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trouble with new ram
On 21-Oct-2007, "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote: i bought ram last month i believe, and for some reason i'm getting the blue screen of death sometimes not always. and today was even worse the computer would always give me the blue screen of death, and i waited few hours and turned it on and now it's fine. but i'm tired of the blue screen especially the ram is fine, i will try the ram tester, If you have a floppy drive then run a DOS based memory tester, Doc Memory Ram Diagnostic V2.2 comes to mind, from http://www.simtester.com/ I've never trusted MS$ diagnostics to diagnose anything. IDocMemory does a range of different walk tests to pick up obscure faults like crosstalk between address lines, and can be set to run a large number of cycles as a soak test. I had boot blue screens until I killed most processes prior to shutdown with Process Killer. If shutdown leaves a corrupted file you may get continuous BSOD's until you run Check Disk in Fix Errors mode. Once it finds and repairs crosslinked files, sorts out orphened fragments, and the file tables, it'll come good for a sort while. Could be you have a hardware device like a USB wireless stick, the drivers for which misbehave and screw things up. |
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trouble with new ram
The fact that your memory score rose when reducing the amount installed
suggests that the two sticks were not matched.. -- Mike Hall - MVP http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx Posting Productively.. http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... this is stupid i do a downgrade from 2gb to 1gb of ram and my system score is higher by .1 well, you can see how this feature means nothing usefull and isn't accurate. -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... i can't i don't have an option for this the only thing i can set up is how much ram to use as video memory, the min is 32 and the max is 256, right now i have it set up as 64mb, and it's weird because on the labelit says it's compatible with my type of system, i guess i'll have to call centon the maker of the ram. -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "JW" wrote in message ... Sound like the additional memory is drawing too much power. I suggest that you slow down the memory speed in your BIOS. "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... well first boot is alright but very slow, i'm not surprised about this but first boot will always work fine, it's when the pc has been hot for a while and then i reboot that i have problem -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning, or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop. hummm ok well it wasn't the static because i took all the safety step(i'm A++ classes for computer repair graduated) Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the problems appeared? yes although it wasn't that bad at first it was just every one and a while, but yesterday it was at a point where i couldn't run my pc at all. What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you should consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee compatibility. Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at least order from a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for a refund - *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible. will post back to say what happen when i downgrade the ram, fortunatly i was smart enough to keep the original ram Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan? it might be heat but never had this problem with the original ram, so i don't know. and this pc is brand new there no crud or dust on the monitor or the keyboard even less inside the comparment(i keep this pc very clean, i got ****ed off when i saw a little scratch.) -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "PvdG42" wrote in message ... "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... Run memory tests, but give memory a chance. i did i can't see the result i ran the windows memory diagnosis tool and the result aren't showing the system said it would tell me, but it's not. Ensure that it is the correct type. i use the exact same model that my pc came with pc2-5300 ddr2-667mhz, although i might be wrong i believe the original came with pc2-5300 ddr2-533mhz, don't know if it makes a difference If you are going to pair RAM, ensure that sticks are matched. they are the exact same thing, same maker, same mhz, same amount (1gbx2) If you are using budget makes, do NOT overclock your machine. don't know what you mean by budget makes, but yes i got them cheap 39.99 each, and in my case i can't overclock i'm using a laptop, which i wouldn't know how to overclock this peticular laptop, and i have no need to since it's fast 2.0ghz.(i know how to overclock a computer just not this one) The errors will keep popping up for as long as the machine does not like the configuration installed or if one of the RAM chips is faulty. well if it doesn't like the configuration it will have to though it out because all i can do is change the order of the ram, which doesn't change much because both of them are 1 gb, and as for the faulty ram, it would surprise me because they are even a year old(not even 6 month.) You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning, or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop. Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the problems appeared? What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you should consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee compatibility. Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at least order from a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for a refund - *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible. Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan? |
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how in the hell(sorry for language, just irritated cuz i don't have money to
