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Hi all,
Ok, I'm pounding my head against a wall in frustration with a certain aspect of Vista. I'm the MIS Manager for a large company and am evaluating Vista as a potential upgrade to some of our desktops. I've been able to get everything I need to work in Vista save one thing. We're on a domain here, and when I log into XP, I use my username/password for the domain to log into my laptop. From there I have all the access I need to pull up, change, save and create files to our network drives. Now herein lies my problem. I cannot do this in Vista. When I log in to our domain, using the same credentials I use in XP, and try to work with a network file, I can access the drives just fine, but Vista opens them up as read-only files, will not allow me to save changes to the network drives and will not allow me to save new files to the network. I keep getting the same error message - that I do not have sufficient rights to perform those actions and that I need to contact my system administrator. Well, I AM the administrator and my login/password has complete access rights to everything on our network, but not in Vista. Can anyone help me out here? The machine I'm using is in a dual-boot config, with one being XP and the other Vista. As I said above, I have no problems when I boot into XP, but when I boot into Vista I am not allowed to make changes to network files. I was able to successfully add the Vista boot to our domain. Any help would be appreciated!!! If I can't get this resolved, I'm going to recommend against upgrading to Vista. We're running Server 2003 as our main server platform. Thanks!!!! |
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MVeter,
Stupid question, this Vista machine has been registered on your domain? If you UNC to the share, can you write files to the drive? Have you check the event log on your Vista machine to see if you have any autoenrollment errors? OKuma "mveter" wrote in message ... Hi all, Ok, I'm pounding my head against a wall in frustration with a certain aspect of Vista. I'm the MIS Manager for a large company and am evaluating Vista as a potential upgrade to some of our desktops. I've been able to get everything I need to work in Vista save one thing. We're on a domain here, and when I log into XP, I use my username/password for the domain to log into my laptop. From there I have all the access I need to pull up, change, save and create files to our network drives. Now herein lies my problem. I cannot do this in Vista. When I log in to our domain, using the same credentials I use in XP, and try to work with a network file, I can access the drives just fine, but Vista opens them up as read-only files, will not allow me to save changes to the network drives and will not allow me to save new files to the network. I keep getting the same error message - that I do not have sufficient rights to perform those actions and that I need to contact my system administrator. Well, I AM the administrator and my login/password has complete access rights to everything on our network, but not in Vista. Can anyone help me out here? The machine I'm using is in a dual-boot config, with one being XP and the other Vista. As I said above, I have no problems when I boot into XP, but when I boot into Vista I am not allowed to make changes to network files. I was able to successfully add the Vista boot to our domain. Any help would be appreciated!!! If I can't get this resolved, I'm going to recommend against upgrading to Vista. We're running Server 2003 as our main server platform. Thanks!!!! |
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Hi OKuma,
Thanks for the reply!! The funny thing here is, is that if I log into Vista using my system administrator login and password then I can do whatever I need to do just fine. All files open up normally, I can edit, create new, etc without any problems. However, when I use my own login, which has all the same rights as the administrative login, then I cannot do any of that. So yes, the machine is registered on the domain. Nothing shows on the event log. The same trouble occurs when I UNC over to the share and try to change anything. Works fine when I'm logged in as the system admin, but not when I'm logged in under my initials. In XP, everything works as it should, since my initials carry the same system rights as the administrator login. This problem with Vista won't just be a worry for me. All of our users have access to their own network drives and other shared directores. In XP, they can maneuver around as they need to, but if we switch to Vista, that functionality will go away. It's as if Vista refuses to acknowledge security rights from our main server, other than for the administrator... Any ideas??? "OKuma" wrote: MVeter, Stupid question, this Vista machine has been registered on your domain? If you UNC to the share, can you write files to the drive? Have you check the event log on your Vista machine to see if you have any autoenrollment errors? OKuma "mveter" wrote in message ... Hi all, Ok, I'm pounding my head against a wall in frustration with a certain aspect of Vista. I'm the MIS Manager for a large company and am evaluating Vista as a potential upgrade to some of our desktops. I've been able to get everything