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Router Problem on Vista Machines



 
 
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Old September 1st 07, 10:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
rmgalante@galaware.com
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Default Router Problem on Vista Machines

I have a home network with a Linksys BEFW11S4 wireless access point
and router. I have one server running W2k3, one desktop running XP Pro
SP2 and two laptops running XP Pro SP2 (the laptops rarely run
simultaneously). Everything was working fine for years.

Then I bought an wireless HP laptop with Vista Ultimate 64-bit
operating system. Every time I bring that machine on the network, my
router has to be restarted. It works for a couple of minutes, and the
wireless network on the new machine goes down again. If I try to use
file sharing from an XP machine to the Vista machine, the network goes
down, and explorer hangs. The file transfer fails and I have to
restart the router. Sometimes I have to reboot the machine to get rid
of the Copy File dialog box, which is hung and won't go away. I can't
logoff either; it just hangs and hangs when its in this state.

I thought something was wrong with my router, but the problem only
occurs when I turn on the Vista laptop.

I bought my daughter a laptop with Vista Home Premium. That laptop has
the same problem. The wireless network disconnects, especially when I
am trying to copy files from XP to Vista..

This is bad. I am unable to use the wireless network with my Vista
machines. And file sharing between XP and Vista 64-bit machine hangs
the Vista machine. I have to shut the machine off to get it to
recover.

So far my impression of Vista is not good. I am going to buy an 8 port
wireless access point and router so I can connect my Vista machines
directly to the router. I should get a faster connection that way.
This wireless networking is wasting alot of my time.

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Old September 1st 07, 10:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
rmgalante@galaware.com
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On Sep 1, 6:08 pm, wrote:
I have a home network with a Linksys BEFW11S4 wireless access point
and router. I have one server running W2k3, one desktop running XP Pro
SP2 and two laptops running XP Pro SP2 (the laptops rarely run
simultaneously). Everything was working fine for years.

Then I bought an wireless HP laptop with Vista Ultimate 64-bit
operating system. Every time I bring that machine on the network, my
router has to be restarted. It works for a couple of minutes, and the
wireless network on the new machine goes down again. If I try to use
file sharing from an XP machine to the Vista machine, the network goes
down, and explorer hangs. The file transfer fails and I have to
restart the router. Sometimes I have to reboot the machine to get rid
of the Copy File dialog box, which is hung and won't go away. I can't
logoff either; it just hangs and hangs when its in this state.

I thought something was wrong with my router, but the problem only
occurs when I turn on the Vista laptop.

I bought my daughter a laptop with Vista Home Premium. That laptop has
the same problem. The wireless network disconnects, especially when I
am trying to copy files from XP to Vista..

This is bad. I am unable to use the wireless network with my Vista
machines. And file sharing between XP and Vista 64-bit machine hangs
the Vista machine. I have to shut the machine off to get it to
recover.

So far my impression of Vista is not good. I am going to buy an 8 port
wireless access point and router so I can connect my Vista machines
directly to the router. I should get a faster connection that way.
This wireless networking is wasting alot of my time.


As a test, I found a network cable lying around my office. I set the
Vista 64-bit machine's wireless connection so that it wouldn't
automatically connect to the wireless network, if it found it. Then I
created a local area network connection and connected the network
cable between my router and my Vista 64-bit machine.

Now, file sharing works. I am able to copy large files and entire
directories from machines on the wireless network (which are running
XP Pro SP2). And my router is not getting hung up. Only time will
tell. But it looks like Vista's wireless network stack is the problem.

By the way, my network is not using DHCP. All my machines have static
ip addresses.

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Old September 4th 07, 10:54 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
rmgalante@galaware.com
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On Sep 2, 6:30 am, Barb Bowman wrote:
that particular Linksys router is quite old. check for a firmware
update. Then seehttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/932134and run the
test athttp://www.microsoft.com/windows/using/tools/igd/default.mspx

You really should consider replacing the router.

