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Mapped share access over VPN solution



 
 
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Old September 20th 07, 12:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Russell Reid
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Default Mapped share access over VPN solution

I have fought this one for months. Mapped drives that worked fine in the
office were not accessible over a VPN connection. I searched and searched
for a solution in vain. I tried all of the solutions and hotfixes that
seemed related: The SMB shares hotfix (kb933468), the route metric hotfix
(kb930163), deleting cached credentials (cmdkey.exe /delete /ras), remove
IPv6 for the VPN connection, set the DNS server address explicitly in the
network adapter settings, etc, etc. To no avail.

Turns out the solution was simple. Map the drive with the fully qualified
domain name of the server. We map drives via script so this is a fairly easy
to implement solution. If you map drives via the 'Map Network Drives'
command in 'Computer' then you have to add the domain suffixes manually when
you map the drive. So the format of the mapped drive path should look like
this: '\\server1.contoso.com\fileshares\staff' instead of the default map
for the same share that looks like this: '\\server1\fileshares\staff'. You
have to adjust this in the path window when you map the drive. I have not
found a way yet to alter the map once it is created.

Seems stupid that windows vista doesn't use the FQDN for the map, but you
need to use it for the map to be available over a VPN connection. We us VPN
alot since we travel often. I have held up several Vista upgrades until I
could resolve this one.

I hope this helps any of you who have also been frustrated by this problem.
--
Russell Reid
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Old September 20th 07, 03:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Robert L [MVP - Networking]
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Default Mapped share access over VPN solution

Thank you for sharing your experience with us. The other two options are setup WINS or DNS suffix in the client site for NetBIOS name resolution.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Russell Reid" wrote in message ...
I have fought this one for months. Mapped drives that worked fine in the
office were not accessible over a VPN connection. I searched and searched
for a solution in vain. I tried all of the solutions and hotfixes that
seemed related: The SMB shares hotfix (kb933468), the route metric hotfix
(kb930163), deleting cached credentials (cmdkey.exe /delete /ras), remove
IPv6 for the VPN connection, set the DNS server address explicitly in the
network adapter settings, etc, etc. To no avail.

Turns out the solution was simple. Map the drive with the fully qualified
domain name of the server. We map drives via script so this is a fairly easy
to implement solution. If you map drives via the 'Map Network Drives'
command in 'Computer' then you have to add the domain suffixes manually when
you map the drive. So the format of the mapped drive path should look like
this: '\\server1.contoso.com\fileshares\staff' instead of the default map
for the same share that looks like this: '\\server1\fileshares\staff'. You
have to adjust this in the path window when you map the drive. I have not
found a way yet to alter the map once it is created.

Seems stupid that windows vista doesn't use the FQDN for the map, but you
need to use it for the map to be available over a VPN connection. We us VPN
alot since we travel often. I have held up several Vista upgrades until I
could resolve this one.

I hope this helps any of you who have also been frustrated by this problem.
--
Russell Reid
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Old September 20th 07, 03:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Russell Reid
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Posts: 16
Default Mapped share access over VPN solution

I had tried that, but apparently i didn't go far enough. I had set the com
suffix in the network adapter DNS append suffix box, but not the full
contoso.com suffix that would resolve the address to a FQDN. I think that
the KB on this solution should be updated with an example. So are you saying
that if i set the DNS suffix to eg. 'contoso.com' that I wouldn't have to map
the drives via FQDN path?

In an aside, this is still very different from the way XP worked. It is an
obscure but critical difference that affects the productivity of my users. I
held up Vista upgrades because of this issue.
--
Russell Reid


"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

Thank you for sharing your experience with us. The other two options are setup WINS or DNS suffix in the client site for NetBIOS name resolution.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Russell Reid" wrote in message ...
I have fought this one for months. Mapped drives that worked fine in the
office were not accessible over a VPN connection. I searched and searched
for a solution in vain. I tried all of the solutions and hotfixes that
seemed related: The SMB shares hotfix (kb933468), the route metric hotfix
(kb930163), deleting cached credentials (cmdkey.exe /delete /ras), remove
IPv6 for the VPN connection, set the DNS server address explicitly in the
network adapter settings, etc, etc. To no avail.

