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Can't play .avi's, "COM Surrogate closed"



 
 
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Old February 15th 08, 11:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
zachd [MSFT]
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Default Can't play .avi's, "COM Surrogate closed"


I apologize. I do not understand the current problem that you are trying to
solve. Could you please clarify? Thank you! =)

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2 zachd

I'm from Russia. It's not a cause to know English rather badly then
American
etc but I know I speak English not very well.
But maybe did I write down that message not very intelligible so I speak
this one badly?
If You can so please correct or ask me again.
I want to decide that problem for ever.

Thanks



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Old February 16th 08, 10:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
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Default Can't play .avi's, "COM Surrogate closed"



"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:


I apologize. I do not understand the current problem that you are trying to
solve. Could you please clarify? Thank you! =)

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I wrote it on the previous page. there's last message
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Old April 19th 08, 03:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
evan s
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Default help w/ .AVIs

i kno i doidnt install the ripper u did, and i dont kno what program cause it, so i uninstalled all the programs that i installed right befor the prob. anyway, i think about a week ago i started getting that message when i wnet to a fold w/ .AVIs in them(such as my collection of anime) when i looked up thing about the message, it i found many people saying the had problems playing .AVIs, vut at the time i didnt have trouble playing them after i updated my codecs(ive used the same codec brand for a long time, so i kno its not the codecs) anyway, yesterday i got a new episode of anime and tried to watch it when i discovered it had an X in a red circle next to the file name in the WMP now playing list, and was only playing the audio, no video!!! frustrated, i tried again, and as i watched the bottom of the screen, it said aquiring codec(usualy does) for longer then it usually does. i decided that maybe the vid. itself had problems, so i tried another .avi that i knew worked, and i had the same problem. so far, every place i've been to only tells me A)how to stop the message, not get it to play .AVIs again, B)That i need to get codecs, ect. to play the format, which i already have, and C) to uninstall some software i never in my live have had on this computer
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Old April 19th 08, 04:23 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
evan s
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Default nevermind

i don't know why this didn't work the other times i tried, but i guess that the current version of vista codecs has a problem, so i will temporarily use cccp, and it works, just doesn't have all the codecs i need for other videos, so ill keep tabs on if a new vista codec pack is available
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Old June 13th 08, 01:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
prestage
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Default Can't play .avi's, "COM Surrogate closed"


I have found a fix for this lol type in search ffdshow.ax then right
click, open file location, cut the file to desktop and try to play .avi
files and it should work it happened to me and this worked so give it a
shot?


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Old June 25th 08, 09:28 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
creash
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Default Can't play .avi's, "COM Surrogate closed"

i am having pretty much the same problems as jason, and i do not have the
k-lite codec pack. i have had this problem since a friend of mine downloaded
a dvd ripper/converter onto my computer. i have uninstalled all of this, but
the problem still persists. how do i fix it? can someone answer that?

"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:


K-Lite is generally garbage. If this is all you're seeing, I'd consider you
somewhat lucky.

What's in that ffdshow directory? What files in total are under those
directories? They do some pretty stupid things, so it'd be good to have a
vague understanding of what they've done to your system.

Please don't use K-Lite. I have trouble keeping up with exactly what
horribleness that they're currently doing, but it's got a pretty pathetic
history of breaking systems. Nobody competent should ever be recommending
them. If you need a codec, get that specific codec direct from the vendor
to ensure that you get the latest most stable most secure version. Codec
packs are generally absolute garbage that throw in the kitchen sink as well
as random other incompetent garbage and badness.

It is a real challenge to keep with exactly what each codec pack is doing
badly on any given data. There is NO safe codec pack that I'm aware of.
Even the "safe" ones manage to screw it up. Totally utterly not worth the
cost to users.

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"Jason" wrote in message
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There are no Nero apps installed.

I"m not sure what ffdshow is, but I have the K-Lite codec pack
installed and there's an ffdshow directory underneath Program
Files\K-Lite. Is this what you're talking about?

