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I have a Windows 2003 Domain, with an internet facing Cisco 837 ADSL router. The router is configured to allow incoming (pptp) VPN connections, passing authentication off to a Windows Radius server (IAS). I can VPN into the network fine from XP, but with Vista I get a 619 error. I have downgraded the authentication to chap and MSchap (v1) on vista by configuring the VPN settings manually (and actually setting everything to the same as my XP client vpn connection), but it still fails. It actually looks like the authentication phase completes OK by looking in the IAS logs - and the client briefly displays the "registering your computer on the network" dialog before being disconnected. I think this is more of a link control error than the usual VPN authentication or encryption problems. I have run netmon 3.1 traces on both the XP and Vista clients, and can see that the vista client gets disconnected following the CCP negotiation phase. I have tried changing the LCP and compression settings on the Vista client but this makes no difference. Something must have changed with the Vista VPN client that has broken this functionality. I can VPN in fine from many XP, W2K, and even Windows mobile clients - but not Vista. Any suggestions gratefully received! |
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Hello,
Thank you for using newsgroup! From your post, I'd like to suggest you try the following steps: Step1 =========== Maybe turning off auto-tuning on the Vista client may help. Please run the following commands: netsh interface tcp set global rss=disabled netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled and reboot Related Articles: 934430: Network connectivity may fail when you try to use Windows Vista behind a firewall device http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934430/en-us 555912: Windows 2003 service pack 2 known issues on Small Business Server 2003 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555912/en-us Step2 =========== Changing or disabling the behavior for Strong Host Routing in Windows Vista. In this case, the customer has an application that would switch to using a faster network dynamically if one was available. The Strong Host Routing in Windows Vista was preventing this from happening. There is no setting that can be made in the registry to disable this behavior. You can only disable the metric preference for gateways using NETSH. The syntax is: netsh interface ipv4 set int ignoredefaultroutes=enabled/disabled However it only works on a per connection basis though. If you are using CMAK you can create a script that runs that command at the end of a connection. The VPN software could be coded to disable the default route like below, but they probably don't have access to source for that client. http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa814496.aspx It is exposed through IP Helper. DisableDefaultRoutes A value that indicates if using default route on the interface should be disabled. This member can be used by VPN clients to restrict split tunneling. Step3 =========== Check if you have obtain the proper IP addresses from the DHCP server. If not, please refer to: 928233: Windows Vista cannot obtain an IP address from certain routers or from certain non-Microsoft DHCP servers http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233/en-us Thanks & Regards, Ken Zhao Microsoft Online Support Microsoft Global Technical Support Center Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security http://www.microsoft.com/security ================================================== == When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so that others may learn and benefit from your issue. ================================================== == This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. -------------------- | Thread-Topic: VPN to Cisco via Radius fails ppp | thread-index: AcfZ1uCyf4HVu6YfRGSfMdE8was6LQ== | X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 207.46.19.197 | From: =?Utf-8?B?ZnJlZA==?= | Subject: VPN to Cisco via Radius fails ppp | Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 09:12:11 -0700 | Lines: 24 | Message-ID: | MIME-Version: 1.0 | Content-Type: text/plain; | charset="Utf-8" | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000 | Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message | Importance: normal | Priority: normal | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.2826 | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing | Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing: 12407 | NNTP-Posting-Host: tk2msftsbfm01.phx.gbl 10.40.244.148 | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing | | Hi, | I have a Windows 2003 Domain, with an internet facing Cisco 837 ADSL router. | The router is configured to allow incoming (pptp) VPN connections, passing | authentication off to a Windows Radius server (IAS). I can VPN into the | network fine from XP, but with Vista I get a 619 error. | | I have downgraded the authentication to chap and MSchap (v1) on vista by | configuring the VPN settings manually (and actually setting everything to the | same as my XP client vpn connection), but it still fails. It actually looks | like the authentication phase completes OK by looking in the IAS logs - and | the client briefly displays the "registering your computer on the network" | dialog before being disconnected. I think this is more of a link control | error than the usual VPN authentication or encryption problems. | | I have run netmon 3.1 traces on both the XP and Vista clients, and can see | that the vista client gets disconnected following the CCP negotiation phase. | I have tried changing the LCP and compression settings on the Vista client | but this makes no difference. | | Something must have changed with the Vista VPN client that has broken this | functionality. I can VPN in fine from many XP, W2K, and even Windows mobile | clients - but not Vista. | | Any suggestions gratefully received! | |
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Hello,
