On my desktop, overnight last night for example, I pressed the "power"
(sleep) button on the Windows Vista start menu, and I woke up with a
screensaver on my screen (in other words, it turns itself back on in the
middle of the night). Is this a common experience?

-Rob

DIV"Gary Mount" > wrote in message
.../DIV On my desktop computer
I can turn the power off after it has gone into sleep
mode, and it will resume as if it had gone into hibernate mode.
I don't know if it works the same way for a laptop though.
Once I can get the RC1 I will put more ram into my laptop and give it a
try.

"Rob Wilkens" wrote in message
...
I only have beta 2 and wasn't brave enough to install it on my laptop (it
claimed, from memory, that to install it on my laptop I would have to LOSE
all of my program files/settings because it could not upgrade)

But I have a question:

Is this "cheap trick" of microsoft making the default "Power Off" option
to "Sleep" also the default in newer versions and on laptops? I ask
because I know "sleep" mode (versus hibernate mode) uses power, and
laptops have limited battery life. Sleeping on a laptop is stupid
because if the battery goes your programs die in the middle of what they
were doing without caches flushed to disk, etc. (I once disconnected a
USB drive in Windows XP while the computer was asleep and when the
computer came back up it claimed there was more to write to the disk and
that that data was now lost --- what I had written to the disk was a
complete Ghost (PQDI) backup - about an hour or two worth of work, I
wasn't happy).

-Rob

I too am having the same problem -- the computer turns itself on. Quite
annoying really because it makes a lot of noise and its in my bedroom.

Is this by design and is there an option somewhere where you can specify how
long before it wakes up

"Rob Wilkens" wrote:

On my desktop, overnight last night for example, I pressed the "power"
(sleep) button on the Windows Vista start menu, and I woke up with a
screensaver on my screen (in other words, it turns itself back on in the
middle of the night). Is this a common experience?

-Rob

DIV"Gary Mount" wrote in message
.../DIV On my desktop computer
I can turn the power off after it has gone into sleep
mode, and it will resume as if it had gone into hibernate mode.
I don't know if it works the same way for a laptop though.
Once I can get the RC1 I will put more ram into my laptop and give it a
try.

"Rob Wilkens" wrote in message
...
I only have beta 2 and wasn't brave enough to install it on my laptop (it
claimed, from memory, that to install it on my laptop I would have to LOSE
all of my program files/settings because it could not upgrade)

But I have a question:

Is this "cheap trick" of microsoft making the default "Power Off" option
to "Sleep" also the default in newer versions and on laptops? I ask
because I know "sleep" mode (versus hibernate mode) uses power, and
laptops have limited battery life. Sleeping on a laptop is stupid
because if the battery goes your programs die in the middle of what they
were doing without caches flushed to disk, etc. (I once disconnected a
USB drive in Windows XP while the computer was asleep and when the
computer came back up it claimed there was more to write to the disk and
that that data was now lost --- what I had written to the disk was a
complete Ghost (PQDI) backup - about an hour or two worth of work, I
wasn't happy).

-Rob

It is a feature if you have a BIOS "wake on...." feature enabled. There
isn't timing involved, it's initiated by activity being detected by
hardware, most common is the "wake on lan" and "wake on ring" features. The
former may react to network activity, the latter to the phone ringing.
Either can cause the system to power up.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"dw" wrote in message
...
I too am having the same problem -- the computer turns itself on. Quite
annoying really because it makes a lot of noise and its in my bedroom.

Is this by design and is there an option somewhere where you can specify
how
long before it wakes up

"Rob Wilkens" wrote:

On my desktop, overnight last night for example, I pressed the "power"
(sleep) button on the Windows Vista start menu, and I woke up with a
screensaver on my screen (in other words, it turns itself back on in the
middle of the night). Is this a common experience?

-Rob

DIV"Gary Mount" wrote in message
.../DIV On my desktop
computer
I can turn the power off after it has gone into sleep
mode, and it will resume as if it had gone into hibernate mode.
I don't know if it works the same way for a laptop though.
Once I can get the RC1 I will put more ram into my laptop and give it a
try.

"Rob Wilkens" wrote in message
...
I only have beta 2 and wasn't brave enough to install it on my laptop
(it
claimed, from memory, that to install it on my laptop I would have to
LOSE
all of my program files/settings because it could not upgrade)

But I have a question:

Is this "cheap trick" of microsoft making the default "Power Off"
option
to "Sleep" also the default in newer versions and on laptops? I ask
because I know "sleep" mode (versus hibernate mode) uses power, and
laptops have limited battery life. Sleeping on a laptop is stupid
because if the battery goes your programs die in the middle of what
they
were doing without caches flushed to disk, etc. (I once disconnected
a
USB drive in Windows XP while the computer was asleep and when the
computer came back up it claimed there was more to write to the disk
and
that that data was now lost --- what I had written to the disk was a
complete Ghost (PQDI) backup - about an hour or two worth of work, I
wasn't happy).

-Rob