-up my XP installation before wiping and moving to Vista Business and then moved by documents from there back into my Vista installation after the upgrade. It was working, but now is not working. "Richard Urban" wrote: You installed the drive yourself in an external case? I have had to discard 4 different brands of external cases now as being not compatible with Vista. I now use only Adaptec cases (you know, the ones that cost 4 times the amount that you pay for the no name/little known brands you can get at a computer fair). I have never had any problems with an Adaptec external hard drive case. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! "Bill George" wrote in message ... So what the heck did Vista do to it. This drive was working perfectly (it is brand new) under XP and then under Vista for 1-week. As it is a storage drive it is not like it was getting pounded daily and now all of a sudden it is wiped. What happened? "Richard Urban" wrote: If you are seeing the drive space as unallocated - all partitions are gone. Time to start fresh. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! "Bill George" wrote in message ... Drive partitioned and formatted. Came out of the box that way with XP and then Vista Business recognizing it immediately. Even has data on it from backing-up XP to install Vista. Been using it for a couple of weeks now (not a boot drive obviously), but then I had a problem with my RAID1 array and had to break one of the disks out as an SATA boot drive (worked fine with no loss of bootability or data on that drive) and after doing that the USB drive has had this problem, even after upgrading to Vista Ultimate (from Business). "Richard Urban" wrote: You have to partition and format the drive partitions before it will show up in Explorer and be able to be used. The fact that you have unallocated space tells me that you have not done this yet. A fully partitioned and formatted drive will have NO unallocated space. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! "Bill George" wrote in message ... Vista Ultimate Seagate 500GB USB2 Drive Where you can see the drive: Drive shows-up under disk drives in Device Manager (working). You can see it (sans drive designation (i.e. "D:," etc.)) in the "Safely Remove Hardware" area. You can even see it as an "unallocated" drive in the lower pane of the "Disk Management" utility. Where you can't see the drive: Doesn't appear under "My Computer." Doesn't appear in the upper pane of the "Disk Management" screen where drives are listed by their drive designation. Bottom line, because of the places the drive can't be seen it is not accessible. Need some help badly. Bill |
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Hi Bill,
An identical thing has happened to me I believe. Been usin a freecom USB external drive for a week on Vista, now I plug it in and it shows every where (?) exept as a link off Computer. Makes it unusable! Did you find a solution? Lee "Richard Urban" wrote: You "may" be right. It is a while since I used it. If you contact me I will send you the Windows version in a zip file. It is small (under 400k). You have to run it in administrator mode. It will see all the drives you have connected. But then, I am almost certain that the DOS version does also. There is a drop down to choose your drive. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! "Bill George" wrote in message ... Richard, from the instructions I can find "ptedit.exe" seems normally be used to restore a boot drive. Can you point me to some instructions on how to use it restore my external USB be dirve in this situation? Thanks... "Richard Urban" wrote: Now I'm getting the information I need (finally). (-: I have had three different Seagate external drives, the ones that are rectangular and can be stacked, that have had that problem. They come from the factory formatted as fat32. The partition bit, what id's what type of partition is on the drive, gets changed. The drive looks empty. I have been able to get these drives back to working order by using ptedit from a DOS boot floppy. But the problem re-occurs, again and again. I finally just formatted these drives as NTFS and never had another problem with them. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! "Bill George" wrote in message ... No Richard, this is a pre-packaged Seagate 500GB USB2 storage drive, pre-formatted and ready to go out of the box. And again, it was working fine with my machine running both XP and Vista Business for about 2-weeks. I used it to back-up my XP installation before wiping and moving to Vista Business and then moved by documents from there back into my Vista installation after the upgrade. It was working, but now is not working. "Richard Urban" wrote: You installed the drive yourself in an external case? I have had to discard 4 different brands of external cases now as being not compatible with Vista. I now use only Adaptec cases (you know, the ones that cost 4 times the amount that you pay for the no name/little known brands you can get at a computer fair). I have never had any problems with an Adaptec external hard drive case. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! "Bill George" wrote in message ... So what the heck did Vista do to it. This drive was working perfectly (it is brand new) under XP and then under Vista for 1-week. As it is a storage drive it is not like it was getting pounded daily and now all of a sudden it is wiped. What happened? "Richard Urban" wrote: If you are seeing the drive space as unallocated - all partitions are gone. Time to start fresh. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! "Bill George" wrote in message ... Drive partitioned and formatted. Came out of the box that way with XP and then Vista Business recognizing it immediately. Even has data on it from backing-up XP to install Vista. Been using it for a couple of weeks now (not a boot drive obviously), but then I had a problem with my RAID1 array and had to break one of the disks out as an SATA boot drive (worked fine with no loss of bootability or data on that drive) and after doing that the USB drive has had this problem, even after upgrading to Vista Ultimate (from Business). "Richard Urban" wrote: You have to partition and format the drive partitions before it will show up in Explorer and be able to be used. The fact that you have unallocated space tells me that you have not done this yet. A fully partitioned and formatted drive will have NO unallocated space. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! "Bill George" wrote in message ... Vista Ultimate Seagate 500GB USB2 Drive Where you can see the drive: Drive shows-up under disk drives in Device Manager (working). You can see it (sans drive designation (i.e. "D:," etc.)) in the "Safely Remove Hardware" area. You can even see it as an "unallocated" drive in the lower pane of the "Disk Management" utility. Where you can't see the drive: Doesn't appear under "My Computer." Doesn't appear in the upper pane of the "Disk Management" screen where drives are listed by their drive designation. Bottom line, because of the places the drive can't be seen it is not accessible. Need some help badly. Bill |
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"Lee" wrote: Hi Bill, An identical thing has happened to me I believe. Been usin a freecom USB external drive for a week on Vista, now I plug it in and it shows every where (?) exept as a link off Computer. Makes it unusable! Did you find a solution? Lee "Richard Urban" wrote: You "may" be right. It is a while since I used it. If you contact me I will send you the Windows version in a zip file. It is small (under 400k). You have to run it in administrator mode. It will see all the drives you have connected. But then, I am almost certain that the DOS version does also. There is a drop down to choose your drive. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! "Bill George" wrote in message ... Richard, from the instructions I can find "ptedit.exe" seems normally be used to restore a boot drive. Can you point me to some instructions on how to use it restore my external USB be dirve in this situation? Thanks... "Richard Urban" wrote: Now I'm getting the information I need (finally). (-: I have had three different Seagate external drives, the ones that are rectangular and can be stacked, that have had that problem. They come from the factory formatted as fat32. The partition bit, what id's what type of partition is on the drive, gets changed. The drive looks empty. I have been able to get these drives back to working order by using ptedit from a DOS boot floppy. But the problem re-occurs, again and again. I finally just formatted these drives as NTFS and never had another problem with them. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! "Bill George" wrote in message ... No Richard, this is a pre-packaged Seagate 500GB USB2 storage drive, pre-formatted and ready to go out of the box. And again, it was working fine with my machine running both XP and Vista Business for about 2-weeks. I used it to back-up my XP installation before wiping and moving to Vista Business and then moved by documents from there back into my Vista installation after the upgrade. It was working, but now is not working. "Richard Urban" wrote: You installed the drive yourself in an external case? I have had to discard 4 different brands of external cases now as being not compatible with Vista. I now use only Adaptec cases (you know, the ones that cost 4 times the amount that you pay for the no name/little known brands you can get at a computer fair). I have never had any problems with an Adaptec external hard drive case. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! "Bill George" wrote in message ... So what the heck did Vista do to it. This drive was working perfectly (it is brand new) under XP and then under Vista for 1-week. As it is a storage drive it is not like it was getting pounded daily and now all of a sudden it is wiped. What happened? "Richard Urban" wrote: If you are seeing the drive space as unallocated - all partitions are gone. Time to start fresh. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! "Bill George" wrote in message ... Drive partitioned and formatted. Came out of the box that way with XP and then Vista Business recognizing it immediately. Even has data on it from backing-up XP to install Vista. Been using it for a couple of weeks now (not a boot drive obviously), but then I had a problem with my RAID1 array and had to break one of the disks out as an SATA boot drive (worked fine with no loss of bootability or data on that drive) and after doing that the USB drive has had this problem, even after upgrading to Vista Ultimate (from Business). "Richard Urban" wrote: You have to partition and format the drive partitions before it will show up in Explorer and be able to be used. The fact that you have unallocated space tells me that you have not done this yet. A fully partitioned and formatted drive will have NO unallocated space. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) Quote from George Ankner: If you knew as much as you think you know, You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew! "Bill George" wrote in message ... Vista Ultimate Seagate 500GB USB2 Drive Where you can see the drive: Drive shows-up under disk drives in Device Manager (working). You can see it (sans drive designation (i.e. "D:," etc.)) in the "Safely Remove Hardware" area. You can even see it as an "unallocated" drive in the lower pane of the "Disk Management" utility. Where you can't see the drive: Doesn't appear under "My Computer." Doesn't appear in the upper pane of the "Disk Management" screen where drives are listed by their drive designation. Bottom line, because of the places the drive can't be seen it is not accessible. Need some help badly. Bill |
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