get new chip and getting the impression getting same but new ram won't help) are you supposed to know if it is though. -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message ... The fact that your memory score rose when reducing the amount installed suggests that the two sticks were not matched.. -- Mike Hall - MVP http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx Posting Productively.. http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... this is stupid i do a downgrade from 2gb to 1gb of ram and my system score is higher by .1 well, you can see how this feature means nothing usefull and isn't accurate. -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... i can't i don't have an option for this the only thing i can set up is how much ram to use as video memory, the min is 32 and the max is 256, right now i have it set up as 64mb, and it's weird because on the labelit says it's compatible with my type of system, i guess i'll have to call centon the maker of the ram. -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "JW" wrote in message ... Sound like the additional memory is drawing too much power. I suggest that you slow down the memory speed in your BIOS. "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... well first boot is alright but very slow, i'm not surprised about this but first boot will always work fine, it's when the pc has been hot for a while and then i reboot that i have problem -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning, or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop. hummm ok well it wasn't the static because i took all the safety step(i'm A++ classes for computer repair graduated) Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the problems appeared? yes although it wasn't that bad at first it was just every one and a while, but yesterday it was at a point where i couldn't run my pc at all. What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you should consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee compatibility. Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at least order from a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for a refund - *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible. will post back to say what happen when i downgrade the ram, fortunatly i was smart enough to keep the original ram Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan? it might be heat but never had this problem with the original ram, so i don't know. and this pc is brand new there no crud or dust on the monitor or the keyboard even less inside the comparment(i keep this pc very clean, i got ****ed off when i saw a little scratch.) -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "PvdG42" wrote in message ... "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... Run memory tests, but give memory a chance. i did i can't see the result i ran the windows memory diagnosis tool and the result aren't showing the system said it would tell me, but it's not. Ensure that it is the correct type. i use the exact same model that my pc came with pc2-5300 ddr2-667mhz, although i might be wrong i believe the original came with pc2-5300 ddr2-533mhz, don't know if it makes a difference If you are going to pair RAM, ensure that sticks are matched. they are the exact same thing, same maker, same mhz, same amount (1gbx2) If you are using budget makes, do NOT overclock your machine. don't know what you mean by budget makes, but yes i got them cheap 39.99 each, and in my case i can't overclock i'm using a laptop, which i wouldn't know how to overclock this peticular laptop, and i have no need to since it's fast 2.0ghz.(i know how to overclock a computer just not this one) The errors will keep popping up for as long as the machine does not like the configuration installed or if one of the RAM chips is faulty. well if it doesn't like the configuration it will have to though it out because all i can do is change the order of the ram, which doesn't change much because both of them are 1 gb, and as for the faulty ram, it would surprise me because they are even a year old(not even 6 month.) You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning, or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop. Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the problems appeared? What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you should consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee compatibility. Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at least order from a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for a refund - *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible. Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan? |
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trouble with new ram
actually it's weird i only have 64mb assigned to it and it works for me
anyway -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "JW" wrote in message ... For Vista you need to allocate 128MB of shared memory if you want to use Aero or flip3d. "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... i can't i don't have an option for this the only thing i can set up is how much ram to use as video memory, the min is 32 and the max is 256, right now i have it set up as 64mb, and it's weird because on the labelit says it's compatible with my type of system, i guess i'll have to call centon the maker of the ram. -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "JW" wrote in message ... Sound like the additional memory is drawing too much power. I suggest that you slow down the memory speed in your BIOS. "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... well first boot is alright but very slow, i'm not surprised about this but first boot will always work fine, it's when the pc has been hot for a while and then i reboot that i have problem -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning, or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop. hummm ok well it wasn't the static because i took all the safety step(i'm A++ classes for computer repair graduated) Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the problems appeared? yes although it wasn't that bad at first it was just every one and a while, but yesterday it was at a point where i couldn't run my pc at all. What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you should consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee compatibility. Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at least order from a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for a refund - *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible. will post back to say what happen when i downgrade the ram, fortunatly i was smart enough to keep the original ram Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan? it might be heat but never had this problem with the original ram, so i don't know. and this pc is brand new there no crud or dust on the monitor or the keyboard even less inside the comparment(i keep this pc very clean, i got ****ed off when i saw a little scratch.) -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "PvdG42" wrote in message ... "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... Run memory tests, but give memory a chance. i did i can't see the result i ran the windows memory diagnosis tool and the result aren't showing the system said it would tell me, but it's not. Ensure that it is the correct type. i use the exact same model that my pc came with pc2-5300 ddr2-667mhz, although i might be wrong i believe the original came with pc2-5300 ddr2-533mhz, don't know if it makes a difference If you are going to pair RAM, ensure that sticks are matched. they are the exact same thing, same maker, same mhz, same amount (1gbx2) If you are using budget makes, do NOT overclock your machine. don't know what you mean by budget makes, but yes i got them cheap 39.99 each, and in my case i can't overclock i'm using a laptop, which i wouldn't know how to overclock this peticular laptop, and i have no need to since it's fast 2.0ghz.(i know how to overclock a computer just not this one) The errors will keep popping up for as long as the machine does not like the configuration installed or if one of the RAM chips is faulty. well if it doesn't like the configuration it will have to though it out because all i can do is change the order of the ram, which doesn't change much because both of them are 1 gb, and as for the faulty ram, it would surprise me because they are even a year old(not even 6 month.) You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning, or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop. Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the problems appeared? What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you should consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee compatibility. Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at least order from a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for a refund - *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible. Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan? |
