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2GB to 4GB, how much of an improvement?



 
 
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Old August 27th 07, 04:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Alfred Kaufmann
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Default 2GB to 4GB, how much of an improvement?

I am thinking of going to 4GB ram and I wonder if it is worth it? The
only reason I am thinking of doing it is to turn off virtual memory
and eliminate swapping on the hard drive.

Please let me know your experience if you have done this upgrade.

Al


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Old August 27th 07, 04:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
JW
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Default 2GB to 4GB, how much of an improvement?

Since you are using Vista installing a fast 2GB lash drive or card and
configuring it for Ready Boost, which serves as a high speed cache drive for
your virtual memory, may be a lot less expensive solution.
"Alfred Kaufmann" wrote in message
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I am thinking of going to 4GB ram and I wonder if it is worth it? The
only reason I am thinking of doing it is to turn off virtual memory
and eliminate swapping on the hard drive.

Please let me know your experience if you have done this upgrade.

Al



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Old September 3rd 07, 10:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Diamontina Cocktail
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Default 2GB to 4GB, how much of an improvement?


"JW" wrote in message
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Since you are using Vista installing a fast 2GB lash drive or card and


Those 2gig "lash drives" can really hurt, though! Something for the S&M
lovers!


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Old August 27th 07, 04:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Richard Urban
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Default 2GB to 4GB, how much of an improvement?

Little to no improvement if you run "normal" applications.

You will still need the pagefile.

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)


"Alfred Kaufmann" wrote in message
...
I am thinking of going to 4GB ram and I wonder if it is worth it? The
only reason I am thinking of doing it is to turn off virtual memory
and eliminate swapping on the hard drive.

Please let me know your experience if you have done this upgrade.

Al



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Old August 27th 07, 05:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
JW
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Default 2GB to 4GB, how much of an improvement?

He will not need to use the page file until the programs/data required to be
kept in memory use up all of the extra 2GB in his system.
Alfred,
If you are running Vista 32 you will probably only get the benefit of a
little over 1GB of the extra memory you add. See the following:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605/en-us


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"Richard Urban" wrote in message
...
Little to no improvement if you run "normal" applications.

You will still need the pagefile.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)


"Alfred Kaufmann" wrote in message
...
I am thinking of going to 4GB ram and I wonder if it is worth it? The
only reason I am thinking of doing it is to turn off virtual memory
and eliminate swapping on the hard drive.

Please let me know your experience if you have done this upgrade.

Al




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Old August 27th 07, 08:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Alfred Kaufmann
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Default 2GB to 4GB, how much of an improvement?

Thanks for the information everyone! I have Vista 64bit, an AM2
motherboard and an AMD X2 64 processor but I can't find this "memory
remap" option in my bios. Also from what I have been reading this
upgrade is best avoided. :-(

Al


On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:26:20 -0700, "JW" wrote:

He will not need to use the page file until the programs/data required to be
kept in memory use up all of the extra 2GB in his system.
Alfred,
If you are running Vista 32 you will probably only get the benefit of a
little over 1GB of the extra memory you add. See the following:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605/en-us


.
"Richard Urban" wrote in message
...
Little to no improvement if you run "normal" applications.

You will still need the pagefile.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)


"Alfred Kaufmann" wrote in message
...
I am thinking of going to 4GB ram and I wonder if it is worth it? The
only reason I am thinking of doing it is to turn off virtual memory
and eliminate swapping on the hard drive.

Please let me know your experience if you have done this upgrade.

Al



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Old August 27th 07, 11:23 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
jabloomf1230
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Default 2GB to 4GB, how much of an improvement?

What's your brand and model of MB? It's new enough (AM2) and it should
have that option. If not, there may be a BIOS update for your MB that
adds that option to the BIOS setup.

The main problem with going to 4MB is that some of the earlier versions
of nVidia Vista graphics drivers did not work properly with SOME
graphics cards and 4 GB of system RAM. Else, there shouldn't be a
problem with Vista x64.

Alfred Kaufmann wrote:
Thanks for the information everyone! I have Vista 64bit, an AM2
motherboard and an AMD X2 64 processor but I can't find this "memory
remap" option in my bios. Also from what I have been reading this
upgrade is best avoided. :-(

Al


On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:26:20 -0700, "JW" wrote:

He will not need to use the page file until the programs/data required to be
kept in memory use up all of the extra 2GB in his system.
Alfred,
If you are running Vista 32 you will probably only get the benefit of a
little over 1GB of the extra memory you add. See the following:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605/en-us


.
"Richard Urban" wrote in message
...
Little to no improvement if you run "normal" applications.

