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July 20th 07, 01:58 AM
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Cannot see WinXP computer in workgroup
I have just configured two laptops to be on our network workgroup, HOUSE
(network name changed to protect the innocent). Both laptops are Sony Vaios, one running Windows Vista Basic Business, and the other (this one) running Vista Home. The one desktop in the house belongs to my father, and runs Win XP, and is going to stay that way - the man's 84 years old, and he's not about to change his ways. Anyway, I had no trouble setting up the Vista Business laptop to see the network and the workgroup HOUSE. But that one belongs to his girlfriend (who is 5 years my junior...but I digress). Naturally, I would like my OWN laptop to also see the entire workgroup as well. But try as I might, I cannot get it to see the Win XP desktop. It can get on the Internet just fine, but it cannot see the WinXP machine for file and printer sharing purposes. Interestingly, when I type \\STUXP at the RUN prompt, I DO see the shared folders and the printer on my dad's desktop. But I cannot get it to show up in the View Other Computers In The Workgroup folder. Please help. 
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July 20th 07, 03:37 AM
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Cannot see WinXP computer in workgroup
You may want to install LLTD Responder. These search results may help,
Vista can't see XP on ...The information posted above actually does not respond to the "XP can't see Vista network map" issue -- it actually responds to the "Vista can't see XP on ... http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums...opic.php?t=236 - Similar pages Vista cannot access others Post Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:11 pm Post subject: Vista: can't see XP ... Both of the xp machines can address each other using \\machinename but the . ... http://www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistaaccess1.htm Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com "Jim Speiser" wrote in message ... I have just configured two laptops to be on our network workgroup, HOUSE (network name changed to protect the innocent). Both laptops are Sony Vaios, one running Windows Vista Basic Business, and the other (this one) running Vista Home. The one desktop in the house belongs to my father, and runs Win XP, and is going to stay that way - the man's 84 years old, and he's not about to change his ways. Anyway, I had no trouble setting up the Vista Business laptop to see the network and the workgroup HOUSE. But that one belongs to his girlfriend (who is 5 years my junior...but I digress). Naturally, I would like my OWN laptop to also see the entire workgroup as well. But try as I might, I cannot get it to see the Win XP desktop. It can get on the Internet just fine, but it cannot see the WinXP machine for file and printer sharing purposes. Interestingly, when I type \\STUXP at the RUN prompt, I DO see the shared folders and the printer on my dad's desktop. But I cannot get it to show up in the View Other Computers In The Workgroup folder. Please help.
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July 20th 07, 05:47 AM
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Cannot see WinXP computer in workgroup
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:58:03 -0700, Jim Speiser
wrote: I have just configured two laptops to be on our network workgroup, HOUSE (network name changed to protect the innocent). Both laptops are Sony Vaios, one running Windows Vista Basic Business, and the other (this one) running Vista Home. The one desktop in the house belongs to my father, and runs Win XP, and is going to stay that way - the man's 84 years old, and he's not about to change his ways. Anyway, I had no trouble setting up the Vista Business laptop to see the network and the workgroup HOUSE. But that one belongs to his girlfriend (who is 5 years my junior...but I digress). Naturally, I would like my OWN laptop to also see the entire workgroup as well. But try as I might, I cannot get it to see the Win XP desktop. It can get on the Internet just fine, but it cannot see the WinXP machine for file and printer sharing purposes. Interestingly, when I type \\STUXP at the RUN prompt, I DO see the shared folders and the printer on my dad's desktop. But I cannot get it to show up in the View Other Computers In The Workgroup folder. Please help. This will generally be a personal firewall or NetBT issue. http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...ing-using.html You might look at logs from "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all", from each computer, and diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (download browstat!): http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org.