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ok i thought you would've answered by now but it's ok, i know life keeps us
busy, i had an idea, if the problem that i have is because they aren't paired which i can't understand why they wouldn't be, but never researched ram either so i'll let you tell me why, but what if instead of having two 1gb i use my old 512mb and one 1gb would this would or would i still have the same problem? -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... how in the hell(sorry for language, just irritated cuz i don't have money to get new chip and getting the impression getting same but new ram won't help) are you supposed to know if it is though. -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message ... The fact that your memory score rose when reducing the amount installed suggests that the two sticks were not matched.. -- Mike Hall - MVP http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx Posting Productively.. http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... this is stupid i do a downgrade from 2gb to 1gb of ram and my system score is higher by .1 well, you can see how this feature means nothing usefull and isn't accurate. -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... i can't i don't have an option for this the only thing i can set up is how much ram to use as video memory, the min is 32 and the max is 256, right now i have it set up as 64mb, and it's weird because on the labelit says it's compatible with my type of system, i guess i'll have to call centon the maker of the ram. -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "JW" wrote in message ... Sound like the additional memory is drawing too much power. I suggest that you slow down the memory speed in your BIOS. "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... well first boot is alright but very slow, i'm not surprised about this but first boot will always work fine, it's when the pc has been hot for a while and then i reboot that i have problem -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning, or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop. hummm ok well it wasn't the static because i took all the safety step(i'm A++ classes for computer repair graduated) Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the problems appeared? yes although it wasn't that bad at first it was just every one and a while, but yesterday it was at a point where i couldn't run my pc at all. What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you should consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee compatibility. Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at least order from a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for a refund - *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible. will post back to say what happen when i downgrade the ram, fortunatly i was smart enough to keep the original ram Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan? it might be heat but never had this problem with the original ram, so i don't know. and this pc is brand new there no crud or dust on the monitor or the keyboard even less inside the comparment(i keep this pc very clean, i got ****ed off when i saw a little scratch.) -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "PvdG42" wrote in message ... "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... Run memory tests, but give memory a chance. i did i can't see the result i ran the windows memory diagnosis tool and the result aren't showing the system said it would tell me, but it's not. Ensure that it is the correct type. i use the exact same model that my pc came with pc2-5300 ddr2-667mhz, although i might be wrong i believe the original came with pc2-5300 ddr2-533mhz, don't know if it makes a difference If you are going to pair RAM, ensure that sticks are matched. they are the exact same thing, same maker, same mhz, same amount (1gbx2) If you are using budget makes, do NOT overclock your machine. don't know what you mean by budget makes, but yes i got them cheap 39.99 each, and in my case i can't overclock i'm using a laptop, which i wouldn't know how to overclock this peticular laptop, and i have no need to since it's fast 2.0ghz.(i know how to overclock a computer just not this one) The errors will keep popping up for as long as the machine does not like the configuration installed or if one of the RAM chips is faulty. well if it doesn't like the configuration it will have to though it out because all i can do is change the order of the ram, which doesn't change much because both of them are 1 gb, and as for the faulty ram, it would surprise me because they are even a year old(not even 6 month.) You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning, or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop. Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the problems appeared? What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you should consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee compatibility. Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at least order from a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for a refund - *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible. Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan? |
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wow after typing my last comment i used the encyclopidia about ram, didn't
