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June 16th 07, 09:06 PM
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Apologies if I ramble incoherently - it will quickly become clear that
I only just about understand what I'm talking about. We have an PC with XP SP2 We have just bought a laptop, with Vista, and a Belkin router. The router is currently between modem & PC - both ethernet connections; the laptop connects wirelessly It was easy to get the laptop to share the internet connection. After considerable playing about I managed to share the Documents folder on the laptop and have since mapped a drive on the PC to see the laptop Documents folder. However, the Vista laptop seems unable to access anything on the XP PC. In the network window, when you look at the full map it shows the Desktop connected via 'Switch' on the wireless network. But, I can't find a way of actually accessing shared folders on the PC. Any thoughts? 
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June 16th 07, 10:56 PM
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On Jun 16, 10:31 pm, Chuck wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 14:06:37 -0700, wrote: Apologies if I ramble incoherently - it will quickly become clear that I only just about understand what I'm talking about. We have an PC with XP SP2 We have just bought a laptop, with Vista, and a Belkin router. The router is currently between modem & PC - both ethernet connections; the laptop connects wirelessly It was easy to get the laptop to share the internet connection. After considerable playing about I managed to share the Documents folder on the laptop and have since mapped a drive on the PC to see the laptop Documents folder. However, the Vista laptop seems unable to access anything on the XP PC. In the network window, when you look at the full map it shows the Desktop connected via 'Switch' on the wireless network. But, I can't find a way of actually accessing shared folders on the PC. Any thoughts? I'd start by looking at both computers, personal firewalls on each, and the NetBT setting on each. http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-usi...http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...networking-usi... And you could describe exactly what you're observing when you "can't find a way of actually accessing shared folders on the PC.". http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-i...http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ation-useful-i... And you could look at logs from "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all", from each computer, and diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (download browstat!): http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighbo...http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...etwork-neighbo... -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. Thank you for your offer of assistance. I'll do my best to add detail. Firstly, I have a PC running Windows XP SP2. It is connected via ethernet to the Belkin 54g router which is in turn connected via ethernet to a cable modem. I also have a laptop running Windows Vista Home Basic. It is connected via an in-built network card to the same Belkin router. Both computers are able to access the internet via the router. I have set up a 'Home Network' workgroup, to which both computers are registered. Using the XP-PC, I am able to see several of the laptop's shared folders in my 'My Network Places' window, including 'Users' and 'Public' on the laptop. I have also used the 'Map Network Drive' function to assign the drive letter L: on the PC to access \\Laptop \Users\Michael which works well. From it, I am able to see my documents that are stored on the laptop On the laptop itself, the machine is registered to a Private Network. When looking at the full network map it shows (correctly in my opinion) the laptop being connected wirelessly to the Wireless network, which is in turn connected to the Internet. It also shows a 'Switch' coming from the Wirless network connected directly to the desktop PC. Double-clicking on the laptop icon brings up the drives on the laptop; it is not possible to double-clicking on the desktop PC icon. I have enabled 'Network Discovery', 'File sharing' and 'Public folder sharing' no the Vista laptop. I have disabled 'Password protected sharing' and have switched off all firewalls, including Windows Firewalls on both machines, and ZoneAlarm on the PC. When I select 'View Computers and devices' on the laptop, only the Laptop itself appears in the window. Hopefully this explains a bit better? I shall look at running the instructions you suggest and pasting the results here. Thanks again Michael
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June 16th 07, 11:07 PM
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On Jun 16, 10:31 pm, Chuck wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 14:06:37 -0700, wrote: Apologies if I ramble incoherently - it will quickly become clear that I only just about understand what I'm talking about. We have an PC with XP SP2 We have just bought a laptop, with Vista, and a Belkin router. The router is currently between modem & PC - both ethernet connections; the laptop connects wirelessly It was easy to get the laptop to share the internet connection. After considerable playing about I managed to share the Documents folder on the laptop and have since mapped a drive on the PC to see the laptop Documents folder. However, the Vista laptop seems unable to access anything on the XP PC. In the network window, when you look at the full map it shows the Desktop connected via 'Switch' on the wireless network. But, I can't find a way of actually accessing shared folders on the PC. Any thoughts? I'd start by looking at both computers, personal firewalls on each, and the NetBT setting on each. http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-usi...http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...networking-usi... And you could describe exactly what you're observing when you "can't find a way of actually accessing shared folders on the PC.". http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-i...http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ation-useful-i... And you could look at logs from "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all", from each computer, and diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (download browstat!): http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighbo...http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...etwork-neighbo... -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. IPCONFIG