Thank you for using newsgroup! From your post, I'd like to suggest you try the following steps: Step1 =========== Maybe turning off auto-tuning on the Vista client may help. Please run the following commands: netsh interface tcp set global rss=disabled netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled and reboot Related Articles: 934430: Network connectivity may fail when you try to use Windows Vista behind a firewall device http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934430/en-us 555912: Windows 2003 service pack 2 known issues on Small Business Server 2003 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555912/en-us Step2 =========== Changing or disabling the behavior for Strong Host Routing in Windows Vista. In this case, the customer has an application that would switch to using a faster network dynamically if one was available. The Strong Host Routing in Windows Vista was preventing this from happening. There is no setting that can be made in the registry to disable this behavior. You can only disable the metric preference for gateways using NETSH. The syntax is: netsh interface ipv4 set int ignoredefaultroutes=enabled/disabled However it only works on a per connection basis though. If you are using CMAK you can create a script that runs that command at the end of a connection. The VPN software could be coded to disable the default route like below, but they probably don't have access to source for that client. http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa814496.aspx It is exposed through IP Helper. DisableDefaultRoutes A value that indicates if using default route on the interface should be disabled. This member can be used by VPN clients to restrict split tunneling. Step3 =========== Check if you have obtain the proper IP addresses from the DHCP server. If not, please refer to: 928233: Windows Vista cannot obtain an IP address from certain routers or from certain non-Microsoft DHCP servers http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233/en-us Thanks & Regards, Ken Zhao Microsoft Online Support Microsoft Global Technical Support Center Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security http://www.microsoft.com/security ================================================== == When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so that others may learn and benefit from your issue. ================================================== == This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. -------------------- | Thread-Topic: VPN to Cisco via Radius fails ppp | thread-index: AcfZ1uCyf4HVu6YfRGSfMdE8was6LQ== | X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 207.46.19.197 | From: =?Utf-8?B?ZnJlZA==?= | Subject: VPN to Cisco via Radius fails ppp | Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 09:12:11 -0700 | Lines: 24 | Message-ID: | MIME-Version: 1.0 | Content-Type: text/plain; | charset="Utf-8" | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000 | Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message | Importance: normal | Priority: normal | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.2826 | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing | Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing: 12407 | NNTP-Posting-Host: tk2msftsbfm01.phx.gbl 10.40.244.148 | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing | | Hi, | I have a Windows 2003 Domain, with an internet facing Cisco 837 ADSL router. | The router is configured to allow incoming (pptp) VPN connections, passing | authentication off to a Windows Radius server (IAS). I can VPN into the | network fine from XP, but with Vista I get a 619 error. | | I have downgraded the authentication to chap and MSchap (v1) on vista by | configuring the VPN settings manually (and actually setting everything to the | same as my XP client vpn connection), but it still fails. It actually looks | like the authentication phase completes OK by looking in the IAS logs - and | the client briefly displays the "registering your computer on the network" | dialog before being disconnected. I think this is more of a link control | error than the usual VPN authentication or encryption problems. | | I have run netmon 3.1 traces on both the XP and Vista clients, and can see | that the vista client gets disconnected following the CCP negotiation phase. | I have tried changing the LCP and compression settings on the Vista client | but this makes no difference. | | Something must have changed with the Vista VPN client that has broken this | functionality. I can VPN in fine from many XP, W2K, and even Windows mobile | clients - but not Vista. | | Any suggestions gratefully received! | |
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Hi Ken,
Many thanks for your reply - unfortunately, none of the suggestions have resolved the problem. I would like to confirm we are using the built in Vista VPN client (rather than a 3rd party), from the log files, I can also see that I am getting a valid IP address and DNS/WINS server addresses shortly before the connection is terminated. Any further ideas? Thanks, ""Ken Zhao [MSFT]"" wrote: Hello, Thank you for using newsgroup! From your post, I'd like to suggest you try the following steps: Step1 =========== Maybe turning off auto-tuning on the Vista client may help. Please run the following commands: netsh interface tcp set global rss=disabled netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled and reboot Related Articles: 934430: Network connectivity may fail when you try to use Windows Vista behind a firewall device http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934430/en-us 555912: Windows 2003 service pack 2 known issues on Small Business Server 2003 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555912/en-us Step2 =========== Changing or disabling the behavior for Strong Host Routing in Windows Vista. In this case, the customer has an application that would switch to using a faster network dynamically if one was available. The Strong Host Routing in Windows Vista was preventing this from happening. There is no setting that can be made in the registry to disable this behavior. You can only disable the metric preference for gateways using NETSH. The syntax is: netsh interface ipv4 set int ignoredefaultroutes=enabled/disabled However it only works on a per connection basis though. If you are using CMAK you can create a script that runs that command at the end of a connection. The VPN software could be coded to disable the default route like below, but they probably don't have access to source for that client. http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa814496.aspx It is exposed through IP Helper. DisableDefaultRoutes A value that indicates if using default route on the interface should be disabled. This member can be used by VPN clients to restrict split tunneling. Step3 =========== Check if you have obtain the proper IP addresses from the DHCP server. If not, please refer to: 928233: Windows Vista cannot obtain an IP address from certain routers or from certain non-Microsoft DHCP servers http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233/en-us Thanks & Regards, Ken Zhao Microsoft Online Support Microsoft Global Technical Support Center Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security http://www.microsoft.com/security ================================================== == When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so that others may learn and benefit from your issue. ================================================== == This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. -------------------- | Thread-Topic: VPN to Cisco via Radius fails ppp | thread-index: AcfZ1uCyf4HVu6YfRGSfMdE8was6LQ== | X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 207.46.19.197 | From: =?Utf-8?B?ZnJlZA==?