Oh, and I've reported the errors

Jason

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:09:25 -0700, "zachd [MSFT]"
wrote:


That's marked as Not Reported - you should report these back. I generally
try to make sure that most non-generic crashes relate back to the
appropriate solutions. This particular crash is a little generic, but is
most commonly due to ffdshow.ax being on your system. (nevideo.ax can
also
be a cause of this) Regardless, this should be due to a third party codec
doing bad memory management when AVI thumbnails are being retrieved. Is
FFDShow or Nero on this system?

You can also fix this by turning off the Thumbnail view, but that's rather
overkill.

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Old June 25th 08, 09:34 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
creash
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Default Can't play .avi's, "COM Surrogate closed"

I'm having the COM surrogate problem as well, and i have no codec packs....

"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:


Nope, I actually worked indirectly with them to fix their hideous bugs. You
can confirm via their change logs my claims. I firmly believe in
excellence. ONLY their latest release (3.7.5) or newer should be trusted.
Anything else should probably be considered accidental malware. Plus it's
largely pirated, but I'm not making value judgments on that badness, I'm
just pointing out that aspects were simply indefensibly technically
horrible.

Most codec packs either rip off my work or corrupt things that I did. (If
you've played any multimedia on Windows, you have almost assuredly used my
work, as I'm a senior developer at Microsoft who has also contributed to
multimedia at most major corporations.) I'm strangely enough an expert in
this field, and simply am tired of people making false claims about the
sanity of bad bad work. I apologize that someone misled you too. Sometimes
people might not notice the badness: I'm an expert in this field, and am
paid to notice problems. I *like it* when you don't notice problems, but at
the same time if you're in a dodgy state that's going to bite you in the
rear, I need to point that out as soon as possible so it can be fixed.

Most of the top crashes in Vista multimedia are due to bad codec packs.
Heck, in Vista SP1, even after Windows fixed stuff, the K-Lite codec pack
helped cause the number one crash for (at least) FOUR different multimedia
components.

If anybody from the K-Lite codec team would like to rebut my word, they're
welcome to. But all I'm saying is clearly verifiable given about twenty
minutes of time, so there's really no point in even arguing. They had
serious issues, hopefully they're fixed NOW. But on the other hand I just
got done with a system that had K-Lite ... and of course was borked. Oh
well.

It is my dream that all codec packs will one day not be horrible. I have
made an accurate listing of bad codec packs and why they are bad he
* http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html#divx
, which also includes a detailed and accurate explanation of why K-Lite is
bad.

I have not done a technical analysis of the current package and so cannot
speak to it. The above link simply points out the egregiously bad things
codec packs do and doesn't even bother over the "minor" corruptions they
cause. In consultation, I have found *most* multimedia experts to be
repulsed by codec packs. I respect that some may feel a need for them, but
it is definitely a dangerous field, as my link should confirm.

--
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See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
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"zach10" wrote in message
...

is k-light realy all that bad?? :sarc: all the computers in my home and
the ones in my mom's class have it and there have never bien any
problems what so ever infact it saves me the trouble of getting all the
codecs needed for all the diff kinds of videos that are put in thoses
pc's. Im not saying your wrong but mayby you just got a bad version or
your system dosent agree with it and you bash it for that. just curious
even my friends use it and have no problems.


--
zach10




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Old June 26th 08, 09:13 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
zachd [MSFT]
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Default Can't play .avi's, "COM Surrogate closed"


Could you clarify your exact crash details as supplied by the Problem
Reports and Solutions Center control panel:
http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html#bucket
?

--
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See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
--
"creash" wrote in message
...
I'm having the COM surrogate problem as well, and i have no codec
packs....

"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:


Nope, I actually worked indirectly with them to fix their hideous bugs.
You
can confirm via their change logs my claims. I firmly believe in
excellence. ONLY their latest release (3.7.5) or newer should be
trusted.
Anything else should probably be considered accidental malware. Plus
it's
largely pirated, but I'm not making value judgments on that badness, I'm
just pointing out that aspects were simply indefensibly technically
horrible.

