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Old June 12th 07, 01:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Peter
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Default network vista to xp

I have hours and hours trying to network Vista Premium to an xp machine. I
have installed LLPT, closed firewalls, established workgroups, shared
everything I can think of. Sometimes Vista machine can see the xp machine but
not access it, other times it cannot even see it. Why does Microsoft make it
sooooo hard to network?

Help will be appreciated.
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Old June 12th 07, 02:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Chuck
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Default network vista to xp

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 06:39:01 -0700, Peter
wrote:

I have hours and hours trying to network Vista Premium to an xp machine. I
have installed LLPT, closed firewalls, established workgroups, shared
everything I can think of. Sometimes Vista machine can see the xp machine but
not access it, other times it cannot even see it. Why does Microsoft make it
sooooo hard to network?

Help will be appreciated.


Peter,

Lets look at the logs from "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all", from each
computer, and start to diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked
articles, and follow instructions precisely (download browstat!):
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp

You may also want to read about layered network troubleshooting.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-tutorial.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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Old June 12th 07, 05:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Peter
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Posts: 434
Default network vista to xp

I can run browstat status and ipconfig, but I can't run the "browstat status
c:\browstat.txt". I get access denied.


"Chuck" wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 06:39:01 -0700, Peter
wrote:

I have hours and hours trying to network Vista Premium to an xp machine. I
have installed LLPT, closed firewalls, established workgroups, shared
everything I can think of. Sometimes Vista machine can see the xp machine but
not access it, other times it cannot even see it. Why does Microsoft make it
sooooo hard to network?

Help will be appreciated.


Peter,

Lets look at the logs from "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all", from each
computer, and start to diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked
articles, and follow instructions precisely (download browstat!):
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp

You may also want to read about layered network troubleshooting.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-tutorial.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

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Old June 12th 07, 06:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Chuck
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Posts: 300
Default network vista to xp

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:22:00 -0700, Peter
wrote:

"Chuck" wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 06:39:01 -0700, Peter
wrote:

I have hours and hours trying to network Vista Premium to an xp machine. I
have installed LLPT, closed firewalls, established workgroups, shared
everything I can think of. Sometimes Vista machine can see the xp machine but
not access it, other times it cannot even see it. Why does Microsoft make it
sooooo hard to network?

Help will be appreciated.


Peter,

Lets look at the logs from "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all", from each
computer, and start to diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked
articles, and follow instructions precisely (download browstat!):
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp

You may also want to read about layered network troubleshooting.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-tutorial.html


I can run browstat status and ipconfig, but I can't run the "browstat status
c:\browstat.txt". I get access denied.


Aha. That's the "access denied".

OK, try "browstat status browstat.txt". Then you'll have to find the file (or
try "notepad browstat.txt"). Ditto "ipconfig /all ipconfig.txt".

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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Old June 12th 07, 07:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Peter
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Posts: 434
Default network vista to xp

"Access is denied" on both. I can see that you are trying to get the results
of the commands to a text file. I read your article. I wonder how else we can
do that? Thanks for your time, by the way.

"Chuck" wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:22:00 -0700, Peter
wrote:

"Chuck" wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 06:39:01 -0700, Peter
wrote:

I have hours and hours trying to network Vista Premium to an xp machine. I
have installed LLPT, closed firewalls, established workgroups, shared
everything I can think of. Sometimes Vista machine can see the xp machine but
not access it, other times it cannot even see it. Why does Microsoft make it
sooooo hard to network?

Help will be appreciated.

Peter,

Lets look at the logs from "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all", from each
computer, and start to diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked
articles, and follow instructions precisely (download browstat!):
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp

You may also want to read about layered network troubleshooting.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-tutorial.html


I can run browstat status and ipconfig, but I can't run the "browstat status
c:\browstat.txt". I get access denied.


Aha. That's the "access denied".

OK, try "browstat status browstat.txt". Then you'll have to find the file (or
try "notepad browstat.txt"). Ditto "ipconfig /all ipconfig.txt".

