I think you will find that most major software house do make patches for
there product if it does not work. Failing that use a newer better
piece of software with vista. Just because an app does something does
not mean you have to use it, find a compatable one and convert the
files.


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Windows Vista is compatible with a lot of older programs, but not all.
1005 backwards compatibility is not practical.
Many feel Microsoft should not consider backwards compatibility at
all.
If Microsoft had dome so, Windows Vista would be leaner but almost
nothing old would be compatible.
That group was disappointed as well as you.
Instead Microsoft took a middle ground.
They did what they felt best for their customers as far as backwards
compatibility.
Microsoft drew the line.
Where would you suggest the line be drawn?
You should draw it at a point where no one can complain.
The line had to be drawn somewhere.
This is nothing new with Windows Vista, it happens whenever there is a
new operating system.

If so many of your programs do not work, perhaps it is best if you
stay with Windows XP or as you suggest, purchase a Mac.

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"John Adams" wrote in message
m...
Yea, the onus is on Microsoft to make their OS compatible with the
apps we use. If I wanted a completely different incompatible OS I
would have bought a Mac.

Paul Knudsen wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:35:31 +0100, "James Matthews"
wrote:

I just don't understand what people's problem with windows vista is!
Everyone says it doesn't work with 3rd party applications.... well guess
who's fault that is! The company that made the app!

Well...to be fair...Vista did not exist when the wrote it.


That's true enough, but those same companies had years in which to get
their products ready for Vista, didn't they? It's not as if Vista was
developed at some super secret laboratory and sprung on the world all at
once.


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John Adams wrote:
Charlie Tame wrote:

Except when Microsoft sneak updates in through the back door, same
problem as every, no?

Not to mention that Windows OS also has a back door for that US
government spy agency.


Yeah, but given the degree of competence shown by such agencies in the
past should we worry, except of course for the chance of getting a free
vacation in Cuba because of what someone else did

Joking aside though if MS have the technology to sneak things in how
long before someone else gets it.

Going back to XP SP2 I made some CDs for friends etc and at the end of
the install it said something like The Activex control has disabled all
security, you should restart immediately...

Now don't take that as a quote but I recall thinking at the time what if
someone hacked out whatever does that and used it maliciously. At the
end of that install it seemed like you could do anything at all with the
machine, so presumably anything that could run in that context would do
so also.

Now that is probably also possible with Linux and anything else, but
worth remembering that we really have only checksums and certs to
protect us and sometimes MS don't seem to get around to signing their
own work, so when it says "Not signed, accept anyway?" people will.

John Adams wrote:
Paul Knudsen wrote:


Well...to be fair...Vista did not exist when the wrote it.

Yea, the onus is on Microsoft to make their OS compatible with the apps
we use. If I wanted a completely different incompatible OS I would have
bought a Mac.


Right, I think that is an impression that many people had, simply
because it has always been so and maybe a little because MS seem to have
tried to cultivate that impression, therefore what I see in a lot of
posts here is more "Disappointment" than real animosity.

Personally I feel that a number of MS recent actions tend to push people
away, which in combination are better than anything Linux / Mac
advocates could have done.

Man-wai Chang ToDie wrote:
Um, XP has that too. I've got a better solution. Use Windows as the
toy OS it was meant to be for running games etc. and use Linux for
everything else.

All Linux is need are games to really make it more popular



But Ubuntu already ships with literally dozens of screen-savers and a
quite a few simple games; it can't be used for much else.


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"John Adams" wrote in message
m...
Yea, the onus is on Microsoft to make their OS compatible with the apps we
use. If I wanted a completely different incompatible OS I would have
bought a Mac.

LOL! That has to be the dumbest statement in this whole thread.

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is! Now if you didn't trust Microsoft then you wouldn't use there OS! But
since you trust them what's the issue that you have with getting "Sneaky"
updates

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"Charlie Tame" wrote in message
...
James Matthews wrote:
Lets look at the big issues with windows xp!

1. All code that is run can be run in Kernel mode (Ring 0) that is like
leaving your front door open!

In vista!

You run as a limited user! Solved!!!



Except when Microsoft sneak updates in through the back door, same problem
as every, no?

LOL

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"wschlichtman" wrote in message
...
I have to agree with the previous responses. Preparation is the key. If you
stil;l have a copy of the original XP laying around, load it up and
install
the same hardware/software you had with Windows 3.1 (and don't load any
new
drivers, etc.) Let's see if you have a different experience. I'm sure it
was
a similar experience.

I'm sure the Leopard users would have similar issues, if they had enough
knowledge to even try to keep any software/harware from their old systems.

It's the nature of advancing the technology. I thank God there are
problems.
I am 2nd/3rd-level tech support and I feed a family with money from
technology advancement. THANK YOU MICROSOFT! And you too, 3rd party
vendors.

"James Matthews" wrote:

hi,

I just don't understand what people's problem with windows vista is!
Everyone says it doesn't work with 3rd party applications.... well guess
who's fault that is! The company that made the app!

Anyways I wanted to hear what issues people had with vista and how we can
resolve them!





Thanks
James
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In light of security concerns i don't agree with you! The way windows
security works is based on Tokens and i feel they have to secure some parts
of the OS

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"R10" wrote in message
...
Let's not ever think that it should have been Microsoft's responsibility
to
ensure that hardware and/or programmes that worked just fine under Windows
XP
would not work under their 'new' Vista operating system.

I have tried for 6 months to find resolves to issues with no success and
have finally decided to contact my 'new' computer supplier and find out
what
is involved to get rid of Vista and run my 'new' computer with XP.

The last straw was losing my one and only user id's ability to have
Administator privileges required when I download one of Vista's updates.

"James Matthews" wrote:

hi,

I just don't understand what people's problem with windows vista is!
Everyone says it doesn't work with 3rd party applications.... well guess
who's fault that is! The company that made the app!

Anyways I wanted to hear what issues people had with vista and how we can
resolve them!





Thanks
James
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