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I am trying to set up printer sharing but am having problems.
I have a Windows XP Desk Top and have just put a router on for my laptop which is Windows Vista. I think i have followed all the instruction correct, i'v got wireless connection to my Broadband through my PC to laptop but i have tried to printer share(printer on PC) with no success. I have set up a network but cant see my PC or Printer on it. Do i have to install my printer on laptop with disk or what. Please help, i have pulled all my hair out trying to set it up (now bald). What am i doing wrong. Regards. Hotwheels -- Please treat me carefully as i am a new user |
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hotwheels wrote:
I am trying to set up printer sharing but am having problems. I have a Windows XP Desk Top and have just put a router on for my laptop which is Windows Vista. I think i have followed all the instruction correct, i'v got wireless connection to my Broadband through my PC to laptop but i have tried to printer share(printer on PC) with no success. I have set up a network but cant see my PC or Printer on it. Do i have to install my printer on laptop with disk or what. Please help, i have pulled all my hair out trying to set it up (now bald). What am i doing wrong. Regards. Hotwheels If you can't see your machines on the network, then you haven't set up the network correctly. Since I don't know exactly what you did (or didn't), all I can offer you is general networking troubleshooting steps. Go through them systematically and you'll be able to network. After you get the Local Area Network (LAN) file/printer sharing set up, go to the Printers applet in XP and share the printer. Then go to the laptop and install Vista drivers. Get the drivers by going to the printer mftr.'s website and downloading them. That way you'll have the latest ones. When you install the drivers on the Vista laptop, the installation routine should see the printer connected to XP now. The exact way to install a printer does depend on how the printer mftr. wrote the install routine but in general that's the way you do it. ***** This link will take you through Vista networking very well: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused by 1) a misconfigured firewall; or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not having identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4) trying to create shares where the operating system does not permit it. Here are some general networking tips for home/small networks: 1. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN) traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing File/Printer Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard on XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus with "Internet Worm Protection" (like Norton 2006/07) which acts as a firewall, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct subnet. Do not run more than one firewall. 2. With earlier Microsoft operating systems, the name of the Workgroup didn't matter. Apparently it does with Vista, so put all computers in the same Workgroup. This is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab. 3. Create identical user accounts and passwords on all machines. If you wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista: Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) - http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm 4. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center: a. If you need Pro's ability to set fine-grained permissions, turn off Simple File Sharing (Folder OptionsView tab) and create identical user accounts/passwords on all computers. b. If you don't care about using Pro's advanced features, leave the Simple File Sharing enabled. Simple File Sharing means that Guest (network) is enabled. This means that anyone without a user account on the target system can use its resources. This is a security hole but only you can decide if it matters in your situation. I think it is a good idea to create the identical user accounts/passwords in any case when Vista machines are involved and it isn't an onerous task with home/small networks. 5. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users' home directories (My Documents) or Program Files, but you can share folders inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents folder. See the first link above for details about Vista sharing. ***** Malke -- Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com "Don't Panic!" MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User |
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Thanks very much Malke,
Im going to try that now. Regards Hotwheels -- Please treat me carefully as i am a new user "Malke" wrote: hotwheels wrote: I am trying to set up printer sharing but am having problems. I have a Windows XP Desk Top and have just put a router on for my laptop which is Windows Vista. I think i have followed all the instruction correct, i'v got wireless connection to my Broadband through my PC to laptop but i have tried to printer share(printer on PC) with no success. I have set up a network but cant see my PC or Printer on it. Do i have to install my printer on laptop with disk or what. Please help, i have pulled all my hair out trying to set it up (now bald). What am i doing wrong. Regards. Hotwheels If you can't see your machines on the network, then you haven't set up the network correctly. Since I don't know exactly what you did (or didn't), all I can offer you is general networking troubleshooting steps. Go through them systematically and you'll be able to network. After you get the Local Area Network (LAN) file/printer sharing set up, go to the Printers applet in XP and share the printer. Then go to the laptop and install Vista drivers. Get the drivers by going to the printer mftr.'s website and downloading them. That way you'll have the latest ones. When you install the drivers on the Vista laptop, the installation routine should see the printer connected to XP now. The exact way to install a printer does depend on how the printer mftr. wrote the install routine but in general that's the way you do it. ***** This link will take you through Vista networking very well: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused by 1) a misconfigured firewall; or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not having identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4) trying to create shares where the operating system does not permit it. Here are some general networking tips for home/small networks: 1. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN) traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing File/Printer Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard on XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus with "Internet Worm Protection" (like Norton 2006/07) which acts as a firewall, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct subnet. Do not run more than one firewall. 2. With earlier Microsoft operating systems, the name of the Workgroup didn't matter. Apparently it does with Vista, so put all computers in the same Workgroup. This is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab. 3. Create identical user accounts and passwords on all machines. If you wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista: Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) - http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm 4. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center: a. If you need Pro's ability to set fine-grained permissions, turn off Simple File Sharing (Folder OptionsView tab) and create identical user accounts/passwords on all computers. b. If you don't care about using Pro's advanced features, leave the Simple File Sharing enabled. Simple File Sharing means that Guest (network) is enabled. This means that anyone without a user account on the target system can use its resources. This is a security hole but only you can decide if it matters in your situation. I think it is a good idea to create the identical user accounts/passwords in any case when Vista machines are involved and it isn't an onerous task with home/small networks. 5. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users' home directories (My Documents) or Program Files, but you can share folders inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents folder. See the first link above for details about Vista sharing. ***** Malke -- Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com "Don't Panic!" MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User |