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Advice on Windows Boot Manager



 
 
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Old October 10th 07, 12:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
Ger68
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Default Advice on Windows Boot Manager

I have XP installed on a partition on 1 HDD and Vista Ultimate installed on a
separate Drive. The thing is I do not have the Windows Boot Manager when I
boot up with the OS options. I can only achieve this by changiing the Boot
Device in Bios, so I don't think any boot files are damaged. In Startup and
Recovery on both systems only one OS is recognised and when I tried Third
Party software like VistaBootPro or Easy BCD I can only find one OS also.
I will probably have to reinstall anyway as when I now enter Vista I get a
Black Screen with My Documents open and I have to start Win Explorer Manually
in Task Manager.
Is It important to leave the XP installed Drive connected to the Motherboard
when installing Vista. Is this necessary for the Windows Boot Manager Option
or will Vista install Drivers etc on the XP drive causing both Drives to run
on Boot up.
Is there another way I can find the Windows Boot Manager.
Thanx for any Help
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Old October 10th 07, 03:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
peter
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Default Advice on Windows Boot Manager

If you disconnect the XP drive Vista cannot overwrite the XP bootmanager
with its own....maybe thats how you got here in the 1st place.
A disconnected drive cannot be seen.Vista will install its boot manager on
the drive labeled System Boot under Comp Management/disk management.
Which of the partitions on that 1 HDD is labeled as such???
peter
"Ger68" wrote in message
...
I have XP installed on a partition on 1 HDD and Vista Ultimate installed on
a
separate Drive. The thing is I do not have the Windows Boot Manager when I
boot up with the OS options. I can only achieve this by changiing the Boot
Device in Bios, so I don't think any boot files are damaged. In Startup
and
Recovery on both systems only one OS is recognised and when I tried Third
Party software like VistaBootPro or Easy BCD I can only find one OS also.
I will probably have to reinstall anyway as when I now enter Vista I get a
Black Screen with My Documents open and I have to start Win Explorer
Manually
in Task Manager.
Is It important to leave the XP installed Drive connected to the
Motherboard
when installing Vista. Is this necessary for the Windows Boot Manager
Option
or will Vista install Drivers etc on the XP drive causing both Drives to
run
on Boot up.
Is there another way I can find the Windows Boot Manager.
Thanx for any Help


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Old October 10th 07, 05:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
Gerb68
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Default Advice on Windows Boot Manager

I had Vista installed first. Then to obtain a Dual Boot I did a complete
reinstall by first installing XP on a drive that already had two Partitions.
In Disk Management in XP, XP is installed on one partition labelled Healthy
(Boot) and the other Partition on that Drive is labelled Healthy (System)
In Vista, The Drive Vista is on is Labelled Healthy (System Boot)

"peter" wrote:

If you disconnect the XP drive Vista cannot overwrite the XP bootmanager
with its own....maybe thats how you got here in the 1st place.
A disconnected drive cannot be seen.Vista will install its boot manager on
the drive labeled System Boot under Comp Management/disk management.
Which of the partitions on that 1 HDD is labeled as such???
peter
"Ger68" wrote in message
...
I have XP installed on a partition on 1 HDD and Vista Ultimate installed on
a
separate Drive. The thing is I do not have the Windows Boot Manager when I
boot up with the OS options. I can only achieve this by changiing the Boot
Device in Bios, so I don't think any boot files are damaged. In Startup
and
Recovery on both systems only one OS is recognised and when I tried Third
Party software like VistaBootPro or Easy BCD I can only find one OS also.
I will probably have to reinstall anyway as when I now enter Vista I get a
Black Screen with My Documents open and I have to start Win Explorer
Manually
in Task Manager.
Is It important to leave the XP installed Drive connected to the
Motherboard
when installing Vista. Is this necessary for the Windows Boot Manager
Option
or will Vista install Drivers etc on the XP drive causing both Drives to
run
on Boot up.
Is there another way I can find the Windows Boot Manager.
Thanx for any Help



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Old October 11th 07, 06:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
Andy
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Default Advice on Windows Boot Manager

The drive partition that is identified as System, Boot under Vista
contains the Vista boot manager files.
The drive partition that is identified as System under XP contains the
boot files for XP.
If you want dual boot to occur, the disk containing the XP system
partition must be connected when Vista is installed.