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

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Old June 12th 07, 07:59 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Peter
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Posts: 434
Default network vista to xp

I got it Chuck. I "marked" it, copied it to Notepad. Now what? Should I do
it for both machines, Vista and XP?

"Chuck" wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:22:00 -0700, Peter
wrote:

"Chuck" wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 06:39:01 -0700, Peter
wrote:

I have hours and hours trying to network Vista Premium to an xp machine. I
have installed LLPT, closed firewalls, established workgroups, shared
everything I can think of. Sometimes Vista machine can see the xp machine but
not access it, other times it cannot even see it. Why does Microsoft make it
sooooo hard to network?

Help will be appreciated.

Peter,

Lets look at the logs from "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all", from each
computer, and start to diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked
articles, and follow instructions precisely (download browstat!):
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp

You may also want to read about layered network troubleshooting.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-tutorial.html


I can run browstat status and ipconfig, but I can't run the "browstat status
c:\browstat.txt". I get access denied.


Aha. That's the "access denied".

OK, try "browstat status browstat.txt". Then you'll have to find the file (or
try "notepad browstat.txt"). Ditto "ipconfig /all ipconfig.txt".

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

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Old June 12th 07, 09:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Chuck
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Posts: 300
Default network vista to xp

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:59:07 -0700, Peter
wrote:

"Chuck" wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:22:00 -0700, Peter
wrote:

"Chuck" wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 06:39:01 -0700, Peter
wrote:

I have hours and hours trying to network Vista Premium to an xp machine. I
have installed LLPT, closed firewalls, established workgroups, shared
everything I can think of. Sometimes Vista machine can see the xp machine but
not access it, other times it cannot even see it. Why does Microsoft make it
sooooo hard to network?

Help will be appreciated.

Peter,

Lets look at the logs from "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all", from each
computer, and start to diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked
articles, and follow instructions precisely (download browstat!):
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp

You may also want to read about layered network troubleshooting.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-tutorial.html


I can run browstat status and ipconfig, but I can't run the "browstat status
c:\browstat.txt". I get access denied.


Aha. That's the "access denied".

OK, try "browstat status browstat.txt". Then you'll have to find the file (or
try "notepad browstat.txt"). Ditto "ipconfig /all ipconfig.txt".


I got it Chuck. I "marked" it, copied it to Notepad. Now what? Should I do
it for both machines, Vista and XP?


Right, Peter. Both "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all" from both computers.

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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Old June 12th 07, 10:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Peter
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Default network vista to xp

Do you want me to send the notepad files or do you want me to cut and paste
into this thread. I don't know how to attach a file to a reply.

"Chuck" wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:59:07 -0700, Peter
wrote:

"Chuck" wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:22:00 -0700, Peter
wrote:

"Chuck" wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 06:39:01 -0700, Peter
wrote:

I have hours and hours trying to network Vista Premium to an xp machine. I
have installed LLPT, closed firewalls, established workgroups, shared
everything I can think of. Sometimes Vista machine can see the xp machine but
not access it, other times it cannot even see it. Why does Microsoft make it
sooooo hard to network?

Help will be appreciated.

Peter,

Lets look at the logs from "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all", from each
computer, and start to diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked
articles, and follow instructions precisely (download browstat!):
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp

You may also want to read about layered network troubleshooting.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-tutorial.html

I can run browstat status and ipconfig, but I can't run the "browstat status
c:\browstat.txt". I get access denied.

Aha. That's the "access denied".

OK, try "browstat status browstat.txt". Then you'll have to find the file (or
try "notepad browstat.txt"). Ditto "ipconfig /all ipconfig.txt".


I got it Chuck. I "marked" it, copied it to Notepad. Now what? Should I do
it for both machines, Vista and XP?


Right, Peter. Both "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all" from both computers.