I need to work in Vista save one thing. We're on a domain here, and when I log into XP, I use my username/password for the domain to log into my laptop. From there I have all the access I need to pull up, change, save and create files to our network drives. Now herein lies my problem. I cannot do this in Vista. When I log in to our domain, using the same credentials I use in XP, and try to work with a network file, I can access the drives just fine, but Vista opens them up as read-only files, will not allow me to save changes to the network drives and will not allow me to save new files to the network. I keep getting the same error message - that I do not have sufficient rights to perform those actions and that I need to contact my system administrator. Well, I AM the administrator and my login/password has complete access rights to everything on our network, but not in Vista. Can anyone help me out here? The machine I'm using is in a dual-boot config, with one being XP and the other Vista. As I said above, I have no problems when I boot into XP, but when I boot into Vista I am not allowed to make changes to network files. I was able to successfully add the Vista boot to our domain. Any help would be appreciated!!! If I can't get this resolved, I'm going to recommend against upgrading to Vista. We're running Server 2003 as our main server platform. Thanks!!!! |
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Did you specifically join the Vista computer to the domain? Are the DNS
settings correct on the Vista computer? For all intents and purposes when you boot Vista you are using a different computer. Make sure it has a different computer name from when you boot to XP. Make sure that a domain DNS server is the only DNS server in the TCP/IP properties. If you have a WINS server make sure Vista is set to use it. Once all the preceding is in place join the computer to the domain. Confirm that the Vista computer name shows up in the correct OU. If the Vista computer is already joined to the domain then is it a NT, win2k or win2003 domain? Post the results of ipconfig /all from XP and Vista. -- Kerry Brown Microsoft MVP - Shell/User http://www.vistahelp.ca "mveter" wrote in message ... Hi OKuma, Thanks for the reply!! The funny thing here is, is that if I log into Vista using my system administrator login and password then I can do whatever I need to do just fine. All files open up normally, I can edit, create new, etc without any problems. However, when I use my own login, which has all the same rights as the administrative login, then I cannot do any of that. So yes, the machine is registered on the domain. Nothing shows on the event log. The same trouble occurs when I UNC over to the share and try to change anything. Works fine when I'm logged in as the system admin, but not when I'm logged in under my initials. In XP, everything works as it should, since my initials carry the same system rights as the administrator login. This problem with Vista won't just be a worry for me. All of our users have access to their own network drives and other shared directores. In XP, they can maneuver around as they need to, but if we switch to Vista, that functionality will go away. It's as if Vista refuses to acknowledge security rights from our main server, other than for the administrator... Any ideas??? "OKuma" wrote: MVeter, Stupid question, this Vista machine has been registered on your domain? If you UNC to the share, can you write files to the drive? Have you check the event log on your Vista machine to see if you have any autoenrollment errors? OKuma "mveter" wrote in message ... Hi all, Ok, I'm pounding my head against a wall in frustration with a certain aspect of Vista. I'm the MIS Manager for a large company and am evaluating Vista as a potential upgrade to some of our desktops. I've been able to get everything I need to work in Vista save one thing. We're on a domain here, and when I log into XP, I use my username/password for the domain to log into my laptop. From there I have all the access I need to pull up, change, save and create files to our network drives. Now herein lies my problem. I cannot do this in Vista. When I log in to our domain, using the same credentials I use in XP, and try to work with a network file, I can access the drives just fine, but Vista opens them up as read-only files, will not allow me to save changes to the network drives and will not allow me to save new files to the network. I keep getting the same error message - that I do not have sufficient rights to perform those actions and that I need to contact my system administrator. Well, I AM the administrator and my login/password has complete access rights to everything on our network, but not in Vista. Can anyone help me out here? The machine I'm using is in a dual-boot config, with one being XP and the other Vista. As I said above, I have no problems when I boot into XP, but when I boot into Vista I am not allowed to make changes to network files. I was able to successfully add the Vista boot to our domain. Any help would be appreciated!!! If I can't get this resolved, I'm going to recommend against upgrading to Vista. We're running Server 2003 as our main server platform. Thanks!!!! |
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Try this.
