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Will Vista ever fully support voice modem based on conexant chip s
Problem: My Rosewill RC-403 PCI Voice/Data/Fax modem isn't working fully with
a number of TAPI based answering machine programs (e.g. IVM Answering Attendant, Impulse Technology's CallStation). These programs can pick up and record calls but they cannot play a greeting message over the phone line. All a caller hears is silence while the greeting is playing. Craig Duncan at Impulse Technology has indicated to me in a personal communication (as well as on his web site http://www.imptec.com/modems.htm - see Windows Vista section) that the problem is caused by a "bug" in Vista's Unimodem Transform Module that affects all Conexant based voice modems. Since most modems on the market today are based on the Conexant chip set, and since most answering machine software on the market is TAPI based, the implication is that many people are affected by this. In other words, it's very likely that if someone wants to use their Vista machine to work as an answering machine, they'll run into this. Questions: Is Craig Duncan right about the Unimodem driver and if so, does Microsoft intend to fix this soon? If not, can someone recommend a Voice/Data/Fax modem that will support full TAPI answering machine functionality running on Vista? Note: Here's a link to another reference to this problem in the Windows Community Forums: http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...7-5f02dd66a0fd |
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Will Vista ever fully support voice modem based on conexant chip s
I am waiting for a solution to this problem also. (I'm part of the thread
you link to) I've been watching these MS Vista groups and have seen nothing regarding our problem for a long time. I use Call Station. I did discover that FaxTalk (trial) will work with my Conexant modem. It apparently does not use the modem wave driver. But I'm holding out for a fix because I really like the features that Call Station has. I dual boot and make sure I'm in XP whenever I'm away from my computer. Kind of a pain but I've gotten used to it. If a call comes in while I'm in Vista and I decide not to answer... the caller gets the silent treatment. "clayga" wrote in message ... Problem: My Rosewill RC-403 PCI Voice/Data/Fax modem isn't working fully with a number of TAPI based answering machine programs (e.g. IVM Answering Attendant, Impulse Technology's CallStation). These programs can pick up and record calls but they cannot play a greeting message over the phone line. All a caller hears is silence while the greeting is playing. Craig Duncan at Impulse Technology has indicated to me in a personal communication (as well as on his web site http://www.imptec.com/modems.htm - see Windows Vista section) that the problem is caused by a "bug" in Vista's Unimodem Transform Module that affects all Conexant based voice modems. Since most modems on the market today are based on the Conexant chip set, and since most answering machine software on the market is TAPI based, the implication is that many people are affected by this. In other words, it's very likely that if someone wants to use their Vista machine to work as an answering machine, they'll run into this. Questions: Is Craig Duncan right about the Unimodem driver and if so, does Microsoft intend to fix this soon? If not, can someone recommend a Voice/Data/Fax modem that will support full TAPI answering machine functionality running on Vista? Note: Here's a link to another reference to this problem in the Windows Community Forums: http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...7-5f02dd66a0fd |
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Will Vista ever fully support voice modem based on conexant chip s
Hi,
You're looking in the wrong place for a driver fix. Microsoft provides drivers that are supplied to them by the device manufacturers, for the most part they do not write any of their own other than for their own hardware, or to provide basic functionality for an industry standard device. They do not and have not written full driver and software sets to support added device functionality. It's up to the device manufacturer to fix, add to, or rewrite drivers, then supply it to Microsoft for distribution on Windows Update. Many do not do this, some do and just distribute them on their own. Others do not update drivers for older devices at all, and the consumer is left with the option of going without a particular function, or with purchasing new hardware. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com "clayga" wrote in message ... Problem: My Rosewill RC-403 PCI Voice/Data/Fax modem isn't working fully with a number of TAPI based answering machine programs (e.g. IVM Answering Attendant, Impulse Technology's CallStation). These programs can pick up and record calls but they cannot play a greeting message over the phone line. All a caller hears is silence while the greeting is playing. Craig Duncan at Impulse Technology has indicated to me in a personal communication (as well as on his web site http://www.imptec.com/modems.htm - see Windows Vista section) that the problem is caused by a "bug" in Vista's Unimodem Transform Module that affects all Conexant based voice modems. Since most modems on the market today are based on the Conexant chip set, and since most answering machine software on the market is TAPI based, the implication is that many people are affected by this. In other words, it's very likely that if someone wants to use their Vista machine to work as an answering machine, they'll run into this. Questions: Is Craig Duncan right about the Unimodem driver and if so, does Microsoft intend to fix this soon? If not, can someone recommend a Voice/Data/Fax modem that will support full TAPI answering machine functionality running on Vista? Note: Here's a link to another reference to this problem in the Windows Community Forums: http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...7-5f02dd66a0fd |
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Will Vista ever fully support voice modem based on conexant chip s
Rick... two items in your post.
