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Old October 21st 07, 06:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Computer & Sound System Tech
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Default trouble with new ram

i bought ram last month i believe, and for some reason i'm getting the blue
screen of death sometimes not always. and today was even worse the computer
would always give me the blue screen of death, and i waited few hours and
turned it on and now it's fine. but i'm tired of the blue screen especially
the ram is fine, i will try the ram tester, but i wanted to know if there
was something i could do to stop these errors?

--
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Old October 21st 07, 07:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Mike Hall - MVP[_2_]
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Default trouble with new ram

Run memory tests, but give memory a chance. Ensure that it is the correct
type. If you are going to pair RAM, ensure that sticks are matched. If you
are using budget makes, do NOT overclock your machine. The errors will keep
popping up for as long as the machine does not like the configuration
installed or if one of the RAM chips is faulty.

--
Mike Hall - MVP
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
Posting Productively.. http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm



"Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message
...
i bought ram last month i believe, and for some reason i'm getting the blue
screen of death sometimes not always. and today was even worse the computer
would always give me the blue screen of death, and i waited few hours and
turned it on and now it's fine. but i'm tired of the blue screen especially
the ram is fine, i will try the ram tester, but i wanted to know if there
was something i could do to stop these errors?

--
Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault
http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com
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Best Comments From Users:
Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me

A common mistake that people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools. -Web

No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's
Faults -Everyone


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Old October 21st 07, 11:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Computer & Sound System Tech
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Posts: 90
Default trouble with new ram

Run memory tests, but give memory a chance.
i did i can't see the result i ran the windows memory diagnosis tool and the
result aren't showing the system said it would tell me, but it's not.

Ensure that it is the correct type.

i use the exact same model that my pc came with pc2-5300 ddr2-667mhz,
although i might be wrong i believe the original came with pc2-5300
ddr2-533mhz, don't know if it makes a difference

If you are going to pair RAM, ensure that sticks are matched.

they are the exact same thing, same maker, same mhz, same amount (1gbx2)

If you are using budget makes, do NOT overclock your machine.

don't know what you mean by budget makes, but yes i got them cheap 39.99
each, and in my case i can't overclock i'm using a laptop, which i wouldn't
know how to overclock this peticular laptop, and i have no need to since
it's fast 2.0ghz.(i know how to overclock a computer just not this one)

The errors will keep popping up for as long as the machine does not like the
configuration installed or if one of the RAM chips is faulty.

well if it doesn't like the configuration it will have to though it out
because all i can do is change the order of the ram, which doesn't change
much because both of them are 1 gb, and as for the faulty ram, it would
surprise me because they are even a year old(not even 6 month.)

--
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Faults -Everyone
"Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message
...
Run memory tests, but give memory a chance. Ensure that it is the correct
type. If you are going to pair RAM, ensure that sticks are matched. If you
are using budget makes, do NOT overclock your machine. The errors will
keep popping up for as long as the machine does not like the configuration
installed or if one of the RAM chips is faulty.

--
Mike Hall - MVP
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
Posting Productively.. http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm



"Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message
...
i bought ram last month i believe, and for some reason i'm getting the
blue screen of death sometimes not always. and today was even worse the
computer would always give me the blue screen of death, and i waited few
hours and turned it on and now it's fine. but i'm tired of the blue screen
especially the ram is fine, i will try the ram tester, but i wanted to
know if there was something i could do to stop these errors?

--
Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault
http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com
- note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate -

Best Comments From Users:
Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me

A common mistake that people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools. -Web

No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's
Faults -Everyone



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Old October 22nd 07, 12:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
PvdG42
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Default trouble with new ram

"Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message
...
Run memory tests, but give memory a chance.
i did i can't see the result i ran the windows memory diagnosis tool and
the result aren't showing the system said it would tell me, but it's not.

Ensure that it is the correct type.

i use the exact same model that my pc came with pc2-5300 ddr2-667mhz,
although i might be wrong i believe the original came with pc2-5300
ddr2-533mhz, don't know if it makes a difference

If you are going to pair RAM, ensure that sticks are matched.

they are the exact same thing, same maker, same mhz, same amount (1gbx2)

If you are using budget makes, do NOT overclock your machine.

don't know what you mean by budget makes, but yes i got them cheap 39.99
each, and in my case i can't overclock i'm using a laptop, which i
wouldn't know how to overclock this peticular laptop, and i have no need
to since it's fast 2.0ghz.(i know how to overclock a computer just not
this one)

The errors will keep popping up for as long as the machine does not like
the configuration installed or if one of the RAM chips is faulty.

well if it doesn't like the configuration it will have to though it out
because all i can do is change the order of the ram, which doesn't change
much because both of them are 1 gb, and as for the faulty ram, it would
surprise me because they are even a year old(not even 6 month.)