Logon with your domain account on the Vista Machine On the server that contains the shares, do a \\ServerName\c$ to authenticate with the root of that machine Then see if you can do adds, moves, and changes to the shares. OKuma "mveter" wrote in message ... Hi OKuma, Thanks for the reply!! The funny thing here is, is that if I log into Vista using my system administrator login and password then I can do whatever I need to do just fine. All files open up normally, I can edit, create new, etc without any problems. However, when I use my own login, which has all the same rights as the administrative login, then I cannot do any of that. So yes, the machine is registered on the domain. Nothing shows on the event log. The same trouble occurs when I UNC over to the share and try to change anything. Works fine when I'm logged in as the system admin, but not when I'm logged in under my initials. In XP, everything works as it should, since my initials carry the same system rights as the administrator login. This problem with Vista won't just be a worry for me. All of our users have access to their own network drives and other shared directores. In XP, they can maneuver around as they need to, but if we switch to Vista, that functionality will go away. It's as if Vista refuses to acknowledge security rights from our main server, other than for the administrator... Any ideas??? "OKuma" wrote: MVeter, Stupid question, this Vista machine has been registered on your domain? If you UNC to the share, can you write files to the drive? Have you check the event log on your Vista machine to see if you have any autoenrollment errors? OKuma "mveter" wrote in message ... Hi all, Ok, I'm pounding my head against a wall in frustration with a certain aspect of Vista. I'm the MIS Manager for a large company and am evaluating Vista as a potential upgrade to some of our desktops. I've been able to get everything I need to work in Vista save one thing. We're on a domain here, and when I log into XP, I use my username/password for the domain to log into my laptop. From there I have all the access I need to pull up, change, save and create files to our network drives. Now herein lies my problem. I cannot do this in Vista. When I log in to our domain, using the same credentials I use in XP, and try to work with a network file, I can access the drives just fine, but Vista opens them up as read-only files, will not allow me to save changes to the network drives and will not allow me to save new files to the network. I keep getting the same error message - that I do not have sufficient rights to perform those actions and that I need to contact my system administrator. Well, I AM the administrator and my login/password has complete access rights to everything on our network, but not in Vista. Can anyone help me out here? The machine I'm using is in a dual-boot config, with one being XP and the other Vista. As I said above, I have no problems when I boot into XP, but when I boot into Vista I am not allowed to make changes to network files. I was able to successfully add the Vista boot to our domain. Any help would be appreciated!!! If I can't get this resolved, I'm going to recommend against upgrading to Vista. We're running Server 2003 as our main server platform. Thanks!!!! |
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Hi Kerry,
Yes, the Vista computer is joined to the domain using a different computer name than the XP boot portion. I made sure to take care of all that when I first loaded Vista. All of the DNS settings are correct and right now we don't use WINS, so that's not an issue. The TCP/IP settings are accurate as well. The Vista boot has been a successful domain add since I first installed it. I've had no problems with other domain tasks (like RDP into our main file server using an internal IP, etc). The server platform is Server 2003. A little add-on here... i don't know WHY this worked, just that it did... I deleted the mapped network drive I wanted access to and then re-mapped it. After I had done that everything started working fine. I can now access all of my network files across the entire domain with full edit rights... So, a follow-up question... What happened there??? I tweaked some settings in Server 2003, but I highly doubt that what I did affected my ability to have more than read-only access to network files. I personally like Vista, and think it would work well for some of our desktop users, but am hesistant to promote an upgrade until I have an understanding as to what caused my network access issues... Thanks!!! "Kerry Brown" wrote: Did you specifically join the Vista computer to the domain? Are the DNS settings correct on the Vista computer? For all intents and purposes when you boot Vista you are using a different computer. Make sure it has a different computer name from when you boot to XP. Make sure that a domain DNS server is the only DNS server in the TCP/IP properties. If you have a WINS server make sure Vista is set to use it. Once all the preceding is in place join the computer to the domain. Confirm that the Vista computer name shows up in the correct OU. If the Vista computer is already joined to the domain then is it a NT, win2k or win2003 domain? Post the results of ipconfig /all from XP and Vista. -- Kerry Brown Microsoft MVP - Shell/User http://www.vistahelp.ca "mveter" wrote in message ... Hi OKuma, Thanks for the reply!! The funny thing here is, is that if I log into Vista using my system administrator login and password then I can do whatever I need to do just fine. All files open up normally, I can edit, create new, etc without any problems. However, when I use my own login, which has all the same rights as the administrative login, then I cannot do any of that. So yes, the machine is registered on the domain. Nothing shows on the event log. The same trouble occurs when I UNC over to the share and try to change anything. Works fine when I'm logged in as the system admin, but not when I'm logged in under my initials. In XP, everything works as it should, since my initials carry the same system rights as