Most codec packs either rip off my work or corrupt things that I did.
(If
you've played any multimedia on Windows, you have almost assuredly used
my
work, as I'm a senior developer at Microsoft who has also contributed to
multimedia at most major corporations.) I'm strangely enough an expert
in
this field, and simply am tired of people making false claims about the
sanity of bad bad work. I apologize that someone misled you too.
Sometimes
people might not notice the badness: I'm an expert in this field, and am
paid to notice problems. I *like it* when you don't notice problems, but
at
the same time if you're in a dodgy state that's going to bite you in the
rear, I need to point that out as soon as possible so it can be fixed.

Most of the top crashes in Vista multimedia are due to bad codec packs.
Heck, in Vista SP1, even after Windows fixed stuff, the K-Lite codec pack
helped cause the number one crash for (at least) FOUR different
multimedia
components.

If anybody from the K-Lite codec team would like to rebut my word,
they're
welcome to. But all I'm saying is clearly verifiable given about twenty
minutes of time, so there's really no point in even arguing. They had
serious issues, hopefully they're fixed NOW. But on the other hand I
just
got done with a system that had K-Lite ... and of course was borked. Oh
well.

It is my dream that all codec packs will one day not be horrible. I have
made an accurate listing of bad codec packs and why they are bad he
* http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html#divx
, which also includes a detailed and accurate explanation of why K-Lite
is
bad.

I have not done a technical analysis of the current package and so cannot
speak to it. The above link simply points out the egregiously bad things
codec packs do and doesn't even bother over the "minor" corruptions they
cause. In consultation, I have found *most* multimedia experts to be
repulsed by codec packs. I respect that some may feel a need for them,
but
it is definitely a dangerous field, as my link should confirm.

--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
--
"zach10" wrote in message
...

is k-light realy all that bad?? :sarc: all the computers in my home and
the ones in my mom's class have it and there have never bien any
problems what so ever infact it saves me the trouble of getting all the
codecs needed for all the diff kinds of videos that are put in thoses
pc's. Im not saying your wrong but mayby you just got a bad version or
your system dosent agree with it and you bash it for that. just curious
even my friends use it and have no problems.


--
zach10





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Old June 26th 08, 08:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
creash
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Default Can't play .avi's, "COM Surrogate closed"

I re-installed DivX, and now I'm not having that problem. Now it just plays
the audio on .avi's, but not the video...GRRRRR lol


"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:


Could you clarify your exact crash details as supplied by the Problem
Reports and Solutions Center control panel:
http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html#bucket
?

--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
--
"creash" wrote in message
...
I'm having the COM surrogate problem as well, and i have no codec
packs....

"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:


Nope, I actually worked indirectly with them to fix their hideous bugs.
You
can confirm via their change logs my claims. I firmly believe in
excellence. ONLY their latest release (3.7.5) or newer should be
trusted.
Anything else should probably be considered accidental malware. Plus
it's
largely pirated, but I'm not making value judgments on that badness, I'm
just pointing out that aspects were simply indefensibly technically
horrible.

Most codec packs either rip off my work or corrupt things that I did.
(If
you've played any multimedia on Windows, you have almost assuredly used
my
work, as I'm a senior developer at Microsoft who has also contributed to
multimedia at most major corporations.) I'm strangely enough an expert
in
this field, and simply am tired of people making false claims about the
sanity of bad bad work. I apologize that someone misled you too.
Sometimes
people might not notice the badness: I'm an expert in this field, and am
paid to notice problems. I *like it* when you don't notice problems, but
at
the same time if you're in a dodgy state that's going to bite you in the
rear, I need to point that out as soon as possible so it can be fixed.

Most of the top crashes in Vista multimedia are due to bad codec packs.
Heck, in Vista SP1, even after Windows fixed stuff, the K-Lite codec pack
helped cause the number one crash for (at least) FOUR different
multimedia
components.

If anybody from the K-Lite codec team would like to rebut my word,
they're
welcome to. But all I'm saying is clearly verifiable given about twenty
minutes of time, so there's really no point in even arguing. They had
serious issues, hopefully they're fixed NOW. But on the other hand I
just
got done with a system that had K-Lite ... and of course was borked. Oh
well.

It is my dream that all codec packs will one day not be horrible. I have
made an accurate listing of bad codec packs and why they are bad he
* http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html#divx
, which also includes a detailed and accurate explanation of why K-Lite
is
bad.

