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Multiple & simultaneous SSIDs: "ghosts" in the machine?
I have a new Vista machine connected to Linksys router. I have established
"secure" wireless network after a few failed attempts. The router manufacture says no way can a router broadcast multiple SSIDs simultaneously. I have done all master resets and manage the router via web utility. Why can Vista still see "ghosts" (unique SSIDs I created previously) that I don't believe exist. I have a "radar" utility from Toshiba that also sees those previous SSIDs as active. I have deleted those router profiles in the network management utilities in Vista. Any thoughts? -- -b- |
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Multiple & simultaneous SSIDs: "ghosts" in the machine?
network and sharing center
manage wireless networks on left highlight/click what you want to remove and click remove along the top Vista remembers what you have previously connected to for convenience. The ghosts don't show a signal strength. this is good for travelers who utilize one or more of the big national wifi providers, but not as good for someone doing what you are doing. On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 22:36:00 -0700, -b- wrote: I have a new Vista machine connected to Linksys router. I have established "secure" wireless network after a few failed attempts. The router manufacture says no way can a router broadcast multiple SSIDs simultaneously. I have done all master resets and manage the router via web utility. Why can Vista still see "ghosts" (unique SSIDs I created previously) that I don't believe exist. I have a "radar" utility from Toshiba that also sees those previous SSIDs as active. I have deleted those router profiles in the network management utilities in Vista. Any thoughts? -- Barb Bowman MS Windows-MVP http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/ |
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Multiple & simultaneous SSIDs: "ghosts" in the machine?
Thanks for the input. But the ghosts DO show signal strength, channel, radio
type, and type of connection-- that's what is so confounding. With the radar utility I can also see an identifier such as "99-99-e9-99-9d-99" as well as infrastructure (GHz and channel). Any more thoughts or suggestions? Regards, -b- "Barb Bowman" wrote: network and sharing center manage wireless networks on left highlight/click what you want to remove and click remove along the top Vista remembers what you have previously connected to for convenience. The ghosts don't show a signal strength. this is good for travelers who utilize one or more of the big national wifi providers, but not as good for someone doing what you are doing. On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 22:36:00 -0700, -b- wrote: I have a new Vista machine connected to Linksys router. I have established "secure" wireless network after a few failed attempts. The router manufacture says no way can a router broadcast multiple SSIDs simultaneously. I have done all master resets and manage the router via web utility. Why can Vista still see "ghosts" (unique SSIDs I created previously) that I don't believe exist. I have a "radar" utility from Toshiba that also sees those previous SSIDs as active. I have deleted those router profiles in the network management utilities in Vista. Any thoughts? -- Barb Bowman MS Windows-MVP http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/ |
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Multiple & simultaneous SSIDs: "ghosts" in the machine?
windows doesn't show the channel (I wish it did, but that's a
different issue). I assume this is a laptop since you mention toshiba. what happens if you drive three miles from home, shut down and restart? what shows up? what shows up when you get home? On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:02:01 -0700, -b- wrote: Thanks for the input. But the ghosts DO show signal strength, channel, radio type, and type of connection-- that's what is so confounding. With the radar utility I can also see an identifier such as "99-99-e9-99-9d-99" as well as infrastructure (GHz and channel). Any more thoughts or suggestions? Regards, -b- "Barb Bowman" wrote: network and sharing center manage wireless networks on left highlight/click what you want to remove and click remove along the top Vista remembers what you have previously connected to for convenience. The ghosts don't show a signal strength. this is good for travelers who utilize one or more of the big national wifi providers, but not as good for someone doing what you are doing. On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 22:36:00 -0700, -b- wrote: I have a new Vista machine connected to Linksys router. I have established "secure" wireless network after a few failed attempts. The router manufacture says no way can a router broadcast multiple SSIDs simultaneously. I have done all master resets and manage the router via web utility. Why can Vista still see "ghosts" (unique SSIDs I created previously) that I don't believe exist. I have a "radar" utility from Toshiba that also sees those previous SSIDs as active. I have deleted those router profiles in the network management utilities in Vista. Any thoughts? -- Barb Bowman MS Windows-MVP http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/ -- Barb Bowman MS Windows-MVP http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/ |
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Multiple & simultaneous SSIDs: "ghosts" in the machine?
Hello.