= | Subject: VPN to Cisco via Radius fails ppp | Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 09:12:11 -0700 | Lines: 24 | Message-ID: | MIME-Version: 1.0 | Content-Type: text/plain; | charset="Utf-8" | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000 | Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message | Importance: normal | Priority: normal | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.2826 | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing | Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing: 12407 | NNTP-Posting-Host: tk2msftsbfm01.phx.gbl 10.40.244.148 | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing | | Hi, | I have a Windows 2003 Domain, with an internet facing Cisco 837 ADSL router. | The router is configured to allow incoming (pptp) VPN connections, passing | authentication off to a Windows Radius server (IAS). I can VPN into the | network fine from XP, but with Vista I get a 619 error. | | I have downgraded the authentication to chap and MSchap (v1) on vista by | configuring the VPN settings manually (and actually setting everything to the | same as my XP client vpn connection), but it still fails. It actually looks | like the authentication phase completes OK by looking in the IAS logs - and | the client briefly displays the "registering your computer on the network" | dialog before being disconnected. I think this is more of a link control | error than the usual VPN authentication or encryption problems. | | I have run netmon 3.1 traces on both the XP and Vista clients, and can see | that the vista client gets disconnected following the CCP negotiation phase. | I have tried changing the LCP and compression settings on the Vista client | but this makes no difference. | | Something must have changed with the Vista VPN client that has broken this | functionality. I can VPN in fine from many XP, W2K, and even Windows mobile | clients - but not Vista. | | Any suggestions gratefully received! | |
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Hello,
At this moment, the issue only occurs on Windows Vista. I am not sure if it is related to the Cisco router. I suggest you upgrade of IOS in the Cisco router and enable MSCHAP V2 in Windows Vista to monitor the issue again. Thanks & Regards, Ken Zhao Microsoft Online Support Microsoft Global Technical Support Center Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security http://www.microsoft.com/security ================================================== == When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so that others may learn and benefit from your issue. ================================================== == This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. -------------------- | Thread-Topic: VPN to Cisco via Radius fails ppp | thread-index: AcfaWRWRBNT9WbbJR9CI4e9jCC63eQ== | X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 207.46.19.168 | From: =?Utf-8?B?ZnJlZA==?= | References: | Subject: VPN to Cisco via Radius fails ppp | Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 00:44:15 -0700 | Lines: 157 | Message-ID: | MIME-Version: 1.0 | Content-Type: text/plain; | charset="Utf-8" | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000 | Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message | Importance: normal | Priority: normal | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.2826 | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing | Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing: 12463 | NNTP-Posting-Host: tk2msftsbfm01.phx.gbl 10.40.244.148 | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing | | Hi Ken, | | Many thanks for your reply - unfortunately, none of the suggestions have | resolved the problem. | | I would like to confirm we are using the built in Vista VPN client (rather | than a 3rd party), from the log files, I can also see that I am getting a | valid IP address and DNS/WINS server addresses shortly before the connection | is terminated. | | Any further ideas? | | Thanks, | | | | ""Ken Zhao [MSFT]"" wrote: | | Hello, | | Thank you for using newsgroup! | | From your post, I'd like to suggest you try the following steps: | | Step1 | =========== | Maybe turning off auto-tuning on the Vista client may help. Please run the | following commands: | | netsh interface tcp set global rss=disabled | netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled and reboot | | Related Articles: | 934430: Network connectivity may fail when you try to use Windows Vista | behind a firewall device | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934430/en-us | | 555912: Windows 2003 service pack 2 known issues on Small Business Server | 2003 | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555912/en-us | | Step2 | =========== | Changing or disabling the behavior for Strong Host Routing in Windows Vista. | | In this case, the customer has an application that would switch to using a | faster network dynamically if one was available. The Strong Host Routing in | Windows Vista was preventing this from happening. | | There is no setting that can be made in the registry to disable this | behavior. You can only disable the metric preference for gateways using | NETSH. | The syntax is: netsh interface ipv4 set int | ignoredefaultroutes=enabled/disabled | | However it only works on a per connection basis though. If you are using | CMAK you can create a script that runs that command at the end of a | connection. | | The VPN software could be coded to disable the default route like below, | but they probably don't have access to source for that client. | http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa814496.aspx | It is exposed through IP Helper. | | DisableDefaultRoutes | A value that indicates if using default route on the interface should be | disabled. This member can be used by VPN clients to restrict split | tunneling. | | Step3 | =========== | Check if you have obtain the proper IP addresses from the DHCP server. If | not, please refer to: | 928233: Windows Vista cannot obtain an IP address from certain routers or | from certain non-Microsoft DHCP servers | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233/en-us | | Thanks & Regards, | | Ken Zhao | | Microsoft Online Support | Microsoft Global Technical Support Center | | Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security http://www.microsoft.com/security | ================================================== == | When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so | that others may learn and benefit from your issue. | ================================================== == | This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. | | | | | -------------------- | | Thread-Topic: VPN to Cisco via Radius fails ppp | | thread-index: AcfZ1uCyf4HVu6YfRGSfMdE8was6LQ== | | X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 207.46.19.197 | | From: =?Utf-8?B?ZnJlZA==?