You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning, or go
bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever reason, the RAM
you purchased does not work properly in your laptop.

Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with the
issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the problems
appeared?

What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues
disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the vendor
give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you should consider
ordering from a vendor that does guarantee compatibility. Crucial is an
example. If you don't want to do that, at least order from a vendor that
will allow you to return the memory for a refund - *reasonable* restocking
fee if it's incompatible.

Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last
disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan?

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Old October 22nd 07, 02:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Computer & Sound System Tech
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Posts: 90
Default trouble with new ram

You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning, or
go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever reason,
the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop.

hummm ok well it wasn't the static because i took all the safety step(i'm
A++ classes for computer repair graduated)

Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with the
issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the
problems appeared?


yes although it wasn't that bad at first it was just every one and a while,
but yesterday it was at a point where i couldn't run my pc at all.

What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues
disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the
vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you should
consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee compatibility. Crucial
is an example. If you don't want to do that, at least order from a vendor
that will allow you to return the memory for a refund - *reasonable*
restocking fee if it's incompatible.


will post back to say what happen when i downgrade the ram, fortunatly i was
smart enough to keep the original ram

Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last
disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan?

it might be heat but never had this problem with the original ram, so i
don't know. and this pc is brand new there no crud or dust on the monitor or
the keyboard even less inside the comparment(i keep this pc very clean, i
got ****ed off when i saw a little scratch.)

--
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http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com
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Best Comments From Users:
Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me

A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely
foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web

No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's
Faults -Everyone
"PvdG42" wrote in message
...
"Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message
...
Run memory tests, but give memory a chance.
i did i can't see the result i ran the windows memory diagnosis tool and
the result aren't showing the system said it would tell me, but it's not.

Ensure that it is the correct type.

i use the exact same model that my pc came with pc2-5300 ddr2-667mhz,
although i might be wrong i believe the original came with pc2-5300
ddr2-533mhz, don't know if it makes a difference

If you are going to pair RAM, ensure that sticks are matched.

they are the exact same thing, same maker, same mhz, same amount (1gbx2)

If you are using budget makes, do NOT overclock your machine.

don't know what you mean by budget makes, but yes i got them cheap 39.99
each, and in my case i can't overclock i'm using a laptop, which i
wouldn't know how to overclock this peticular laptop, and i have no need
to since it's fast 2.0ghz.(i know how to overclock a computer just not
this one)

The errors will keep popping up for as long as the machine does not like
the configuration installed or if one of the RAM chips is faulty.

well if it doesn't like the configuration it will have to though it out
because all i can do is change the order of the ram, which doesn't change
much because both of them are 1 gb, and as for the faulty ram, it would
surprise me because they are even a year old(not even 6 month.)

You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning, or
go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever reason,
the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop.

Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with the
issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the
problems appeared?

What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues
disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the
vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you should
consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee compatibility. Crucial
is an example. If you don't want to do that, at least order from a vendor
that will allow you to return the memory for a refund - *reasonable*
restocking fee if it's incompatible.

Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last
disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan?


  #6 (permalink)  
Old October 22nd 07, 02:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Computer & Sound System Tech
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Default trouble with new ram

well first boot is alright but very slow, i'm not surprised about this but
first boot will always work fine, it's when the pc has been hot for a while
and then i reboot that i have problem

--
Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault
http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com
- note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate -

Best Comments From Users:
Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me

A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely
foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web

No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's
Faults -Everyone
"Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message
...
You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning, or
go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever reason,
the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop.

hummm ok well it wasn't the static because i took all the safety step(i'm
A++ classes for computer repair graduated)

Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with the
issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the
problems appeared?


yes although it wasn't that bad at first it was just every one and a
while, but yesterday it was at a point where i couldn't run my pc at all.

What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues
disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the
vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you should
consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee compatibility.
Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at least order from
a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for a refund -
*reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible.


will post back to say what happen when i downgrade the ram, fortunatly i
was smart enough to keep the original ram

Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last
disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan?

it might be heat but never had this problem with the original ram, so i
don't know. and this pc is brand new there no crud or dust on the monitor
or the keyboard even less inside the comparment(i keep this pc very clean,
i got ****ed off when i saw a little scratch.)