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:32:04 -0700, Gerb68
wrote:

I had Vista installed first. Then to obtain a Dual Boot I did a complete
reinstall by first installing XP on a drive that already had two Partitions.
In Disk Management in XP, XP is installed on one partition labelled Healthy
(Boot) and the other Partition on that Drive is labelled Healthy (System)
In Vista, The Drive Vista is on is Labelled Healthy (System Boot)

"peter" wrote:

If you disconnect the XP drive Vista cannot overwrite the XP bootmanager
with its own....maybe thats how you got here in the 1st place.
A disconnected drive cannot be seen.Vista will install its boot manager on
the drive labeled System Boot under Comp Management/disk management.
Which of the partitions on that 1 HDD is labeled as such???
peter
"Ger68" wrote in message
...
I have XP installed on a partition on 1 HDD and Vista Ultimate installed on
a
separate Drive. The thing is I do not have the Windows Boot Manager when I
boot up with the OS options. I can only achieve this by changiing the Boot
Device in Bios, so I don't think any boot files are damaged. In Startup
and
Recovery on both systems only one OS is recognised and when I tried Third
Party software like VistaBootPro or Easy BCD I can only find one OS also.
I will probably have to reinstall anyway as when I now enter Vista I get a
Black Screen with My Documents open and I have to start Win Explorer
Manually
in Task Manager.
Is It important to leave the XP installed Drive connected to the
Motherboard
when installing Vista. Is this necessary for the Windows Boot Manager
Option
or will Vista install Drivers etc on the XP drive causing both Drives to
run
on Boot up.
Is there another way I can find the Windows Boot Manager.
Thanx for any Help



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Old October 11th 07, 10:02 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
John Barnes
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Default Advice on Windows Boot Manager

The drive labeled 'system' is the first hard drive in boot priority in your
bios and the active primary partition on that drive. (If you change the boot
priority at post time, it can change which is the system drive, but ONLY for
that boot, not for an install) All system files will be installed there.
The system you are running will always be labeled 'boot', since you are
booted into it. If you want Vista to set up the dual boot, you have to have
the XP system visible at install time, otherwise, you can add the legacy
system to your boot using EasyBCD or VistaBootPro, at a later time.

"Gerb68" wrote in message
...
I had Vista installed first. Then to obtain a Dual Boot I did a complete
reinstall by first installing XP on a drive that already had two
Partitions.
In Disk Management in XP, XP is installed on one partition labelled
Healthy
(Boot) and the other Partition on that Drive is labelled Healthy (System)
In Vista, The Drive Vista is on is Labelled Healthy (System Boot)

"peter" wrote:

If you disconnect the XP drive Vista cannot overwrite the XP bootmanager
with its own....maybe thats how you got here in the 1st place.
A disconnected drive cannot be seen.Vista will install its boot manager
on
the drive labeled System Boot under Comp Management/disk management.
Which of the partitions on that 1 HDD is labeled as such???
peter
"Ger68" wrote in message
...
I have XP installed on a partition on 1 HDD and Vista Ultimate installed
on
a
separate Drive. The thing is I do not have the Windows Boot Manager
when I
boot up with the OS options. I can only achieve this by changiing the
Boot
Device in Bios, so I don't think any boot files are damaged. In Startup
and
Recovery on both systems only one OS is recognised and when I tried
Third
Party software like VistaBootPro or Easy BCD I can only find one OS
also.
I will probably have to reinstall anyway as when I now enter Vista I
get a
Black Screen with My Documents open and I have to start Win Explorer
Manually
in Task Manager.
Is It important to leave the XP installed Drive connected to the
Motherboard
when installing Vista. Is this necessary for the Windows Boot Manager
Option
or will Vista install Drivers etc on the XP drive causing both Drives
to
run
on Boot up.
Is there another way I can find the Windows Boot Manager.
Thanx for any Help




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Old October 11th 07, 11:26 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
Gerb68
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Default Advice on Windows Boot Manager

Thanks for the replies . As I satated "when I tried Third
Party software like VistaBootPro or Easy BCD I can only find one OS". I cant
find or add a Legacy or an Earlier Version of Windows. I have had The Drive
with XP installed on connected when I installed Vista. I can Dual Boot(via
Bios) but I was looking for the Choice of OS when I boot up(i.e. Windows Boot
Manager welcome Screen).
I think the problem maybe, although XP Drive is connected It has two
Partitions with XP on the second partition (D) and the First Partion(C) is
labelled (System) in Disk Management. Is this the problem. I was really
hoping not to have to reinstall XP but if this is the issue I will.
Thanx again for the help.