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

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Old June 12th 07, 10:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Chuck
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Posts: 300
Default network vista to xp

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:10:02 -0700, Peter
wrote:

"Chuck" wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:59:07 -0700, Peter
wrote:

"Chuck" wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:22:00 -0700, Peter
wrote:

"Chuck" wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 06:39:01 -0700, Peter
wrote:

I have hours and hours trying to network Vista Premium to an xp machine. I
have installed LLPT, closed firewalls, established workgroups, shared
everything I can think of. Sometimes Vista machine can see the xp machine but
not access it, other times it cannot even see it. Why does Microsoft make it
sooooo hard to network?

Help will be appreciated.

Peter,

Lets look at the logs from "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all", from each
computer, and start to diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked
articles, and follow instructions precisely (download browstat!):
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp

You may also want to read about layered network troubleshooting.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-tutorial.html

I can run browstat status and ipconfig, but I can't run the "browstat status
c:\browstat.txt". I get access denied.

Aha. That's the "access denied".

OK, try "browstat status browstat.txt". Then you'll have to find the file (or
try "notepad browstat.txt"). Ditto "ipconfig /all ipconfig.txt".


I got it Chuck. I "marked" it, copied it to Notepad. Now what? Should I do
it for both machines, Vista and XP?


Right, Peter. Both "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all" from both computers.


Do you want me to send the notepad files or do you want me to cut and paste
into this thread. I don't know how to attach a file to a reply.


Copy and Paste should work fine, Peter.

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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Old June 13th 07, 12:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Peter
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Posts: 434
Default network vista to xp

This is from the Vista Machine:

C:\Windows\system32ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : office
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hsd1.nh.comcast.net.

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.nh.comcast.net.
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-17-31-B9-70-94
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::a188:80fd:206:25f4%8(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.105(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, June 12, 2007 8:56:39 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:56:36 AM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 201332529
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.nh.comcast.net.
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.hsd1.nh.comcast.net.
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.0.105%10(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

C:\Windows\system32browstat status


Status for domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{AE717414-7649-4973-93
73-8972039B0A4F}
Browsing is active on domain.

This is from the XP machine:

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Peter Studtbrowstat status


Status for domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{E925B12D-4C2C-49B1-B8
B6-BE5986AB5731}
Browsing is NOT active on domain.
Master browser name is held by: PETER
Master browser is running build 2600

C:\Documents and Settings\Peter Studtbrowstat status


Status for domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{E925B12D-4C2C-49B1-B8
B6-BE5986AB5731}
Browsing is NOT active on domain.
Master browser name is held by: PETER
Master browser is running build 2600

C:\Documents and Settings\Peter Studtipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : peter
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hsd1.nh.comcast.net.

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.nh.comcast.net.
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network
Connecti
on
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-2F-28-B7-B2
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.100
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, June 12, 2007 3:26:01 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, June 19, 2007 3:26:01 PM

"Chuck" wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:10:02 -0700, Peter
wrote:

"Chuck" wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:59:07 -0700, Peter
wrote:

"Chuck" wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:22:00 -0700, Peter
wrote:

"Chuck" wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 06:39:01 -0700, Peter
wrote:

I have hours and hours trying to network Vista Premium to an xp machine. I
have installed LLPT, closed firewalls, established workgroups, shared
everything I can think of. Sometimes Vista machine can see the xp machine but
not access it, other times it cannot even see it. Why does Microsoft make it
sooooo hard to network?

Help will be appreciated.

Peter,

Lets look at the logs from "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all", from each
computer, and start to diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked
articles, and follow instructions precisely (download browstat!):
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp

You may also want to read about layered network troubleshooting.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-tutorial.html

I can run browstat status and ipconfig, but I can't run the "browstat status
c:\browstat.txt". I get access denied.

Aha. That's the "access denied".

OK, try "browstat status browstat.txt". Then you'll have to find the file (or
try "notepad browstat.txt"). Ditto "ipconfig /all ipconfig.txt".

I got it Chuck. I "marked" it, copied it to Notepad. Now what? Should I do
it for both machines, Vista and XP?

Right, Peter. Both "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all" from both computers.


Do you want me to send the notepad files or do you want me to cut and paste
into this thread. I don't know how to attach a file to a reply.


Copy and Paste should work fine, Peter.

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

 




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