--
Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault
http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com
- note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate -

Best Comments From Users:
Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me

A common mistake that people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools. -Web

No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's
Faults -Everyone
"PvdG42" wrote in message
...
"Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in
message ...
Run memory tests, but give memory a chance.
i did i can't see the result i ran the windows memory diagnosis tool and
the result aren't showing the system said it would tell me, but it's
not.

Ensure that it is the correct type.

i use the exact same model that my pc came with pc2-5300 ddr2-667mhz,
although i might be wrong i believe the original came with pc2-5300
ddr2-533mhz, don't know if it makes a difference

If you are going to pair RAM, ensure that sticks are matched.

they are the exact same thing, same maker, same mhz, same amount (1gbx2)

If you are using budget makes, do NOT overclock your machine.

don't know what you mean by budget makes, but yes i got them cheap 39.99
each, and in my case i can't overclock i'm using a laptop, which i
wouldn't know how to overclock this peticular laptop, and i have no need
to since it's fast 2.0ghz.(i know how to overclock a computer just not
this one)

The errors will keep popping up for as long as the machine does not like
the configuration installed or if one of the RAM chips is faulty.

well if it doesn't like the configuration it will have to though it out
because all i can do is change the order of the ram, which doesn't
change much because both of them are 1 gb, and as for the faulty ram, it
would surprise me because they are even a year old(not even 6 month.)

You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning, or
go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever reason,
the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop.

Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with the
issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the
problems appeared?

What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues
disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the
vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you should
consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee compatibility.
Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at least order from
a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for a refund -
*reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible.

Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last
disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan?



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Old October 22nd 07, 02:59 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
JW
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Default trouble with new ram

Sound like the additional memory is drawing too much power.
I suggest that you slow down the memory speed in your BIOS.
"Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message
...
well first boot is alright but very slow, i'm not surprised about this but
first boot will always work fine, it's when the pc has been hot for a
while and then i reboot that i have problem

--
Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault
http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com
- note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate -

Best Comments From Users:
Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me

A common mistake that people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools. -Web

No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's
Faults -Everyone
"Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message
...
You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning,
or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever
reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop.

hummm ok well it wasn't the static because i took all the safety step(i'm
A++ classes for computer repair graduated)

Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with
the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the
problems appeared?


yes although it wasn't that bad at first it was just every one and a
while, but yesterday it was at a point where i couldn't run my pc at all.

What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues
disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the
vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you should
consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee compatibility.
Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at least order from
a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for a refund -
*reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible.


will post back to say what happen when i downgrade the ram, fortunatly i
was smart enough to keep the original ram

Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last
disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan?

it might be heat but never had this problem with the original ram, so i
don't know. and this pc is brand new there no crud or dust on the monitor
or the keyboard even less inside the comparment(i keep this pc very
clean, i got ****ed off when i saw a little scratch.)

--
Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault
http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com
- note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate -

Best Comments From Users:
Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me

A common mistake that people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools. -Web

No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's
Faults -Everyone
"PvdG42" wrote in message
...
"Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in
message ...
Run memory tests, but give memory a chance.
i did i can't see the result i ran the windows memory diagnosis tool
and the result aren't showing the system said it would tell me, but
it's not.

Ensure that it is the correct type.

i use the exact same model that my pc came with pc2-5300 ddr2-667mhz,
although i might be wrong i believe the original came with pc2-5300
ddr2-533mhz, don't know if it makes a difference

If you are going to pair RAM, ensure that sticks are matched.

they are the exact same thing, same maker, same mhz, same amount
(1gbx2)

If you are using budget makes, do NOT overclock your machine.

don't know what you mean by budget makes, but yes i got them cheap
39.99 each, and in my case i can't overclock i'm using a laptop, which
i wouldn't know how to overclock this peticular laptop, and i have no
need to since it's fast 2.0ghz.(i know how to overclock a computer just
not this one)

The errors will keep popping up for as long as the machine does not
like the configuration installed or if one of the RAM chips is faulty.

well if it doesn't like the configuration it will have to though it out
because all i can do is change the order of the ram, which doesn't
change much because both of them are 1 gb, and as for the faulty ram,
it would surprise me because they are even a year old(not even 6
month.)

You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning,
or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever
reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop.

Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with
the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the
problems appeared?

What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues
disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the
vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you should
consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee compatibility.
Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at least order from
a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for a refund -
*reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible.

Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last
disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan?




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Old October 22nd 07, 04:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Computer & Sound System Tech
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Posts: 90
Default trouble with new ram

i can't i don't have an option for this the only thing i can set up is how
much ram to use as video memory, the min is 32 and the max is 256, right now
i have it set up as 64mb, and it's weird because on the labelit says it's
compatible with my type of system, i guess i'll have to call centon the
maker of the ram.