"for the most part they do not write any of their own other than for their own hardware, or to provide basic functionality for an industry standard device" and... "and the consumer is left with the option of going without a particular function, or with purchasing new hardware" Seems to me an industry standard device is now broken and new hardware that works with this class of software can not be found. I've been looking for nearly a year for a voice modem that will work with Vista. "Rick Rogers" wrote in message ... Hi, You're looking in the wrong place for a driver fix. Microsoft provides drivers that are supplied to them by the device manufacturers, for the most part they do not write any of their own other than for their own hardware, or to provide basic functionality for an industry standard device. They do not and have not written full driver and software sets to support added device functionality. It's up to the device manufacturer to fix, add to, or rewrite drivers, then supply it to Microsoft for distribution on Windows Update. Many do not do this, some do and just distribute them on their own. Others do not update drivers for older devices at all, and the consumer is left with the option of going without a particular function, or with purchasing new hardware. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com "clayga" wrote in message ... Problem: My Rosewill RC-403 PCI Voice/Data/Fax modem isn't working fully with a number of TAPI based answering machine programs (e.g. IVM Answering Attendant, Impulse Technology's CallStation). These programs can pick up and record calls but they cannot play a greeting message over the phone line. All a caller hears is silence while the greeting is playing. Craig Duncan at Impulse Technology has indicated to me in a personal communication (as well as on his web site http://www.imptec.com/modems.htm - see Windows Vista section) that the problem is caused by a "bug" in Vista's Unimodem Transform Module that affects all Conexant based voice modems. Since most modems on the market today are based on the Conexant chip set, and since most answering machine software on the market is TAPI based, the implication is that many people are affected by this. In other words, it's very likely that if someone wants to use their Vista machine to work as an answering machine, they'll run into this. Questions: Is Craig Duncan right about the Unimodem driver and if so, does Microsoft intend to fix this soon? If not, can someone recommend a Voice/Data/Fax modem that will support full TAPI answering machine functionality running on Vista? Note: Here's a link to another reference to this problem in the Windows Community Forums: http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...7-5f02dd66a0fd |
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Will Vista ever fully support voice modem based on conexant chip s
Hi DanR,
The basic function of a modem is to perform the analog/digital (modulation/demodulation) exchange of data, not to support voice modulation. That is an added feature of some categories of modems. The drivers supplied by Vista or any other version of Windows simply allows for this, not for the added capability. The only way it's going to work is when the modem manufacturers write and release the necessary supporting drivers and software. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com "DanR" wrote in message ... Rick... two items in your post. "for the most part they do not write any of their own other than for their own hardware, or to provide basic functionality for an industry standard device" and... "and the consumer is left with the option of going without a particular function, or with purchasing new hardware" Seems to me an industry standard device is now broken and new hardware that works with this class of software can not be found. I've been looking for nearly a year for a voice modem that will work with Vista. "Rick Rogers" wrote in message ... Hi, You're looking in the wrong place for a driver fix. Microsoft provides drivers that are supplied to them by the device manufacturers, for the most part they do not write any of their own other than for their own hardware, or to provide basic functionality for an industry standard device. They do not and have not written full driver and software sets to support added device functionality. It's up to the device manufacturer to fix, add to, or rewrite drivers, then supply it to Microsoft for distribution on Windows Update. Many do not do this, some do and just distribute them on their own. Others do not update drivers for older devices at all, and the consumer is left with the option of going without a particular function, or with purchasing new hardware. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com "clayga" wrote in message ... Problem: My Rosewill RC-403 PCI Voice/Data/Fax modem isn't working fully with a number of TAPI based answering machine programs (e.g. IVM Answering Attendant, Impulse Technology's CallStation). These programs can pick up and record calls but they cannot play a greeting message over the phone line. All a caller hears is silence while the greeting is playing. Craig Duncan at Impulse Technology has indicated to me in a personal communication (as well as on his web site http://www.imptec.com/modems.htm - see Windows Vista section) that the problem is caused by a "bug" in Vista's Unimodem Transform Module that affects all Conexant based voice modems. Since most modems on the market today are based on the Conexant chip set, and since most answering machine software on the market is TAPI based, the implication is that many people are affected by this. In other words, it's very likely that if someone wants to use their Vista machine to work as an answering machine, they'll run into this. Questions: Is Craig Duncan right about the Unimodem driver and if so, does Microsoft intend to fix this soon? If not, can someone recommend a Voice/Data/Fax modem that will support full TAPI answering machine functionality running on Vista? Note: Here's a link to another reference to this problem in the Windows Community Forums: http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...7-5f02dd66a0fd |
