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Old June 18th 07, 01:13 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
nittanylion70
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Default Vista & XP Macines on Netwrok

I have a network at home. It has been working fine with all computers. I
added this new Vista machine. It sees all the machines including the
wireless laptop. All the hardwired units see the vista machine. The
wireless laptop does not see the Vista machine but sees all the other XP
machines. Disabled all firewalls, on vista machine with no change. Help!!!
Thanks!
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nittanylion70
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Old June 18th 07, 04:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Chuck
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On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 18:13:00 -0700, nittanylion70
wrote:

I have a network at home. It has been working fine with all computers. I
added this new Vista machine. It sees all the machines including the
wireless laptop. All the hardwired units see the vista machine. The
wireless laptop does not see the Vista machine but sees all the other XP
machines. Disabled all firewalls, on vista machine with no change. Help!!!
Thanks!


Let's look at logs from "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all", from each
computer, and diagnose the problem. Include at least the Vista computer, the
laptop, and one other computer. Read this article, and linked articles, and
follow instructions precisely (download browstat!):
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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Old June 18th 07, 07:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
John
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Check the user that's logged into each machine. Be sure that the user is the
same and is listed in the Vist and laptop. Be sure Network discovery and
file sharing are on in the Vista machine. Be sure the Vista shares can be
seen by any user. Sometimes it's tricky. I have had similar experiences and
just kept trying things. Also double-check netbios over tcpip is enabled on
both.


"nittanylion70" wrote in message
...
I have a network at home. It has been working fine with all computers. I
added this new Vista machine. It sees all the machines including the
wireless laptop. All the hardwired units see the vista machine. The
wireless laptop does not see the Vista machine but sees all the other XP
machines. Disabled all firewalls, on vista machine with no change.
Help!!!
Thanks!
--
nittanylion70



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Old June 19th 07, 12:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
nittanylion70
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I checked the Netbios over TCPIP and they are both OK. I do not understand
your point about listed users on the machines. It appears to be the wireless
connection. The hard wired 98 and XP machine both see the vista computer.
Either the XP wireless has a bad setting or Vista's paranoia is blocking the
wireless. So far I am underwhelmed with Vista.

Thanks for your help.
--
nittanylion70


"John" wrote:

Check the user that's logged into each machine. Be sure that the user is the
same and is listed in the Vist and laptop. Be sure Network discovery and
file sharing are on in the Vista machine. Be sure the Vista shares can be
seen by any user. Sometimes it's tricky. I have had similar experiences and
just kept trying things. Also double-check netbios over tcpip is enabled on
both.


"nittanylion70" wrote in message
...
I have a network at home. It has been working fine with all computers. I
added this new Vista machine. It sees all the machines including the
wireless laptop. All the hardwired units see the vista machine. The
wireless laptop does not see the Vista machine but sees all the other XP
machines. Disabled all firewalls, on vista machine with no change.
Help!!!
Thanks!
--
nittanylion70




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Old June 19th 07, 05:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
nittanylion70
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OK I know more things but I'm not sure I'm any closer.

I ran ipconfig/all and I got a summary - when I do step 2 to convert it to
txt it tells me access denied. I downloaded browstat and when I do the same
with browstat.txt is says access denied.

While reading your articles, I did the one in the registry about turning off
the DHCP broadcast flag and then rebooted. I could not see any machines from
the Vista machines and none of the other machine could see the vista machine.
I went back and took out the statement and it returned to 'normal' where I
the harwired machines all see everything but the wireless machine XP Pro sees
all but the Vista machine. I have a hardwired XP Pro machine and it sees the
Vista machine.

Sorry for not including the printouts of ipconfig and browstat.

--
nittanylion70


"Chuck" wrote:

On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 18:13:00 -0700, nittanylion70
wrote:

I have a network at home. It has been working fine with all computers. I
added this new Vista machine. It sees all the machines including the
wireless laptop. All the hardwired units see the vista machine. The
wireless laptop does not see the Vista machine but sees all the other XP
machines. Disabled all firewalls, on vista machine with no change. Help!!!
Thanks!


Let's look at logs from "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all", from each
computer, and diagnose the problem. Include at least the Vista computer, the
laptop, and one other computer. Read this article, and linked articles, and
follow instructions precisely (download browstat!):
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

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Old June 19th 07, 05:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Chuck
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On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:06:00 -0700, nittanylion70
wrote:

OK I know more things but I'm not sure I'm any closer.

I ran ipconfig/all and I got a summary - when I do step 2 to convert it to
txt it tells me access denied. I downloaded browstat and when I do the same
with browstat.txt is says access denied.

While reading your articles, I did the one in the registry about turning off
the DHCP broadcast flag and then rebooted. I could not see any machines from
the Vista machines and none of the other machine could see the vista machine.
I went back and took out the statement and it returned to 'normal' where I
the harwired machines all see everything but the wireless machine XP Pro sees
all but the Vista machine. I have a hardwired XP Pro machine and it sees the
Vista machine.