data for Windows XP SP2 on Desktop PC Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : DESKTOP Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : Belkin Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Belkin Description . . . . . . . . . . . : SiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-D4-16-2F-A0 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.2 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 62.30.112.39 194.117.134.19 62.30.0.39 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 16 June 2007 23:23:08 Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 19 January 2038 04:14:07 IPCONFIG data for Windows Vista on laptop Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Laptop Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : Belkin Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Belkin Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Atheros AR5005G Wireless Network Adapter Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-A8-D9-C3-D8 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::54f:38bf:106e: 7727%9(Preferred) IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.3(Preferred) Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 16 June 2007 19:39:47 Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 24 July 2143 06:32:30 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1 DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 151044264 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 62.30.112.39 194.117.134.19 62.30.0.39 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-14-0B-0D-E1-0E DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{13088C53- DDBC-4E07-81D5-6A2684E6F208} Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo- Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Belkin Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.Belkin Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::5efe: 192.168.2.3%12(Preferred) Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 62.30.112.39 194.117.134.19 62.30.0.39 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
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June 16th 07, 11:21 PM
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On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 15:56:29 -0700, wrote:
On Jun 16, 10:31 pm, Chuck wrote: On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 14:06:37 -0700, wrote: Apologies if I ramble incoherently - it will quickly become clear that I only just about understand what I'm talking about. We have an PC with XP SP2 We have just bought a laptop, with Vista, and a Belkin router. The router is currently between modem & PC - both ethernet connections; the laptop connects wirelessly It was easy to get the laptop to share the internet connection. After considerable playing about I managed to share the Documents folder on the laptop and have since mapped a drive on the PC to see the laptop Documents folder. However, the Vista laptop seems unable to access anything on the XP PC. In the network window, when you look at the full map it shows the Desktop connected via 'Switch' on the wireless network. But, I can't find a way of actually accessing shared folders on the PC. Any thoughts? I'd start by looking at both computers, personal firewalls on each, and the NetBT setting on each. http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-usi...http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...networking-usi... And you could describe exactly what you're observing when you "can't find a way of actually accessing shared folders on the PC.". http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-i...http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ation-useful-i... And you could look at logs from "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all", from each computer, and diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (download browstat!): http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighbo...http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...etwork-neighbo... -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. Thank you for your offer of assistance. I'll do my best to add detail. Firstly, I have a PC running Windows XP SP2. It is connected via ethernet to the Belkin 54g router which is in turn connected via ethernet to a cable modem. I also have a laptop running Windows Vista Home Basic. It is connected via an in-built network card to the same Belkin router. Both computers are able to access the internet via the router. I have set up a 'Home Network' workgroup, to which both computers are registered. Using the XP-PC, I am able to see several of the laptop's shared folders in my 'My Network Places' window, including 'Users' and 'Public' on the laptop. I have also used the 'Map Network Drive' function to assign the drive letter L: on the PC to access \\Laptop \Users\Michael which works well. From it, I am able to see my documents that are stored on the laptop On the laptop itself, the machine is registered to a Private Network. When looking at the full network map it shows (correctly in my opinion) the laptop being connected wirelessly to the Wireless network, which is in turn connected to the Internet. It also shows a 'Switch' coming from the Wirless network connected directly to the desktop PC. Double-clicking on the laptop icon brings up the drives on the laptop; it is not possible to double-clicking on the desktop PC icon. I have enabled 'Network Discovery', 'File sharing' and 'Public folder sharing' no the Vista laptop. I have disabled 'Password protected sharing' and have switched off all firewalls, including Windows Firewalls on both machines, and ZoneAlarm on the PC. When I select 'View Computers and devices' on the laptop, only the Laptop itself appears in the window. Hopefully this explains a bit better? I shall look at running the instructions you suggest and pasting the results here. Thanks again Michael Hi Michael, If you have ZoneAlarm on the problem computer, I'd get the instructions from Zone Labs for the right version, and un install it very carefully. Zone Alarm isn't as intrusive as Symantec, but it's a close second. Behind a NAT router, you're reasonably safe, if you practice layered security. http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/please-protect-yourself-layer-your.html http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ayer-your.html -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org.