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Old October 11th 07, 11:35 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
John Barnes
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Default Advice on Windows Boot Manager

You have to ADD the legacy drive.

"Gerb68" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the replies . As I satated "when I tried Third
Party software like VistaBootPro or Easy BCD I can only find one OS". I
cant
find or add a Legacy or an Earlier Version of Windows. I have had The
Drive
with XP installed on connected when I installed Vista. I can Dual Boot(via
Bios) but I was looking for the Choice of OS when I boot up(i.e. Windows
Boot
Manager welcome Screen).
I think the problem maybe, although XP Drive is connected It has two
Partitions with XP on the second partition (D) and the First Partion(C) is
labelled (System) in Disk Management. Is this the problem. I was really
hoping not to have to reinstall XP but if this is the issue I will.
Thanx again for the help.



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Old October 11th 07, 11:38 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
John Barnes
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Default Advice on Windows Boot Manager

What do you mean by you can't add it. You can't find the place to add, you
can't figure out how to use it, you get an error message when you boot after
adding (which I assume isn't the problem).
"Gerb68" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the replies . As I satated "when I tried Third
Party software like VistaBootPro or Easy BCD I can only find one OS". I
cant
find or add a Legacy or an Earlier Version of Windows. I have had The
Drive
with XP installed on connected when I installed Vista. I can Dual Boot(via
Bios) but I was looking for the Choice of OS when I boot up(i.e. Windows
Boot
Manager welcome Screen).
I think the problem maybe, although XP Drive is connected It has two
Partitions with XP on the second partition (D) and the First Partion(C) is
labelled (System) in Disk Management. Is this the problem. I was really
hoping not to have to reinstall XP but if this is the issue I will.
Thanx again for the help.



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Old October 11th 07, 12:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
Gerb68
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Default Advice on Windows Boot Manager

When I add Windows Legacy and I locate the Drive with XP Boot files and then
I reboot I get the choice of OS but when I choose XP I always get
File: \ntldr
Status 0xc000000f
The selected entry could not be loaded because the application is missing
or corrupt.
This is when I add in VistaBootPro or EasyBCD

"John Barnes" wrote:

What do you mean by you can't add it. You can't find the place to add, you
can't figure out how to use it, you get an error message when you boot after
adding (which I assume isn't the problem).
"Gerb68" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the replies . As I satated "when I tried Third
Party software like VistaBootPro or Easy BCD I can only find one OS". I
cant
find or add a Legacy or an Earlier Version of Windows. I have had The
Drive
with XP installed on connected when I installed Vista. I can Dual Boot(via
Bios) but I was looking for the Choice of OS when I boot up(i.e. Windows
Boot
Manager welcome Screen).
I think the problem maybe, although XP Drive is connected It has two
Partitions with XP on the second partition (D) and the First Partion(C) is
labelled (System) in Disk Management. Is this the problem. I was really
hoping not to have to reinstall XP but if this is the issue I will.
Thanx again for the help.




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Old October 11th 07, 12:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.installation_setup
John Barnes
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Default Advice on Windows Boot Manager

Copy the ntldr ntdetect.com and boot.ini files from your XP drive to the
vista boot manager drive (system) change the boot.ini file to point to the
proper rdisk (if you have only 2 drives, change to the other (0 or 1)

"Gerb68" wrote in message
...
When I add Windows Legacy and I locate the Drive with XP Boot files and
then
I reboot I get the choice of OS but when I choose XP I always get
File: \ntldr
Status 0xc000000f
The selected entry could not be loaded because the application is missing
or corrupt.
This is when I add in VistaBootPro or EasyBCD

"John Barnes" wrote:

What do you mean by you can't add it. You can't find the place to add,
you
can't figure out how to use it, you get an error message when you boot
after
adding (which I assume isn't the problem).
"Gerb68" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the replies . As I satated "when I tried Third
Party software like VistaBootPro or Easy BCD I can only find one OS". I
cant
find or add a Legacy or an Earlier Version of Windows. I have had The
Drive
with XP installed on connected when I installed Vista. I can Dual
Boot(via
Bios) but I was looking for the Choice of OS when I boot up(i.e.
Windows
Boot
Manager welcome Screen).
I think the problem maybe, although XP Drive is connected It has two
Partitions with XP on the second partition (D) and the First Partion(C)
is
labelled (System) in Disk Management. Is this the problem. I was really
hoping not to have to reinstall XP but if this is the issue I will.
Thanx again for the help.





 




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