Sorry Malke. Didn't mean to reply to you - but you knew that already! (-:

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Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


"Richard Urban" wrote in message
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What exactly do you consider a recovery disk? Lets all get on the same
page here.

There is a recovery disk (a disk image) you can make yourself by using
TrueImage or some other such program. Then there are recovery disks that
come with a new computer. Which are you talking about?

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Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience



"Chad Harris" wrote in message
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Malke chimed in--

"This has not been my experience nor that of my colleagues in doing many
hundreds of restore-to-factory-condition jobs on many different brands of
computers. The recovery disks work fine as long as there are no hardware
issues and the correct recovery disks are used."

It has been *my experience and the experiences of thousands of people
I've helped fixed No Boot Windows in person,and my collegues who actually
like to see the broken no boot Windows up and running again* with all the
settings and apps intact, and on these groups, for five years on the XP
groups, and on Vista that so-called "recovery discs" are worthless pieces
of crap and not worth a nano-second of anyone's time if they want to get
XP, Vista, or Windows 7 up and running again with all their settings
intact.

Windows 7 is very relevant, otherwise I wouldn't have brought it up to
make a point of a sea change after MSFT offered the relatively worthless
(except for doing a chkdsk /r) Recovery console which is no longer being
offered. Why do you think they are offering intrinsic native Start-Up
repair in Windows 7? It's because they could not sell Vista to near
their expectations and many of us complained bitterly about the screwing
of people who buy OEM boxes at huge markups for the most part and then
can't fix Windows because of a deal between MSFT and their 300+OEM
partners not to ship Vista DVDs. Dell has claimed during Vista that they
will ship a Vista DVD although I've seen customers who have to remind the
Round Rockers of this published claim in order to extract a Vista DVD
from Roundrock Dell.

It uses the same repair mechanisms exactly as Vista. The only
difference is that without a DVD you have access that you did not have
before to them native to the OS. This is in response to many of us
saying to many at Redmond, that Recovery Discs are pieces of extreme
crap, and the majority of times, they are worthless.

Further, I've seen people that run tech support or are developers on the
teams that make the so-called "recovery discs" admit this hundreds of
times.

The bell shaped curve of people who use recovery discs might as well
wheel that OS to the morgue without passing "Go."

You're always better off using the OS DVD in XP, Vista and Windows 7 and
it is appropriate to educate as many people as possible who consider it
important to fix their broken, or broken and not booting OS quickly and
efficiently be it XP, Vista, or the very relevant Windows 7.

CH

"Malke" wrote in message
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Chad Harris wrote:

Unomas--

It isn't that the Recovery disc "corrupted." Let me say it as plainly
as
I can.

If you do a double blind multicentered study, the way medical trials
are
often done, the resut is that OEM recovery discs do not work. MSFT has
known this for 15 years and so have their OEM partners. When they name
them
recovery discs, they are pushing a myth. When a recovery disc works,
you
are extremely lucky. In general, the concept of a recovery disc for
actual efficacy at repairing is a cruel joke that has been promulgated
for
years.

(snip)

This has not been my experience nor that of my colleagues in doing many
hundreds of restore-to-factory-condition jobs on many different brands
of
computers. The recovery disks work fine as long as there are no hardware
issues and the correct recovery disks are used.

Windows 7 is irrelevant to the OP's question.

Malke
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MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
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