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July 20th 07, 06:06 AM
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Cannot see WinXP computer in workgroup
Well, you won't believe it, but this problem was resolved by turning ON a
firewall. The new Vista Home laptop had Norton running with a firewall, and Windows Firewall turned off. I turned off the Norton Firewall, so that I had NO firewalls running, and nothing happened. Then I turned ON the Windows Firewall, making sure the settings would allow discovery and file and printer sharing, and voila! The XP computer became visible. I do not pretend to understand this (I haven't actually understood operating systems since DOS 6.0) but I won't argue with it. OK, maybe...could it have anything to do with "browsing", an old NT term I remember? I seem to recall it sometimes taking up to 15 minutes to show a newly-turned-on computer in the network map? In any case, thanks for everyone's help. ==JJS== "Chuck [MVP]" wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:58:03 -0700, Jim Speiser wrote: I have just configured two laptops to be on our network workgroup, HOUSE (network name changed to protect the innocent). Both laptops are Sony Vaios, one running Windows Vista Basic Business, and the other (this one) running Vista Home. The one desktop in the house belongs to my father, and runs Win XP, and is going to stay that way - the man's 84 years old, and he's not about to change his ways. Anyway, I had no trouble setting up the Vista Business laptop to see the network and the workgroup HOUSE. But that one belongs to his girlfriend (who is 5 years my junior...but I digress). Naturally, I would like my OWN laptop to also see the entire workgroup as well. But try as I might, I cannot get it to see the Win XP desktop. It can get on the Internet just fine, but it cannot see the WinXP machine for file and printer sharing purposes. Interestingly, when I type \\STUXP at the RUN prompt, I DO see the shared folders and the printer on my dad's desktop. But I cannot get it to show up in the View Other Computers In The Workgroup folder. Please help. This will generally be a personal firewall or NetBT issue. http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...ing-using.html You might look at logs from "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all", from each computer, and diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (download browstat!): http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org.
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July 20th 07, 07:09 AM
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Windows Firewall by default allows outbound connections. Norton, your prior personal firewall, does not provide that same global approach.
Norton usually requires an exception rule(s) to allow communication to the networked XP unit(s) Turning off the Norton Firewall may not free up outbound to other XP units on the network. Chuck's links included a link to this handy explanation of personal firewall issues/requirements. http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ther-help.html ....winston MS-MVP WLM "Jim Speiser" wrote in message ... : Well, you won't believe it, but this problem was resolved by turning ON a : firewall. The new Vista Home laptop had Norton running with a firewall, and : Windows Firewall turned off. I turned off the Norton Firewall, so that I had : NO firewalls running, and nothing happened. Then I turned ON the Windows : Firewall, making sure the settings would allow discovery and file and printer : sharing, and voila! The XP computer became visible. : : I do not pretend to understand this (I haven't actually understood operating : systems since DOS 6.0) but I won't argue with it. : : OK, maybe...could it have anything to do with "browsing", an old NT term I : remember? I seem to recall it sometimes taking up to 15 minutes to show a : newly-turned-on computer in the network map? : : In any case, thanks for everyone's help. : : ==JJS== : : "Chuck [MVP]" wrote: : : On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:58:03 -0700, Jim Speiser : wrote: : : I have just configured two laptops to be on our network workgroup, HOUSE : (network name changed to protect the innocent). Both laptops are Sony Vaios, : one running Windows Vista Basic Business, and the other (this one) running : Vista Home. The one desktop in the house belongs to my father, and runs Win : XP, and is going to stay that way - the man's 84 years old, and he's not : about to change his ways. Anyway, I had no trouble setting up the Vista : Business laptop to see the network and the workgroup HOUSE. But that one : belongs to his girlfriend (who is 5 years my junior...but I digress). : Naturally, I would like my OWN laptop to also see the entire workgroup as : well. But try as I might, I cannot get it to see the Win XP desktop. It can : get on the Internet just fine, but it cannot see the WinXP machine for file : and printer sharing purposes. : : Interestingly, when I type \\STUXP at the RUN prompt, I DO see the shared : folders and the printer on my dad's desktop. But I cannot get it to show up : in the View Other Computers In The Workgroup folder. : : Please help. : : This will generally be a personal firewall or NetBT issue. : http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html : http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...ing-using.html : : You might look at logs from "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all", from each : computer, and diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked articles, and : follow instructions precisely (download browstat!): : http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp : http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp : : -- : Cheers, : Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking] : http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ : Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. : My email is AT DOT : actual address pchuck mvps org. :
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