I have not done a technical analysis of the current package and so cannot
speak to it. The above link simply points out the egregiously bad things
codec packs do and doesn't even bother over the "minor" corruptions they
cause. In consultation, I have found *most* multimedia experts to be
repulsed by codec packs. I respect that some may feel a need for them,
but
it is definitely a dangerous field, as my link should confirm.

--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
--
"zach10" wrote in message
...

is k-light realy all that bad?? :sarc: all the computers in my home and
the ones in my mom's class have it and there have never bien any
problems what so ever infact it saves me the trouble of getting all the
codecs needed for all the diff kinds of videos that are put in thoses
pc's. Im not saying your wrong but mayby you just got a bad version or
your system dosent agree with it and you bash it for that. just curious
even my friends use it and have no problems.


--
zach10




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Old June 26th 08, 08:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
zachd [MSFT]
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Default Can't play .avi's, "COM Surrogate closed"


I would still love to know that information as that might enable me to help
others.

What video codec does that video file use?

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"creash" wrote in message
...
I re-installed DivX, and now I'm not having that problem. Now it just plays
the audio on .avi's, but not the video...GRRRRR lol


"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:


Could you clarify your exact crash details as supplied by the Problem
Reports and Solutions Center control panel:
http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html#bucket
?

--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
--
"creash" wrote in message
...
I'm having the COM surrogate problem as well, and i have no codec
packs....

"zachd [MSFT]" wrote:


Nope, I actually worked indirectly with them to fix their hideous
bugs.
You
can confirm via their change logs my claims. I firmly believe in
excellence. ONLY their latest release (3.7.5) or newer should be
trusted.
Anything else should probably be considered accidental malware. Plus
it's
largely pirated, but I'm not making value judgments on that badness,
I'm
just pointing out that aspects were simply indefensibly technically
horrible.

Most codec packs either rip off my work or corrupt things that I did.
(If
you've played any multimedia on Windows, you have almost assuredly
used
my
work, as I'm a senior developer at Microsoft who has also contributed
to
multimedia at most major corporations.) I'm strangely enough an
expert
in
this field, and simply am tired of people making false claims about
the
sanity of bad bad work. I apologize that someone misled you too.
Sometimes
people might not notice the badness: I'm an expert in this field, and
am
paid to notice problems. I *like it* when you don't notice problems,
but
at
the same time if you're in a dodgy state that's going to bite you in
the
rear, I need to point that out as soon as possible so it can be fixed.

Most of the top crashes in Vista multimedia are due to bad codec
packs.
Heck, in Vista SP1, even after Windows fixed stuff, the K-Lite codec
pack
helped cause the number one crash for (at least) FOUR different
multimedia
components.

If anybody from the K-Lite codec team would like to rebut my word,
they're
welcome to. But all I'm saying is clearly verifiable given about
twenty
minutes of time, so there's really no point in even arguing. They had
serious issues, hopefully they're fixed NOW. But on the other hand I
just
got done with a system that had K-Lite ... and of course was borked.
Oh
well.

It is my dream that all codec packs will one day not be horrible. I
have
made an accurate listing of bad codec packs and why they are bad he
* http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html#divx
, which also includes a detailed and accurate explanation of why
K-Lite
is
bad.

I have not done a technical analysis of the current package and so
cannot
speak to it. The above link simply points out the egregiously bad
things
codec packs do and doesn't even bother over the "minor" corruptions
they
cause. In consultation, I have found *most* multimedia experts to be
repulsed by codec packs. I respect that some may feel a need for
them,
but
it is definitely a dangerous field, as my link should confirm.

--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
--
"zach10" wrote in message
...

is k-light realy all that bad?? :sarc: all the computers in my home
and
the ones in my mom's class have it and there have never bien any
problems what so ever infact it saves me the trouble of getting all
the
codecs needed for all the diff kinds of videos that are put in
thoses
pc's. Im not saying your wrong but mayby you just got a bad version
or
your system dosent agree with it and you bash it for that. just
curious
even my friends use it and have no problems.


--
zach10






 




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