I cannot believe how difficult it has turned out for me to network my
original XP SP2 desktop with my new Vista Business laptop.

This issue seems ABSOLUTELY illogical, and totally unneccessary. I feel that
it is Microsofts DUTY to manufacture a comprehensive fix that allows these
two OS's to communicate.

I have been trying reccomendation after reccomendation to try and resolve
the problem but alas to no avail. HAving to wait 15 mins for the XP system to
show up in network connections? WHAT A CROCK!

It infuriates me that when developing the Vista OS that the immediate
connectivity between it and XP wasn't considered. It seems totally
incompetant. Not only that, but for me upgrading my XP system to Vista is not
an option because that system is totally stable... if it ain't broke, why the
hell fix it?!

I simply want the two OSs to communicate. You would imagine that after years
and years of networking being an integral part of using computers that the
whole process would be simple by now. This isn't bloody 1995!

We all share your pain. Maybe Vista will die a slow death and we'll live
with XP for many more years. Vista Business (I have it too) has so may
places to adjust things and I have learned the right hand program, like
Firewall, doesn't know what the left hand program, Group Policy editor, is
doing.

Maybe you can strip all but the basic TCP/IP protocols away and see if that
doesn't speed things up. I wish I had the answer because my XP and Vista
machines suffer the same afliction as yours.


"Mister Furious" Mister wrote in message
news
I cannot believe how difficult it has turned out for me to network my
original XP SP2 desktop with my new Vista Business laptop.

This issue seems ABSOLUTELY illogical, and totally unneccessary. I feel
that
it is Microsofts DUTY to manufacture a comprehensive fix that allows these
two OS's to communicate.

I have been trying reccomendation after reccomendation to try and resolve
the problem but alas to no avail. HAving to wait 15 mins for the XP system
to
show up in network connections? WHAT A CROCK!

It infuriates me that when developing the Vista OS that the immediate
connectivity between it and XP wasn't considered. It seems totally
incompetant. Not only that, but for me upgrading my XP system to Vista is
not
an option because that system is totally stable... if it ain't broke, why
the
hell fix it?!

I simply want the two OSs to communicate. You would imagine that after
years
and years of networking being an integral part of using computers that the
whole process would be simple by now. This isn't bloody 1995!

I'm really sorry you are having so much trouble and I don't really know why.
I have Vista Home Premium and have networked with 2 XP pro systems with no
problems
at all. I can share folders and printers. I had the network with the XP's
first and I just connected the Vista and set file shariing, shared printing,
and network discovery. I have since connected a Vista Ultimate with the same
result. I'm only responding to let you know that Vista, by itself, isn't
inherently unable to network with XP.
--
Paul


"John" wrote:

We all share your pain. Maybe Vista will die a slow death and we'll live
with XP for many more years. Vista Business (I have it too) has so may
places to adjust things and I have learned the right hand program, like
Firewall, doesn't know what the left hand program, Group Policy editor, is
doing.

Maybe you can strip all but the basic TCP/IP protocols away and see if that
doesn't speed things up. I wish I had the answer because my XP and Vista
machines suffer the same afliction as yours.


"Mister Furious" Mister wrote in message
news
I cannot believe how difficult it has turned out for me to network my
original XP SP2 desktop with my new Vista Business laptop.

This issue seems ABSOLUTELY illogical, and totally unneccessary. I feel
that
it is Microsofts DUTY to manufacture a comprehensive fix that allows these
two OS's to communicate.

I have been trying reccomendation after reccomendation to try and resolve
the problem but alas to no avail. HAving to wait 15 mins for the XP system
to
show up in network connections? WHAT A CROCK!

It infuriates me that when developing the Vista OS that the immediate
connectivity between it and XP wasn't considered. It seems totally
incompetant. Not only that, but for me upgrading my XP system to Vista is
not
an option because that system is totally stable... if it ain't broke, why
the
hell fix it?!

I simply want the two OSs to communicate. You would imagine that after
years
and years of networking being an integral part of using computers that the
whole process would be simple by now. This isn't bloody 1995!

i still didnt get the networking between my vista and my other 2 xps
to work:cry:, no matter what i do i can not see either pc on vista
networking or vice versa, even disabled firewalls and all but nothing
shows. maybe someone has found new tricks?