find much i didn't know exept that the reason why cpu have stop going much faster than 2.0 ghz is because they have hit a "memory wall" basically we are at a point where cpu is practically being slowed down by the ram speed. so when ram speed gets faster we should see computer with 3.0, 4.0, 5.0 ghz cpu(i hope we get there) -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... how in the hell(sorry for language, just irritated cuz i don't have money to get new chip and getting the impression getting same but new ram won't help) are you supposed to know if it is though. -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message ... The fact that your memory score rose when reducing the amount installed suggests that the two sticks were not matched.. -- Mike Hall - MVP http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx Posting Productively.. http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... this is stupid i do a downgrade from 2gb to 1gb of ram and my system score is higher by .1 well, you can see how this feature means nothing usefull and isn't accurate. -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... i can't i don't have an option for this the only thing i can set up is how much ram to use as video memory, the min is 32 and the max is 256, right now i have it set up as 64mb, and it's weird because on the labelit says it's compatible with my type of system, i guess i'll have to call centon the maker of the ram. -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "JW" wrote in message ... Sound like the additional memory is drawing too much power. I suggest that you slow down the memory speed in your BIOS. "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... well first boot is alright but very slow, i'm not surprised about this but first boot will always work fine, it's when the pc has been hot for a while and then i reboot that i have problem -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning, or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop. hummm ok well it wasn't the static because i took all the safety step(i'm A++ classes for computer repair graduated) Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the problems appeared? yes although it wasn't that bad at first it was just every one and a while, but yesterday it was at a point where i couldn't run my pc at all. What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you should consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee compatibility. Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at least order from a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for a refund - *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible. will post back to say what happen when i downgrade the ram, fortunatly i was smart enough to keep the original ram Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan? it might be heat but never had this problem with the original ram, so i don't know. and this pc is brand new there no crud or dust on the monitor or the keyboard even less inside the comparment(i keep this pc very clean, i got ****ed off when i saw a little scratch.) -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "PvdG42" wrote in message ... "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... Run memory tests, but give memory a chance. i did i can't see the result i ran the windows memory diagnosis tool and the result aren't showing the system said it would tell me, but it's not. Ensure that it is the correct type. i use the exact same model that my pc came with pc2-5300 ddr2-667mhz, although i might be wrong i believe the original came with pc2-5300 ddr2-533mhz, don't know if it makes a difference If you are going to pair RAM, ensure that sticks are matched. they are the exact same thing, same maker, same mhz, same amount (1gbx2) If you are using budget makes, do NOT overclock your machine. don't know what you mean by budget makes, but yes i got them cheap 39.99 each, and in my case i can't overclock i'm using a laptop, which i wouldn't know how to overclock this peticular laptop, and i have no need to since it's fast 2.0ghz.(i know how to overclock a computer just not this one) The errors will keep popping up for as long as the machine does not like the configuration installed or if one of the RAM chips is faulty. well if it doesn't like the configuration it will have to though it out because all i can do is change the order of the ram, which doesn't change much because both of them are 1 gb, and as for the faulty ram, it would surprise me because they are even a year old(not even 6 month.) You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning, or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop. Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the problems appeared? What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you should consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee compatibility. Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at least order from a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for a refund - *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible. Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan? |
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trouble with new ram
Matched pairs, as in twins.. some trade in old memory and buy two matching
sticks, same type, speed, manufacturer. The smaller computer outlets will do this generally. As more performance is screwed out of x86, it becomes ever more critical that all components are 'just so'. Re memory, buying non matching sticks will double the memory and it may well work. Most likely, the system will see reduced memory performance. At worst, any gain in memory available will be offset by spurious faults and/or BSODs. Some memory is labeled clearly. Much of it is not, especially budget memory. Budget memory sticks are essentially the same as half decent memory but they have failed to maintain a level of performance expected of 'high performance RAM. Really high performance RAM will cost double that of budget RAM, but high performance is guaranteed. If you look at adverts for RAM, you will see that some is sold in pairs. These have been tested and found to be as close to 100% the same as is possible. One pays a premium for this. CPUs follow much the same pattern. Levels of performance are set, and depending upon how reliable each CPU is will determine whether it is a '4000+', '3800+', '3500+', 3200+', or '3000+'. Lower reliability levels also bring with them less chance of over clocking a system, assuming that the mainboard is 'overclock' capable. -- Mike Hall - MVP http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx Posting Productively.. http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... ok i thought you would've answered by now but it's ok, i know life keeps us busy, i had an idea, if the problem that i have is because they aren't paired which i can't understand why they wouldn't be, but never researched ram either so i'll let you tell me why, but what if instead of having two 1gb i use my old 512mb and one 1gb would this would or would i still have the same problem? -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... how in the hell(sorry for language, just irritated cuz i don't have money to get new chip and getting the impression getting same but new ram won't help) are you supposed to know if it is though. -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message ... The fact that your memory score rose when reducing the amount installed suggests that the two sticks were not matched.. -- Mike Hall - MVP http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx Posting