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Printing & Sharing from Vista to XP



 
 
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Old August 21st 07, 12:26 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Red Dalek
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Default Printing & Sharing from Vista to XP

I followed the article that is frequently recommended here for printing &
file sharing problems with a Vista to XP with a printer:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx

Everything goes well until the section marked "Accessing a Shared Printer" .
When I click on the XP printer in the Vista Network window, which I can see
per the article, I get the following error: "Windows cannot connect to
printer. Access is Denied."

Then, when I go back to the Network window in Vista, the XP computer
disappears.

So I can't connect to the XP printer, and I also cannot find the XP computer.
Any help appreciated.
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Old August 21st 07, 01:15 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Chuck [MVP]
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Default Printing & Sharing from Vista to XP

On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:26:01 -0700, Red Dalek Red
wrote:

I followed the article that is frequently recommended here for printing &
file sharing problems with a Vista to XP with a printer:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx

Everything goes well until the section marked "Accessing a Shared Printer" .
When I click on the XP printer in the Vista Network window, which I can see
per the article, I get the following error: "Windows cannot connect to
printer. Access is Denied."

Then, when I go back to the Network window in Vista, the XP computer
disappears.

So I can't connect to the XP printer, and I also cannot find the XP computer.
Any help appreciated.


The Microsoft article covers setting the Vista computer up, it doesn't go into
the details of co existing with Windows XP, and of the non Microsoft problems
that may exist.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html

The "access denied" error is typically caused by a personal firewall, or by lack
of assigned permissions.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/mysterious-error-5-aka-access-denied.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ss-denied.html

Is the XP computer running XP Home or Pro? If Pro, using Advanced, or Simple,
File Sharing? Make the Vista Password Protected Sharing setting match! And
make sure that the right account, on both computers, is Activated for network
access!
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...indows-xp.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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Old August 21st 07, 01:34 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Robert L [MVP - Networking]
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Default Printing & Sharing from Vista to XP

Do a simple test. Can you ping XP by IP if the firewall turn off?

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Red Dalek" Red wrote in message ...
I followed the article that is frequently recommended here for printing &
file sharing problems with a Vista to XP with a printer:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx

Everything goes well until the section marked "Accessing a Shared Printer" .
When I click on the XP printer in the Vista Network window, which I can see
per the article, I get the following error: "Windows cannot connect to
printer. Access is Denied."

Then, when I go back to the Network window in Vista, the XP computer
disappears.

So I can't connect to the XP printer, and I also cannot find the XP computer.
Any help appreciated.
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Old August 21st 07, 07:12 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Mick Murphy
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Default Printing & Sharing from Vista to XP

In Vista's Network and Sharing click on Add Network Device and browse to XP's
printer. Don't accidently click on shared user one as that is for other user
acc. on Vista.
And make sure XP's printer has been shared

"Red Dalek" wrote:

I followed the article that is frequently recommended here for printing &
file sharing problems with a Vista to XP with a printer:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx

Everything goes well until the section marked "Accessing a Shared Printer" .
When I click on the XP printer in the Vista Network window, which I can see
per the article, I get the following error: "Windows cannot connect to
printer. Access is Denied."

Then, when I go back to the Network window in Vista, the XP computer
disappears.

So I can't connect to the XP printer, and I also cannot find the XP computer.
Any help appreciated.

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Old August 21st 07, 07:16 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Mick Murphy
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Default Printing & Sharing from Vista to XP

Also in Vista do you have Network Discovery ON, file sharing ON, Network set
to Private, etc.

"Red Dalek" wrote:

I followed the article that is frequently recommended here for printing &
file sharing problems with a Vista to XP with a printer:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx

Everything goes well until the section marked "Accessing a Shared Printer" .
When I click on the XP printer in the Vista Network window, which I can see
per the article, I get the following error: "Windows cannot connect to
printer. Access is Denied."

Then, when I go back to the Network window in Vista, the XP computer
disappears.

So I can't connect to the XP printer, and I also cannot find the XP computer.
Any help appreciated.

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Old August 21st 07, 10:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Red Dalek[_2_]
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Default Printing & Sharing from Vista to XP

Thanks for the links & reply Chuck. However, I'm not making progress. I
cannot see the XP computer on the Vista's Networking window. I have XP Home
and Simple File Sharing is enabled. I enabled Guest authentication. I
activated the guest account properly for network access. I synchronised the
passwords on all accounts on both computer (no passwords for any of them). I
simply cannot see the XP computer on the Vista's Networking window anymore,
let alone file share. The firewall is turned off. I've worked on this problem
for about five hours this past Sunday, and around 2-3 hours each night this
week after work. So I'm trying, but I'm running out of steam and I starting
to think about giving up.