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June 16th 07, 11:21 PM
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On Jun 16, 10:31 pm, Chuck wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 14:06:37 -0700, wrote: Apologies if I ramble incoherently - it will quickly become clear that I only just about understand what I'm talking about. We have an PC with XP SP2 We have just bought a laptop, with Vista, and a Belkin router. The router is currently between modem & PC - both ethernet connections; the laptop connects wirelessly It was easy to get the laptop to share the internet connection. After considerable playing about I managed to share the Documents folder on the laptop and have since mapped a drive on the PC to see the laptop Documents folder. However, the Vista laptop seems unable to access anything on the XP PC. In the network window, when you look at the full map it shows the Desktop connected via 'Switch' on the wireless network. But, I can't find a way of actually accessing shared folders on the PC. Any thoughts? I'd start by looking at both computers, personal firewalls on each, and the NetBT setting on each. http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-usi...http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...networking-usi... And you could describe exactly what you're observing when you "can't find a way of actually accessing shared folders on the PC.". http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-i...http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ation-useful-i... And you could look at logs from "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all", from each computer, and diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (download browstat!): http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighbo...http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...etwork-neighbo... -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. NETCONFIG output for Windows XP SP2 PC Server Name \\DESKTOP Server Comment Main PC Software version Windows 2002 Server is active on NwlnkIpx (0013d4162fa0) NwlnkNb (0013d4162fa0) NetbiosSmb (000000000000) Server hidden No Maximum Logged On Users 5 Maximum open files per session 16384 Idle session time (min) 15 The command completed successfully. Computer name \\DESKTOP Full Computer name DESKTOP User name Michael Workstation active on NwlnkNb (0013D4162FA0) NetbiosSmb (000000000000) NetBT_Tcpip_{7124D31E-0ADF-4ED8-8C32-017E9FCDA8DE} (0013D4162FA0) Software version Windows 2002 Workstation domain MC.NET Workstation Domain DNS Name (null) Logon domain DESKTOP COM Open Timeout (sec) 0 COM Send Count (byte) 16 COM Send Timeout (msec) 250 The command completed successfully. When attempting to repeat the same process on the Vista laptop in the cmd windows I got error message: System error 5 has occured Access is denied.