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Will Vista ever fully support voice modem based on conexant chip s
Well, no offence, but I've been observing this attitude at this NG since
around February. That MS is not responsible for 3rd party hardware working with Vista. Of course MS can do what it likes and indeed does. But you can't deny that there are many unhappy people out there with broken hardware. And now that non-geek, normal folks have purchased new computers like they might buy a new washing machine... because their old one wore out... they are having problems. A small percentage of them show up here for help. I'm reading that enterprise might skip Vista completely. If that turns out to be true it's because of bad word of mouth. And if my new MS washing machine started chewing up my clothes I'd have a problem with MS not Levi Strauss. "Rick Rogers" wrote in message ... Hi DanR, The basic function of a modem is to perform the analog/digital (modulation/demodulation) exchange of data, not to support voice modulation. That is an added feature of some categories of modems. The drivers supplied by Vista or any other version of Windows simply allows for this, not for the added capability. The only way it's going to work is when the modem manufacturers write and release the necessary supporting drivers and software. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com "DanR" wrote in message ... Rick... two items in your post. "for the most part they do not write any of their own other than for their own hardware, or to provide basic functionality for an industry standard device" and... "and the consumer is left with the option of going without a particular function, or with purchasing new hardware" Seems to me an industry standard device is now broken and new hardware that works with this class of software can not be found. I've been looking for nearly a year for a voice modem that will work with Vista. "Rick Rogers" wrote in message ... Hi, You're looking in the wrong place for a driver fix. Microsoft provides drivers that are supplied to them by the device manufacturers, for the most part they do not write any of their own other than for their own hardware, or to provide basic functionality for an industry standard device. They do not and have not written full driver and software sets to support added device functionality. It's up to the device manufacturer to fix, add to, or rewrite drivers, then supply it to Microsoft for distribution on Windows Update. Many do not do this, some do and just distribute them on their own. Others do not update drivers for older devices at all, and the consumer is left with the option of going without a particular function, or with purchasing new hardware. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com "clayga" wrote in message ... Problem: My Rosewill RC-403 PCI Voice/Data/Fax modem isn't working fully with a number of TAPI based answering machine programs (e.g. IVM Answering Attendant, Impulse Technology's CallStation). These programs can pick up and record calls but they cannot play a greeting message over the phone line. All a caller hears is silence while the greeting is playing. Craig Duncan at Impulse Technology has indicated to me in a personal communication (as well as on his web site http://www.imptec.com/modems.htm - see Windows Vista section) that the problem is caused by a "bug" in Vista's Unimodem Transform Module that affects all Conexant based voice modems. Since most modems on the market today are based on the Conexant chip set, and since most answering machine software on the market is TAPI based, the implication is that many people are affected by this. In other words, it's very likely that if someone wants to use their Vista machine to work as an answering machine, they'll run into this. Questions: Is Craig Duncan right about the Unimodem driver and if so, does Microsoft intend to fix this soon? If not, can someone recommend a Voice/Data/Fax modem that will support full TAPI answering machine functionality running on Vista? Note: Here's a link to another reference to this problem in the Windows Community Forums: http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...7-5f02dd66a0fd |
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Will Vista ever fully support voice modem based on conexant chip s
No offense taken. I am only trying to explain why you are running into the
issue, not taking a position or defending anyone. Microsoft writes the operating system, mainly to take advantage of the capabilities of the current hardware standards. It's up to the device manufacturers to write software, including drivers, that adhere to the standards of the operating system. Microsoft, where possible, includes drivers in the operating system that will at least provide basic functionality like a standard VGA driver for video, but it ends there for them. Device manufacturers, on the other hand, tend to lag behind in providing updated software for their devices and a new operating system. Why is this? Well, for starters, there is no profit in spending time rewriting software for older devices. They've already made money on them, there is nothing more to be gained. For them, there's more incentive to concentrating resources developing new hardware with new supporting software for the consumer to upgrade to if they want full functionality. Secondly, the firmware on a device may not conform to the standards for a new OS. When this happens, either the firmware instructions need to be rewritten or a workaround must be developed. On the latter, they are getting more difficult as shortcuts and backdoors are being rapidly closed for security reasons. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com "DanR" wrote in message ... Well, no offence, but I've been observing this attitude at this NG since around February. That MS is not responsible for 3rd party hardware working with Vista. Of course MS can do what it likes and indeed does. But you can't deny that there are many unhappy people out there with broken hardware. And now that non-geek, normal folks have purchased new computers like they might buy a new washing machine... because their old one wore out... they are having problems. A small percentage of them show up here for help. I'm reading that enterprise might skip Vista completely. If that turns out to be true it's because of bad word of mouth. And if my new MS washing machine started chewing up my clothes I'd have a problem with MS not Levi Strauss. "Rick Rogers" wrote in message ... Hi DanR, The basic function of a modem is to perform the analog/digital (modulation/demodulation) exchange of data, not to support voice modulation. That is an added feature of some categories of modems. The drivers supplied by Vista or any other version of Windows simply allows for this, not for the added capability. The only way it's going to work is when the modem manufacturers write and release the necessary supporting drivers and software. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com "DanR" wrote in message ... Rick... two items in your post. "for the most part they do not write any of their own other than for their own hardware, or to provide basic functionality for an industry standard device" and... "and the consumer is left with the option of going without a particular function, or with purchasing new hardware" Seems to me an industry standard device is now broken and new hardware that works with this class of software can not be found. I've been looking for nearly a year for a voice modem that will work with Vista. "Rick Rogers" wrote in message ... Hi, You're looking in the wrong place for a driver fix. Microsoft provides drivers that are supplied to them by the device manufacturers, for the most part they do not write any of their own other than for their own hardware, or to provide basic functionality for an industry standard device. They do not and have not written full driver and software sets to support added device functionality. It's up to the device manufacturer to fix, add to, or rewrite drivers, then supply it to Microsoft for distribution on Windows Update. Many do not do this, some do and just distribute them on their own. Others do not update drivers for older devices at all, and the consumer is left with the option of going without a particular function, or with purchasing new hardware. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com "clayga" wrote in message ... Problem: My Rosewill RC-403 PCI Voice/Data/Fax modem isn't working fully with a number of TAPI based answering machine programs (e.g. IVM Answering Attendant, Impulse Technology's CallStation). These programs can pick up and record calls but they cannot play a greeting message over the phone line. All a caller hears is silence while the greeting is playing. Craig Duncan at Impulse Technology has indicated to me in a personal communication (as well as on his web site http://www.imptec.com/modems.htm - see Windows Vista section) that the problem is caused by a "bug" in Vista's Unimodem Transform Module that affects all Conexant based voice modems. Since most modems on the market today are based on the Conexant chip set, and since most answering machine software on the market is TAPI based, the implication is that many people are affected by this. In other words, it's very likely that if someone wants to use their Vista machine to work as an answering machine, they'll run into this. Questions: Is Craig Duncan right about the Unimodem driver and if so, does Microsoft intend to fix this soon? If not, can someone recommend a Voice/Data/Fax modem that will support full TAPI answering machine functionality running on Vista? Note: Here's a link to another reference to this problem in the Windows Community Forums: http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...7-5f02dd66a0fd |
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Will Vista ever fully support voice modem based on conexant ch
Since I started this thread, I'll add my two cents about the points Danr and
Rick Rogers have raised. 1. Voice/Data/Fax modems are multi function devices like all-in-one printer-scanner devices. Would it make sense for anybody to argue that all-in-one devices have only one core capability - printing for example, and then write drivers that ignored scanning because it's not a core capability? I just don't buy the argument that Voice is an "added" feature, and hence doesn't merit Microsoft's attention. 2. Voice capabilities in Voice/Data/Fax modems support a variety of telephony applications that are not supported by any other type of hardware to my knowledge. As Danr pointed out, it's been a year since Vista shipped and it's still hard (impossible?) to find a Voice/Data/Fax modem that fully supports voice features on Vista. I've certainly have had no luck. The information one needs to make an informed decision about whether voice features of Voice/Data/Fax modems will work with Vista is either unavailable or buried so deep that most people will never find it. I've searched manufacture web sites, forums, and Microsoft's own Vista hardware compatibility web pages and none tell users what they need to know to make informed purchasing decisions. The appearance of all this is that Vista is abandoning voice modems and the telephony applications they support. How can Microsoft be comfortable with this state of affairs? Thousands of customers (tens of thousands?) must be confused, annoyed, possibly even angry. 