I have 3 machines 1 each of Win98SE, Win2k Pro, & Win Vista Ultimate (64bit).
I have tried the different stratigies here to get my computers to network
but they didn't work.

Fine, I realize that Microsoft doesn't want us to use older versions even
though I have some hardware and applications I use that don't work on newer
computers.

I'm willing to try 3rd party software. I tried Network Magic but 1. it
makes my win98 computer freeze, and 2. you have to pay annual subscriptions
for the one that lets you share printers.
I tried Home Net Manager, but it doesn't work w/ Vista. I haven't seen any
others that can network all 3 computers.

any suggestions?

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 08:08:03 -0700, Rodge
wrote:

I have 3 machines 1 each of Win98SE, Win2k Pro, & Win Vista Ultimate (64bit).
I have tried the different stratigies here to get my computers to network
but they didn't work.

Fine, I realize that Microsoft doesn't want us to use older versions even
though I have some hardware and applications I use that don't work on newer
computers.

I'm willing to try 3rd party software. I tried Network Magic but 1. it
makes my win98 computer freeze, and 2. you have to pay annual subscriptions
for the one that lets you share printers.
I tried Home Net Manager, but it doesn't work w/ Vista. I haven't seen any
others that can network all 3 computers.

any suggestions?

It's fine for you to have older versions, but you will have to work hard to get
the older versions to interact with the newer versions. And there are multiple
challenges with each combination of older version - newer version.

So start by dispensing with the "I've tried everything and it didn't work" bit.
If you'd tried everything, it would work, and you shouldn't need 3rd party
software.

Focus on getting two computers to work together - I'll suggest Vista and 2000.
Windows 2000 is similar enough to XP. This should get you started.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

Thanks for your response. That's what I did. My 98 & 2000 already work
together fine.
I tried disabling ipv6, editiing the registry, editing the Windows Services
on Vista, disabling Password protection. I spent over two days following the
suggestions from you guys on this site. Very insightful stuff, but the best
I could get was that they could see each other on the LAN but not access
anything.
The problems is they don't all share a protocol similiar enough to share.
That's where 3rd party software comes in since Microsoft totally stopped
supporting Win98 last year and has really scaled back it Win2k support

"Chuck" wrote:

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 08:08:03 -0700, Rodge
wrote:

I have 3 machines 1 each of Win98SE, Win2k Pro, & Win Vista Ultimate (64bit).
I have tried the different stratigies here to get my computers to network
but they didn't work.

Fine, I realize that Microsoft doesn't want us to use older versions even
though I have some hardware and applications I use that don't work on newer
computers.

I'm willing to try 3rd party software. I tried Network Magic but 1. it
makes my win98 computer freeze, and 2. you have to pay annual subscriptions
for the one that lets you share printers.
I tried Home Net Manager, but it doesn't work w/ Vista. I haven't seen any
others that can network all 3 computers.

any suggestions?

It's fine for you to have older versions, but you will have to work hard to get
the older versions to interact with the newer versions. And there are multiple
challenges with each combination of older version - newer version.

So start by dispensing with the "I've tried everything and it didn't work" bit.
If you'd tried everything, it would work, and you shouldn't need 3rd party
software.

Focus on getting two computers to work together - I'll suggest Vista and 2000.
Windows 2000 is similar enough to XP. This should get you started.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 09:11:01 -0700, Rodge
wrote:

"Chuck" wrote:

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 08:08:03 -0700, Rodge
wrote:

I have 3 machines 1 each of Win98SE, Win2k Pro, & Win Vista Ultimate (64bit).
I have tried the different stratigies here to get my computers to network
but they didn't work.

Fine, I realize that Microsoft doesn't want us to use older versions even
though I have some hardware and applications I use that don't work on newer
computers.

I'm willing to try 3rd party software. I tried Network Magic but 1. it
makes my win98 computer freeze, and 2. you have to pay annual subscriptions
for the one that lets you share printers.
I tried Home Net Manager, but it doesn't work w/ Vista. I haven't seen any
others that can network all 3 computers.

any suggestions?

It's fine for you to have older versions, but you will have to work hard to get
the older versions to interact with the newer versions. And there are multiple
challenges with each combination of older version - newer version.

So start by dispensing with the "I've tried everything and it didn't work" bit.
If you'd tried everything, it would work, and you shouldn't need 3rd party
software.