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June 16th 07, 11:23 PM
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On Jun 17, 12:21 am, Chuck wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 15:56:29 -0700, wrote: On Jun 16, 10:31 pm, Chuck wrote: On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 14:06:37 -0700, wrote: Apologies if I ramble incoherently - it will quickly become clear that I only just about understand what I'm talking about. We have an PC with XP SP2 We have just bought a laptop, with Vista, and a Belkin router. The router is currently between modem & PC - both ethernet connections; the laptop connects wirelessly It was easy to get the laptop to share the internet connection. After considerable playing about I managed to share the Documents folder on the laptop and have since mapped a drive on the PC to see the laptop Documents folder. However, the Vista laptop seems unable to access anything on the XP PC. In the network window, when you look at the full map it shows the Desktop connected via 'Switch' on the wireless network. But, I can't find a way of actually accessing shared folders on the PC. Any thoughts? I'd start by looking at both computers, personal firewalls on each, and the NetBT setting on each. http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-usi...http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...networking-usi... And you could describe exactly what you're observing when you "can't find a way of actually accessing shared folders on the PC.". http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-i...http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ation-useful-i... And you could look at logs from "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all", from each computer, and diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (download browstat!): http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighbo...http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...etwork-neighbo... -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. Thank you for your offer of assistance. I'll do my best to add detail. Firstly, I have a PC running Windows XP SP2. It is connected via ethernet to the Belkin 54g router which is in turn connected via ethernet to a cable modem. I also have a laptop running Windows Vista Home Basic. It is connected via an in-built network card to the same Belkin router. Both computers are able to access the internet via the router. I have set up a 'Home Network' workgroup, to which both computers are registered. Using the XP-PC, I am able to see several of the laptop's shared folders in my 'My Network Places' window, including 'Users' and 'Public' on the laptop. I have also used the 'Map Network Drive' function to assign the drive letter L: on the PC to access \\Laptop \Users\Michael which works well. From it, I am able to see my documents that are stored on the laptop On the laptop itself, the machine is registered to a Private Network. When looking at the full network map it shows (correctly in my opinion) the laptop being connected wirelessly to the Wireless network, which is in turn connected to the Internet. It also shows a 'Switch' coming from the Wirless network connected directly to the desktop PC. Double-clicking on the laptop icon brings up the drives on the laptop; it is not possible to double-clicking on the desktop PC icon. I have enabled 'Network Discovery', 'File sharing' and 'Public folder sharing' no the Vista laptop. I have disabled 'Password protected sharing' and have switched off all firewalls, including Windows Firewalls on both machines, and ZoneAlarm on the PC. When I select 'View Computers and devices' on the laptop, only the Laptop itself appears in the window. Hopefully this explains a bit better? I shall look at running the instructions you suggest and pasting the results here. Thanks again Michael Hi Michael, If you have ZoneAlarm on the problem computer, I'd get the instructions from Zone Labs for the right version, and un install it very carefully. Zone Alarm isn't as intrusive as Symantec, but it's a close second. Behind a NAT router, you're reasonably safe, if you practice layered security. http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/please-protect-yourself-layer-y...http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...urself-layer-y... -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. Ah, might that be the cause of the problem, even when switched off?
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June 17th 07, 01:12 AM
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On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 16:21:01 -0700, wrote:
On Jun 16, 10:31 pm, Chuck wrote: On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 14:06:37 -0700, wrote: Apologies if I ramble incoherently - it will quickly become clear that I only just about understand what I'm talking about. We have an PC with XP SP2 We have just bought a laptop, with Vista, and a Belkin router. The router is currently between modem & PC - both ethernet connections; the laptop connects wirelessly It was easy to get the laptop to share the internet connection. After considerable playing about I managed to share the Documents folder on the laptop and have since mapped a drive on the PC to see the laptop Documents folder. However, the Vista laptop seems unable to access anything on the XP PC. In the network window, when you look at the full map it shows the Desktop connected via 'Switch' on the wireless network. But, I can't find a way of actually accessing shared folders on the PC. Any thoughts? I'd start by looking at both computers, personal firewalls on each, and the NetBT setting on each. http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-usi...http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...networking-usi... And you could describe exactly what you're observing when you "can't find a way of actually accessing shared folders on the PC.". http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-i...http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ation-useful-i... And you could look at logs from "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all", from each computer, and diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (download browstat!): http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighbo...http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...etwork-neighbo... -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. NETCONFIG output for Windows XP SP2 PC Server Name \\DESKTOP Server Comment Main PC Software version Windows 2002 Server is active on NwlnkIpx (0013d4162fa0) NwlnkNb (0013d4162fa0) NetbiosSmb (000000000000) Server hidden No Maximum Logged On Users 5 Maximum open files per session 16384 Idle session time (min) 15 The command completed successfully. Computer name \\DESKTOP Full Computer name DESKTOP User name Michael Workstation active on NwlnkNb (0013D4162FA0) NetbiosSmb (000000000000) NetBT_Tcpip_{7124D31E-0ADF-4ED8-8C32-017E9FCDA8DE} (0013D4162FA0) Software version Windows 2002 Workstation domain MC.NET Workstation Domain DNS Name (null) Logon domain DESKTOP COM Open Timeout (sec) 0 COM Send Count (byte) 16 COM Send Timeout (msec) 250 The command completed successfully. When attempting to repeat the same process on the Vista laptop in the cmd windows I got error message: System error 5 has occured Access is denied. To run net config on Vista: 1) Run as admin. 2) Redirect to current working directory. net config netconfig.txt notepad netconfig.txt But you have 2 items of interest there already. NwlnkIpx (0013d4162fa0) NwlnkNb (0013d4162fa0) http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-clean-up.html -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org.
