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Old November 11th 07, 08:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
bogey1125
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Default connecting at wifi locations

when i take my laptop on the road and try to connect at hotels, coffee shops
etc with the available wireless network i make a connection but it is
classified as local only and I cant get on the internet...what do I need to
change to allow me access...Pls...any help would be appreciated
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Old November 12th 07, 12:19 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Robert L. \(MS-MVP\)
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Default connecting at wifi locations

Since you can't make change on the router, I suggest you found if there is a
new driver for the wireless NIC.

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http://www.HowToNetworking.com


"bogey1125" wrote in message
...
when i take my laptop on the road and try to connect at hotels, coffee
shops
etc with the available wireless network i make a connection but it is
classified as local only and I cant get on the internet...what do I need
to
change to allow me access...Pls...any help would be appreciated


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Old December 9th 07, 03:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Ed Allan[_2_]
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Default connecting at wifi locations

Unfortunately, this seems to be a pervasive problem with Vista, one that did
not exist with XP. If you happen to have a T-Mobile account, then you should
be able to connect at Borders or Starbucks. Free wireless access works at
Caribou Coffee (North Central and Mid-Atlantic states)

http://www.cariboucoffee.com/locations/

and at least some Cosi restaurants (Northeast and Mid-Atlantic, Midwest,
Texas, California).

http://www.getcosi.com/folders.asp?a...splay&record=3

Some Staples stores offer free wireless access or plug-in LAN.

Good luck!!



"bogey1125" wrote:

when i take my laptop on the road and try to connect at hotels, coffee shops
etc with the available wireless network i make a connection but it is
classified as local only and I cant get on the internet...what do I need to
change to allow me access...Pls...any help would be appreciated

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Old December 9th 07, 06:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Sooner Al [MVP]
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Default connecting at wifi locations

"Ed Allan" wrote in message
...
Unfortunately, this seems to be a pervasive problem with Vista, one that
did
not exist with XP. If you happen to have a T-Mobile account, then you
should
be able to connect at Borders or Starbucks. Free wireless access works at
Caribou Coffee (North Central and Mid-Atlantic states)

http://www.cariboucoffee.com/locations/

and at least some Cosi restaurants (Northeast and Mid-Atlantic, Midwest,
Texas, California).

http://www.getcosi.com/folders.asp?a...splay&record=3

Some Staples stores offer free wireless access or plug-in LAN.

Good luck!!



"bogey1125" wrote:

when i take my laptop on the road and try to connect at hotels, coffee
shops
etc with the available wireless network i make a connection but it is
classified as local only and I cant get on the internet...what do I need
to
change to allow me access...Pls...any help would be appreciated


I've never had that issue. Be aware that many hotspots at hotels,
restaurants, etc require you to agree to terms of service by logging on with
IE, or some other browser, before you can access the internet. Usually if
you bring up IE you will be redirected to the terms of service page and you
can then either agree or not.

--

Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)

Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
mutual benefit of all of us...
The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights...

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Old December 9th 07, 09:55 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Ed Allan[_2_]
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Default connecting at wifi locations

Thanks, Al. Perhaps you've been lucky? Or maybe it's the laptop? (I have a
Gateway.)

Speaking for myself, I can say that places whose wifi I could easily access
with a laptop running XP I cannot access with Vista, while people sitting all
around me with XP or with Apples are busy plugging away.

Perhaps Bogey's experience has been different from mine. But for me, while
the Network Center shows that the access point is broadcasting with a strong
signal, my browser nonetheless comes back with a "Site not found" message.

Note: I did see as a response to someone else's post that setting the
connection to "Private" sometimes works.



"Sooner Al [MVP]" wrote:

"Ed Allan" wrote in message
...
Unfortunately, this seems to be a pervasive problem with Vista, one that
did
not exist with XP. If you happen to have a T-Mobile account, then you
should
be able to connect at Borders or Starbucks. Free wireless access works at
Caribou Coffee (North Central and Mid-Atlantic states)

http://www.cariboucoffee.com/locations/

and at least some Cosi restaurants (Northeast and Mid-Atlantic, Midwest,
Texas, California).

http://www.getcosi.com/folders.asp?a...splay&record=3

Some Staples stores offer free wireless access or plug-in LAN.

Good luck!!



"bogey1125" wrote:

when i take my laptop on the road and try to connect at hotels, coffee
shops
etc with the available wireless network i make a connection but it is
classified as local only and I cant get on the internet...what do I need
to
change to allow me access...Pls...any help would be appreciated


I've never had that issue. Be aware that many hotspots at hotels,
restaurants, etc require you to agree to terms of service by logging on with
IE, or some other browser, before you can access the internet. Usually if
you bring up IE you will be redirected to the terms of service page and you
can then either agree or not.

--

Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)

Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
mutual benefit of all of us...
The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights...