--
NaDaGa

I keep trying to loose wight , but it always finds me

PaulB wrote:
I'm really sorry you are having so much trouble and I don't really know why.
I have Vista Home Premium and have networked with 2 XP pro systems with no
problems
at all. I can share folders and printers. I had the network with the XP's
first and I just connected the Vista and set file shariing, shared printing,
and network discovery. I have since connected a Vista Ultimate with the same
result. I'm only responding to let you know that Vista, by itself, isn't
inherently unable to network with XP.

aol me too /aol

I have no problems with Ultimate at home connecting to 2x Win XP and a
Win server going through a router or Business at work connecting to all
manner of machines remotely going through Bluecoat firewall.

At home I share the printer on the Vista box and the other 3 PCs can see
and use it. All shares across all the 3 PCs are accessible from all
boxes and apart from RDP to the server being slow I have no networking
problems.

The only thing I can't get working again since re-imaging is the network
map on the Vista client.

"PaulB" wrote in message
...
I'm really sorry you are having so much trouble and I don't really know
why.
I have Vista Home Premium and have networked with 2 XP pro systems with no
problems
at all. I can share folders and printers. I had the network with the XP's
first and I just connected the Vista and set file shariing, shared
printing,
and network discovery. I have since connected a Vista Ultimate with the
same
result. I'm only responding to let you know that Vista, by itself, isn't
inherently unable to network with XP.
--
Paul

Paul..........

Great for you! It's not that I don't believe you, it's just
that................

Most of us with XP/Vista networks have done exactly as you, then more, then
resorted to MVP advice, and on and on. Nada. My network works fine, if I
use only Vista's Public Folder! Printer sharing is fine and Vista to XP
works. But XP to Vista for file sharing: No Way.

I'm sure it was easy for you to just hook up your Vista system and do the
little things you stated above, and it worked. Sure, Paul.

EW

I have a new Vista Home Premium laptop that can see my tower's XP SP2
machine just fine. Prints to the printers connected to that machine just
fine.

But... I can't get the XP machine to see the Vista machine. On the Vista
machine Discovery is on, sharing is on. Workgroup name is the same. Any
ideas?


"PaulB" wrote in message
...
I'm really sorry you are having so much trouble and I don't really know
why.


I have Vista Home Premium and have networked with 2 XP pro systems with no
problems
at all. I can share folders and printers. I had the network with the XP's
first and I just connected the Vista and set file shariing, shared
printing,
and network discovery. I have since connected a Vista Ultimate with the
same
result. I'm only responding to let you know that Vista, by itself, isn't
inherently unable to network with XP.
--
Paul


"John" wrote:

We all share your pain. Maybe Vista will die a slow death and we'll live
with XP for many more years. Vista Business (I have it too) has so may
places to adjust things and I have learned the right hand program, like
Firewall, doesn't know what the left hand program, Group Policy editor,
is
doing.

Maybe you can strip all but the basic TCP/IP protocols away and see if
that
doesn't speed things up. I wish I had the answer because my XP and Vista
machines suffer the same afliction as yours.


"Mister Furious" Mister wrote in
message
news
I cannot believe how difficult it has turned out for me to network my
original XP SP2 desktop with my new Vista Business laptop.

This issue seems ABSOLUTELY illogical, and totally unneccessary. I feel
that
it is Microsofts DUTY to manufacture a comprehensive fix that allows
these
two OS's to communicate.

I have been trying reccomendation after reccomendation to try and
resolve
the problem but alas to no avail. HAving to wait 15 mins for the XP
system
to
show up in network connections? WHAT A CROCK!

It infuriates me that when developing the Vista OS that the immediate
connectivity between it and XP wasn't considered. It seems totally
incompetant. Not only that, but for me upgrading my XP system to Vista
is
not
an option because that system is totally stable... if it ain't broke,
why
the
hell fix it?!

I simply want the two OSs to communicate. You would imagine that after
years
and years of networking being an integral part of using computers that
the
whole process would be simple by now. This isn't bloody 1995!

My XP/Vista Network works perfectly!

"Mister Furious" wrote:

I cannot believe how difficult it has turned out for me to network my
original XP SP2 desktop with my new Vista Business laptop.

This issue seems ABSOLUTELY illogical, and totally unneccessary. I feel that
it is Microsofts DUTY to manufacture a comprehensive fix that allows these
two OS's to communicate.

I have been trying reccomendation after reccomendation to try and resolve
the problem but alas to no avail. HAving to wait 15 mins for the XP system to
show up in network connections? WHAT A CROCK!