Productively.. http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... this is stupid i do a downgrade from 2gb to 1gb of ram and my system score is higher by .1 well, you can see how this feature means nothing usefull and isn't accurate. -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... i can't i don't have an option for this the only thing i can set up is how much ram to use as video memory, the min is 32 and the max is 256, right now i have it set up as 64mb, and it's weird because on the labelit says it's compatible with my type of system, i guess i'll have to call centon the maker of the ram. -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "JW" wrote in message ... Sound like the additional memory is drawing too much power. I suggest that you slow down the memory speed in your BIOS. "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... well first boot is alright but very slow, i'm not surprised about this but first boot will always work fine, it's when the pc has been hot for a while and then i reboot that i have problem -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning, or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop. hummm ok well it wasn't the static because i took all the safety step(i'm A++ classes for computer repair graduated) Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the problems appeared? yes although it wasn't that bad at first it was just every one and a while, but yesterday it was at a point where i couldn't run my pc at all. What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you should consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee compatibility. Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at least order from a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for a refund - *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible. will post back to say what happen when i downgrade the ram, fortunatly i was smart enough to keep the original ram Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan? it might be heat but never had this problem with the original ram, so i don't know. and this pc is brand new there no crud or dust on the monitor or the keyboard even less inside the comparment(i keep this pc very clean, i got ****ed off when i saw a little scratch.) -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "PvdG42" wrote in message ... "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... Run memory tests, but give memory a chance. i did i can't see the result i ran the windows memory diagnosis tool and the result aren't showing the system said it would tell me, but it's not. Ensure that it is the correct type. i use the exact same model that my pc came with pc2-5300 ddr2-667mhz, although i might be wrong i believe the original came with pc2-5300 ddr2-533mhz, don't know if it makes a difference If you are going to pair RAM, ensure that sticks are matched. they are the exact same thing, same maker, same mhz, same amount (1gbx2) If you are using budget makes, do NOT overclock your machine. don't know what you mean by budget makes, but yes i got them cheap 39.99 each, and in my case i can't overclock i'm using a laptop, which i wouldn't know how to overclock this peticular laptop, and i have no need to since it's fast 2.0ghz.(i know how to overclock a computer just not this one) The errors will keep popping up for as long as the machine does not like the configuration installed or if one of the RAM chips is faulty. well if it doesn't like the configuration it will have to though it out because all i can do is change the order of the ram, which doesn't change much because both of them are 1 gb, and as for the faulty ram, it would surprise me because they are even a year old(not even 6 month.) You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning, or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop. Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the problems appeared? What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you should consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee compatibility. Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at least order from a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for a refund - *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible. Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan? |
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trouble with new ram
what i don't understand is i bought them at the same time they have the same
maker, same model ddr2, same pc2-5300, same pin number, same amount of memory 1gb, same speed. they are practicaly the same except for the fact that there is two chip instead of one. so i don't understand how they couldn't be matched, oh and the ram that i got came with lifetime warranty, so i dought it was budget ram, but then again i'm not a ram knowing guy. oh and i forgot to say this when i get the blue screen of death it is only at the end of boot when windows is loading the list of users, not during boot or during a session of windows only at the end of boot. don't know if this makes a difference. -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message ... Matched pairs, as in twins.. some trade in old memory and buy two matching sticks, same type, speed, manufacturer. The smaller computer outlets will do this generally. As more performance is screwed out of x86, it becomes ever more critical that all components are 'just so'. Re memory, buying non matching sticks will double the memory and it may well work. Most likely, the system will see reduced memory performance. At worst, any gain in memory available will be offset by spurious faults and/or BSODs. Some memory is labeled clearly. Much of it is not, especially budget memory. Budget memory sticks are essentially the same as half decent memory but they have failed to maintain a level of performance expected of 'high performance RAM. Really high performance RAM will cost double that of budget RAM, but high performance is guaranteed. If you look at adverts for RAM, you will see that some is sold in pairs. These have been tested and found to be as close to 100% the same as is possible. One pays a premium for this. CPUs follow much the same pattern. Levels of performance are set, and depending upon how reliable each CPU is will determine whether it is a '4000+', '3800+', '3500+', 3200+', or '3000+'. Lower reliability levels also bring with them less chance of over clocking a system, assuming that the mainboard is 'overclock' capable. -- Mike Hall - MVP http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx Posting Productively.. http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... ok i thought you would've answered by now but it's ok, i know life keeps us busy, i had an idea, if the problem that i have is because they aren't paired which i can't understand why they wouldn't be, but never researched ram either so i'll let you tell me why, but what if instead of having two 1gb i use my old 512mb and one 1gb would this would or would i still have the same problem? -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... how in the