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Old December 10th 07, 09:35 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Barb Bowman
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Default connecting at wifi locations

I've traveled all over with a Vista laptop.
When you are at a public provider's site, open IE and try to
navigate to yahoo or some site you don't normally visit. the
wireless provider should display an access page of sort kind for you
to acknowledge terms of service and then you should be able to use
the Internet.

If this does not happen, open a cmd prompt and copy the text output
of

ipconfig /all to a text file. save it so that you can post it here
so that we can see what the state of the connection is at one of
these places you have trouble with.

On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 14:55:01 -0800, Ed Allan
wrote:

Thanks, Al. Perhaps you've been lucky? Or maybe it's the laptop? (I have a
Gateway.)

Speaking for myself, I can say that places whose wifi I could easily access
with a laptop running XP I cannot access with Vista, while people sitting all
around me with XP or with Apples are busy plugging away.

Perhaps Bogey's experience has been different from mine. But for me, while
the Network Center shows that the access point is broadcasting with a strong
signal, my browser nonetheless comes back with a "Site not found" message.

Note: I did see as a response to someone else's post that setting the
connection to "Private" sometimes works.



"Sooner Al [MVP]" wrote:

"Ed Allan" wrote in message
...
Unfortunately, this seems to be a pervasive problem with Vista, one that
did
not exist with XP. If you happen to have a T-Mobile account, then you
should
be able to connect at Borders or Starbucks. Free wireless access works at
Caribou Coffee (North Central and Mid-Atlantic states)

http://www.cariboucoffee.com/locations/

and at least some Cosi restaurants (Northeast and Mid-Atlantic, Midwest,
Texas, California).

http://www.getcosi.com/folders.asp?a...splay&record=3

Some Staples stores offer free wireless access or plug-in LAN.

Good luck!!



"bogey1125" wrote:

when i take my laptop on the road and try to connect at hotels, coffee
shops
etc with the available wireless network i make a connection but it is
classified as local only and I cant get on the internet...what do I need
to
change to allow me access...Pls...any help would be appreciated


I've never had that issue. Be aware that many hotspots at hotels,
restaurants, etc require you to agree to terms of service by logging on with
IE, or some other browser, before you can access the internet. Usually if
you bring up IE you will be redirected to the terms of service page and you
can then either agree or not.

--

Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)

Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
mutual benefit of all of us...
The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights...

--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
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Old December 10th 07, 09:48 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Sooner Al [MVP]
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Default connecting at wifi locations

"Ed Allan" wrote in message
...
Thanks, Al. Perhaps you've been lucky? Or maybe it's the laptop? (I have
a
Gateway.)

Speaking for myself, I can say that places whose wifi I could easily
access
with a laptop running XP I cannot access with Vista, while people sitting
all
around me with XP or with Apples are busy plugging away.

Perhaps Bogey's experience has been different from mine. But for me, while
the Network Center shows that the access point is broadcasting with a
strong
signal, my browser nonetheless comes back with a "Site not found" message.

Note: I did see as a response to someone else's post that setting the
connection to "Private" sometimes works.


I would *NEVER* set my network type to "Private" while at a public wireless
hotspot or a wired one for that matter.

--

Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)

Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
mutual benefit of all of us...
The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights...

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Old December 13th 07, 05:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Jrz
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Default connecting at wifi locations

Ed Allan wrote:
Thanks, Al. Perhaps you've been lucky? Or maybe it's the laptop? (I have a
Gateway.)

Speaking for myself, I can say that places whose wifi I could easily access
with a laptop running XP I cannot access with Vista, while people sitting all
around me with XP or with Apples are busy plugging away.


Vista has a completely rewritten TCP/IP stack

http://blogs.msdn.com/wndp/archive/2...g-tcpip-2.aspx

in an attempt to get greater speed/efficiency, it is also now
incompatible with some routers. So it seems to very much depend on where
you are at - "lucky", so to speak




Perhaps Bogey's experience has been different from mine. But for me, while
the Network Center shows that the access point is broadcasting with a strong
signal, my browser nonetheless comes back with a "Site not found" message.

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Old February 4th 08, 09:11 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
CM
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Default connecting at wifi locations



"Barb Bowman" wrote:

I've traveled all over with a Vista laptop.
When you are at a public provider's site, open IE and try to
navigate to yahoo or some site you don't normally visit. the
wireless provider should display an access page of sort kind for you
to acknowledge terms of service and then you should be able to use
the Internet.

If this does not happen, open a cmd prompt and copy the text output
of

ipconfig /all to a text file. save it so that you can post it here
so that we can see what the state of the connection is at one of
these places you have trouble with.

On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 14:55:01 -0800, Ed Allan
wrote:

Thanks, Al. Perhaps you've been lucky? Or maybe it's the laptop? (I have a
Gateway.)