= | | Subject: VPN to Cisco via Radius fails ppp | | Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 09:12:11 -0700 | | Lines: 24 | | Message-ID: | | MIME-Version: 1.0 | | Content-Type: text/plain; | | charset="Utf-8" | | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | | X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000 | | Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message | | Importance: normal | | Priority: normal | | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.2826 | | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing | | Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl | | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl | microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing: 12407 | | NNTP-Posting-Host: tk2msftsbfm01.phx.gbl 10.40.244.148 | | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing | | | | Hi, | | I have a Windows 2003 Domain, with an internet facing Cisco 837 ADSL | router. | | The router is configured to allow incoming (pptp) VPN connections, | passing | | authentication off to a Windows Radius server (IAS). I can VPN into the | | network fine from XP, but with Vista I get a 619 error. | | | | I have downgraded the authentication to chap and MSchap (v1) on vista by | | configuring the VPN settings manually (and actually setting everything to | the | | same as my XP client vpn connection), but it still fails. It actually | looks | | like the authentication phase completes OK by looking in the IAS logs - | and | | the client briefly displays the "registering your computer on the | network" | | dialog before being disconnected. I think this is more of a link control | | error than the usual VPN authentication or encryption problems. | | | | I have run netmon 3.1 traces on both the XP and Vista clients, and can | see | | that the vista client gets disconnected following the CCP negotiation | phase. | | I have tried changing the LCP and compression settings on the Vista | client | | but this makes no difference. | | | | Something must have changed with the Vista VPN client that has broken | this | | functionality. I can VPN in fine from many XP, W2K, and even Windows | mobile | | clients - but not Vista. | | | | Any suggestions gratefully received! | | | | | |
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Thanks Ken.
I will see if we can get an IOS upgrade, but I am pretty sure we are at the latest release. Problems with VPN's is probably one of the biggest painpoints with Vista from a corporate point of view - it's not even striaghtforward to map a drive. Is Microsoft likely to be fixing these problems in the short term? I really struggle to recommend Vista when upgrading breaks existing infrastructure funtionality. Regards, ""Ken Zhao [MSFT]"" wrote: Hello, At this moment, the issue only occurs on Windows Vista. I am not sure if it is related to the Cisco router. I suggest you upgrade of IOS in the Cisco router and enable MSCHAP V2 in Windows Vista to monitor the issue again. Thanks & Regards, Ken Zhao Microsoft Online Support Microsoft Global Technical Support Center Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security http://www.microsoft.com/security ================================================== == When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so that others may learn and benefit from your issue. ================================================== == This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. -------------------- | Thread-Topic: VPN to Cisco via Radius fails ppp | thread-index: AcfaWRWRBNT9WbbJR9CI4e9jCC63eQ== | X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 207.46.19.168 | From: =?Utf-8?B?ZnJlZA==?= | References: | Subject: VPN to Cisco via Radius fails ppp | Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 00:44:15 -0700 | Lines: 157 | Message-ID: | MIME-Version: 1.0 | Content-Type: text/plain; | charset="Utf-8" | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000 | Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message | Importance: normal | Priority: normal | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.2826 | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing | Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing: 12463 | NNTP-Posting-Host: tk2msftsbfm01.phx.gbl 10.40.244.148 | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing | | Hi Ken, | | Many thanks for your reply - unfortunately, none of the suggestions have | resolved the problem. | | I would like to confirm we are using the built in Vista VPN client (rather | than a 3rd party), from the log files, I can also see that I am getting a | valid IP address and DNS/WINS server addresses shortly before the connection | is terminated. | | Any further ideas? | | Thanks, | | | | ""Ken Zhao [MSFT]"" wrote: | | Hello, | | Thank you for using newsgroup! | | From your post, I'd like to suggest you try the following steps: | | Step1 | =========== | Maybe turning off auto-tuning on the Vista client may help. Please run the | following commands: | | netsh interface tcp set global rss=disabled | netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled and reboot | | Related Articles: | 934430: Network connectivity may fail when you try to use Windows Vista | behind a firewall device | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934430/en-us | | 555912: Windows 2003 service pack 2 known issues on Small Business Server | 2003 | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555912/en-us | | Step2 | =========== | Changing or disabling the behavior for Strong Host Routing in Windows Vista. | | In this case, the customer has an application that would switch to using a | faster network dynamically if one was available. The Strong Host Routing in | Windows Vista was preventing this from happening. | | There is no setting that can be made in the registry to disable this | behavior. You can only