--
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Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me

A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely
foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web

No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's
Faults -Everyone
"JW" wrote in message
...
Sound like the additional memory is drawing too much power.
I suggest that you slow down the memory speed in your BIOS.
"Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message
...
well first boot is alright but very slow, i'm not surprised about this
but first boot will always work fine, it's when the pc has been hot for a
while and then i reboot that i have problem

--
Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault
http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com
- note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate -

Best Comments From Users:
Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me

A common mistake that people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools. -Web

No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's
Faults -Everyone
"Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in
message ...
You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning,
or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever
reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop.
hummm ok well it wasn't the static because i took all the safety
step(i'm A++ classes for computer repair graduated)

Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with
the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the
problems appeared?

yes although it wasn't that bad at first it was just every one and a
while, but yesterday it was at a point where i couldn't run my pc at
all.

What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues
disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the
vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you
should consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee
compatibility. Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at
least order from a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for
a refund - *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible.

will post back to say what happen when i downgrade the ram, fortunatly i
was smart enough to keep the original ram

Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last
disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan?
it might be heat but never had this problem with the original ram, so i
don't know. and this pc is brand new there no crud or dust on the
monitor or the keyboard even less inside the comparment(i keep this pc
very clean, i got ****ed off when i saw a little scratch.)

--
Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault
http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com
- note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate -

Best Comments From Users:
Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me

A common mistake that people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools. -Web

No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's
Faults -Everyone
"PvdG42" wrote in message
...
"Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in
message ...
Run memory tests, but give memory a chance.
i did i can't see the result i ran the windows memory diagnosis tool
and the result aren't showing the system said it would tell me, but
it's not.

Ensure that it is the correct type.

i use the exact same model that my pc came with pc2-5300 ddr2-667mhz,
although i might be wrong i believe the original came with pc2-5300
ddr2-533mhz, don't know if it makes a difference

If you are going to pair RAM, ensure that sticks are matched.

they are the exact same thing, same maker, same mhz, same amount
(1gbx2)

If you are using budget makes, do NOT overclock your machine.

don't know what you mean by budget makes, but yes i got them cheap
39.99 each, and in my case i can't overclock i'm using a laptop, which
i wouldn't know how to overclock this peticular laptop, and i have no
need to since it's fast 2.0ghz.(i know how to overclock a computer
just not this one)

The errors will keep popping up for as long as the machine does not
like the configuration installed or if one of the RAM chips is faulty.

well if it doesn't like the configuration it will have to though it
out because all i can do is change the order of the ram, which doesn't
change much because both of them are 1 gb, and as for the faulty ram,
it would surprise me because they are even a year old(not even 6
month.)

You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning,
or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever
reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop.

Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with
the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the
problems appeared?

What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues
disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the
vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you
should consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee
compatibility. Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at
least order from a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for
a refund - *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible.

Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last
disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan?




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Old October 22nd 07, 04:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
Computer & Sound System Tech
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Default trouble with new ram

this is stupid i do a downgrade from 2gb to 1gb of ram and my system score
is higher by .1 well, you can see how this feature means nothing usefull and
isn't accurate.

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"Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message
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i can't i don't have an option for this the only thing i can set up is how
much ram to use as video memory, the min is 32 and the max is 256, right
now i have it set up as 64mb, and it's weird because on the labelit says
it's compatible with my type of system, i guess i'll have to call centon
the maker of the ram.

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"JW" wrote in message
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Sound like the additional memory is drawing too much power.
I suggest that you slow down the memory speed in your BIOS.
"Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in
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well first boot is alright but very slow, i'm not surprised about this
but first boot will always work fine, it's when the pc has been hot for
a while and then i reboot that i have problem

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"Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in
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You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning,
or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever
reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop.
hummm ok well it wasn't the static because i took all the safety
step(i'm A++ classes for computer repair graduated)

Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with
the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the
problems appeared?

yes although it wasn't that bad at first it was just every one and a
while, but yesterday it was at a point where i couldn't run my pc at
all.

What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues
disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the
vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you
should consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee
compatibility. Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at
least order from a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for
a refund - *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible.

will post back to say what happen when i downgrade the ram, fortunatly
i was smart enough to keep the original ram

Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last
disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan?
it might be heat but never had this problem with the original ram, so i
don't know. and this pc is brand new there no crud or dust on the
monitor or the keyboard even less inside the comparment(i keep this pc
very clean, i got ****ed off when i saw a little scratch.)