3. I hope one or more Windows Program Managers at Microsoft is or becomes aware of this situation and takes action. Reasonable alternatives I think would include 1) getting a developer at Microsoft to fix the "generic" voice drivers that will get voice features working for most of the Voice/Fax/Data modems out there - e.g. fixing the Unimodem Transform Module that apparently is the problem for Conexant based modems might be a good place to start, 2) provide an incentive to get modem manufactures to update their drivers, or 3) provide an incentive to get at least one modem manufacturer to develop and market a new Voice/Data/Fax modem (including drivers) that will work with Vista. "Rick Rogers" wrote: No offense taken. I am only trying to explain why you are running into the issue, not taking a position or defending anyone. Microsoft writes the operating system, mainly to take advantage of the capabilities of the current hardware standards. It's up to the device manufacturers to write software, including drivers, that adhere to the standards of the operating system. Microsoft, where possible, includes drivers in the operating system that will at least provide basic functionality like a standard VGA driver for video, but it ends there for them. Device manufacturers, on the other hand, tend to lag behind in providing updated software for their devices and a new operating system. Why is this? Well, for starters, there is no profit in spending time rewriting software for older devices. They've already made money on them, there is nothing more to be gained. For them, there's more incentive to concentrating resources developing new hardware with new supporting software for the consumer to upgrade to if they want full functionality. Secondly, the firmware on a device may not conform to the standards for a new OS. When this happens, either the firmware instructions need to be rewritten or a workaround must be developed. On the latter, they are getting more difficult as shortcuts and backdoors are being rapidly closed for security reasons. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com "DanR" wrote in message ... Well, no offence, but I've been observing this attitude at this NG since around February. That MS is not responsible for 3rd party hardware working with Vista. Of course MS can do what it likes and indeed does. But you can't deny that there are many unhappy people out there with broken hardware. And now that non-geek, normal folks have purchased new computers like they might buy a new washing machine... because their old one wore out... they are having problems. A small percentage of them show up here for help. I'm reading that enterprise might skip Vista completely. If that turns out to be true it's because of bad word of mouth. And if my new MS washing machine started chewing up my clothes I'd have a problem with MS not Levi Strauss. "Rick Rogers" wrote in message ... Hi DanR, The basic function of a modem is to perform the analog/digital (modulation/demodulation) exchange of data, not to support voice modulation. That is an added feature of some categories of modems. The drivers supplied by Vista or any other version of Windows simply allows for this, not for the added capability. The only way it's going to work is when the modem manufacturers write and release the necessary supporting drivers and software. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com "DanR" wrote in message ... Rick... two items in your post. "for the most part they do not write any of their own other than for their own hardware, or to provide basic functionality for an industry standard device" and... "and the consumer is left with the option of going without a particular function, or with purchasing new hardware" Seems to me an industry standard device is now broken and new hardware that works with this class of software can not be found. I've been looking for nearly a year for a voice modem that will work with Vista. "Rick Rogers" wrote in message ... Hi, You're looking in the wrong place for a driver fix. Microsoft provides drivers that are supplied to them by the device manufacturers, for the most part they do not write any of their own other than for their own hardware, or to provide basic functionality for an industry standard device. They do not and have not written full driver and software sets to support added device functionality. It's up to the device manufacturer to fix, add to, or rewrite drivers, then supply it to Microsoft for distribution on Windows Update. Many do not do this, some do and just distribute them on their own. Others do not update drivers for older devices at all, and the consumer is left with the option of going without a particular function, or with purchasing new hardware. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com "clayga" wrote in message ... Problem: My Rosewill RC-403 PCI Voice/Data/Fax modem isn't working fully with a number of TAPI based answering machine programs (e.g. IVM Answering Attendant, Impulse Technology's CallStation). These programs can pick up and record calls but they cannot play a greeting message over the phone line. All a caller hears is silence while the greeting is playing. Craig Duncan at Impulse Technology has indicated to me in a personal communication (as well as on his web site http://www.imptec.com/modems.htm - see Windows Vista section) that the problem is caused by a "bug" in Vista's Unimodem Transform Module that affects all Conexant based voice modems. Since most modems on the market today are based on the Conexant chip set, and since most answering machine software on the market is TAPI based, the implication is that many people are affected by this. In other words, it's very likely that if someone wants to use their Vista machine to work as an answering machine, they'll run into this. Questions: Is Craig Duncan right about the Unimodem driver and if so, does Microsoft intend to fix this soon? If not, can someone recommend a Voice/Data/Fax modem that will support full TAPI answering machine functionality running on Vista? Note: Here's a link to another reference to this problem in the Windows Community Forums: http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...7-5f02dd66a0fd |