disable the metric preference for gateways using | NETSH. | The syntax is: netsh interface ipv4 set int | ignoredefaultroutes=enabled/disabled | | However it only works on a per connection basis though. If you are using | CMAK you can create a script that runs that command at the end of a | connection. | | The VPN software could be coded to disable the default route like below, | but they probably don't have access to source for that client. | http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa814496.aspx | It is exposed through IP Helper. | | DisableDefaultRoutes | A value that indicates if using default route on the interface should be | disabled. This member can be used by VPN clients to restrict split | tunneling. | | Step3 | =========== | Check if you have obtain the proper IP addresses from the DHCP server. If | not, please refer to: | 928233: Windows Vista cannot obtain an IP address from certain routers or | from certain non-Microsoft DHCP servers | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233/en-us | | Thanks & Regards, | | Ken Zhao | | Microsoft Online Support | Microsoft Global Technical Support Center | | Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security http://www.microsoft.com/security | ================================================== == | When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so | that others may learn and benefit from your issue. | ================================================== == | This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. | | | | | -------------------- | | Thread-Topic: VPN to Cisco via Radius fails ppp | | thread-index: AcfZ1uCyf4HVu6YfRGSfMdE8was6LQ== | | X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 207.46.19.197 | | From: =?Utf-8?B?ZnJlZA==?= | | Subject: VPN to Cisco via Radius fails ppp | | Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 09:12:11 -0700 | | Lines: 24 | | Message-ID: | | MIME-Version: 1.0 | | Content-Type: text/plain; | | charset="Utf-8" | | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | | X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000 | | Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message | | Importance: normal | | Priority: normal | | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.2826 | | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing | | Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl | | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl | microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing: 12407 | | NNTP-Posting-Host: tk2msftsbfm01.phx.gbl 10.40.244.148 | | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing | | | | Hi, | | I have a Windows 2003 Domain, with an internet facing Cisco 837 ADSL | router. | | The router is configured to allow incoming (pptp) VPN connections, | passing | | authentication off to a Windows Radius server (IAS). I can VPN into the | | network fine from XP, but with Vista I get a 619 error. | | | | I have downgraded the authentication to chap and MSchap (v1) on vista by | | configuring the VPN settings manually (and actually setting everything to | the | | same as my XP client vpn connection), but it still fails. It actually | looks | | like the authentication phase completes OK by looking in the IAS logs - | and | | the client briefly displays the "registering your computer on the | network" | | dialog before being disconnected. I think this is more of a link control | | error than the usual VPN authentication or encryption problems. | | | | I have run netmon 3.1 traces on both the XP and Vista clients, and can | see | | that the vista client gets disconnected following the CCP negotiation | phase. | | I have tried changing the LCP and compression settings on the Vista | client | | but this makes no difference. | | | | Something must have changed with the Vista VPN client that has broken | this | | functionality. I can VPN in fine from many XP, W2K, and even Windows | mobile | | clients - but not Vista. | | | | Any suggestions gratefully received! | | | | | |
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Hello,
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Your feedback is valuable for us to improve our products and increase the level of service provided. https://support.microsoft.com/common...08&showpage=1& ws=search Thanks & Regards, Ken Zhao Microsoft Online Support Microsoft Global Technical Support Center Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security http://www.microsoft.com/security ================================================== == When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so that others may learn and benefit from your issue. ================================================== == This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. -------------------- | Thread-Topic: VPN to Cisco via Radius fails ppp | thread-index: AcfbJQWMDMl/6LFUS1e41XotJwlxNA== | X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 207.46.19.168 | From: =?Utf-8?B?ZnJlZA==?= | References: | Subject: VPN to Cisco via Radius fails ppp | Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 01:04:05 -0700 | Lines: 249 | Message-ID: | MIME-Version: 1.0 | Content-Type: text/plain; | charset="Utf-8" | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000 | Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message | Importance: normal | Priority: normal | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.2826 | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing | Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing: 12512 | NNTP-Posting-Host: tk2msftsbfm01.phx.gbl 10.40.244.148 | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing | | Thanks Ken. | | I will see if we can get an IOS upgrade, but I am pretty sure we are at the | latest release. | | Problems with VPN's is probably one of the biggest painpoints with Vista | from a corporate point of view - it's not even striaghtforward to map a drive. | | Is Microsoft likely to be fixing these problems in the short term? I really | struggle to recommend Vista when upgrading breaks existing infrastructure | funtionality. | | Regards, | | ""Ken Zhao [MSFT]"" wrote: | | Hello, | | At this moment, the issue only occurs on Windows Vista. I am not sure if it | is related to the Cisco router. I suggest you upgrade of IOS in the Cisco | router and enable MSCHAP V2 in Windows Vista to monitor the issue again. | | Thanks & Regards, | | Ken Zhao | | Microsoft Online Support | Microsoft Global Technical Support Center | | Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security http://www.microsoft.com/security | ================================================== == | When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so | that others may learn and benefit from your issue. | ================================================== == | This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. | | | | | | -------------------- | | Thread-Topic: VPN to Cisco via Radius fails ppp | | thread-index: AcfaWRWRBNT9WbbJR9CI4e9jCC63eQ== | | X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 207.46.19.168 | | From: =?Utf-8?B?ZnJlZA==?