On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 15:57:55 -0700, wrote:
As a test, I found a network cable lying around my office. I set the
Vista 64-bit machine's wireless connection so that it wouldn't
automatically connect to the wireless network, if it found it. Then I
created a local area network connection and connected the network
cable between my router and my Vista 64-bit machine.


Now, file sharing works. I am able to copy large files and entire
directories from machines on the wireless network (which are running
XP Pro SP2). And my router is not getting hung up. Only time will
tell. But it looks like Vista's wireless network stack is the problem.


By the way, my network is not using DHCP. All my machines have static
ip addresses.


--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVPhttp://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspxhttp://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/


Thanks for your response.

Here is an update. I've found that the machine running Vista Ultimate
(a 64-bit machine), is the primary culprit for disrupting my network.
I have that machine connected directly to a router port. Since I did
that, my network has settled. The machine running Vista Home Premium
is able to communicate with other machines on the network without
disrupting the network. I am able to copy files to the Vista Home
Premium machine (wireless) from the Vista Ultimate 64-bit machine
(direct) pretty quickly. But copying from XP Pro SP 2 (wireless) to
the Vista 64-bit machine (direct) is pathetically slow, although it
does work.

I have considered buying a new router, and I will one day. But I'm
waiting for the N routers to come down in price first. Besides, I not
interested in throwing more hardware at Vista. What I have is adequate
for my purposes, as long as I don't try to use the wireless network on
my 64-bit Vista machine.

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Old September 4th 07, 12:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Barb Bowman
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Default Router Problem on Vista Machines

exactly what wireless is in this machine? could you post the text
output from ipconfig /all please?

On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 03:54:10 -0700, wrote:


Thanks for your response.

Here is an update. I've found that the machine running Vista Ultimate
(a 64-bit machine), is the primary culprit for disrupting my network.
I have that machine connected directly to a router port. Since I did
that, my network has settled. The machine running Vista Home Premium
is able to communicate with other machines on the network without
disrupting the network. I am able to copy files to the Vista Home
Premium machine (wireless) from the Vista Ultimate 64-bit machine
(direct) pretty quickly. But copying from XP Pro SP 2 (wireless) to
the Vista 64-bit machine (direct) is pathetically slow, although it
does work.

I have considered buying a new router, and I will one day. But I'm
waiting for the N routers to come down in price first. Besides, I not
interested in throwing more hardware at Vista. What I have is adequate
for my purposes, as long as I don't try to use the wireless network on
my 64-bit Vista machine.

--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
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Old September 5th 07, 10:38 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
rmgalante@galaware.com
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On Sep 4, 8:20 am, Barb Bowman wrote:
exactly what wireless is in this machine? could you post the text
output from ipconfig /all please?





On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 03:54:10 -0700, wrote:

Thanks for your response.


Here is an update. I've found that the machine running Vista Ultimate
(a 64-bit machine), is the primary culprit for disrupting my network.
I have that machine connected directly to a router port. Since I did
that, my network has settled. The machine running Vista Home Premium
is able to communicate with other machines on the network without
disrupting the network. I am able to copy files to the Vista Home
Premium machine (wireless) from the Vista Ultimate 64-bit machine
(direct) pretty quickly. But copying from XP Pro SP 2 (wireless) to
the Vista 64-bit machine (direct) is pathetically slow, although it
does work.


I have considered buying a new router, and I will one day. But I'm
waiting for the N routers to come down in price first. Besides, I not
interested in throwing more hardware at Vista. What I have is adequate
for my purposes, as long as I don't try to use the wireless network on
my 64-bit Vista machine.


--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVPhttp://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspxhttp://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/- Hide quoted text -

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Here is the output from the ipconfig /all commad. Thanks for your
help.

