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Files not showing up.



 
 
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Old May 30th 07, 11:45 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
Rod
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Default Files not showing up.

I'm exasperated, I have tried to set permissions for files and folders
setting full control for every category of user. I still cant open PaintShop
and save a .bmp that will be visible in another application, Liberty BASIC in
this instance. I have a project folder and am trying to save all resources to
one location. The file exists and can be retrieved by PaintShop from the
resource directory but I can't see it when I run Liberty BASIC or when I
browse to it using computer?!!!!!
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Old May 30th 07, 06:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
Rod
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Posts: 79
Default Files not showing up.



OK, I have turned UAC off and low and behold I can see my resource files in
my resource directory. Now why does it have to be so complex?, why do I
have to turn UAC off to perform "basic" computing tasks like reading and
writing files? Why can't I have PaintShopPro and Liberty BASIC as trusted
applications able to save and read files from any directory? Why do I
constantly get asked if I trust Liberty BASIC which I paid for and am
perfectly happy with!

If I could get a refund I would be trying.

Am I doing something wrong or does UAC suck?
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Old May 30th 07, 11:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
Ronnie Vernon MVP
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Default Files not showing up.

Rod

Yes, you are doing something wrong.

It's very likely that you are trying to save these files to a restricted
area such as C:\Program Files\your application folder.

You need to be saving these files to the User area, such as C:\Users\user
name\Documents or a folder you create in the users folder tree.

You are also using legacy programs that are apparently not compatible with
Vista. These programs were written for older versions of Windows, such as
XP, where programs were allowed to access every part of the OS, unrestricted
and where every user ran with full administrator privileges.

Have you ever asked yourself why a program like Paint Shop Pro needs to have
unrestricted access to your entire computer or why you have to run it as an
administrator? This means that if you turn UAC off and start PSP, any
malicious program can easily run in the same environment as PSP with the
same unrestricted access to your system. With UAC on, the malicious program
would need to ask your permission to run.

--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User


"Rod" wrote in message
...


OK, I have turned UAC off and low and behold I can see my resource files
in
my resource directory. Now why does it have to be so complex?, why do I
have to turn UAC off to perform "basic" computing tasks like reading and
writing files? Why can't I have PaintShopPro and Liberty BASIC as trusted
applications able to save and read files from any directory? Why do I
constantly get asked if I trust Liberty BASIC which I paid for and am
perfectly happy with!

If I could get a refund I would be trying.

Am I doing something wrong or does UAC suck?


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Old November 18th 09, 02:54 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
Siya Moallef
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Posts: 2
Default Files Not Showing in Windows-Vista Explorer

I was looking for some files in Windows Explorer by clicking on the folders in the tree (left) pane but to my surprise some folders that I was sure had files displayed nothing in the right pane. I assumed I had inadvertently deleted the files in that Folder. So I shift deleted the purported empty folder. But all folders under this directory in C:\Users\Siya\Documents\E061 were all empty, but shouldn't have been. I came across a folder called Transcripts it showed no files in the right pane but showed a .zip file underneath the folder name in the left pane. This zip folder should have shown on the right pane where nothing was shown. I did a command prompt and issued dir and a huge list of files including the .zip file showed up. I have full explicit access to this folder and I am also a member of administrators.
1) Why does Dos prompt show the files but the Explorer does not?
2) Can I recover the folders I shift deleted. I have lost a lot of files.



Ronnie Vernon MVP wrote:

RodYes, you are doing something wrong.
30-May-07

Rod

Yes, you are doing something wrong.

It's very likely that you are trying to save these files to a restricted
area such as C:\Program Files\your application folder.

You need to be saving these files to the User area, such as C:\Users\user
name\Documents or a folder you create in the users folder tree.

You are also using legacy programs that are apparently not compatible with
Vista. These programs were written for older versions of Windows, such as
XP, where programs were allowed to access every part of the OS, unrestricted
and where every user ran with full administrator privileges.

Have you ever asked yourself why a program like Paint Shop Pro needs to have
unrestricted access to your entire computer or why you have to run it as an
administrator? This means that if you turn UAC off and start PSP, any
malicious program can easily run in the same environment as PSP with the
same unrestricted access to your system. With UAC on, the malicious program
would need to ask your permission to run.

--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User


"Rod" wrote in message
...

Previous Posts In This Thread:

On Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:45 AM
Ro wrote:

Files not showing up.
I'm exasperated, I have tried to set permissions for files and folders
setting full control for every category of user. I still cant open PaintShop
and save a .bmp that will be visible in another application, Liberty BASIC in
this instance. I have a project folder and am trying to save all resources to
one location. The file exists and can be retrieved by PaintShop from the
resource directory but I can't see it when I run Liberty BASIC or when I
browse to it using computer?!!!!!

On Wednesday, May 30, 2007 2:49 PM
Ro wrote:

OK, I have turned UAC off and low and behold I can see my resource files in my
OK, I have turned UAC off and low and behold I can see my resource files in
my resource directory. Now why does it have to be so complex?, why do I
have to turn UAC off to perform "basic" computing tasks like reading and
writing files? Why can't I have PaintShopPro and Liberty BASIC as trusted
applications able to save and read files from any directory? Why do I
constantly get asked if I trust Liberty BASIC which I paid for and am
perfectly happy with!