= | | References: | | | Subject: VPN to Cisco via Radius fails ppp | | Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 00:44:15 -0700 | | Lines: 157 | | Message-ID: | | MIME-Version: 1.0 | | Content-Type: text/plain; | | charset="Utf-8" | | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | | X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000 | | Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message | | Importance: normal | | Priority: normal | | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.2826 | | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing | | Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl | | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl | microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing: 12463 | | NNTP-Posting-Host: tk2msftsbfm01.phx.gbl 10.40.244.148 | | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing | | | | Hi Ken, | | | | Many thanks for your reply - unfortunately, none of the suggestions have | | resolved the problem. | | | | I would like to confirm we are using the built in Vista VPN client | (rather | | than a 3rd party), from the log files, I can also see that I am getting a | | valid IP address and DNS/WINS server addresses shortly before the | connection | | is terminated. | | | | Any further ideas? | | | | Thanks, | | | | | | | | ""Ken Zhao [MSFT]"" wrote: | | | | Hello, | | | | Thank you for using newsgroup! | | | | From your post, I'd like to suggest you try the following steps: | | | | Step1 | | =========== | | Maybe turning off auto-tuning on the Vista client may help. Please run | the | | following commands: | | | | netsh interface tcp set global rss=disabled | | netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled and reboot | | | | Related Articles: | | 934430: Network connectivity may fail when you try to use Windows Vista | | behind a firewall device | | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934430/en-us | | | | 555912: Windows 2003 service pack 2 known issues on Small Business | Server | | 2003 | | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555912/en-us | | | | Step2 | | =========== | | Changing or disabling the behavior for Strong Host Routing in Windows | Vista. | | | | In this case, the customer has an application that would switch to | using a | | faster network dynamically if one was available. The Strong Host | Routing in | | Windows Vista was preventing this from happening. | | | | There is no setting that can be made in the registry to disable this | | behavior. You can only disable the metric preference for gateways using | | NETSH. | | The syntax is: netsh interface ipv4 set int | | ignoredefaultroutes=enabled/disabled | | | | However it only works on a per connection basis though. If you are | using | | CMAK you can create a script that runs that command at the end of a | | connection. | | | | The VPN software could be coded to disable the default route like | below, | | but they probably don't have access to source for that client. | | http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa814496.aspx | | It is exposed through IP Helper. | | | | DisableDefaultRoutes | | A value that indicates if using default route on the interface should | be | | disabled. This member can be used by VPN clients to restrict split | | tunneling. | | | | Step3 | | =========== | | Check if you have obtain the proper IP addresses from the DHCP server. | If | | not, please refer to: | | 928233: Windows Vista cannot obtain an IP address from certain routers | or | | from certain non-Microsoft DHCP servers | | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233/en-us | | | | Thanks & Regards, | | | | Ken Zhao | | | | Microsoft Online Support | | Microsoft Global Technical Support Center | | | | Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security | http://www.microsoft.com/security | | ================================================== == | | When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader | so | | that others may learn and benefit from your issue. | | ================================================== == | | This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no | rights. | | | | | | | | | | -------------------- | | | Thread-Topic: VPN to Cisco via Radius fails ppp | | | thread-index: AcfZ1uCyf4HVu6YfRGSfMdE8was6LQ== | | | X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 207.46.19.197 | | | From: =?Utf-8?B?ZnJlZA==?= | | | Subject: VPN to Cisco via Radius fails ppp | | | Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 09:12:11 -0700 | | | Lines: 24 | | | Message-ID: | | | MIME-Version: 1.0 | | | Content-Type: text/plain; | | | charset="Utf-8" | | | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | | | X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000 | | | Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message | | | Importance: normal | | | Priority: normal | | | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.2826 | | | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing | | | Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl | | | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl | | microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing: 12407 | | | NNTP-Posting-Host: tk2msftsbfm01.phx.gbl 10.40.244.148 | | | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing | | | | | | Hi, | | | I have a Windows 2003 Domain, with an internet facing Cisco 837 ADSL | | router. | | | The router is configured to allow incoming (pptp) VPN connections, | | passing | | | authentication off to a Windows Radius server (IAS). I can VPN into | the | | | network fine from XP, but with Vista I get a 619 error. | | | | | | I have downgraded the authentication to chap and MSchap (v1) on vista | by | | | configuring the VPN settings manually (and actually setting | everything to | | the | | | same as my XP client vpn connection), but it still fails. It | actually | | looks | | | like the authentication phase completes OK by looking in the IAS logs | - | | and | | | the client briefly displays the "registering your computer on the | | network" | | | dialog before being disconnected. I think this is more of a link | control | | | error than the usual VPN authentication or encryption problems. | | | | | | I have run netmon 3.1 traces on both the XP and Vista clients, and | can | | see | | | that the vista client gets disconnected following the CCP negotiation | | phase. | | | I have tried changing the LCP and compression settings on the Vista | | client | | | but this makes no difference. | | | | | | Something must have changed with the Vista VPN client that has broken | | this | | | functionality. I can VPN in fine from many XP, W2K, and even Windows | | mobile | | | clients - but not Vista. | | | | | | Any suggestions gratefully received! | | | | | | | | | | | | |