"Chuck [MVP]" wrote:

On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:26:01 -0700, Red Dalek Red
wrote:

I followed the article that is frequently recommended here for printing &
file sharing problems with a Vista to XP with a printer:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx

Everything goes well until the section marked "Accessing a Shared Printer" .
When I click on the XP printer in the Vista Network window, which I can see
per the article, I get the following error: "Windows cannot connect to
printer. Access is Denied."

Then, when I go back to the Network window in Vista, the XP computer
disappears.

So I can't connect to the XP printer, and I also cannot find the XP computer.
Any help appreciated.


The Microsoft article covers setting the Vista computer up, it doesn't go into
the details of co existing with Windows XP, and of the non Microsoft problems
that may exist.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html

The "access denied" error is typically caused by a personal firewall, or by lack
of assigned permissions.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/mysterious-error-5-aka-access-denied.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ss-denied.html

Is the XP computer running XP Home or Pro? If Pro, using Advanced, or Simple,
File Sharing? Make the Vista Password Protected Sharing setting match! And
make sure that the right account, on both computers, is Activated for network
access!
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...indows-xp.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

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Old August 22nd 07, 04:02 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
AliceLC
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Default Printing & Sharing from Vista to XP

I have the same problem as Red. I'm trying to connect to a printer attached
to an XP computer over a wireless network. Another XP computer can print
wirelessly, but the Vista machine cannot. I was able to install the printer
but when I can't get a test page to print. When I try to access the XP
computer's files I get an "Access Denied" message.

I have no personal firewalls
I cannot ping the XP computer from the Vista machine.
The Vista machine cannot see any of the files or use the printer on the host
XP machine
The Vista machine CAN see and access files on the other XP client machine -
both are connected to the home network via wireless adapters.
I have enabled file sharing.
Network Discovery is on
Network is set to private
I can access the Internet
I cannot print from the Vista client.

"Mick Murphy" wrote:

Also in Vista do you have Network Discovery ON, file sharing ON, Network set
to Private, etc.

"Red Dalek" wrote:

I followed the article that is frequently recommended here for printing &
file sharing problems with a Vista to XP with a printer:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx

Everything goes well until the section marked "Accessing a Shared Printer" .
When I click on the XP printer in the Vista Network window, which I can see
per the article, I get the following error: "Windows cannot connect to
printer. Access is Denied."

Then, when I go back to the Network window in Vista, the XP computer
disappears.

So I can't connect to the XP printer, and I also cannot find the XP computer.
Any help appreciated.

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Old August 22nd 07, 05:16 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
AliceLC
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Default Printing & Sharing from Vista to XP

The XP machines are XP Home.
The Vista machine is Vista Business
The Vista machine can print when connected directly to the printer

"AliceLC" wrote:

I have the same problem as Red. I'm trying to connect to a printer attached
to an XP computer over a wireless network. Another XP computer can print
wirelessly, but the Vista machine cannot. I was able to install the printer
but when I can't get a test page to print. When I try to access the XP
computer's files I get an "Access Denied" message.

I have no personal firewalls
I cannot ping the XP computer from the Vista machine.
The Vista machine cannot see any of the files or use the printer on the host
XP machine
The Vista machine CAN see and access files on the other XP client machine -
both are connected to the home network via wireless adapters.
I have enabled file sharing.
Network Discovery is on
Network is set to private
I can access the Internet
I cannot print from the Vista client.

"Mick Murphy" wrote:

Also in Vista do you have Network Discovery ON, file sharing ON, Network set
to Private, etc.

"Red Dalek" wrote:

I followed the article that is frequently recommended here for printing &
file sharing problems with a Vista to XP with a printer:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx

Everything goes well until the section marked "Accessing a Shared Printer" .
When I click on the XP printer in the Vista Network window, which I can see
per the article, I get the following error: "Windows cannot connect to
printer. Access is Denied."

Then, when I go back to the Network window in Vista, the XP computer
disappears.

So I can't connect to the XP printer, and I also cannot find the XP computer.
Any help appreciated.