I took the laptop outside the range of the router, shut down and restarted. I only saw the available networks over at my relative's house (and their naighbor's). When I got home, the ghosts re-emerged upon startup. I'm not sure what's going on. I have a reliable wireless connection on the "secure" profile and will only connect to that network. Also, I configured the router to recognize only my wireless client MAC address-- thinking about security (although MACs can be cloned). Anyway, I guess I'll just have to live with it. It's kinda-like that fly buzzing around the room... no real threat, but bothersome as heck! Regards, -b- "Barb Bowman" wrote: windows doesn't show the channel (I wish it did, but that's a different issue). I assume this is a laptop since you mention toshiba. what happens if you drive three miles from home, shut down and restart? what shows up? what shows up when you get home? On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:02:01 -0700, -b- wrote: Thanks for the input. But the ghosts DO show signal strength, channel, radio type, and type of connection-- that's what is so confounding. With the radar utility I can also see an identifier such as "99-99-e9-99-9d-99" as well as infrastructure (GHz and channel). Any more thoughts or suggestions? Regards, -b- "Barb Bowman" wrote: network and sharing center manage wireless networks on left highlight/click what you want to remove and click remove along the top Vista remembers what you have previously connected to for convenience. The ghosts don't show a signal strength. this is good for travelers who utilize one or more of the big national wifi providers, but not as good for someone doing what you are doing. On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 22:36:00 -0700, -b- wrote: I have a new Vista machine connected to Linksys router. I have established "secure" wireless network after a few failed attempts. The router manufacture says no way can a router broadcast multiple SSIDs simultaneously. I have done all master resets and manage the router via web utility. Why can Vista still see "ghosts" (unique SSIDs I created previously) that I don't believe exist. I have a "radar" utility from Toshiba that also sees those previous SSIDs as active. I have deleted those router profiles in the network management utilities in Vista. Any thoughts? -- Barb Bowman MS Windows-MVP http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/ -- Barb Bowman MS Windows-MVP http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/ |
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Multiple & simultaneous SSIDs: "ghosts" in the machine?
are you using WPA/WPA2? or WEP?
I know some Cisco products have some strange phantoms when you cut and paste MAC addresses into the config. Do you have the latest firmware for your router? I'd almost suggest loading the latest firmware, doing a factory reset of the router and trying WPA/WPA2 only to see if the issue is resolve. On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:44:01 -0700, -b- wrote: Hello. I took the laptop outside the range of the router, shut down and restarted. I only saw the available networks over at my relative's house (and their naighbor's). When I got home, the ghosts re-emerged upon startup. I'm not sure what's going on. I have a reliable wireless connection on the "secure" profile and will only connect to that network. Also, I configured the router to recognize only my wireless client MAC address-- thinking about security (although MACs can be cloned). Anyway, I guess I'll just have to live with it. It's kinda-like that fly buzzing around the room... no real threat, but bothersome as heck! Regards, -b- "Barb Bowman" wrote: windows doesn't show the channel (I wish it did, but that's a different issue). I assume this is a laptop since you mention toshiba. what happens if you drive three miles from home, shut down and restart? what shows up? what shows up when you get home? On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:02:01 -0700, -b- wrote: Thanks for the input. But the ghosts DO show signal strength, channel, radio type, and type of connection-- that's what is so confounding. With the radar utility I can also see an identifier such as "99-99-e9-99-9d-99" as well as infrastructure (GHz and channel). Any more thoughts or suggestions? Regards, -b- "Barb Bowman" wrote: network and sharing center manage wireless networks on left highlight/click what you want to remove and click remove along the top Vista remembers what you have previously connected to for convenience. The ghosts don't show a signal strength. this is good for travelers who utilize one or more of the big national wifi providers, but not as good for someone doing what you are doing. On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 22:36:00 -0700, -b- wrote: I have a new Vista machine connected to Linksys router. I have established "secure" wireless network after a few failed attempts. The router manufacture says no way can a router broadcast multiple SSIDs simultaneously. I have done all master resets and manage the router via web utility. Why can Vista still see "ghosts" (unique SSIDs I created previously) that I don't believe exist. I have a "radar" utility from Toshiba that also sees those previous SSIDs as active. I have deleted those router profiles in the network management utilities in Vista. Any thoughts? -- Barb Bowman MS Windows-MVP http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/ -- Barb Bowman MS Windows-MVP http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/ -- Barb Bowman MS Windows-MVP http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/ |
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Multiple & simultaneous SSIDs: "ghosts" in the machine?