hell(sorry for language, just irritated cuz i don't have money to get new chip and getting the impression getting same but new ram won't help) are you supposed to know if it is though. -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message ... The fact that your memory score rose when reducing the amount installed suggests that the two sticks were not matched.. -- Mike Hall - MVP http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx Posting Productively.. http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... this is stupid i do a downgrade from 2gb to 1gb of ram and my system score is higher by .1 well, you can see how this feature means nothing usefull and isn't accurate. -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... i can't i don't have an option for this the only thing i can set up is how much ram to use as video memory, the min is 32 and the max is 256, right now i have it set up as 64mb, and it's weird because on the labelit says it's compatible with my type of system, i guess i'll have to call centon the maker of the ram. -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "JW" wrote in message ... Sound like the additional memory is drawing too much power. I suggest that you slow down the memory speed in your BIOS. "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... well first boot is alright but very slow, i'm not surprised about this but first boot will always work fine, it's when the pc has been hot for a while and then i reboot that i have problem -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning, or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop. hummm ok well it wasn't the static because i took all the safety step(i'm A++ classes for computer repair graduated) Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the problems appeared? yes although it wasn't that bad at first it was just every one and a while, but yesterday it was at a point where i couldn't run my pc at all. What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you should consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee compatibility. Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at least order from a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for a refund - *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible. will post back to say what happen when i downgrade the ram, fortunatly i was smart enough to keep the original ram Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan? it might be heat but never had this problem with the original ram, so i don't know. and this pc is brand new there no crud or dust on the monitor or the keyboard even less inside the comparment(i keep this pc very clean, i got ****ed off when i saw a little scratch.) -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "PvdG42" wrote in message ... "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... Run memory tests, but give memory a chance. i did i can't see the result i ran the windows memory diagnosis tool and the result aren't showing the system said it would tell me, but it's not. Ensure that it is the correct type. i use the exact same model that my pc came with pc2-5300 ddr2-667mhz, although i might be wrong i believe the original came with pc2-5300 ddr2-533mhz, don't know if it makes a difference If you are going to pair RAM, ensure that sticks are matched. they are the exact same thing, same maker, same mhz, same amount (1gbx2) If you are using budget makes, do NOT overclock your machine. don't know what you mean by budget makes, but yes i got them cheap 39.99 each, and in my case i can't overclock i'm using a laptop, which i wouldn't know how to overclock this peticular laptop, and i have no need to since it's fast 2.0ghz.(i know how to overclock a computer just not this one) The errors will keep popping up for as long as the machine does not like the configuration installed or if one of the RAM chips is faulty. well if it doesn't like the configuration it will have to though it out because all i can do is change the order of the ram, which doesn't change much because both of them are 1 gb, and as for the faulty ram, it would surprise me because they are even a year old(not even 6 month.) You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning, or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop. Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the problems appeared? What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you should consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee compatibility. Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at least order from a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for a refund - *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible. Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan? |
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trouble with new ram
They are obviously not a matched pair even though the specs are the same
since they don't even have the same number of chips on each card. "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... what i don't understand is i bought them at the same time they have the same maker, same model ddr2, same pc2-5300, same pin number, same amount of memory 1gb, same speed. they are practicaly the same except for the fact that there is two chip instead of one. so i don't understand how they couldn't be matched, oh and the ram that i got came with lifetime warranty, so i dought it was budget ram, but then again i'm not a ram knowing guy. oh and i forgot to say this when i get the blue screen of death it is only at the end of boot when windows is loading the list of users, not during boot or during a session of windows only at the end of boot. don't know if this makes a difference. -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message ... Matched pairs, as in twins.. some trade in old memory and buy two matching sticks, same type, speed, manufacturer. The smaller computer outlets will do this generally. As more performance is screwed out of x86, it becomes ever more critical that all components are 'just so'. Re memory, buying non matching sticks will double the memory and it may well work. Most likely, the system will see reduced memory performance. At worst, any gain in memory available will be offset by spurious faults and/or BSODs. Some memory is labeled clearly. Much of it is not, especially budget memory. Budget memory sticks are essentially the same as half decent memory but they have failed to maintain a level of performance expected of 'high performance RAM. Really high performance RAM will cost double that of budget RAM, but high performance is guaranteed. If you look at adverts for RAM, you will see that some is sold in pairs. These have been tested and found to be as close to 100% the same as is possible. One pays a premium for this. CPUs follow much the same pattern. Levels of performance are set, and depending upon how reliable each CPU is will determine whether it is a '4000+', '3800+', '3500+', 3200+', or '3000+'. Lower reliability levels also bring with them less chance of over