If I could get a refund I would be trying.

Am I doing something wrong or does UAC suck?

On Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:41 PM
Ronnie Vernon MVP wrote:

RodYes, you are doing something wrong.
Rod

Yes, you are doing something wrong.

It's very likely that you are trying to save these files to a restricted
area such as C:\Program Files\your application folder.

You need to be saving these files to the User area, such as C:\Users\user
name\Documents or a folder you create in the users folder tree.

You are also using legacy programs that are apparently not compatible with
Vista. These programs were written for older versions of Windows, such as
XP, where programs were allowed to access every part of the OS, unrestricted
and where every user ran with full administrator privileges.

Have you ever asked yourself why a program like Paint Shop Pro needs to have
unrestricted access to your entire computer or why you have to run it as an
administrator? This means that if you turn UAC off and start PSP, any
malicious program can easily run in the same environment as PSP with the
same unrestricted access to your system. With UAC on, the malicious program
would need to ask your permission to run.

--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User


"Rod" wrote in message
...

EggHeadCafe - Software Developer Portal of Choice
Silverlight, WPF, XAML and InnerWorkings Coding Challenge
http://www.eggheadcafe.com/tutorials...f-xaml-an.aspx
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Old November 18th 09, 02:54 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management
Siya Moallef
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Posts: 2
Default Files Not Showing in Windows-Vista Explorer


I was looking for some files in Windows Explorer by clicking on the folders in the tree (left) pane but to my surprise some folders that I was sure had files displayed nothing in the right pane. I assumed I had inadvertently deleted the files in that Folder. So I shift deleted the purported empty folder. But all folders under this directory in C:\Users\Siya\Documents\E061 were all empty, but shouldn't have been. I came across a folder called Transcripts it showed no files in the right pane but showed a .zip file underneath the folder name in the left pane. This zip folder should have shown on the right pane where nothing was shown. I did a command prompt and issued dir and a huge list of files including the .zip file showed up. I have full explicit access to this folder and I am also a member of administrators.
1) Why does Dos prompt show the files but the Explorer does not?
2) Can I recover the folders I shift deleted. I have lost a lot of files.



Ronnie Vernon MVP wrote:

RodYes, you are doing something wrong.
30-May-07

Rod

Yes, you are doing something wrong.

It's very likely that you are trying to save these files to a restricted
area such as C:\Program Files\your application folder.

You need to be saving these files to the User area, such as C:\Users\user
name\Documents or a folder you create in the users folder tree.

You are also using legacy programs that are apparently not compatible with
Vista. These programs were written for older versions of Windows, such as
XP, where programs were allowed to access every part of the OS, unrestricted
and where every user ran with full administrator privileges.

Have you ever asked yourself why a program like Paint Shop Pro needs to have
unrestricted access to your entire computer or why you have to run it as an
administrator? This means that if you turn UAC off and start PSP, any
malicious program can easily run in the same environment as PSP with the
same unrestricted access to your system. With UAC on, the malicious program
would need to ask your permission to run.

--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User


"Rod" wrote in message
...

Previous Posts In This Thread:

On Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:45 AM
Ro wrote:

Files not showing up.
I'm exasperated, I have tried to set permissions for files and folders
setting full control for every category of user. I still cant open PaintShop
and save a .bmp that will be visible in another application, Liberty BASIC in
this instance. I have a project folder and am trying to save all resources to
one location. The file exists and can be retrieved by PaintShop from the
resource directory but I can't see it when I run Liberty BASIC or when I
browse to it using computer?!!!!!

On Wednesday, May 30, 2007 2:49 PM
Ro wrote:

OK, I have turned UAC off and low and behold I can see my resource files in my
OK, I have turned UAC off and low and behold I can see my resource files in
my resource directory. Now why does it have to be so complex?, why do I
have to turn UAC off to perform "basic" computing tasks like reading and
writing files? Why can't I have PaintShopPro and Liberty BASIC as trusted
applications able to save and read files from any directory? Why do I
constantly get asked if I trust Liberty BASIC which I paid for and am
perfectly happy with!

If I could get a refund I would be trying.

Am I doing something wrong or does UAC suck?

On Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:41 PM
Ronnie Vernon MVP wrote:

RodYes, you are doing something wrong.
Rod

Yes, you are doing something wrong.

It's very likely that you are trying to save these files to a restricted
area such as C:\Program Files\your application folder.

You need to be saving these files to the User area, such as C:\Users\user
name\Documents or a folder you create in the users folder tree.

You are also using legacy programs that are apparently not compatible with
Vista. These programs were written for older versions of Windows, such as
XP, where programs were allowed to access every part of the OS, unrestricted
and where every user ran with full administrator privileges.

Have you ever asked yourself why a program like Paint Shop Pro needs to have
unrestricted access to your entire computer or why you have to run it as an
administrator? This means that if you turn UAC off and start PSP, any
malicious program can easily run in the same environment as PSP with the
same unrestricted access to your system. With UAC on, the malicious program
would need to ask your permission to run.

--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User


"Rod" wrote in message
...

EggHeadCafe - Software Developer Portal of Choice
Silverlight, WPF, XAML and InnerWorkings Coding Challenge
http://www.eggheadcafe.com/tutorials...f-xaml-an.aspx
 




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