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Vista64a
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 802.11a/b/g WLAN
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1A-73-68-5F-DE
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Ethernet adapter Bluetooth Network Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Bluetooth Device (Personal Area
Network)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1F-9C-E1-31-80
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce Networking
Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1F-9C-E1-31-80
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::37da:8989:1aef:
7192%8(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.17.119(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.17.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 22.50.157.101
22.50.157.102
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{C26294BC-5516-4293-
A9B2-2F1080703DD2}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{06E28D12-4CF0-4560-AC2A-
D649D41B7A0D}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 9:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.{A744DCC6-B638-4C24-8EA6-
C8D0411CBA4C}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::5efe:
10.10.10.119%9(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 22.50.157.101
22.50.157.102
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 10:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 6TO4 Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 12:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-
Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

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Old September 8th 07, 07:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
cocodrileando@gmail.com
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Well I have a brand new linksys router (WRT54GC), which of course
isn't obsolete or old. And I have exactly the same problem. Running
Microsoft's test it showed up that my router doesnt support uPnP.
If you are lucky like I am, and your problem is with bittorrent, you
can disable uPnP features on it. Native windows file transfers are
another thing. Anyone knows how to disable these functions?
I find hard to believe that this guys of Microsoft never heard about
"backward compatibiliy". My friend, who owns the laptop, was about to
uninstall Vista. It is really stupid to say that your router is
obsolete. What will be the next step? Next windows version will say:
You have to replace your house, its obsolete for Windows XXX. Buy only
the houses with the Vista XXX.
Thanks in advance.

On 2 sep, 12:30, Barb Bowman wrote:
that particular Linksysrouteris quite old. check for a firmware
update. Then seehttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/932134and run the
test athttp://www.microsoft.com/windows/using/tools/igd/default.mspx

You really should consider replacing therouter.



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Old September 8th 07, 08:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Barb Bowman
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http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934430/en-us

On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 12:18:27 -0700, wrote:

Well I have a brand new linksys router (WRT54GC), which of course
isn't obsolete or old. And I have exactly the same problem. Running
Microsoft's test it showed up that my router doesnt support uPnP.
If you are lucky like I am, and your problem is with bittorrent, you
can disable uPnP features on it. Native windows file transfers are
another thing. Anyone knows how to disable these functions?
I find hard to believe that this guys of Microsoft never heard about
"backward compatibiliy". My friend, who owns the laptop, was about to
uninstall Vista. It is really stupid to say that your router is
obsolete. What will be the next step? Next windows version will say:
You have to replace your house, its obsolete for Windows XXX. Buy only
the houses with the Vista XXX.
Thanks in advance.

On 2 sep, 12:30, Barb Bowman wrote:
that particular Linksysrouteris quite old. check for a firmware
update. Then seehttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/932134and run the
test athttp://www.microsoft.com/windows/using/tools/igd/default.mspx

You really should consider replacing therouter.


--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
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Old September 14th 07, 12:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
rmgalante@galaware.com
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On Sep 8, 4:10 pm, Barb Bowman wrote:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934430/en-us





On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 12:18:27 -0700, wrote:
Well I have a brand new linksys router (WRT54GC), which of course
isn't obsolete or old. And I have exactly the same problem. Running
Microsoft's test it showed up that my router doesnt support uPnP.
If you are lucky like I am, and your problem is with bittorrent, you
can disable uPnP features on it. Native windows file transfers are
another thing. Anyone knows how to disable these functions?
I find hard to believe that this guys of Microsoft never heard about
"backward compatibiliy". My friend, who owns the laptop, was about to
uninstall Vista. It is really stupid to say that your router is
obsolete. What will be the next step? Next windows version will say:
You have to replace your house, its obsolete for Windows XXX. Buy only
the houses with the Vista XXX.
Thanks in advance.


On 2 sep, 12:30, Barb Bowman wrote:
that particular Linksysrouteris quite old. check for a firmware
update. Then seehttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/932134andrun the
test athttp://www.microsoft.com/windows/using/tools/igd/default.mspx


You really should consider replacing therouter.


--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVPhttp://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspxhttp://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/- Hide quoted text -

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You've been very helpful Barb. Thanks.

 




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