Turns out the solution was simple. Map the drive with the fully qualified
domain name of the server. We map drives via script so this is a fairly easy
to implement solution. If you map drives via the 'Map Network Drives'
command in 'Computer' then you have to add the domain suffixes manually when
you map the drive. So the format of the mapped drive path should look like
this: '\\server1.contoso.com\fileshares\staff' instead of the default map
for the same share that looks like this: '\\server1\fileshares\staff'. You
have to adjust this in the path window when you map the drive. I have not
found a way yet to alter the map once it is created.

Seems stupid that windows vista doesn't use the FQDN for the map, but you
need to use it for the map to be available over a VPN connection. We us VPN
alot since we travel often. I have held up several Vista upgrades until I
could resolve this one.

I hope this helps any of you who have also been frustrated by this problem.
--
Russell Reid

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Old September 22nd 07, 02:03 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Robert L [MVP - Networking]
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Posts: 1,227
Default Mapped share access over VPN solution

It is better to setup WINS instead of using DNS suffix because using WINS is setup in the server side while using DNS suffix is in the client side.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Russell Reid" wrote in message ...
I had tried that, but apparently i didn't go far enough. I had set the com
suffix in the network adapter DNS append suffix box, but not the full
contoso.com suffix that would resolve the address to a FQDN. I think that
the KB on this solution should be updated with an example. So are you saying
that if i set the DNS suffix to eg. 'contoso.com' that I wouldn't have to map
the drives via FQDN path?

In an aside, this is still very different from the way XP worked. It is an
obscure but critical difference that affects the productivity of my users. I
held up Vista upgrades because of this issue.
--
Russell Reid


"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

Thank you for sharing your experience with us. The other two options are setup WINS or DNS suffix in the client site for NetBIOS name resolution.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Russell Reid" wrote in message ...
I have fought this one for months. Mapped drives that worked fine in the
office were not accessible over a VPN connection. I searched and searched
for a solution in vain. I tried all of the solutions and hotfixes that
seemed related: The SMB shares hotfix (kb933468), the route metric hotfix
(kb930163), deleting cached credentials (cmdkey.exe /delete /ras), remove
IPv6 for the VPN connection, set the DNS server address explicitly in the
network adapter settings, etc, etc. To no avail.

Turns out the solution was simple. Map the drive with the fully qualified
domain name of the server. We map drives via script so this is a fairly easy
to implement solution. If you map drives via the 'Map Network Drives'
command in 'Computer' then you have to add the domain suffixes manually when
you map the drive. So the format of the mapped drive path should look like
this: '\\server1.contoso.com\fileshares\staff' instead of the default map
for the same share that looks like this: '\\server1\fileshares\staff'. You
have to adjust this in the path window when you map the drive. I have not
found a way yet to alter the map once it is created.

Seems stupid that windows vista doesn't use the FQDN for the map, but you
need to use it for the map to be available over a VPN connection. We us VPN
alot since we travel often. I have held up several Vista upgrades until I
could resolve this one.

I hope this helps any of you who have also been frustrated by this problem.
--
Russell Reid

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Old October 1st 07, 12:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Russell Reid
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Posts: 16
Default Mapped share access over VPN solution

Interesting. We do have WINS setup on our DC. (Server 2003 R2 SP2) Still
had the problem over VPN.
Second, I thought that WINS was no longer required for a Server 2003 network
if you do not have any legacy operating systems. Are you saying that Vista
now requires WINS to function correctly on the network?
--
Russell Reid


"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

It is better to setup WINS instead of using DNS suffix because using WINS is setup in the server side while using DNS suffix is in the client side.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Russell Reid" wrote in message ...
I had tried that, but apparently i didn't go far enough. I had set the com
suffix in the network adapter DNS append suffix box, but not the full
contoso.com suffix that would resolve the address to a FQDN. I think that
the KB on this solution should be updated with an example. So are you saying
that if i set the DNS suffix to eg. 'contoso.com' that I wouldn't have to map
the drives via FQDN path?

In an aside, this is still very different from the way XP worked. It is an
obscure but critical difference that affects the productivity of my users. I
held up Vista upgrades because of this issue.
--
Russell Reid


"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

Thank you for sharing your experience with us. The other two options are setup WINS or DNS suffix in the client site for NetBIOS name resolution.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Russell Reid" wrote in message ...
I have fought this one for months. Mapped drives that worked fine in the
office were not accessible over a VPN connection. I searched and searched
for a solution in vain. I tried all of the solutions and hotfixes that
seemed related: The SMB shares hotfix (kb933468), the route metric hotfix
(kb930163), deleting cached credentials (cmdkey.exe /delete /ras), remove
IPv6 for the VPN connection, set the DNS server address explicitly in the
network adapter settings, etc, etc. To no avail.

Turns out the solution was simple. Map the drive with the fully qualified
domain name of the server. We map drives via script so this is a fairly easy
to implement solution. If you map drives via the 'Map Network Drives'
command in 'Computer' then you have to add the domain suffixes manually when
you map the drive. So the format of the mapped drive path should look like
this: '\\server1.contoso.com\fileshares\staff' instead of the default map
for the same share that looks like this: '\\server1\fileshares\staff'. You
have to adjust this in the path window when you map the drive. I have not
found a way yet to alter the map once it is created.

Seems stupid that windows vista doesn't use the FQDN for the map, but you
need to use it for the map to be available over a VPN connection. We us VPN
alot since we travel often. I have held up several Vista upgrades until I
could resolve this one.

I hope this helps any of you who have also been frustrated by this problem.
--
Russell Reid

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Old October 1st 07, 01:23 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Robert L \(MS-MVP\)
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Posts: 201
Default Mapped share access over VPN solution

As said, it is better to use WINS for VPN. Otherwise, you may do DNS suffix.
This link may give more information about WINS.

Does Windows 2000/2003 domain needs WINSDoes Windows 2000/2003 domain needs
WINS. Q1: Is there a definitive list of the services and operations that
will no longer work in Windows 2003 Server if ...
www.howtonetworking.com/server/wins1.htm


--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com


"Russell Reid" wrote in message
...
Interesting. We do have WINS setup on our DC. (Server 2003 R2 SP2)
Still
had the problem over VPN.
Second, I thought that WINS was no longer required for a Server 2003
network
if you do not have any legacy operating systems. Are you saying that
Vista
now requires WINS to function correctly on the network?
--
Russell Reid


"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

It is better to setup WINS instead of using DNS suffix because using WINS
is setup in the server side while using DNS suffix is in the client side.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Russell Reid" wrote in message
...
I had tried that, but apparently i didn't go far enough. I had set the
com
suffix in the network adapter DNS append suffix box, but not the full
contoso.com suffix that would resolve the address to a FQDN. I think
that
the KB on this solution should be updated with an example. So are you
saying
that if i set the DNS suffix to eg. 'contoso.com' that I wouldn't have
to map
the drives via FQDN path?

In an aside, this is still very different from the way XP worked. It
is an
obscure but critical difference that affects the productivity of my
users. I
held up Vista upgrades because of this issue.
--
Russell Reid


"Robert L [MVP - Networking]" wrote:

Thank you for sharing your experience with us. The other two options

are setup WINS or DNS suffix in the client site for NetBIOS name
resolution.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on

http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on

http://www.HowToNetworking.com
"Russell Reid" wrote in

message ...
I have fought this one for months. Mapped drives that worked fine

in the
office were not accessible over a VPN connection. I searched and

searched
for a solution in vain. I tried all of the solutions and hotfixes

that
seemed related: The SMB shares hotfix (kb933468), the route metric

hotfix
(kb930163), deleting cached credentials (cmdkey.exe /delete /ras),

remove
IPv6 for the VPN connection, set the DNS server address explicitly

in the
network adapter settings, etc, etc. To no avail.

Turns out the solution was simple. Map the drive with the fully

qualified
domain name of the server. We map drives via script so this is a

fairly easy
to implement solution. If you map drives via the 'Map Network

Drives'
command in 'Computer' then you have to add the domain suffixes

manually when
you map the drive. So the format of the mapped drive path should

look like
this: '\\server1.contoso.com\fileshares\staff' instead of the

default map
for the same share that looks like this:

'\\server1\fileshares\staff'. You
have to adjust this in the path window when you map the drive. I

have not
found a way yet to alter the map once it is created.

Seems stupid that windows vista doesn't use the FQDN for the map,

but you
need to use it for the map to be available over a VPN connection.

We us VPN
alot since we travel often. I have held up several Vista upgrades

until I
could resolve this one.

I hope this helps any of you who have also been frustrated by this

problem.
--
Russell Reid



 




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