I have a cable (Comcast) modem and access it via a cable to a Linksys WRT54G
router from a PC running Vista Ultimate. I have one other PC, running XP
Home, that accesses it via a wireless connection. When I look at the
network there is a device icon called Residential Gateway Device. When I
click on the properties for this device I see that it is the Linksys router
device. When I click on settings for the router I get a list of devices
that can be accessed by other internet users. My assumption is that I don't
want anyone on the internet using services on my machine. However,
occasionally I will notice that there are multiple [identical] entries of
MSNMSGR and each entry has its box checked. Over time there will be
multiple pages of this entry. I can delete them all and everything seems to
continue to work just fine but over time they will reappear.

Does anyone know what causes this and whether I should care or not?

Thanks in advance.

Howard

You should upgrade the firmware on your WRT54G and possibly your
version of Messenger. The newer versions should not leave all the
ports open indefinitely. (UPnP)

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:51:42 -0800, "Howard Woodard"
wrote:

I have a cable (Comcast) modem and access it via a cable to a Linksys WRT54G
router from a PC running Vista Ultimate. I have one other PC, running XP
Home, that accesses it via a wireless connection. When I look at the
network there is a device icon called Residential Gateway Device. When I
click on the properties for this device I see that it is the Linksys router
device. When I click on settings for the router I get a list of devices
that can be accessed by other internet users. My assumption is that I don't
want anyone on the internet using services on my machine. However,
occasionally I will notice that there are multiple [identical] entries of
MSNMSGR and each entry has its box checked. Over time there will be
multiple pages of this entry. I can delete them all and everything seems to
continue to work just fine but over time they will reappear.

Does anyone know what causes this and whether I should care or not?

Thanks in advance.

Howard
--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

Thanks Barb. I'm running v4.21.1 of the router firmware which is the latest
version that they list on their web site and v 2008 (Build 8.5.1302.1018) of
MSN Messenger which, I think, is also the most current version.

Any other things that I should look at?

Howard
=============================

"Barb Bowman" wrote in message
...
You should upgrade the firmware on your WRT54G and possibly your
version of Messenger. The newer versions should not leave all the
ports open indefinitely. (UPnP)

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:51:42 -0800, "Howard Woodard"
wrote:

I have a cable (Comcast) modem and access it via a cable to a Linksys
WRT54G
router from a PC running Vista Ultimate. I have one other PC, running XP
Home, that accesses it via a wireless connection. When I look at the
network there is a device icon called Residential Gateway Device. When I
click on the properties for this device I see that it is the Linksys
router
device. When I click on settings for the router I get a list of devices
that can be accessed by other internet users. My assumption is that I
don't
want anyone on the internet using services on my machine. However,
occasionally I will notice that there are multiple [identical] entries of
MSNMSGR and each entry has its box checked. Over time there will be
multiple pages of this entry. I can delete them all and everything seems
to
continue to work just fine but over time they will reappear.

Does anyone know what causes this and whether I should care or not?

Thanks in advance.

Howard
--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

do the msnmgr entries ever disappear on their own?

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:55:11 -0800, "Howard Woodard"
wrote:

Thanks Barb. I'm running v4.21.1 of the router firmware which is the latest
version that they list on their web site and v 2008 (Build 8.5.1302.1018) of
MSN Messenger which, I think, is also the most current version.

Any other things that I should look at?

Howard
=============================

"Barb Bowman" wrote in message
.. .
You should upgrade the firmware on your WRT54G and possibly your
version of Messenger. The newer versions should not leave all the
ports open indefinitely. (UPnP)

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:51:42 -0800, "Howard Woodard"
wrote:

I have a cable (Comcast) modem and access it via a cable to a Linksys
WRT54G
router from a PC running Vista Ultimate. I have one other PC, running XP
Home, that accesses it via a wireless connection. When I look at the
network there is a device icon called Residential Gateway Device. When I
click on the properties for this device I see that it is the Linksys
router
device. When I click on settings for the router I get a list of devices
that can be accessed by other internet users. My assumption is that I
don't
want anyone on the internet using services on my machine. However,
occasionally I will notice that there are multiple [identical] entries of
MSNMSGR and each entry has its box checked. Over time there will be
multiple pages of this entry. I can delete them all and everything seems
to
continue to work just fine but over time they will reappear.

Does anyone know what causes this and whether I should care or not?

Thanks in advance.

Howard
--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

Not that I'm aware of. But they occasionally are lower case with a specific
IP address (from the router) next to them.

Howard
================================

"Barb Bowman" wrote in message
...
do the msnmgr entries ever disappear on their own?

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:55:11 -0800, "Howard Woodard"
wrote:

Thanks Barb. I'm running v4.21.1 of the router firmware which is the
latest
version that they list on their web site and v 2008 (Build 8.5.1302.1018)
of
MSN Messenger which, I think, is also the most current version.

Any other things that I should look at?