clocking a system, assuming that the mainboard is 'overclock' capable. -- Mike Hall - MVP http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx Posting Productively.. http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... ok i thought you would've answered by now but it's ok, i know life keeps us busy, i had an idea, if the problem that i have is because they aren't paired which i can't understand why they wouldn't be, but never researched ram either so i'll let you tell me why, but what if instead of having two 1gb i use my old 512mb and one 1gb would this would or would i still have the same problem? -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... how in the hell(sorry for language, just irritated cuz i don't have money to get new chip and getting the impression getting same but new ram won't help) are you supposed to know if it is though. -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message ... The fact that your memory score rose when reducing the amount installed suggests that the two sticks were not matched.. -- Mike Hall - MVP http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx Posting Productively.. http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... this is stupid i do a downgrade from 2gb to 1gb of ram and my system score is higher by .1 well, you can see how this feature means nothing usefull and isn't accurate. -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... i can't i don't have an option for this the only thing i can set up is how much ram to use as video memory, the min is 32 and the max is 256, right now i have it set up as 64mb, and it's weird because on the labelit says it's compatible with my type of system, i guess i'll have to call centon the maker of the ram. -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "JW" wrote in message ... Sound like the additional memory is drawing too much power. I suggest that you slow down the memory speed in your BIOS. "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... well first boot is alright but very slow, i'm not surprised about this but first boot will always work fine, it's when the pc has been hot for a while and then i reboot that i have problem -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning, or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop. hummm ok well it wasn't the static because i took all the safety step(i'm A++ classes for computer repair graduated) Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the problems appeared? yes although it wasn't that bad at first it was just every one and a while, but yesterday it was at a point where i couldn't run my pc at all. What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you should consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee compatibility. Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at least order from a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for a refund - *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible. will post back to say what happen when i downgrade the ram, fortunatly i was smart enough to keep the original ram Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan? it might be heat but never had this problem with the original ram, so i don't know. and this pc is brand new there no crud or dust on the monitor or the keyboard even less inside the comparment(i keep this pc very clean, i got ****ed off when i saw a little scratch.) -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "PvdG42" wrote in message ... "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... Run memory tests, but give memory a chance. i did i can't see the result i ran the windows memory diagnosis tool and the result aren't showing the system said it would tell me, but it's not. Ensure that it is the correct type. i use the exact same model that my pc came with pc2-5300 ddr2-667mhz, although i might be wrong i believe the original came with pc2-5300 ddr2-533mhz, don't know if it makes a difference If you are going to pair RAM, ensure that sticks are matched. they are the exact same thing, same maker, same mhz, same amount (1gbx2) If you are using budget makes, do NOT overclock your machine. don't know what you mean by budget makes, but yes i got them cheap 39.99 each, and in my case i can't overclock i'm using a laptop, which i wouldn't know how to overclock this peticular laptop, and i have no need to since it's fast 2.0ghz.(i know how to overclock a computer just not this one) The errors will keep popping up for as long as the machine does not like the configuration installed or if one of the RAM chips is faulty. well if it doesn't like the configuration it will have to though it out because all i can do is change the order of the ram, which doesn't change much because both of them are 1 gb, and as for the faulty ram, it would surprise me because they are even a year old(not even 6 month.) You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning, or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop. Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the problems appeared? What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you should consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee compatibility. Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at least order from a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for a refund - *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible. Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan? |
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trouble with new ram
oh my bad, i see where you might have gotten confused. when i said "two
chips instead of one", i meant i had bought two 1 gig instead of one. that was the only difference that i saw, but i'm not sure but i may have found a way to see if one or both of the chip is bad, i inserted a 1gig chip and a 512mb chip, and trying both 1 gig to see if i will get error so far i got a good one, and i'm being ruff with it, since the errors happen after boot during the loading of the graphics with is where you select the user you want to log in i'm rebooting often and keeping the ram warm by having a lot of program running and shuting down, etc. so far so good, only had bad boot once, but didn't blue screen this time, so i suspect it was something else. -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "JW" wrote in message ... They are obviously not a matched pair even though the specs are the same since they don't even have the same number of chips on each card. "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... what i don't understand is i bought them at the same time they have the same maker, same model ddr2, same pc2-5300, same pin number, same amount of memory 1gb, same speed. they are practicaly the same except for the fact that there is two chip instead of one. so i don't understand how they couldn't be matched, oh and the ram that i got came with lifetime warranty, so i dought it was budget ram, but then again i'm not a ram knowing guy. oh and i forgot to say this when i get the blue screen of death it is only at the