Yes, I have run the latest firmware and reset the cisco router several
times. I am, however, using WEP per their tech support reccomendation. I think I will try resetting again, and changing to WPA. Thanks for the suggestion. -- -b- "Barb Bowman" wrote: are you using WPA/WPA2? or WEP? I know some Cisco products have some strange phantoms when you cut and paste MAC addresses into the config. Do you have the latest firmware for your router? I'd almost suggest loading the latest firmware, doing a factory reset of the router and trying WPA/WPA2 only to see if the issue is resolve. On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:44:01 -0700, -b- wrote: Hello. I took the laptop outside the range of the router, shut down and restarted. I only saw the available networks over at my relative's house (and their naighbor's). When I got home, the ghosts re-emerged upon startup. I'm not sure what's going on. I have a reliable wireless connection on the "secure" profile and will only connect to that network. Also, I configured the router to recognize only my wireless client MAC address-- thinking about security (although MACs can be cloned). Anyway, I guess I'll just have to live with it. It's kinda-like that fly buzzing around the room... no real threat, but bothersome as heck! Regards, -b- "Barb Bowman" wrote: windows doesn't show the channel (I wish it did, but that's a different issue). I assume this is a laptop since you mention toshiba. what happens if you drive three miles from home, shut down and restart? what shows up? what shows up when you get home? On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:02:01 -0700, -b- wrote: Thanks for the input. But the ghosts DO show signal strength, channel, radio type, and type of connection-- that's what is so confounding. With the radar utility I can also see an identifier such as "99-99-e9-99-9d-99" as well as infrastructure (GHz and channel). Any more thoughts or suggestions? Regards, -b- "Barb Bowman" wrote: network and sharing center manage wireless networks on left highlight/click what you want to remove and click remove along the top Vista remembers what you have previously connected to for convenience. The ghosts don't show a signal strength. this is good for travelers who utilize one or more of the big national wifi providers, but not as good for someone doing what you are doing. On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 22:36:00 -0700, -b- wrote: I have a new Vista machine connected to Linksys router. I have established "secure" wireless network after a few failed attempts. The router manufacture says no way can a router broadcast multiple SSIDs simultaneously. I have done all master resets and manage the router via web utility. Why can Vista still see "ghosts" (unique SSIDs I created previously) that I don't believe exist. I have a "radar" utility from Toshiba that also sees those previous SSIDs as active. I have deleted those router profiles in the network management utilities in Vista. Any thoughts? -- Barb Bowman MS Windows-MVP http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/ -- Barb Bowman MS Windows-MVP http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/ -- Barb Bowman MS Windows-MVP http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/ |
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Multiple & simultaneous SSIDs: "ghosts" in the machine?
I am having the EXACT same issue with my linksys router that I'm connecting
to wirelessly from my laptop... everything, right down to identifying the problem as a "ghost in the machine" myself for lack of anything else to call it and stumbling upon this thread. I went into my router configuration and changed the name of my SSID and it's still reading the "ghost" profile as well. This profile is apparently connectable but gives me no Internet access (which is a good thing). Not really that troublesome, but I'm very curious to know what in the world is going on. Just wondering if you'd had any success in resolving this on your end. --Tim "-b-" wrote: Yes, I have run the latest firmware and reset the cisco router several times. I am, however, using WEP per their tech support reccomendation. I think I will try resetting again, and changing to WPA. Thanks for the suggestion. -- -b- "Barb Bowman" wrote: are you using WPA/WPA2? or WEP? I know some Cisco products have some strange phantoms when you cut and paste MAC addresses into the config. Do you have the latest firmware for your router? I'd almost suggest loading the latest firmware, doing a factory reset of the router and trying WPA/WPA2 only to see if the issue is resolve. On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:44:01 -0700, -b- wrote: Hello. I took the laptop outside the range of the router, shut down and restarted. I only saw the available networks over at my relative's house (and their naighbor's). When I got home, the ghosts re-emerged upon startup. I'm not sure what's going on. I have a reliable wireless connection on the "secure" profile and will only connect to that network. Also, I configured the router to recognize only my wireless client MAC address-- thinking about security (although MACs can be cloned). Anyway, I guess I'll just have to live with it. It's kinda-like that fly buzzing around the room... no real threat, but bothersome as heck! Regards, -b- "Barb Bowman" wrote: windows doesn't show the channel (I wish it did, but that's a different issue). I assume this is a laptop since you mention toshiba. what happens if you drive three miles from home, shut down and restart? what shows up? what shows up when you get home? On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:02:01 -0700, -b- wrote: Thanks for the input. But the ghosts DO show signal strength, channel, radio type, and type of connection-- that's what is so confounding. With the radar utility I can also see an identifier such as "99-99-e9-99-9d-99" as well as infrastructure (GHz and channel). Any more thoughts or suggestions? Regards, -b- "Barb Bowman" wrote: network and sharing center manage wireless networks on left highlight/click what you want to remove and click remove along the top Vista remembers what you have previously connected to for convenience. The ghosts don't show a signal strength. this is good for travelers who utilize one or more of the big national wifi providers, but not as good for someone doing what you are doing. On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 22:36:00 -0700, -b- wrote: I have a new Vista machine connected to Linksys router. I have established "secure" wireless network after a few failed attempts. The router manufacture says no way can a router broadcast multiple SSIDs simultaneously. I have done all master resets and manage the router via web utility. Why can Vista still see "ghosts" (unique SSIDs I created previously) that I don't believe exist. I have a "radar" utility from Toshiba that also sees those previous SSIDs as active. I have deleted those router profiles in the network management utilities in Vista. Any thoughts? -- Barb Bowman MS Windows-MVP http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/ -- Barb Bowman MS Windows-MVP http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/ -- Barb Bowman MS Windows-MVP http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/ |
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Multiple & simultaneous SSIDs: "ghosts" in the machine?
what Linksys model number and hardware revision? what firmware?