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June 17th 07, 11:02 AM
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Sharing folders between XP & Vista
On Jun 17, 12:23 am, wrote:
On Jun 17, 12:21 am, Chuck wrote: On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 15:56:29 -0700, wrote: On Jun 16, 10:31 pm, Chuck wrote: On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 14:06:37 -0700, wrote: Apologies if I ramble incoherently - it will quickly become clear that I only just about understand what I'm talking about. We have an PC with XP SP2 We have just bought a laptop, with Vista, and a Belkin router. The router is currently between modem & PC - both ethernet connections; the laptop connects wirelessly It was easy to get the laptop to share the internet connection. After considerable playing about I managed to share the Documents folder on the laptop and have since mapped a drive on the PC to see the laptop Documents folder. However, the Vista laptop seems unable to access anything on the XP PC. In the network window, when you look at the full map it shows the Desktop connected via 'Switch' on the wireless network. But, I can't find a way of actually accessing shared folders on the PC. Any thoughts? I'd start by looking at both computers, personal firewalls on each, and the NetBT setting on each. http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-usi...http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...networking-usi... And you could describe exactly what you're observing when you "can't find a way of actually accessing shared folders on the PC.". http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-i...http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ation-useful-i... And you could look at logs from "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all", from each computer, and diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (download browstat!): http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighbo...http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...etwork-neighbo... -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. Thank you for your offer of assistance. I'll do my best to add detail. Firstly, I have a PC running Windows XP SP2. It is connected via ethernet to the Belkin 54g router which is in turn connected via ethernet to a cable modem. I also have a laptop running Windows Vista Home Basic. It is connected via an in-built network card to the same Belkin router. Both computers are able to access the internet via the router. I have set up a 'Home Network' workgroup, to which both computers are registered. Using the XP-PC, I am able to see several of the laptop's shared folders in my 'My Network Places' window, including 'Users' and 'Public' on the laptop. I have also used the 'Map Network Drive' function to assign the drive letter L: on the PC to access \\Laptop \Users\Michael which works well. From it, I am able to see my documents that are stored on the laptop On the laptop itself, the machine is registered to a Private Network. When looking at the full network map it shows (correctly in my opinion) the laptop being connected wirelessly to the Wireless network, which is in turn connected to the Internet. It also shows a 'Switch' coming from the Wirless network connected directly to the desktop PC. Double-clicking on the laptop icon brings up the drives on the laptop; it is not possible to double-clicking on the desktop PC icon. I have enabled 'Network Discovery', 'File sharing' and 'Public folder sharing' no the Vista laptop. I have disabled 'Password protected sharing' and have switched off all firewalls, including Windows Firewalls on both machines, and ZoneAlarm on the PC. When I select 'View Computers and devices' on the laptop, only the Laptop itself appears in the window. Hopefully this explains a bit better? I shall look at running the instructions you suggest and pasting the results here. Thanks again Michael Hi Michael, If you have ZoneAlarm on the problem computer, I'd get the instructions from Zone Labs for the right version, and un install it very carefully. Zone Alarm isn't as intrusive as Symantec, but it's a close second. Behind a NAT router, you're reasonably safe, if you practice layered security. http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/please-protect-yourself-layer-y...http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...urself-layer-y... -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. Ah, might that be the cause of the problem, even when switched off? Aha! Having uninstalled the link programme from the PC I can now see the PC from the laptop! Thank you! Still haven't quite understood how to run netconfig on Vista, but I presume that with the problem identified and resolved, that I won't need to reinstall that offending protocol? Thank you muchly for your assistance!