end of boot when windows is loading the list of users, not during boot or during a session of windows only at the end of boot. don't know if this makes a difference. -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message ... Matched pairs, as in twins.. some trade in old memory and buy two matching sticks, same type, speed, manufacturer. The smaller computer outlets will do this generally. As more performance is screwed out of x86, it becomes ever more critical that all components are 'just so'. Re memory, buying non matching sticks will double the memory and it may well work. Most likely, the system will see reduced memory performance. At worst, any gain in memory available will be offset by spurious faults and/or BSODs. Some memory is labeled clearly. Much of it is not, especially budget memory. Budget memory sticks are essentially the same as half decent memory but they have failed to maintain a level of performance expected of 'high performance RAM. Really high performance RAM will cost double that of budget RAM, but high performance is guaranteed. If you look at adverts for RAM, you will see that some is sold in pairs. These have been tested and found to be as close to 100% the same as is possible. One pays a premium for this. CPUs follow much the same pattern. Levels of performance are set, and depending upon how reliable each CPU is will determine whether it is a '4000+', '3800+', '3500+', 3200+', or '3000+'. Lower reliability levels also bring with them less chance of over clocking a system, assuming that the mainboard is 'overclock' capable. -- Mike Hall - MVP http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx Posting Productively.. http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... ok i thought you would've answered by now but it's ok, i know life keeps us busy, i had an idea, if the problem that i have is because they aren't paired which i can't understand why they wouldn't be, but never researched ram either so i'll let you tell me why, but what if instead of having two 1gb i use my old 512mb and one 1gb would this would or would i still have the same problem? -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... how in the hell(sorry for language, just irritated cuz i don't have money to get new chip and getting the impression getting same but new ram won't help) are you supposed to know if it is though. -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message ... The fact that your memory score rose when reducing the amount installed suggests that the two sticks were not matched.. -- Mike Hall - MVP http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx Posting Productively.. http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... this is stupid i do a downgrade from 2gb to 1gb of ram and my system score is higher by .1 well, you can see how this feature means nothing usefull and isn't accurate. -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... i can't i don't have an option for this the only thing i can set up is how much ram to use as video memory, the min is 32 and the max is 256, right now i have it set up as 64mb, and it's weird because on the labelit says it's compatible with my type of system, i guess i'll have to call centon the maker of the ram. -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "JW" wrote in message ... Sound like the additional memory is drawing too much power. I suggest that you slow down the memory speed in your BIOS. "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... well first boot is alright but very slow, i'm not surprised about this but first boot will always work fine, it's when the pc has been hot for a while and then i reboot that i have problem -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning, or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop. hummm ok well it wasn't the static because i took all the safety step(i'm A++ classes for computer repair graduated) Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the problems appeared? yes although it wasn't that bad at first it was just every one and a while, but yesterday it was at a point where i couldn't run my pc at all. What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you should consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee compatibility. Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at least order from a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for a refund - *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible. will post back to say what happen when i downgrade the ram, fortunatly i was smart enough to keep the original ram Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan? it might be heat but never had this problem with the original ram, so i don't know. and this pc is brand new there no crud or dust on the monitor or the keyboard even less inside the comparment(i keep this pc very clean, i got ****ed off when i saw a little scratch.) -- Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - Best Comments From Users: Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults -Everyone "PvdG42" wrote in message ... "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message ... Run memory tests, but give memory a chance. i did i can't see the result i ran the windows memory diagnosis tool and the result aren't showing the system said it would tell me, but it's not. Ensure that it is the correct type. i use the exact same model that my pc came with pc2-5300 ddr2-667mhz, although i might be wrong i believe the original came with pc2-5300 ddr2-533mhz, don't know if it makes a difference If you are going to pair RAM, ensure that sticks are matched. they are the exact same thing, same maker, same mhz, same amount (1gbx2) If you are using budget makes, do NOT overclock your machine. don't know what you mean by budget makes, but yes i got them cheap 39.99 each, and in my case i can't overclock i'm using a laptop, which i wouldn't know how to overclock this peticular laptop, and i have no need to since it's fast 2.0ghz.(i know how to overclock a computer just not this one) The errors will keep popping up for as long as the machine does not like the configuration installed or if one of the RAM chips is faulty. well if it doesn't like the configuration it will have to though it out because all i can do is change the order of the ram, which doesn't change much because both of them are 1 gb, and as for the faulty ram, it would surprise me because they are even a year old(not even 6 month.) You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning, or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop. Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the problems appeared? What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you should consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee compatibility. Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at least order from a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for a refund - *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible. Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan? |