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"PvdG42" wrote in message
...
"Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in
message ...
Run memory tests, but give memory a chance.
i did i can't see the result i ran the windows memory diagnosis tool
and the result aren't showing the system said it would tell me, but
it's not.

Ensure that it is the correct type.

i use the exact same model that my pc came with pc2-5300 ddr2-667mhz,
although i might be wrong i believe the original came with pc2-5300
ddr2-533mhz, don't know if it makes a difference

If you are going to pair RAM, ensure that sticks are matched.

they are the exact same thing, same maker, same mhz, same amount
(1gbx2)

If you are using budget makes, do NOT overclock your machine.

don't know what you mean by budget makes, but yes i got them cheap
39.99 each, and in my case i can't overclock i'm using a laptop,
which i wouldn't know how to overclock this peticular laptop, and i
have no need to since it's fast 2.0ghz.(i know how to overclock a
computer just not this one)

The errors will keep popping up for as long as the machine does not
like the configuration installed or if one of the RAM chips is
faulty.

well if it doesn't like the configuration it will have to though it
out because all i can do is change the order of the ram, which
doesn't change much because both of them are 1 gb, and as for the
faulty ram, it would surprise me because they are even a year old(not
even 6 month.)

You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning,
or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever
reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop.

Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with
the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the
problems appeared?

What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues
disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the
vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you
should consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee
compatibility. Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at
least order from a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for
a refund - *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible.

Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last
disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan?





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Old October 22nd 07, 05:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.hardware_devices
JW
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Default trouble with new ram

For Vista you need to allocate 128MB of shared memory if you want to use
Aero or flip3d.

"Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in message
...
i can't i don't have an option for this the only thing i can set up is how
much ram to use as video memory, the min is 32 and the max is 256, right
now i have it set up as 64mb, and it's weird because on the labelit says
it's compatible with my type of system, i guess i'll have to call centon
the maker of the ram.

--
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completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools. -Web

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Faults -Everyone
"JW" wrote in message
...
Sound like the additional memory is drawing too much power.
I suggest that you slow down the memory speed in your BIOS.
"Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in
message ...
well first boot is alright but very slow, i'm not surprised about this
but first boot will always work fine, it's when the pc has been hot for
a while and then i reboot that i have problem

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completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools. -Web

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Faults -Everyone
"Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in
message ...
You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning,
or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever
reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop.
hummm ok well it wasn't the static because i took all the safety
step(i'm A++ classes for computer repair graduated)

Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with
the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the
problems appeared?

yes although it wasn't that bad at first it was just every one and a
while, but yesterday it was at a point where i couldn't run my pc at
all.

What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues
disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the
vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you
should consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee
compatibility. Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at
least order from a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for
a refund - *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible.

will post back to say what happen when i downgrade the ram, fortunatly
i was smart enough to keep the original ram

Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last
disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan?
it might be heat but never had this problem with the original ram, so i
don't know. and this pc is brand new there no crud or dust on the
monitor or the keyboard even less inside the comparment(i keep this pc
very clean, i got ****ed off when i saw a little scratch.)

--
Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault
http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com
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Best Comments From Users:
Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me

A common mistake that people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools. -Web

No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's
Faults -Everyone
"PvdG42" wrote in message
...
"Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote in
message ...
Run memory tests, but give memory a chance.
i did i can't see the result i ran the windows memory diagnosis tool
and the result aren't showing the system said it would tell me, but
it's not.

Ensure that it is the correct type.

i use the exact same model that my pc came with pc2-5300 ddr2-667mhz,
although i might be wrong i believe the original came with pc2-5300
ddr2-533mhz, don't know if it makes a difference

If you are going to pair RAM, ensure that sticks are matched.

they are the exact same thing, same maker, same mhz, same amount
(1gbx2)

If you are using budget makes, do NOT overclock your machine.

don't know what you mean by budget makes, but yes i got them cheap
39.99 each, and in my case i can't overclock i'm using a laptop,
which i wouldn't know how to overclock this peticular laptop, and i
have no need to since it's fast 2.0ghz.(i know how to overclock a
computer just not this one)

The errors will keep popping up for as long as the machine does not
like the configuration installed or if one of the RAM chips is
faulty.

well if it doesn't like the configuration it will have to though it
out because all i can do is change the order of the ram, which
doesn't change much because both of them are 1 gb, and as for the
faulty ram, it would surprise me because they are even a year old(not
even 6 month.)

You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning,
or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever
reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop.

Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with
the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the
problems appeared?

What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues
disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the
vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you
should consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee
compatibility. Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at
least order from a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for
a refund - *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible.

Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last
disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan?





 




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