On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:32:02 GMT, John Doe
wrote:

Apparently the makers of ZoneAlarm fixed such a problem by
preventing ZoneAlarm from being shut down.

What makes you believe shutting it down is the only possible way to
circumvent it? And why would malware writers choose a method which
makes you as a user suspicious to what is going on. No, no. They will
of course just circumvent your illusionware why letting you continue
to believe all is fine and well.

After that , I have never heard an authoritative claim that an application
snuck through ZoneAlarm.

LOL. Better check your "authoritative" sources then.

Which is why I never use the Windows firewall. Every app thinks
they are special and should be able to contact big brother with
news about me and retrieve info on things they feel I need. Some
companies are especially bad. I know because I don't use Windows
firewall so I see the requests and deny them. Over the years it
seems to have gotten much worse.

I think it comes down to trust. If you don't trust a program -
don't execute it. If you *do* trust it, let it do whatever it is
programmed to do.

Sounds like a symptom of the ones and zeros disease.

No. Sounds like a well considered response to a problem you don't seem
to fully understand.