Focus on getting two computers to work together - I'll suggest Vista and 2000.
Windows 2000 is similar enough to XP. This should get you started.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html

Thanks for your response. That's what I did. My 98 & 2000 already work
together fine.
I tried disabling ipv6, editiing the registry, editing the Windows Services
on Vista, disabling Password protection. I spent over two days following the
suggestions from you guys on this site. Very insightful stuff, but the best
I could get was that they could see each other on the LAN but not access
anything.
The problems is they don't all share a protocol similiar enough to share.
That's where 3rd party software comes in since Microsoft totally stopped
supporting Win98 last year and has really scaled back it Win2k support

OK, if you have 2K working with 98, you have a good baseline. What about 2K
with Vista?

I won't downplay the differences, but they are solve able. Just go one pair at
a time. Look at the issues involved in XP to XP.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ghborhood.html

Then look at the specific issues with Vista.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html

And if you don't see a solution there, post diagnostics here.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

I have different versions accessing the vista ultimate box. One restriction
was that the other computers needed to have an account name and password on
the vista box for authentication purposes. Then make sure in the networking
and sharing that file sharing is enabled. Then make sure to right click on
the folder(s) you want to share are shared and the the permissions are set
to everyone. Lastly, make sure all nodes are in the same workgroup. Some
defaults to MSHOME and other WORKGROUP. Even after you get them hooked up
you will find the performance for some reason. XP pro seems to work best but
the transfer speeds on the others is super slow.
"Chuck" wrote in message
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On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 09:11:01 -0700, Rodge

wrote:

"Chuck" wrote:

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 08:08:03 -0700, Rodge

wrote:

I have 3 machines 1 each of Win98SE, Win2k Pro, & Win Vista Ultimate
(64bit).
I have tried the different stratigies here to get my computers to
network
but they didn't work.

Fine, I realize that Microsoft doesn't want us to use older versions
even
though I have some hardware and applications I use that don't work on
newer
computers.

I'm willing to try 3rd party software. I tried Network Magic but 1. it
makes my win98 computer freeze, and 2. you have to pay annual
subscriptions
for the one that lets you share printers.
I tried Home Net Manager, but it doesn't work w/ Vista. I haven't seen
any
others that can network all 3 computers.

any suggestions?

It's fine for you to have older versions, but you will have to work hard
to get
the older versions to interact with the newer versions. And there are
multiple
challenges with each combination of older version - newer version.

So start by dispensing with the "I've tried everything and it didn't
work" bit.
If you'd tried everything, it would work, and you shouldn't need 3rd
party
software.

Focus on getting two computers to work together - I'll suggest Vista and
2000.
Windows 2000 is similar enough to XP. This should get you started.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html

Thanks for your response. That's what I did. My 98 & 2000 already work
together fine.
I tried disabling ipv6, editiing the registry, editing the Windows
Services
on Vista, disabling Password protection. I spent over two days following
the
suggestions from you guys on this site. Very insightful stuff, but the
best
I could get was that they could see each other on the LAN but not access
anything.
The problems is they don't all share a protocol similiar enough to share.
That's where 3rd party software comes in since Microsoft totally stopped
supporting Win98 last year and has really scaled back it Win2k support

OK, if you have 2K working with 98, you have a good baseline. What about
2K
with Vista?

I won't downplay the differences, but they are solve able. Just go one
pair at
a time. Look at the issues involved in XP to XP.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ghborhood.html

Then look at the specific issues with Vista.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html

And if you don't see a solution there, post diagnostics here.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

I just added a Vista (Business) PC to a small network that includes PCs running Win98, WinME, Win2000, WinNT and WinXP.

At this point the WinV PC can access the shared drives of the other PCs. But while the WinV PC and its shared C: drive appears in the computer list, trying to access the drive generates an access error.

I suspect I need to create a username and password for each of the PCs that I want to have access to the WinV PC.

But I can't figure out how to do this.

I'd appreciate any tips, posted here or sent directly to me offline. Thanks. --Marc





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On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 05:29:24 -0700, Marc Tucker wrote:

I just added a Vista (Business) PC to a small network that includes PCs running Win98, WinME, Win2000, WinNT and WinXP.

At this point the WinV PC can access the shared drives of the other PCs. But while the WinV PC and its shared C: drive appears in the computer list, trying to access the drive generates an access error.

I suspect I need to create a username and password for each of the PCs that I want to have access to the WinV PC.

But I can't figure out how to do this.

I'd appreciate any tips, posted here or sent directly to me offline. Thanks. --Marc

Marc,

You can use a non-Guest account, or a Guest account, it's your choice. Start by
setting the Network Location Type to Private.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.