Sorry for not including the printouts of ipconfig and browstat.


It's OK, take it one step at a time.

There are two changes that you may need to make, when running browstat or
ipconfig, under Vista.
1) Run as administrator.
* Right Click on Command Prompt.
* Left click on Run as Administrator.
* Click the Allow button if it asks you for permission.
2) Instead of
browstat status c:\browstat.txt
notepad c:\browstat.txt
Try
browstat status browstat.txt
notepad browstat.txt

Now you need to diagnose the "DHCP Broadcast" setting by whether the computer
gets an IP address. If the IP address is "169.254.n.n", you have a problem and
the DHCP broadcast flag MAY be part of the problem. If the address is NOT
"169.254.n.n", you will have to look for another problem. Diagnose in layers
please.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-tutorial.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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Old June 19th 07, 07:11 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
nittanylion70
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OK - running as admin helped for ipconfig but did nothing for browstat. I
have attached the ipconfig below. I found in system32 folder teh browstat
text document and it was blank.

The IP address seems OK. All the below is from the vista machine.


Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mark-PC
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : wctel.net

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : wctel.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated
Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1A-A0-42-82-85
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::e0c0:1a62:f9de:568e%9(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.102(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, June 19, 2007 12:34:17 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, June 20, 2007 12:34:17 PM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 201333408
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 206.74.254.2
204.116.57.2
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . :
2001:0:4136:e390:1037:2b80:3f57:fe99(Preferred)
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::1037:2b80:3f57:fe99%8(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : wctel.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.wctel.net
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.1.102%10(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 206.74.254.2
204.116.57.2
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

--
nittanylion70


"Chuck" wrote:

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:06:00 -0700, nittanylion70
wrote:

OK I know more things but I'm not sure I'm any closer.

I ran ipconfig/all and I got a summary - when I do step 2 to convert it to
txt it tells me access denied. I downloaded browstat and when I do the same
with browstat.txt is says access denied.

While reading your articles, I did the one in the registry about turning off
the DHCP broadcast flag and then rebooted. I could not see any machines from
the Vista machines and none of the other machine could see the vista machine.
I went back and took out the statement and it returned to 'normal' where I
the harwired machines all see everything but the wireless machine XP Pro sees
all but the Vista machine. I have a hardwired XP Pro machine and it sees the
Vista machine.

Sorry for not including the printouts of ipconfig and browstat.


It's OK, take it one step at a time.

There are two changes that you may need to make, when running browstat or
ipconfig, under Vista.
1) Run as administrator.
* Right Click on Command Prompt.
* Left click on Run as Administrator.
* Click the Allow button if it asks you for permission.
2) Instead of
browstat status c:\browstat.txt
notepad c:\browstat.txt
Try
browstat status browstat.txt
notepad browstat.txt

Now you need to diagnose the "DHCP Broadcast" setting by whether the computer
gets an IP address. If the IP address is "169.254.n.n", you have a problem and
the DHCP broadcast flag MAY be part of the problem. If the address is NOT
"169.254.n.n", you will have to look for another problem. Diagnose in layers
please.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-tutorial.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

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Old June 19th 07, 07:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
nittanylion70
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Here is the IP config for the wireless laptop running XP Pro

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : DellLaptop
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : wctel.net

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : wctel.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200BG
Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-12-F0-42-CA-48
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 206.74.254.2
204.116.57.2
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, June 19, 2007 1:45:21 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, June 20, 2007 1:45:21
PM



--
nittanylion70


"Chuck" wrote:

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:06:00 -0700, nittanylion70
wrote:

OK I know more things but I'm not sure I'm any closer.

I ran ipconfig/all and I got a summary - when I do step 2 to convert it to
txt it tells me access denied. I downloaded browstat and when I do the same
with browstat.txt is says access denied.

While reading your articles, I did the one in the registry about turning off
the DHCP broadcast flag and then rebooted. I could not see any machines from
the Vista machines and none of the other machine could see the vista machine.
I went back and took out the statement and it returned to 'normal' where I
the harwired machines all see everything but the wireless machine XP Pro sees
all but the Vista machine. I have a hardwired XP Pro machine and it sees the
Vista machine.

Sorry for not including the printouts of ipconfig and browstat.


It's OK, take it one step at a time.

There are two changes that you may need to make, when running browstat or
ipconfig, under Vista.
1) Run as administrator.
* Right Click on Command Prompt.
* Left click on Run as Administrator.
* Click the Allow button if it asks you for permission.
2) Instead of
browstat status c:\browstat.txt
notepad c:\browstat.txt
Try
browstat status browstat.txt
notepad browstat.txt

Now you need to diagnose the "DHCP Broadcast" setting by whether the computer
gets an IP address. If the IP address is "169.254.n.n", you have a problem and
the DHCP broadcast flag MAY be part of the problem. If the address is NOT
"169.254.n.n", you will have to look for another problem. Diagnose in layers
please.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-tutorial.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

 




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