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Old August 22nd 07, 07:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Chuck [MVP]
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Default Printing & Sharing from Vista to XP

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:28:01 -0700, Red Dalek
wrote:

"Chuck [MVP]" wrote:

On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:26:01 -0700, Red Dalek Red
wrote:

I followed the article that is frequently recommended here for printing &
file sharing problems with a Vista to XP with a printer:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx

Everything goes well until the section marked "Accessing a Shared Printer" .
When I click on the XP printer in the Vista Network window, which I can see
per the article, I get the following error: "Windows cannot connect to
printer. Access is Denied."

Then, when I go back to the Network window in Vista, the XP computer
disappears.

So I can't connect to the XP printer, and I also cannot find the XP computer.
Any help appreciated.


The Microsoft article covers setting the Vista computer up, it doesn't go into
the details of co existing with Windows XP, and of the non Microsoft problems
that may exist.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html

The "access denied" error is typically caused by a personal firewall, or by lack
of assigned permissions.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/mysterious-error-5-aka-access-denied.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ss-denied.html

Is the XP computer running XP Home or Pro? If Pro, using Advanced, or Simple,
File Sharing? Make the Vista Password Protected Sharing setting match! And
make sure that the right account, on both computers, is Activated for network
access!
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...indows-xp.html


Thanks for the links & reply Chuck. However, I'm not making progress. I
cannot see the XP computer on the Vista's Networking window. I have XP Home
and Simple File Sharing is enabled. I enabled Guest authentication. I
activated the guest account properly for network access. I synchronised the
passwords on all accounts on both computer (no passwords for any of them). I
simply cannot see the XP computer on the Vista's Networking window anymore,
let alone file share. The firewall is turned off. I've worked on this problem
for about five hours this past Sunday, and around 2-3 hours each night this
week after work. So I'm trying, but I'm running out of steam and I starting
to think about giving up.


Well, it's your computers so you're entitled to give up. But I wouldn't just
yet. Do some basic diagnostic work. Look at logs from "browstat status",
"ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net config workstation", from each
computer, and diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked articles, and
follow instructions precisely (download browstat!):
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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Old August 23rd 07, 12:16 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Red Dalek[_2_]
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Default Printing & Sharing from Vista to XP

Ok, it took the entire family to figure it out, and we did it!

1. For the XP computer, I installed the Link Layer Topology Discovery (LLTD)
Responder
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

2. For the Vista computer, I installed this update: Update for Windows Vista
(KB938979)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

3. This thread helped to actually connect my printer on the XP computer.
http://forums.cnet.com/5208-7589_102...geID=239529 2

I hope this helps some other people. I thank everyone who contributed. This
problem was definitely the toughest computer problem I ever faced. Whew!

"Chuck [MVP]" wrote:

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:28:01 -0700, Red Dalek
wrote:

"Chuck [MVP]" wrote:

On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:26:01 -0700, Red Dalek Red
wrote:

I followed the article that is frequently recommended here for printing &
file sharing problems with a Vista to XP with a printer:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx

Everything goes well until the section marked "Accessing a Shared Printer" .
When I click on the XP printer in the Vista Network window, which I can see
per the article, I get the following error: "Windows cannot connect to
printer. Access is Denied."

Then, when I go back to the Network window in Vista, the XP computer
disappears.

So I can't connect to the XP printer, and I also cannot find the XP computer.
Any help appreciated.

The Microsoft article covers setting the Vista computer up, it doesn't go into
the details of co existing with Windows XP, and of the non Microsoft problems
that may exist.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html

The "access denied" error is typically caused by a personal firewall, or by lack
of assigned permissions.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/mysterious-error-5-aka-access-denied.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ss-denied.html

Is the XP computer running XP Home or Pro? If Pro, using Advanced, or Simple,
File Sharing? Make the Vista Password Protected Sharing setting match! And
make sure that the right account, on both computers, is Activated for network
access!
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...indows-xp.html


Thanks for the links & reply Chuck. However, I'm not making progress. I
cannot see the XP computer on the Vista's Networking window. I have XP Home
and Simple File Sharing is enabled. I enabled Guest authentication. I
activated the guest account properly for network access. I synchronised the
passwords on all accounts on both computer (no passwords for any of them). I
simply cannot see the XP computer on the Vista's Networking window anymore,
let alone file share. The firewall is turned off. I've worked on this problem
for about five hours this past Sunday, and around 2-3 hours each night this
week after work. So I'm trying, but I'm running out of steam and I starting
to think about giving up.


Well, it's your computers so you're entitled to give up. But I wouldn't just
yet. Do some basic diagnostic work. Look at logs from "browstat status",
"ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net config workstation", from each
computer, and diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked articles, and
follow instructions precisely (download browstat!):
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

 




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