It infuriates me that when developing the Vista OS that the immediate
connectivity between it and XP wasn't considered. It seems totally
incompetant. Not only that, but for me upgrading my XP system to Vista is not
an option because that system is totally stable... if it ain't broke, why the
hell fix it?!

I simply want the two OSs to communicate. You would imagine that after years
and years of networking being an integral part of using computers that the
whole process would be simple by now. This isn't bloody 1995!

On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 20:40:22 -0700, "IsisTheCat"
wrote:

"PaulB" wrote in message
...

"John" wrote:

We all share your pain. Maybe Vista will die a slow death and we'll live
with XP for many more years. Vista Business (I have it too) has so may
places to adjust things and I have learned the right hand program, like
Firewall, doesn't know what the left hand program, Group Policy editor,
is
doing.

Maybe you can strip all but the basic TCP/IP protocols away and see if
that
doesn't speed things up. I wish I had the answer because my XP and Vista
machines suffer the same afliction as yours.


"Mister Furious" Mister wrote in
message
news I cannot believe how difficult it has turned out for me to network my
original XP SP2 desktop with my new Vista Business laptop.

This issue seems ABSOLUTELY illogical, and totally unneccessary. I feel
that
it is Microsofts DUTY to manufacture a comprehensive fix that allows
these
two OS's to communicate.

I have been trying reccomendation after reccomendation to try and
resolve
the problem but alas to no avail. HAving to wait 15 mins for the XP
system
to
show up in network connections? WHAT A CROCK!

It infuriates me that when developing the Vista OS that the immediate
connectivity between it and XP wasn't considered. It seems totally
incompetant. Not only that, but for me upgrading my XP system to Vista
is
not
an option because that system is totally stable... if it ain't broke,
why
the
hell fix it?!

I simply want the two OSs to communicate. You would imagine that after
years
and years of networking being an integral part of using computers that
the
whole process would be simple by now. This isn't bloody 1995!




I'm really sorry you are having so much trouble and I don't really know
why.


I have Vista Home Premium and have networked with 2 XP pro systems with no
problems
at all. I can share folders and printers. I had the network with the XP's
first and I just connected the Vista and set file shariing, shared
printing,
and network discovery. I have since connected a Vista Ultimate with the
same
result. I'm only responding to let you know that Vista, by itself, isn't
inherently unable to network with XP.

I have a new Vista Home Premium laptop that can see my tower's XP SP2
machine just fine. Prints to the printers connected to that machine just
fine.

But... I can't get the XP machine to see the Vista machine. On the Vista
machine Discovery is on, sharing is on. Workgroup name is the same. Any
ideas?

Diagnostics are a good place to start. Look at logs from "browstat status",
"ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net config workstation", from each
computer. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions
precisely (download browstat!):
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

I'll second that, and also everything that Mr Furious said.

We have had nothing but illogical infuriating inexplicable experiences
trying to network my Vista Home Premium laptop with my wife's Vista Business
desktop and the kids' XP desktop via a crossover cable and hub. Every
conceivable combination of computers not being able to see other computers
and/or access the internet has happened. Then when you finally get it
working right, one of the Vista computers downloads one of these
interminable "updates" that are filling our HDs every day and it does
something to upset the balance again! What a load of manure Vista networking
is! Why should I spend hundreds of dollars on a sophisticated high level OS
and still have to have such a high level of technical understanding to make
it do what it should do in the first place, just simply WORK!

"LoneStar" wrote in message
reenews.net...

"PaulB" wrote in message
...
I'm really sorry you are having so much trouble and I don't really know
why.
I have Vista Home Premium and have networked with 2 XP pro systems with
no
problems
at all. I can share folders and printers. I had the network with the XP's
first and I just connected the Vista and set file shariing, shared
printing,
and network discovery. I have since connected a Vista Ultimate with the
same
result. I'm only responding to let you know that Vista, by itself, isn't
inherently unable to network with XP.
--
Paul

Paul..........

Great for you! It's not that I don't believe you, it's just
that................

Most of us with XP/Vista networks have done exactly as you, then more,
then resorted to MVP advice, and on and on. Nada. My network works fine,
if I use only Vista's Public Folder! Printer sharing is fine and Vista to
XP works. But XP to Vista for file sharing: No Way.

I'm sure it was easy for you to just hook up your Vista system and do the
little things you stated above, and it worked. Sure, Paul.

EW