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November 19th 07, 04:45 PM
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Vista grabs first IP in routers range
We have a new laptop with Vista Premium. We used the same account and
password for the other machines. The issue is that in this peer-to-peer network the Vista machine is taking 192.168.1.101 when there is already a machine that has been given this IP. I temporarily solved the problem by giving my other machines (all XP Pro) static IPs. I do not want to give the laptop a static IP so that it can be used at local hot spots. Does anyone know why the Vista machine would not just accept the IP given by the router? Its a Linksys router (b/g) about a year and a half old. I suppose I might try updating the firmware, but I think that Vista should just take the IP its given and play nice. 
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November 19th 07, 05:04 PM
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Vista grabs first IP in routers range
"Jerry Langley III" wrote in
message ... We have a new laptop with Vista Premium. We used the same account and password for the other machines. The issue is that in this peer-to-peer network the Vista machine is taking 192.168.1.101 when there is already a machine that has been given this IP. I temporarily solved the problem by giving my other machines (all XP Pro) static IPs. I do not want to give the laptop a static IP so that it can be used at local hot spots. Does anyone know why the Vista machine would not just accept the IP given by the router? Its a Linksys router (b/g) about a year and a half old. I suppose I might try updating the firmware, but I think that Vista should just take the IP its given and play nice. Some routers allow you to reserve a specific DHCP assigned IP based on the client MAC Address. Check the Linksys admin pages. Its possible a firmware upgrade, if one is available, might add that feature. You could also use third-party firmware like DD-WRT if your router is supported. DD-WRT calls this "Static DHCP"... http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices Vista also has an alternate address function that will do what you want. Here is an XP article that describes this... http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283676 Lastly a third-party program like NetSwitcher may work for you also... http://www.netswitcher.com -- Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking) Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual benefit of all of us... The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights...
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November 19th 07, 05:10 PM
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Vista grabs first IP in routers range
"Sooner Al [MVP]" wrote in message
... "Jerry Langley III" wrote in message ... We have a new laptop with Vista Premium. We used the same account and password for the other machines. The issue is that in this peer-to-peer network the Vista machine is taking 192.168.1.101 when there is already a machine that has been given this IP. I temporarily solved the problem by giving my other machines (all XP Pro) static IPs. I do not want to give the laptop a static IP so that it can be used at local hot spots. Does anyone know why the Vista machine would not just accept the IP given by the router? Its a Linksys router (b/g) about a year and a half old. I suppose I might try updating the firmware, but I think that Vista should just take the IP its given and play nice. Some routers allow you to reserve a specific DHCP assigned IP based on the client MAC Address. Check the Linksys admin pages. Its possible a firmware upgrade, if one is available, might add that feature. You could also use third-party firmware like DD-WRT if your router is supported. DD-WRT calls this "Static DHCP"... http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices Vista also has an alternate address function that will do what you want. Here is an XP article that describes this... http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283676 Lastly a third-party program like NetSwitcher may work for you also... http://www.netswitcher.com -- Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking) Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual benefit of all of us... The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights... I forgot to add you would need to disable the home router DHCP server and assign a static IP to your laptop in order to use the alternate function. Of course this also presents problems if other guest devices want to connect to your network. Personally I see no issues using static IP addressing for desktops that never move and are on a small home network environment. Its basically set it and forget it. Just make sure the static IPs are outside the range the routers DHCP server assigns. -- Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking) Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual benefit of all of us... The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights...
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November 19th 07, 06:17 PM
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Vista grabs first IP in routers range
Thanks Al
I can do the static IP thing for the fixed machines, as you alluded to there guest devices (WII, DS handheld, Pocket PC etc) and I was concerned that there may be a collision with the laptop. But the bigger question is why this is an issue in the first place. If we take this laptop to a hot spot will it try to do the same thing? There is some kind of bug going on here. "Sooner Al [MVP]" wrote: "Sooner Al [MVP]" wrote in message ... "Jerry Langley III" wrote in message ... We have a new laptop with Vista Premium. We used the same account and password for the other machines. The issue is that in this peer-to-peer network the Vista machine is taking 192.168.1.101 when there is already a machine that has been given this IP. I temporarily solved the problem by giving my other machines (all XP Pro) static IPs. I do not want to give the laptop a static IP so that it can be used at local hot spots. Does anyone know why the Vista machine would not just accept the IP given by the router? Its a Linksys router (b/g) about a year and a half old. I suppose I might try updating the firmware, but I think that Vista should just take the IP its given and play nice. Some routers allow you to reserve a specific DHCP assigned IP based on the client MAC Address. Check the Linksys admin pages. Its possible a firmware upgrade, if one is available, might add that feature. You could also use third-party firmware like DD-WRT if your router is supported. DD-WRT calls this "Static DHCP"... http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices Vista also has an alternate address function that will do what you want. Here is an XP article that describes this... http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283676 Lastly a third-party program like NetSwitcher may work for you also... http://www.netswitcher.com -- Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking) Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual benefit of all of us... The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights... I forgot to add you would need to disable the home router DHCP server and assign a static IP to your laptop in order to use the alternate function. Of course this also presents problems if other guest devices want to connect to your network. Personally I see no issues using static IP addressing for desktops that never move and are on a small home network environment. Its basically set it and forget it. Just make sure the static IPs are outside the range the routers DHCP server assigns. -- Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking) Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual benefit of all of us... The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights...
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November 19th 07, 06:43 PM
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Vista grabs first IP in routers range
"Jerry Langley III" wrote in
message ... Thanks Al I can do the static IP thing for the fixed machines, as you alluded to there guest devices (WII, DS handheld, Pocket PC etc) and I was concerned that there may be a collision with the laptop. But the bigger question is why this is an issue in the first place. If we take this laptop to a hot spot will it try to do the same thing? There is some kind of bug going on here. The DHCP server determines the lease time period. For example the default on the current Belkin F5D7230-4 router I use is "Forever" but I can also select time periods of a half-hour, one hour, two hours, half day, one day, two days, one week or two weeks if I want to. So for example a one hour lease may be appropriate for a public hotspot while a home user, like myself, will opt for the default. Your router may or may not allow you to control the lease period depending on the firmware installed. -- Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking) Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual benefit of all of us... The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights...
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