Speaking for myself, I can say that places whose wifi I could easily access
with a laptop running XP I cannot access with Vista, while people sitting all
around me with XP or with Apples are busy plugging away.

Perhaps Bogey's experience has been different from mine. But for me, while
the Network Center shows that the access point is broadcasting with a strong
signal, my browser nonetheless comes back with a "Site not found" message.

Note: I did see as a response to someone else's post that setting the
connection to "Private" sometimes works.



"Sooner Al [MVP]" wrote:

"Ed Allan" wrote in message
...
Unfortunately, this seems to be a pervasive problem with Vista, one that
did
not exist with XP. If you happen to have a T-Mobile account, then you
should
be able to connect at Borders or Starbucks. Free wireless access works at
Caribou Coffee (North Central and Mid-Atlantic states)

http://www.cariboucoffee.com/locations/

and at least some Cosi restaurants (Northeast and Mid-Atlantic, Midwest,
Texas, California).

http://www.getcosi.com/folders.asp?a...splay&record=3

Some Staples stores offer free wireless access or plug-in LAN.

Good luck!!



"bogey1125" wrote:

when i take my laptop on the road and try to connect at hotels, coffee
shops
etc with the available wireless network i make a connection but it is
classified as local only and I cant get on the internet...what do I need
to
change to allow me access...Pls...any help would be appreciated

I've never had that issue. Be aware that many hotspots at hotels,
restaurants, etc require you to agree to terms of service by logging on with
IE, or some other browser, before you can access the internet. Usually if
you bring up IE you will be redirected to the terms of service page and you
can then either agree or not.

--

Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)

Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
mutual benefit of all of us...
The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights...

--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

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Old February 4th 08, 09:26 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
CM
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Default connecting at wifi locations

I'm having the very same problem !! No matter where I go in this Philippine
city, it's a hit and miss, more often a miss, whether I will connect to the
internet. I do appear to be connecting OK to the hotel and restaurant
routers, but it won't go the next step and connect to the net. It says Local
Connection Only with an excellent signal. However , about 15 % of the time,
at the same location and without any changes in my settings, I eventually
connect after about half an hour of sitting idle. Everyone else at the same
location connect fine with XP or Apple. Barb I haven't a clue how to do the
steps you requested of this poster. I'm using a new ACER Extensa 5620. Man
this is ****ing me off !! Has Microsoft not got an official fix for this ?
There are many, many other people on the net complaining about the same
problem. Thanks in advance for your help.

"Barb Bowman" wrote:

I've traveled all over with a Vista laptop.
When you are at a public provider's site, open IE and try to
navigate to yahoo or some site you don't normally visit. the
wireless provider should display an access page of sort kind for you
to acknowledge terms of service and then you should be able to use
the Internet.

If this does not happen, open a cmd prompt and copy the text output
of

ipconfig /all to a text file. save it so that you can post it here
so that we can see what the state of the connection is at one of
these places you have trouble with.

On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 14:55:01 -0800, Ed Allan
wrote:

Thanks, Al. Perhaps you've been lucky? Or maybe it's the laptop? (I have a
Gateway.)

Speaking for myself, I can say that places whose wifi I could easily access
with a laptop running XP I cannot access with Vista, while people sitting all
around me with XP or with Apples are busy plugging away.

Perhaps Bogey's experience has been different from mine. But for me, while
the Network Center shows that the access point is broadcasting with a strong
signal, my browser nonetheless comes back with a "Site not found" message.

Note: I did see as a response to someone else's post that setting the
connection to "Private" sometimes works.



"Sooner Al [MVP]" wrote:

"Ed Allan" wrote in message
...
Unfortunately, this seems to be a pervasive problem with Vista, one that
did
not exist with XP. If you happen to have a T-Mobile account, then you
should
be able to connect at Borders or Starbucks. Free wireless access works at
Caribou Coffee (North Central and Mid-Atlantic states)

http://www.cariboucoffee.com/locations/

and at least some Cosi restaurants (Northeast and Mid-Atlantic, Midwest,
Texas, California).

http://www.getcosi.com/folders.asp?a...splay&record=3

Some Staples stores offer free wireless access or plug-in LAN.

Good luck!!



"bogey1125" wrote:

when i take my laptop on the road and try to connect at hotels, coffee
shops
etc with the available wireless network i make a connection but it is
classified as local only and I cant get on the internet...what do I need
to
change to allow me access...Pls...any help would be appreciated

I've never had that issue. Be aware that many hotspots at hotels,
restaurants, etc require you to agree to terms of service by logging on with
IE, or some other browser, before you can access the internet. Usually if
you bring up IE you will be redirected to the terms of service page and you
can then either agree or not.

--

Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)

Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
mutual benefit of all of us...
The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights...

--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

 




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