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Hi Yeffer,
If you have any updates, please feel free to let me know. Thanks & Regards, Ken Zhao Microsoft Online Support Microsoft Global Technical Support Center Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security http://www.microsoft.com/security ================================================== == When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so that others may learn and benefit from your issue. ================================================== == This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. -------------------- | X-Tomcat-ID: 67639585 | References: | MIME-Version: 1.0 | Content-Type: text/plain | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | From: ("Ken Zhao [MSFT]") | Organization: Microsoft | Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 06:22:23 GMT | Subject: VPN to Cisco via Radius fails ppp | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing | Message-ID: | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing | Lines: 307 | Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing: 12631 | NNTP-Posting-Host: tomcatimport2.phx.gbl 10.201.218.182 | | Hello, | | Actually, Windows Vista has enhanced network security and components. | Sometimes third party network devices are not compatible with Windows Vista | in some network configuration. At this moment, please believe we are | collecting products feedback from our customers so that we can improve our | new products in the future. If the problem only occurs on Windows Vista, I | also suggest you consult network device manufacturer to see if they have | any information about this symptom. | | I do understand your concerns. From my point of view, I understand your | feeling and how frustrated when you find that our product cannot meet your | needs. So, it is my pleasure to help you to reflect your recommendation to | the proper department for their consideration. | | In addition, please feel free to submit your suggestion on our product to | the following link. Our Product Group reviews the suggestions submitted by | our customers. Your feedback is valuable for us to improve our products and | increase the level of service provided. | | https://support.microsoft.com/common...08&showpage=1& | ws=search | | Thanks & Regards, | | Ken Zhao | | Microsoft Online Support | Microsoft Global Technical Support Center | | Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security http://www.microsoft.com/security | ================================================== == | When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so | that others may learn and benefit from your issue. | ================================================== == | This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. | | | | | | -------------------- | | Thread-Topic: VPN to Cisco via Radius fails ppp | | thread-index: AcfbJQWMDMl/6LFUS1e41XotJwlxNA== | | X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 207.46.19.168 | | From: =?Utf-8?B?ZnJlZA==?= | | References: | | | | | Subject: VPN to Cisco via Radius fails ppp | | Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 01:04:05 -0700 | | Lines: 249 | | Message-ID: | | MIME-Version: 1.0 | | Content-Type: text/plain; | | charset="Utf-8" | | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | | X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000 | | Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message | | Importance: normal | | Priority: normal | | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.2826 | | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing | | Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl | | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl | microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing: 12512 | | NNTP-Posting-Host: tk2msftsbfm01.phx.gbl 10.40.244.148 | | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing | | | | Thanks Ken. | | | | I will see if we can get an IOS upgrade, but I am pretty sure we are at | the | | latest release. | | | | Problems with VPN's is probably one of the biggest painpoints with Vista | | from a corporate point of view - it's not even striaghtforward to map a | drive. | | | | Is Microsoft likely to be fixing these problems in the short term? I | really | | struggle to recommend Vista when upgrading breaks existing infrastructure | | funtionality. | | | | Regards, | | | | ""Ken Zhao [MSFT]"" wrote: | | | | Hello, | | | | At this moment, the issue only occurs on Windows Vista. I am not sure | if it | | is related to the Cisco router. I suggest you upgrade of IOS in the | Cisco | | router and enable MSCHAP V2 in Windows Vista to monitor the issue again. | | | | Thanks & Regards, | | | | Ken Zhao | | | | Microsoft Online Support | | Microsoft Global Technical Support Center | | | | Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security | http://www.microsoft.com/security | | ================================================== == | | When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader | so | | that others may learn and benefit from your issue. | | ================================================== == | | This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no | rights. | | | | | | | | | | | | -------------------- | | | Thread-Topic: VPN to Cisco via Radius fails ppp | | | thread-index: AcfaWRWRBNT9WbbJR9CI4e9jCC63eQ== | | | X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 207.46.19.168 | | | From: =?Utf-8?B?ZnJlZA==?