the administrator login. This problem with Vista won't just be a worry for me. All of our users have access to their own network drives and other shared directores. In XP, they can maneuver around as they need to, but if we switch to Vista, that functionality will go away. It's as if Vista refuses to acknowledge security rights from our main server, other than for the administrator... Any ideas??? "OKuma" wrote: MVeter, Stupid question, this Vista machine has been registered on your domain? If you UNC to the share, can you write files to the drive? Have you check the event log on your Vista machine to see if you have any autoenrollment errors? OKuma "mveter" wrote in message ... Hi all, Ok, I'm pounding my head against a wall in frustration with a certain aspect of Vista. I'm the MIS Manager for a large company and am evaluating Vista as a potential upgrade to some of our desktops. I've been able to get everything I need to work in Vista save one thing. We're on a domain here, and when I log into XP, I use my username/password for the domain to log into my laptop. From there I have all the access I need to pull up, change, save and create files to our network drives. Now herein lies my problem. I cannot do this in Vista. When I log in to our domain, using the same credentials I use in XP, and try to work with a network file, I can access the drives just fine, but Vista opens them up as read-only files, will not allow me to save changes to the network drives and will not allow me to save new files to the network. I keep getting the same error message - that I do not have sufficient rights to perform those actions and that I need to contact my system administrator. Well, I AM the administrator and my login/password has complete access rights to everything on our network, but not in Vista. Can anyone help me out here? The machine I'm using is in a dual-boot config, with one being XP and the other Vista. As I said above, I have no problems when I boot into XP, but when I boot into Vista I am not allowed to make changes to network files. I was able to successfully add the Vista boot to our domain. Any help would be appreciated!!! If I can't get this resolved, I'm going to recommend against upgrading to Vista. We're running Server 2003 as our main server platform. Thanks!!!! |
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Hi OKuma,
Yes, I can authenticate to the server root just fine, and edit/add/delete files. The problem has resovled itself, though. This may be purely coincidental, but I don't believe in coincidences with computers, so probably not... Last night before I left I deleted all of my mapped drives and re-mapped them. Since I've done that I've had no problems with full access... So something happened, but I've no real idea as to what. I can maneuver around the domain just like I was able to in an XP boot. I gotta tell you, working with Microsoft products sometimes makes me feel like Alice falling down the rabbit hole... :-) "OKuma" wrote: Try this. Logon with your domain account on the Vista Machine On the server that contains the shares, do a \\ServerName\c$ to authenticate with the root of that machine Then see if you can do adds, moves, and changes to the shares. OKuma "mveter" wrote in message ... Hi OKuma, Thanks for the reply!! The funny thing here is, is that if I log into Vista using my system administrator login and password then I can do whatever I need to do just fine. All files open up normally, I can edit, create new, etc without any problems. However, when I use my own login, which has all the same rights as the administrative login, then I cannot do any of that. So yes, the machine is registered on the domain. Nothing shows on the event log. The same trouble occurs when I UNC over to the share and try to change anything. Works fine when I'm logged in as the system admin, but not when I'm logged in under my initials. In XP, everything works as it should, since my initials carry the same system rights as the administrator login. This problem with Vista won't just be a worry for me. All of our users have access to their own network drives and other shared directores. In XP, they can maneuver around as they need to, but if we switch to Vista, that functionality will go away. It's as if Vista refuses to acknowledge security rights from our main server, other than for the administrator... Any ideas??? "OKuma" wrote: MVeter, Stupid question, this Vista machine has been registered on your domain? If you UNC to the share, can you write files to the drive? Have you check the event log on your Vista machine to see if you have any autoenrollment errors? OKuma "mveter" wrote in message ... Hi all, Ok, I'm pounding my head against a wall in frustration with a certain aspect of Vista. I'm the MIS Manager for a large company and am evaluating Vista as a potential upgrade to some of our desktops. I've been able to get everything I need to work in Vista save one thing. We're on a domain here, and when I log into XP, I use my username/password for the domain to log into my laptop. From there I have all the access I need to pull up, change, save and create files to our network drives. Now herein lies my problem. I cannot do this in Vista. When I log in to our domain, using the same credentials I use in XP, and try to work with a network file, I can access the drives just fine, but Vista opens them up as read-only files, will not allow me to save changes to the network drives and will not allow me to save new files to the network. I keep getting the same error message - that I do not have sufficient rights to perform those actions and that I need to contact my system administrator. Well, I AM the administrator and my login/password has complete access rights to everything on our network, but not in Vista. Can anyone help me out here? The machine I'm using is in a dual-boot config, with one being XP and the other Vista. As I said above, I have no problems when I boot into XP, but when I boot into Vista I am not allowed to make changes to network files. I was able to successfully add the Vista boot to our domain. Any help would be appreciated!!! If I can't get this resolved, I'm going to recommend against upgrading to Vista. We're running Server 2003 as our main server platform. Thanks!!!! |