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 19:10:01 -0700, Tim Capel Tim wrote: I am having the EXACT same issue with my linksys router that I'm connecting to wirelessly from my laptop... everything, right down to identifying the problem as a "ghost in the machine" myself for lack of anything else to call it and stumbling upon this thread. I went into my router configuration and changed the name of my SSID and it's still reading the "ghost" profile as well. This profile is apparently connectable but gives me no Internet access (which is a good thing). Not really that troublesome, but I'm very curious to know what in the world is going on. Just wondering if you'd had any success in resolving this on your end. --Tim -- Barb Bowman MS Windows-MVP http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/ |
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Multiple & simultaneous SSIDs: "ghosts" in the machine?
I still have not been able to resolve this. I have installed the latest
firmware from Linksys and reset the router, but am still seeing the previous profiles as well as the default SSID. I think the problem is the router and not Vista. Best of luck resolving the problem. Please post if you find a solution. -- -b- "Tim Capel" wrote: I am having the EXACT same issue with my linksys router that I'm connecting to wirelessly from my laptop... everything, right down to identifying the problem as a "ghost in the machine" myself for lack of anything else to call it and stumbling upon this thread. I went into my router configuration and changed the name of my SSID and it's still reading the "ghost" profile as well. This profile is apparently connectable but gives me no Internet access (which is a good thing). Not really that troublesome, but I'm very curious to know what in the world is going on. Just wondering if you'd had any success in resolving this on your end. --Tim "-b-" wrote: Yes, I have run the latest firmware and reset the cisco router several times. I am, however, using WEP per their tech support reccomendation. I think I will try resetting again, and changing to WPA. Thanks for the suggestion. -- -b- "Barb Bowman" wrote: are you using WPA/WPA2? or WEP? I know some Cisco products have some strange phantoms when you cut and paste MAC addresses into the config. Do you have the latest firmware for your router? I'd almost suggest loading the latest firmware, doing a factory reset of the router and trying WPA/WPA2 only to see if the issue is resolve. On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:44:01 -0700, -b- wrote: Hello. I took the laptop outside the range of the router, shut down and restarted. I only saw the available networks over at my relative's house (and their naighbor's). When I got home, the ghosts re-emerged upon startup. I'm not sure what's going on. I have a reliable wireless connection on the "secure" profile and will only connect to that network. Also, I configured the router to recognize only my wireless client MAC address-- thinking about security (although MACs can be cloned). Anyway, I guess I'll just have to live with it. It's kinda-like that fly buzzing around the room... no real threat, but bothersome as heck! Regards, -b- "Barb Bowman" wrote: windows doesn't show the channel (I wish it did, but that's a different issue). I assume this is a laptop since you mention toshiba. what happens if you drive three miles from home, shut down and restart? what shows up? what shows up when you get home? On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:02:01 -0700, -b- wrote: Thanks for the input. But the ghosts DO show signal strength, channel, radio type, and type of connection-- that's what is so confounding. With the radar utility I can also see an identifier such as "99-99-e9-99-9d-99" as well as infrastructure (GHz and channel). Any more thoughts or suggestions? Regards, -b- "Barb Bowman" wrote: network and sharing center manage wireless networks on left highlight/click what you want to remove and click remove along the top Vista remembers what you have previously connected to for convenience. The ghosts don't show a signal strength. this is good for travelers who utilize one or more of the big national wifi providers, but not as good for someone doing what you are doing. On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 22:36:00 -0700, -b- wrote: I have a new Vista machine connected to Linksys router. I have established "secure" wireless network after a few failed attempts. The router manufacture says no way can a router broadcast multiple SSIDs simultaneously. I have done all master resets and manage the router via web utility. Why can Vista still see "ghosts" (unique SSIDs I created previously) that I don't believe exist. I have a "radar" utility from Toshiba that also sees those previous SSIDs as active. I have deleted those router profiles in the network management utilities in Vista. Any thoughts? -- Barb Bowman MS Windows-MVP http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/ -- Barb Bowman MS Windows-MVP http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/ -- Barb Bowman MS Windows-MVP http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/ |