Howard
=============================

"Barb Bowman" wrote in message
. ..
You should upgrade the firmware on your WRT54G and possibly your
version of Messenger. The newer versions should not leave all the
ports open indefinitely. (UPnP)

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:51:42 -0800, "Howard Woodard"
wrote:

I have a cable (Comcast) modem and access it via a cable to a Linksys
WRT54G
router from a PC running Vista Ultimate. I have one other PC, running
XP
Home, that accesses it via a wireless connection. When I look at the
network there is a device icon called Residential Gateway Device. When
I
click on the properties for this device I see that it is the Linksys
router
device. When I click on settings for the router I get a list of devices
that can be accessed by other internet users. My assumption is that I
don't
want anyone on the internet using services on my machine. However,
occasionally I will notice that there are multiple [identical] entries
of
MSNMSGR and each entry has its box checked. Over time there will be
multiple pages of this entry. I can delete them all and everything
seems
to
continue to work just fine but over time they will reappear.

Does anyone know what causes this and whether I should care or not?

Thanks in advance.

Howard
--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

My router reports open and closed UPnP session (in fact reports
various states). Not sure how much detail the Linksys reports. I'm
wondering if it reports everything, regardless if the session is
active/established, closed, waiting for a connection, etc. If this
isn't clear in the status page, it might be a good question for the
folks at Linksys or the Linksys forum on DSLReports.com

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:55:11 -0800, "Howard Woodard"
wrote:

Thanks Barb. I'm running v4.21.1 of the router firmware which is the latest
version that they list on their web site and v 2008 (Build 8.5.1302.1018) of
MSN Messenger which, I think, is also the most current version.

Any other things that I should look at?

Howard
=============================

"Barb Bowman" wrote in message
.. .
You should upgrade the firmware on your WRT54G and possibly your
version of Messenger. The newer versions should not leave all the
ports open indefinitely. (UPnP)

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:51:42 -0800, "Howard Woodard"
wrote:

I have a cable (Comcast) modem and access it via a cable to a Linksys
WRT54G
router from a PC running Vista Ultimate. I have one other PC, running XP
Home, that accesses it via a wireless connection. When I look at the
network there is a device icon called Residential Gateway Device. When I
click on the properties for this device I see that it is the Linksys
router
device. When I click on settings for the router I get a list of devices
that can be accessed by other internet users. My assumption is that I
don't
want anyone on the internet using services on my machine. However,
occasionally I will notice that there are multiple [identical] entries of
MSNMSGR and each entry has its box checked. Over time there will be
multiple pages of this entry. I can delete them all and everything seems
to
continue to work just fine but over time they will reappear.

Does anyone know what causes this and whether I should care or not?

Thanks in advance.

Howard
--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

If you power cycle the router, do the entries disappear or not?

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:19:15 -0800, "Howard Woodard"
wrote:

Not that I'm aware of. But they occasionally are lower case with a specific
IP address (from the router) next to them.

Howard
================================

"Barb Bowman" wrote in message
.. .
do the msnmgr entries ever disappear on their own?

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:55:11 -0800, "Howard Woodard"
wrote:

Thanks Barb. I'm running v4.21.1 of the router firmware which is the
latest
version that they list on their web site and v 2008 (Build 8.5.1302.1018)
of
MSN Messenger which, I think, is also the most current version.

Any other things that I should look at?

Howard
=============================

"Barb Bowman" wrote in message
...
You should upgrade the firmware on your WRT54G and possibly your
version of Messenger. The newer versions should not leave all the
ports open indefinitely. (UPnP)

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:51:42 -0800, "Howard Woodard"
wrote:

I have a cable (Comcast) modem and access it via a cable to a Linksys
WRT54G
router from a PC running Vista Ultimate. I have one other PC, running
XP
Home, that accesses it via a wireless connection. When I look at the
network there is a device icon called Residential Gateway Device. When
I
click on the properties for this device I see that it is the Linksys
router
device. When I click on settings for the router I get a list of devices
that can be accessed by other internet users. My assumption is that I
don't
want anyone on the internet using services on my machine. However,
occasionally I will notice that there are multiple [identical] entries
of
MSNMSGR and each entry has its box checked. Over time there will be
multiple pages of this entry. I can delete them all and everything
seems
to
continue to work just fine but over time they will reappear.

Does anyone know what causes this and whether I should care or not?

Thanks in advance.

Howard
--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

It usually means that either the router is keeping a table of each
port opened, even thought some may be closed.

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:06:47 -0800, "N. Miller"
wrote:

Seeing more means you have neighbors
piggybacking on your wireless connection; which is a very serious security
issue.
--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

which will impact Messenger itself..

On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:17:58 -0800, "N. Miller"
wrote:


If that is the only problem, then the router is FUBAR. Disable UPnP.
--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

Hi, i have a LinkSys router and dd-wrt (lastest stable version) firmware
i have 1 computer with vista and another with xp.
every single program that uses upnp (except messenger) works fine with the
router, when i close them they unmap the port they were using, but the ports
used by messenger don't unmap when i close msn, they just stay there and when
i open msn again it maps another port.
I believe its a messenger issue because all the other programs unmap the
ports right away when i close them.
btw wireless is DISABLED.

"N. Miller" wrote:

On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:35:26 -0500, Barb Bowman wrote:

On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:17:58 -0800, "N. Miller"

If that is the only problem, then the router is FUBAR. Disable UPnP.

which will impact Messenger itself..

The router is FUBAR. Disable UPnP, update the firmware, or trash the router.

I am not sure what will break if UPnP is disabled on the router. But, if you
don't want a bunch of ports hanging open after 'msmsgr.exe' is finished, you
have to do *something*. Doing nothing changes nothing.

--
Norman
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~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.