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May 10th 07, 06:12 AM
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LLMNR and network
On Wed, 9 May 2007 21:31:02 -0700, feroz ahmed
wrote: hi what are the protocols that are responsible in vista(IPv6) for a computer to visible in network neighbourhood (Network). Visibility in Network Neighbourhood is a browser issue. The browser uses Server Message Blocks, generally hosted on NetBIOS Over TCP. http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...lways-see.html http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...ing-using.html -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. 
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May 10th 07, 08:33 AM
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we have provided ipv6 support for SMB protocol for a device. all the
operations such as file share,etc are working with ipv6. but still our device is not visible in ipv6 network neighbourhood. where as it is visible in network neighbourhood with ipv4 enabled and ipv6 disabled. when we capture packets between two vista machines, we found some LLMNR packets and a few packets multicasted to ff02::c on to port 3702 has been observed. our device supports LLMNR too. can you tell me what is the new protocol that Microsoft has introduced in ipv6 for a device to visible in network neighbour hood. "Chuck" wrote: On Wed, 9 May 2007 21:31:02 -0700, feroz ahmed wrote: hi what are the protocols that are responsible in vista(IPv6) for a computer to visible in network neighbourhood (Network). Visibility in Network Neighbourhood is a browser issue. The browser uses Server Message Blocks, generally hosted on NetBIOS Over TCP. http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...lways-see.html http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...ing-using.html -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org.
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May 10th 07, 02:55 PM
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On Thu, 10 May 2007 01:33:00 -0700, feroz ahmed
wrote: "Chuck" wrote: On Wed, 9 May 2007 21:31:02 -0700, feroz ahmed wrote: hi what are the protocols that are responsible in vista(IPv6) for a computer to visible in network neighbourhood (Network). Visibility in Network Neighbourhood is a browser issue. The browser uses Server Message Blocks, generally hosted on NetBIOS Over TCP. http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...lways-see.html http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...ing-using.html we have provided ipv6 support for SMB protocol for a device. all the operations such as file share,etc are working with ipv6. but still our device is not visible in ipv6 network neighbourhood. where as it is visible in network neighbourhood with ipv4 enabled and ipv6 disabled. when we capture packets between two vista machines, we found some LLMNR packets and a few packets multicasted to ff02::c on to port 3702 has been observed. our device supports LLMNR too. can you tell me what is the new protocol that Microsoft has introduced in ipv6 for a device to visible in network neighbour hood. Feroz, Here's what I personally know, from reading and experimenting. 1) LLMNR is a name resolution protocol, for IPV4 and IPV6 networks. 2) The browser is an SMB based application, that provides the contents of Network Neighbourhood. 3) Browser SMBs have traditionally run over NetBT over IPV4, directly hosted over IPV4, IPX/SPX, and NetBEUI. Since I don't know who you are (nor who "we" is), nor what your device is, I'll suggest that you read up on IPV6, and see if you can find mention of SMBs over IPV6. Also look for mention of broadcasting and multicasting over IPV6. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/tcpip/default.mspx http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net...p/default.mspx -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org.
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May 11th 07, 06:58 AM
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hi,
we have provided ipv6 support for our network printer. it supports SMB protocol too. the problem is when ipv6 is enabled and ipv4 disabled. our printer is not visible in network neighbour hood of vista machine. i just want to know what are the protocols in ipv6 required for a printer/device to visible in network. in case of IPv4 it will be taken by NBNS if im not wrong. "Chuck" wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2007 01:33:00 -0700, feroz ahmed wrote: "Chuck" wrote: On Wed, 9 May 2007 21:31:02 -0700, feroz ahmed wrote: hi what are the protocols that are responsible in vista(IPv6) for a computer to visible in network neighbourhood (Network). Visibility in Network Neighbourhood is a browser issue. The browser uses Server Message Blocks, generally hosted on NetBIOS Over TCP. http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...lways-see.html http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...ing-using.html we have provided ipv6 support for SMB protocol for a device. all the operations such as file share,etc are working with ipv6. but still our device is not visible in ipv6 network neighbourhood. where as it is visible in network neighbourhood with ipv4 enabled and ipv6 disabled. when we capture packets between two vista machines, we found some LLMNR packets and a few packets multicasted to ff02::c on to port 3702 has been observed. our device supports LLMNR too. can you tell me what is the new protocol that Microsoft has introduced in ipv6 for a device to visible in network neighbour hood. Feroz, Here's what I personally know, from reading and experimenting. 1) LLMNR is a name resolution protocol, for IPV4 and IPV6 networks. 2) The browser is an SMB based application, that provides the contents of Network Neighbourhood. 3) Browser SMBs have traditionally run over NetBT over IPV4, directly hosted over IPV4, IPX/SPX, and NetBEUI. Since I don't know who you are (nor who "we" is), nor what your device is, I'll suggest that you read up on IPV6, and see if you can find mention of SMBs over IPV6. Also look for mention of broadcasting and multicasting over IPV6. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/tcpip/default.mspx http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net...p/default.mspx -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org.
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May 11th 07, 08:58 PM
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On Thu, 10 May 2007 23:58:00 -0700, feroz ahmed
wrote: "Chuck" wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2007 01:33:00 -0700, feroz ahmed wrote: "Chuck" wrote: On Wed, 9 May 2007 21:31:02 -0700, feroz ahmed wrote: hi what are the protocols that are responsible in vista(IPv6) for a computer to visible in network neighbourhood (Network). Visibility in Network Neighbourhood is a browser issue. The browser uses Server Message Blocks, generally hosted on NetBIOS Over TCP. http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...lways-see.html http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...ing-using.html we have provided ipv6 support for SMB protocol for a device. all the operations such as file share,etc are working with ipv6. but still our device is not visible in ipv6 network neighbourhood. where as it is visible in network neighbourhood with ipv4 enabled and ipv6 disabled. when we capture packets between two vista machines, we found some LLMNR packets and a few packets multicasted to ff02::c on to port 3702 has been observed. our device supports LLMNR too. can you tell me what is the new protocol that Microsoft has introduced in ipv6 for a device to visible in network neighbour hood. Feroz, Here's what I personally know, from reading and experimenting. 1) LLMNR is a name resolution protocol, for IPV4 and IPV6 networks. 2) The browser is an SMB based application, that provides the contents of Network Neighbourhood. 3) Browser SMBs have traditionally run over NetBT over IPV4, directly hosted over IPV4, IPX/SPX, and NetBEUI. Since I don't know who you are (nor who "we" is), nor what your device is, I'll suggest that you read up on IPV6, and see if you can find mention of SMBs over IPV6. Also look for mention of broadcasting and multicasting over IPV6. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/tcpip/default.mspx http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net...p/default.mspx hi, we have provided ipv6 support for our network printer. it supports SMB protocol too. the problem is when ipv6 is enabled and ipv4 disabled. our printer is not visible in network neighbour hood of vista machine. i just want to know what are the protocols in ipv6 required for a printer/device to visible in network. in case of IPv4 it will be taken by NBNS if im not wrong. Well, the term "protocol" is vague enough to mean several things. I'll discuss the browser, which is what you are worried about. When you disable IPV4, which computers do you disable it on? When you enable IPV6 after disabling IPV4, are you enabling NetBT on IPV6? Are you doing so consistently? The bottom line is, all computers have to have the same protocol stacks. IPV4, IPV6, NetBT on or off, all have to be identical. If they're not, you risk having multiple master browsers, which cause segmented browse domains, and some devices are visible while others aren't. http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...lways-see.html -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org.
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