= | | | References: | | | | | Subject: VPN to Cisco via Radius fails ppp | | | Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 00:44:15 -0700 | | | Lines: 157 | | | Message-ID: | | | MIME-Version: 1.0 | | | Content-Type: text/plain; | | | charset="Utf-8" | | | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | | | X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000 | | | Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message | | | Importance: normal | | | Priority: normal | | | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.2826 | | | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing | | | Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl | | | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl | | microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing: 12463 | | | NNTP-Posting-Host: tk2msftsbfm01.phx.gbl 10.40.244.148 | | | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing | | | | | | Hi Ken, | | | | | | Many thanks for your reply - unfortunately, none of the suggestions | have | | | resolved the problem. | | | | | | I would like to confirm we are using the built in Vista VPN client | | (rather | | | than a 3rd party), from the log files, I can also see that I am | getting a | | | valid IP address and DNS/WINS server addresses shortly before the | | connection | | | is terminated. | | | | | | Any further ideas? | | | | | | Thanks, | | | | | | | | | | | | ""Ken Zhao [MSFT]"" wrote: | | | | | | Hello, | | | | | | Thank you for using newsgroup! | | | | | | From your post, I'd like to suggest you try the following steps: | | | | | | Step1 | | | =========== | | | Maybe turning off auto-tuning on the Vista client may help. Please | run | | the | | | following commands: | | | | | | netsh interface tcp set global rss=disabled | | | netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled and reboot | | | | | | Related Articles: | | | 934430: Network connectivity may fail when you try to use Windows | Vista | | | behind a firewall device | | | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934430/en-us | | | | | | 555912: Windows 2003 service pack 2 known issues on Small Business | | Server | | | 2003 | | | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555912/en-us | | | | | | Step2 | | | =========== | | | Changing or disabling the behavior for Strong Host Routing in | Windows | | Vista. | | | | | | In this case, the customer has an application that would switch to | | using a | | | faster network dynamically if one was available. The Strong Host | | Routing in | | | Windows Vista was preventing this from happening. | | | | | | There is no setting that can be made in the registry to disable | this | | | behavior. You can only disable the metric preference for gateways | using | | | NETSH. | | | The syntax is: netsh interface ipv4 set int | | | ignoredefaultroutes=enabled/disabled | | | | | | However it only works on a per connection basis though. If you are | | using | | | CMAK you can create a script that runs that command at the end of a | | | connection. | | | | | | The VPN software could be coded to disable the default route like | | below, | | | but they probably don't have access to source for that client. | | | http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa814496.aspx | | | It is exposed through IP Helper. | | | | | | DisableDefaultRoutes | | | A value that indicates if using default route on the interface | should | | be | | | disabled. This member can be used by VPN clients to restrict split | | | tunneling. | | | | | | Step3 | | | =========== | | | Check if you have obtain the proper IP addresses from the DHCP | server. | | If | | | not, please refer to: | | | 928233: Windows Vista cannot obtain an IP address from certain | routers | | or | | | from certain non-Microsoft DHCP servers | | | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233/en-us | | | | | | Thanks & Regards, | | | | | | Ken Zhao | | | | | | Microsoft Online Support | | | Microsoft Global Technical Support Center | | | | | | Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security | | http://www.microsoft.com/security | | | ================================================== == | | | When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your | newsreader | | so | | | that others may learn and benefit from your issue. | | | ================================================== == | | | This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no | | rights. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | -------------------- | | | | Thread-Topic: VPN to Cisco via Radius fails ppp | | | | thread-index: AcfZ1uCyf4HVu6YfRGSfMdE8was6LQ== | | | | X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 207.46.19.197 | | | | From: =?Utf-8?B?ZnJlZA==?= | | | | Subject: VPN to Cisco via Radius fails ppp | | | | Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 09:12:11 -0700 | | | | Lines: 24 | | | | Message-ID: | | | | MIME-Version: 1.0 | | | | Content-Type: text/plain; | | | | charset="Utf-8" | | | | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit | | | | X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000 | | | | Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message | | | | Importance: normal | | | | Priority: normal | | | | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.2826 | | | | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing | | | | Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl | | | | Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl | | | microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing: 12407 | | | | NNTP-Posting-Host: tk2msftsbfm01.phx.gbl 10.40.244.148 | | | | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing | | | | | | | | Hi, | | | | I have a Windows 2003 Domain, with an internet facing Cisco 837 | ADSL | | | router. | | | | The router is configured to allow incoming (pptp) VPN | connections, | | | passing | | | | authentication off to a Windows Radius server (IAS). I can VPN | into | | the | | | | network fine from XP, but with Vista I get a 619 error. | | | | | | | | I have downgraded the authentication to chap and MSchap (v1) on | vista | | by | | | | configuring the VPN settings manually (and actually setting | | everything to | | | the | | | | same as my XP client vpn connection), but it still fails. It | | actually | | | looks | | | | like the authentication phase completes OK by looking in the IAS | logs | | - | | | and | | | | the client briefly displays the "registering your computer on the | | | network" | | | | dialog before being disconnected. I think this is more of a link | | control | | | | error than the usual VPN authentication or encryption problems. | | | | | | | | I have run netmon 3.1 traces on both the XP and Vista clients, | and | | can | | | see | | | | that the vista client gets disconnected following the CCP | negotiation | | | phase. | | | | I have tried changing the LCP and compression settings on the | Vista | | | client | | | | but this makes no difference. | | | | | | | | Something must have changed with the Vista VPN client that has | broken | | | this | | | | functionality. I can VPN in fine from many XP, W2K, and even | Windows | | | mobile | | | | clients - but not Vista. | | | | | | | | Any suggestions gratefully received! | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |