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Old January 7th 09, 11:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.music_pictures_video
zachd [MSFT]
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Default mp3 cd won't play in car


My apologies: I didn't realize that any new technology didn't have this
functionality. My car CD player, and every CD player in my house, plays
back these CDs fine. So there's two factors at work:
* you have technology that does not support non-finalized CDs
* IMAPI doesn't believe it needs to close CDs after you burn a non-full disc

#2 is generally a feature, #1 is a limitation of the product you bought -
there's tons of ways to produce non-finalized CDs, as you evidently already
know.

I think we can both agree that IMAPI is not the be-all end-all of burning
technologies. It's a pretty useful inbox tool that is bettered by other
options such as Nero. By the same token, your otherwise pretty cool Blue
Ray Player is missing some surprising functionality that everybody else has
supported for years. =\

It looks like you have all the information you'd find useful here. I'm
sorry that such an otherwise cool deck doesn't provide that functionality.
=(

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Zach:


First of all the Car System is in 2007 Dodge Durango, which is new, a
Blue Ray Player which plays Music CDs and MP3 CDs which was manufactured
last year and was purchased for a Xmas gift this last year. So the age
of the equipment is NOT the Issue. The issue is that XP did finalize CDs
when you used the OS to create the CDs where VISTA is not, want proof
anyone try... Simply copy mp3 files to a Record Only or R/W CD and
close the session.... Try this on both an XP and Vista box. In XP you
could finalize the cd by closing the session using drag drop and close,
try this is VISTA.... Then take both CDs and try to play them in a
system that will read data CDs such a car systems that support MP3 or
home DVD or Blue Ray Players...given I am not the only one who has ran
into this issue, I would say the feature changed in VISTA... Oh and we
are not just talking about WMP but the OS, you know the burning feature.
It changed between XP and Vista... If you really want proof just keep
making excuses it is not hard to run a decoder on the CDs after issuing
the close session from both XP and Vista....

Of course applications that are written to use IMAPI will finalize
CDs...

'zachd [MSFT Wrote:
;1127237']Chill, it's an atmosphere of love.

So you're saying you have a very old car audio system that doesn't
support
nonfinalized CDs? I can't imagine any modern CD decks not supporting
nonfinalized CDs.
If you want to FORCE closure/finalization, fill the CD. Until that
point,
it would seem to be logical ~not~ to finalize the CD.

The finalization/non-finalization of CDs is a feature of IMAPI and is
identical between XP and Vista.

So your options:
* get a modern CD deck; or
* fill the CD; or
* use something that explicitly allows finalization such as Nero

WMP has never ever offered some Finalize checkbox. This is an artifact
of
CD Burning and has nothing to do with MP3. The same thing (non-closure
of
non-full-ish CDs) would happen if you burned WMA, MID, DOC, or crackers
to
your CD. "Anti-mp3" conspiracy theory upon this subject is of course
ludicrous. The devs behind MP3 are good people and I've glad to have
personally worked with them. Please don't let your having old CD
hardware
when using a *basic* burning service lead you to invent fake drama
between
people that respect each other. I'll say I like them, but I don't want
to
presume the feeling is mutual, even though I have Christmas cards
downstairs
from them. =)

Anyways, you have three options listed above that should sort you out.
And,
as noted, this has never been a Windows feature ever, so it's not like
anything changed here. =)

Cheers,
-Zach
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Oscar:

Apparently you don't know the difference between reading and jumping

to
conclusions. Audio files take more CD space, but maybe your not aware

of
that. MP3 compression allows for more files per CD... DUH! I am

talking
about creating an MP3 CD using VISTA which does not close sessions

such
devices like DVD players, car audio systems use them... READ THE
THREAD.... So it is a VISTA ISSUE!!!!

Try you see! I have talked with 10 other Vista users and they all
report the same thing... It does not work unless you use third party
software. So like I said I paid more to upgrade from XP to an OS with
less features!!!

You got it OSCAR.....?????


oscar;1125982 Wrote:
According to your heading and your post, it appears that you do not

know
the
dfference between mp3 and audio files.

WMP can easily create audio cd's that are useable in car cd players.

I
do
it all the time.

This appears to be a user problem and not a Vista problem.

Vista is an operating system which allows software such as WMP to
integrate
with the hardware. If you have a problem creating audio CD's you

should
be
looking at the software that converts the MP3 to audio or the

hardware
involved.

Your post name, "VistaIsTickingMe Off", suggests that you would

better
serve
yourself by reading a thick book on how Vista and its features work

so
you
won't get confused by such simple tasks as creating an audio CD.
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"VistaIsTickingMeOFF" wrote:


You said it, I cannot believe Microsoft would stoop so low, this I

am
sure was by design... you know MP3 was not their format to begin

with
so
why support this going forward.... I paid more for their new OS

Cause
I
was told it would do more and now I am getting less... Like to see
this
one in their Mojave Experiment...LOL I sure hope they learned a
lesson,
other wise this PC user will soon become a MAC user!


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