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I've seen similar problems in XP when credentials get mixed up. I usually
use "net use * /delete" to delete all mappings and start over again. I like Vista and have figured out how to use it on my own network. I don't recommend deploying it on a production network at this point. You may want to deploy it for yourself for learning and possibly a couple of early adopter/techie users for testing. Networking, DNS, and authentication have changed enough that some past practices may bite you unexpectedly. Once you get the kinks worked out and have a few users comfortable with it and running smoothly you can re-evaluate deploying it to a wider audience. -- Kerry Brown Microsoft MVP - Shell/User http://www.vistahelp.ca "mveter" wrote in message ... Hi Kerry, Yes, the Vista computer is joined to the domain using a different computer name than the XP boot portion. I made sure to take care of all that when I first loaded Vista. All of the DNS settings are correct and right now we don't use WINS, so that's not an issue. The TCP/IP settings are accurate as well. The Vista boot has been a successful domain add since I first installed it. I've had no problems with other domain tasks (like RDP into our main file server using an internal IP, etc). The server platform is Server 2003. A little add-on here... i don't know WHY this worked, just that it did... I deleted the mapped network drive I wanted access to and then re-mapped it. After I had done that everything started working fine. I can now access all of my network files across the entire domain with full edit rights... So, a follow-up question... What happened there??? I tweaked some settings in Server 2003, but I highly doubt that what I did affected my ability to have more than read-only access to network files. I personally like Vista, and think it would work well for some of our desktop users, but am hesistant to promote an upgrade until I have an understanding as to what caused my network access issues... Thanks!!! "Kerry Brown" wrote: Did you specifically join the Vista computer to the domain? Are the DNS settings correct on the Vista computer? For all intents and purposes when you boot Vista you are using a different computer. Make sure it has a different computer name from when you boot to XP. Make sure that a domain DNS server is the only DNS server in the TCP/IP properties. If you have a WINS server make sure Vista is set to use it. Once all the preceding is in place join the computer to the domain. Confirm that the Vista computer name shows up in the correct OU. If the Vista computer is already joined to the domain then is it a NT, win2k or win2003 domain? Post the results of ipconfig /all from XP and Vista. -- Kerry Brown Microsoft MVP - Shell/User http://www.vistahelp.ca "mveter" wrote in message ... Hi OKuma, Thanks for the reply!! The funny thing here is, is that if I log into Vista using my system administrator login and password then I can do whatever I need to do just fine. All files open up normally, I can edit, create new, etc without any problems. However, when I use my own login, which has all the same rights as the administrative login, then I cannot do any of that. So yes, the machine is registered on the domain. Nothing shows on the event log. The same trouble occurs when I UNC over to the share and try to change anything. Works fine when I'm logged in as the system admin, but not when I'm logged in under my initials. In XP, everything works as it should, since my initials carry the same system rights as the administrator login. This problem with Vista won't just be a worry for me. All of our users have access to their own network drives and other shared directores. In XP, they can maneuver around as they need to, but if we switch to Vista, that functionality will go away. It's as if Vista refuses to acknowledge security rights from our main server, other than for the administrator... Any ideas??? "OKuma" wrote: MVeter, Stupid question, this Vista machine has been registered on your domain? If you UNC to the share, can you write files to the drive? Have you check the event log on your Vista machine to see if you have any autoenrollment errors? OKuma "mveter" wrote in message ... Hi all, Ok, I'm pounding my head against a wall in frustration with a certain aspect of Vista. I'm the MIS Manager for a large company and am evaluating Vista as a potential upgrade to some of our desktops. I've been able to get everything I need to work in Vista save one thing. We're on a domain here, and when I log into XP, I use my username/password for the domain to log into my laptop. From there I have all the access I need to pull up, change, save and create files to our network drives. Now herein lies my problem. I cannot do this in Vista. When I log in to our domain, using the same credentials I use in XP, and try to work with a network file, I can access the drives just fine, but Vista opens them up as read-only files, will not allow me to save changes to the network drives and will not allow me to save new files to the network. I keep getting the same error message - that I do not have sufficient rights to perform those actions and that I need to contact my system administrator. Well, I AM the administrator and my login/password has complete access rights to everything on our network, but not in Vista. Can anyone help me out here? The machine I'm using is in a dual-boot config, with one being XP and the other Vista. As I said above, I have no problems when I boot into XP, but when I boot into Vista I am not allowed to make changes to network files. I was able to successfully add the Vista boot to our domain. Any help would be appreciated!!! If I can't get this resolved, I'm going to recommend against upgrading to Vista. We're running Server 2003 as our main server platform. Thanks!!!! |
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