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Sharing folders between XP & Vista
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 04:02:43 -0700, wrote:
On Jun 17, 12:23 am, wrote: On Jun 17, 12:21 am, Chuck wrote: On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 15:56:29 -0700, wrote: On Jun 16, 10:31 pm, Chuck wrote: On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 14:06:37 -0700, wrote: Apologies if I ramble incoherently - it will quickly become clear that I only just about understand what I'm talking about. We have an PC with XP SP2 We have just bought a laptop, with Vista, and a Belkin router. The router is currently between modem & PC - both ethernet connections; the laptop connects wirelessly It was easy to get the laptop to share the internet connection. After considerable playing about I managed to share the Documents folder on the laptop and have since mapped a drive on the PC to see the laptop Documents folder. However, the Vista laptop seems unable to access anything on the XP PC. In the network window, when you look at the full map it shows the Desktop connected via 'Switch' on the wireless network. But, I can't find a way of actually accessing shared folders on the PC. Any thoughts? I'd start by looking at both computers, personal firewalls on each, and the NetBT setting on each. http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-usi...http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...networking-usi... And you could describe exactly what you're observing when you "can't find a way of actually accessing shared folders on the PC.". http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-i...http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ation-useful-i... And you could look at logs from "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all", from each computer, and diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (download browstat!): http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighbo...http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...etwork-neighbo... -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. Thank you for your offer of assistance. I'll do my best to add detail. Firstly, I have a PC running Windows XP SP2. It is connected via ethernet to the Belkin 54g router which is in turn connected via ethernet to a cable modem. I also have a laptop running Windows Vista Home Basic. It is connected via an in-built network card to the same Belkin router. Both computers are able to access the internet via the router. I have set up a 'Home Network' workgroup, to which both computers are registered. Using the XP-PC, I am able to see several of the laptop's shared folders in my 'My Network Places' window, including 'Users' and 'Public' on the laptop. I have also used the 'Map Network Drive' function to assign the drive letter L: on the PC to access \\Laptop \Users\Michael which works well. From it, I am able to see my documents that are stored on the laptop On the laptop itself, the machine is registered to a Private Network. When looking at the full network map it shows (correctly in my opinion) the laptop being connected wirelessly to the Wireless network, which is in turn connected to the Internet. It also shows a 'Switch' coming from the Wirless network connected directly to the desktop PC. Double-clicking on the laptop icon brings up the drives on the laptop; it is not possible to double-clicking on the desktop PC icon. I have enabled 'Network Discovery', 'File sharing' and 'Public folder sharing' no the Vista laptop. I have disabled 'Password protected sharing' and have switched off all firewalls, including Windows Firewalls on both machines, and ZoneAlarm on the PC. When I select 'View Computers and devices' on the laptop, only the Laptop itself appears in the window. Hopefully this explains a bit better? I shall look at running the instructions you suggest and pasting the results here. Thanks again Michael Hi Michael, If you have ZoneAlarm on the problem computer, I'd get the instructions from Zone Labs for the right version, and un install it very carefully. Zone Alarm isn't as intrusive as Symantec, but it's a close second. Behind a NAT router, you're reasonably safe, if you practice layered security. http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/please-protect-yourself-layer-y...http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...urself-layer-y... -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org. Ah, might that be the cause of the problem, even when switched off? Aha! Having uninstalled the link programme from the PC I can now see the PC from the laptop! Thank you! Still haven't quite understood how to run netconfig on Vista, but I presume that with the problem identified and resolved, that I won't need to reinstall that offending protocol? Thank you muchly for your assistance! If ZoneAlarm is what you uninstalled, then I'd say you should be OK. You have Windows Firewall to protect you, plus you're behind NAT. So I'd say that you're good to go. Glad that I was able to advise you successfully. 8-D -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org.
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