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Will Vista ever fully support voice modem based on conexant ch
i know i have this type of modem on my laptop, and it's great unfortunatly i
have no idea why it says it supports voice, since i can't find any program that uses it on this modem, but i have noticed that caller-id is supported on these modem(yes, if u have caller id your computer will be able to show the name and tel number, as long as u have the software, which happens to be free) look for vista-caller id and phonetray-free. phonetray allow your pc to say the name and number outloud -- L.B.Capt. Jonathan Perreault http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate - I'm A Proud Member Of Bravenet, They Have Great Tools And Script For Web Site Owner. To Visit: http://www.bravenet.com/?afilid=658810278 And Also A Supporting This Wandefull Program: Deskspace: To Buy It: https://www.plimus.com/jsp/buynow.js...jonperreaul t 30 Day Trial Free: https://www.plimus.com/jsp/download_...jon perreault Information: https://www.plimus.com/jsp/redirect....jonperrea ult "clayga" wrote in message ... Since I started this thread, I'll add my two cents about the points Danr and Rick Rogers have raised. 1. Voice/Data/Fax modems are multi function devices like all-in-one printer-scanner devices. Would it make sense for anybody to argue that all-in-one devices have only one core capability - printing for example, and then write drivers that ignored scanning because it's not a core capability? I just don't buy the argument that Voice is an "added" feature, and hence doesn't merit Microsoft's attention. 2. Voice capabilities in Voice/Data/Fax modems support a variety of telephony applications that are not supported by any other type of hardware to my knowledge. As Danr pointed out, it's been a year since Vista shipped and it's still hard (impossible?) to find a Voice/Data/Fax modem that fully supports voice features on Vista. I've certainly have had no luck. The information one needs to make an informed decision about whether voice features of Voice/Data/Fax modems will work with Vista is either unavailable or buried so deep that most people will never find it. I've searched manufacture web sites, forums, and Microsoft's own Vista hardware compatibility web pages and none tell users what they need to know to make informed purchasing decisions. The appearance of all this is that Vista is abandoning voice modems and the telephony applications they support. How can Microsoft be comfortable with this state of affairs? Thousands of customers (tens of thousands?) must be confused, annoyed, possibly even angry. 3. I hope one or more Windows Program Managers at Microsoft is or becomes aware of this situation and takes action. Reasonable alternatives I think would include 1) getting a developer at Microsoft to fix the "generic" voice drivers that will get voice features working for most of the Voice/Fax/Data modems out there - e.g. fixing the Unimodem Transform Module that apparently is the problem for Conexant based modems might be a good place to start, 2) provide an incentive to get modem manufactures to update their drivers, or 3) provide an incentive to get at least one modem manufacturer to develop and market a new Voice/Data/Fax modem (including drivers) that will work with Vista. "Rick Rogers" wrote: No offense taken. I am only trying to explain why you are running into the issue, not taking a position or defending anyone. Microsoft writes the operating system, mainly to take advantage of the capabilities of the current hardware standards. It's up to the device manufacturers to write software, including drivers, that adhere to the standards of the operating system. Microsoft, where possible, includes drivers in the operating system that will at least provide basic functionality like a standard VGA driver for video, but it ends there for them. Device manufacturers, on the other hand, tend to lag behind in providing updated software for their devices and a new operating system. Why is this? Well, for starters, there is no profit in spending time rewriting software for older devices. They've already made money on them, there is nothing more to be gained. For them, there's more incentive to concentrating resources developing new hardware with new supporting software for the consumer to upgrade to if they want full functionality. Secondly, the firmware on a device may not conform to the standards for a new OS. When this happens, either the firmware instructions need to be rewritten or a workaround must be developed. On the latter, they are getting more difficult as shortcuts and backdoors are being rapidly closed for security reasons. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com "DanR" wrote in message ... Well, no offence, but I've been observing this attitude at this NG since around February. That MS is not responsible for 3rd party hardware working with Vista. Of course MS can do what it likes and indeed does. But you can't deny that there are many unhappy people out there with broken hardware. And now that non-geek, normal folks have purchased new computers like they might buy a new washing machine... because their old one wore out... they are having problems. A small percentage of them show up here for help. I'm reading that enterprise might skip Vista completely. If that turns out to be true it's because of bad word of mouth. And if my new MS washing machine started chewing up my clothes I'd have a problem with MS not Levi Strauss. "Rick Rogers" wrote in message ... Hi DanR, The basic function of a modem is to perform the analog/digital (modulation/demodulation) exchange of data, not to support voice modulation. That is an added feature of some categories of modems. The drivers supplied by Vista or any other version of Windows simply allows for this, not for the added capability. The only way it's going to work is when the modem manufacturers write and release the necessary supporting drivers and software. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com "DanR" wrote in message ... Rick... two items in your post. "for the most part they do not write any of their own other than for their own hardware, or to provide basic functionality for an industry standard device" and... "and the consumer is left with the option of going without a particular function, or with purchasing new hardware" Seems to me an industry standard device is now broken and new hardware that works with this class of software can not be found. I've been looking for nearly a year for a voice modem that will work with Vista. "Rick Rogers" wrote in message ... Hi, You're looking in the wrong place for a driver fix. Microsoft provides drivers that are supplied to them by the device manufacturers, for the most part they do not write any of their own other than for their own hardware, or to provide basic functionality for an industry standard device. They do not and have not written full driver and software sets to support added device functionality. It's up to the device manufacturer to fix, add to, or rewrite drivers, then supply it to Microsoft for distribution on Windows Update. Many do not do this, some do and just distribute them on their own. Others do not update drivers for older devices at all, and the consumer is left with the option of going without a particular function, or with purchasing new hardware. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com "clayga" wrote in message ... Problem: My Rosewill RC-403 PCI Voice/Data/Fax modem isn't working fully with a number of TAPI based answering machine programs (e.g. IVM Answering Attendant, Impulse Technology's CallStation). These programs can pick up and record calls but they cannot play a greeting message over the phone line. All a caller hears is silence while the greeting is playing. Craig Duncan at Impulse Technology has indicated to me in a personal communication (as well as on his web site http://www.imptec.com/modems.htm - see Windows Vista section) that the problem is caused by a "bug" in Vista's Unimodem Transform Module that affects all Conexant based voice modems. Since most modems on the market today are based on the Conexant chip set, and since most answering machine software on the market is TAPI based, the implication is that many people are affected by this. In other words, it's very likely that if someone wants to use their Vista machine to work as an answering machine, they'll run into this. Questions: Is Craig Duncan right about the Unimodem driver and if so, does Microsoft intend to fix this soon? If not, can someone recommend a Voice/Data/Fax modem that will support full TAPI answering machine functionality running on Vista? Note: Here's a link to another reference to this problem in the Windows Community Forums: http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...7-5f02dd66a0fd |
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Will Vista ever fully support voice modem based on conexant ch
Not to belabor the point, but a modem, by definition, is a device that
converts signal from analog to digital and vice-versa (hence modulation/demodulation or mo-dem). Voice communication is pure analog, not something that requires this conversion. When a modem is in operation, its basic function after negotiating a connection is translating the data for transmission and reception, nothing else. Microsoft does not make this determination, it's a standard. Manufacturers choose to add voice capabilities to the device, but then do not want to write the necessary supporting software (drivers) so that it functions in a given operating system. The device therefore uses the basic driver provided for the function for which a modem is designed. There are additional technical considerations that I won't get into, but it's not going to change. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com "clayga" wrote in message ... Since I started this thread, I'll add my two cents about the points Danr and Rick Rogers have raised. 1. Voice/Data/Fax modems are multi function devices like all-in-one printer-scanner devices. Would it make sense for anybody to argue that all-in-one devices have only one core capability - printing for example, and then write drivers that ignored scanning because it's not a core capability? I just don't buy the argument that Voice is an "added" feature, and hence doesn't merit Microsoft's attention. 2. Voice capabilities in Voice/Data/Fax modems support a variety of telephony applications that are not supported by any other type of hardware to my knowledge. As Danr pointed out, it's been a year since Vista shipped and it's still hard (impossible?) to find a Voice/Data/Fax modem that fully supports voice features on Vista. I've certainly have had no luck. The information one needs to make an informed decision about whether voice features of Voice/Data/Fax modems will work with Vista is either unavailable or buried so deep that most people will never find it. I've searched manufacture web sites, forums, and Microsoft's own Vista hardware compatibility web pages and none tell users what they need to know to make informed purchasing decisions. The appearance of all this is that Vista is abandoning voice modems and the telephony applications they support. How can Microsoft be comfortable with this state of affairs? Thousands of customers (tens of thousands?) must be confused, annoyed, possibly even angry. 3. I hope one or more Windows Program Managers at Microsoft is or becomes aware of this situation and takes action. Reasonable alternatives I think would include 1) getting a developer at Microsoft to fix the "generic" voice drivers that will get voice features working for most of the Voice/Fax/Data modems out there - e.g. fixing the Unimodem Transform Module that apparently is the problem for Conexant based modems might be a good place to start, 2) provide an incentive to get modem manufactures to update their drivers, or 3) provide an incentive to get at least one modem manufacturer to develop and market a new Voice/Data/Fax modem (including drivers) that will work with Vista. "Rick Rogers" wrote: No offense taken. I am only trying to explain why you are running into the issue, not taking a position or defending anyone. Microsoft writes the operating system, mainly to take advantage of the capabilities of the current hardware standards. It's up to the device manufacturers to write software, including drivers, that adhere to the standards of the operating system. Microsoft, where possible, includes drivers in the operating system that will at least provide basic functionality like a standard VGA driver for video, but it ends there for them. Device manufacturers, on the other hand, tend to lag behind in providing updated software for their devices and a new operating system. Why is this? Well, for starters, there is no profit in spending time rewriting software for older devices. They've already made money on them, there is nothing more to be gained. For them, there's more incentive to concentrating resources developing new hardware with new supporting software for the consumer to upgrade to if they want full functionality. Secondly, the firmware on a device may not conform to the standards for a new OS. When this happens, either the firmware instructions need to be rewritten or a workaround must be developed. On the latter, they are getting more difficult as shortcuts and backdoors are being rapidly closed for security reasons. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com "DanR" wrote in message ... Well, no offence, but I've been observing this attitude at this NG since around February. That MS is not responsible for 3rd party hardware working with Vista. Of course MS can do what it likes and indeed does. But you can't deny that there are many unhappy people out there with broken hardware. And now that non-geek, normal folks have purchased new computers like they might buy a new washing machine... because their old one wore out... they are having problems. A small percentage of them show up here for help. I'm reading that enterprise might skip Vista completely. If that turns out to be true it's because of bad word of mouth. And if my new MS washing machine started chewing up my clothes I'd have a problem with MS not Levi Strauss. "Rick Rogers" wrote in message ... Hi DanR, The basic function of a modem is to perform the analog/digital (modulation/demodulation) exchange of data, not to support voice modulation. That is an added feature of some categories of modems. The drivers supplied by Vista or any other version of Windows simply allows for this, not for the added capability. The only way it's going to work is when the modem manufacturers write and release the necessary supporting drivers and software. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com "DanR" wrote in message ... Rick... two items in your post. "for the most part they do not write any of their own other than for their own hardware, or to provide basic functionality for an industry standard device" and... "and the consumer is left with the option of going without a particular function, or with purchasing new hardware" Seems to me an industry standard device is now broken and new hardware that works with this class of software can not be found. I've been looking for nearly a year for a voice modem that will work with Vista. "Rick Rogers" wrote in message ... Hi, You're looking in the wrong place for a driver fix. Microsoft provides drivers that are supplied to them by the device manufacturers, for the most part they do not write any of their own other than for their own hardware, or to provide basic functionality for an industry standard device. They do not and have not written full driver and software sets to support added device functionality. It's up to the device manufacturer to fix, add to, or rewrite drivers, then supply it to Microsoft for distribution on Windows Update. Many do not do this, some do and just distribute them on their own. Others do not update drivers for older devices at all, and the consumer is left with the option of going without a particular function, or with purchasing new hardware. -- Best of Luck, Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ Windows help - www.rickrogers.org My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com "clayga" wrote in message ... Problem: My Rosewill RC-403 PCI Voice/Data/Fax modem isn't working fully with a number of TAPI based answering machine programs (e.g. IVM Answering Attendant, Impulse Technology's CallStation). These programs can pick up and record calls but they cannot play a greeting message over the phone line. All a caller hears is silence while the greeting is playing. Craig Duncan at Impulse Technology has indicated to me in a personal communication (as well as on his web site http://www.imptec.com/modems.htm - see Windows Vista section) that the problem is caused by a "bug" in Vista's Unimodem Transform Module that affects all Conexant based voice modems. Since most modems on the market today are based on the Conexant chip set, and since most answering machine software on the market is TAPI based, the implication is that many people are affected by this. In other words, it's very likely that if someone wants to use their Vista machine to work as an answering machine, they'll run into this. Questions: Is Craig Duncan right about the Unimodem driver and if so, does Microsoft intend to fix this soon? If not, can someone recommend a Voice/Data/Fax modem that will support full TAPI answering machine functionality running on Vista? Note: Here's a link to another reference to this problem in the Windows Community Forums: http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...7-5f02dd66a0fd |
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