You will still need the pagefile.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)


"Alfred Kaufmann" wrote in message
...
I am thinking of going to 4GB ram and I wonder if it is worth it? The
only reason I am thinking of doing it is to turn off virtual memory
and eliminate swapping on the hard drive.

Please let me know your experience if you have done this upgrade.

Al


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Old August 28th 07, 01:50 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Alfred Kaufmann
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Default 2GB to 4GB, how much of an improvement?

It is an Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard and the documentation reads
that it supports up to 8GB of ram. I do have their lastest bios
installed but their is no such option of memory remapping. They
advertise the motherboard for Vista so maybe they will have a fix with
their next bios update.

Al


On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:23:11 -0400, jabloomf1230
wrote:

What's your brand and model of MB? It's new enough (AM2) and it should
have that option. If not, there may be a BIOS update for your MB that
adds that option to the BIOS setup.

The main problem with going to 4MB is that some of the earlier versions
of nVidia Vista graphics drivers did not work properly with SOME
graphics cards and 4 GB of system RAM. Else, there shouldn't be a
problem with Vista x64.

Alfred Kaufmann wrote:
Thanks for the information everyone! I have Vista 64bit, an AM2
motherboard and an AMD X2 64 processor but I can't find this "memory
remap" option in my bios. Also from what I have been reading this
upgrade is best avoided. :-(

Al


On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:26:20 -0700, "JW" wrote:

He will not need to use the page file until the programs/data required to be
kept in memory use up all of the extra 2GB in his system.
Alfred,
If you are running Vista 32 you will probably only get the benefit of a
little over 1GB of the extra memory you add. See the following:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605/en-us


.
"Richard Urban" wrote in message
...
Little to no improvement if you run "normal" applications.

You will still need the pagefile.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)


"Alfred Kaufmann" wrote in message
...
I am thinking of going to 4GB ram and I wonder if it is worth it? The
only reason I am thinking of doing it is to turn off virtual memory
and eliminate swapping on the hard drive.

Please let me know your experience if you have done this upgrade.

Al


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Old September 15th 07, 11:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
nweissma
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Default 2GB to 4GB, how much of an improvement?

i am curious: what did you read that recommends against adding system memory?

"Alfred Kaufmann" wrote:

Thanks for the information everyone! I have Vista 64bit, an AM2
motherboard and an AMD X2 64 processor but I can't find this "memory
remap" option in my bios. Also from what I have been reading this
upgrade is best avoided. :-(

Al


On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:26:20 -0700, "JW" wrote:

He will not need to use the page file until the programs/data required to be
kept in memory use up all of the extra 2GB in his system.
Alfred,
If you are running Vista 32 you will probably only get the benefit of a
little over 1GB of the extra memory you add. See the following:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605/en-us


.
"Richard Urban" wrote in message
...
Little to no improvement if you run "normal" applications.

You will still need the pagefile.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)


"Alfred Kaufmann" wrote in message
...
I am thinking of going to 4GB ram and I wonder if it is worth it? The
only reason I am thinking of doing it is to turn off virtual memory
and eliminate swapping on the hard drive.

Please let me know your experience if you have done this upgrade.

Al




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Old August 31st 07, 10:27 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Patrick
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Default 2GB to 4GB, how much of an improvement?

Hm,

yes, the pagefile is still usefull. Not needed if you use "applications".
This depends on what you call normal applications!

Little to no improvement is absolute BS!
I definatly got a big performance increase when I went from 2 to 4Gb in my
Opteron185 with 8800GTX.

Photoshop got faster, Word2007 starts faster, most games I play perform
better.



"Richard Urban" wrote in message
...
Little to no improvement if you run "normal" applications.

You will still need the pagefile.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)


"Alfred Kaufmann" wrote in message
...
I am thinking of going to 4GB ram and I wonder if it is worth it? The
only reason I am thinking of doing it is to turn off virtual memory
and eliminate swapping on the hard drive.

Please let me know your experience if you have done this upgrade.

Al




 




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