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File sharing not allowed in Vista



 
 
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Old November 30th 07, 08:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Jeff Marcum
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Default File sharing not allowed in Vista

I have tried everything both imaginable and suggested in the forums and other
web sites and still cannot allow my Vista machine's files to be accessed from
other network computers in my house. I can see the folders from my 2 other xp
machines, but when I click on the folders I get the usual message indicating
my access is denied, don't have permission, etc. This has been three days in
the works and still nothing. Everytime I change everything to allow sharing
it looks good; however, once I close the file manager and open it up again,
the settings have reverted back to not allowing sharing.

In the course of my search, I have not yet found anyone to have successfully
resolved the issue. I appears that Vista simply does not allow sharing, yet
no one is willing to admit it. Please either admit this is beyond Vista's
capabiltiy or give a bonafide step-by-step procedure on how to allow sharing.
I have read the other step-by-step procedures posted on the MS web site, but
to no avail. Such
ashttp://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...509051033.mspx) and all links on that page.

I have found nothing to explain why the settings do not hold their positions.


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Old November 30th 07, 09:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
GTS
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Default File sharing not allowed in Vista

Vista certainly does allow sharing. (I just passed some files back and
forth on my Win 2K machine and have done so with various network computers
routinely using Vista, XP, and Win2K to a Vista share.)

I sympathize with your obvious frustration, but you don't give enough
information for anyone to be able to give much practical assistance. What
version of Vista? Are you trying to use password protected or public
sharing? What 3rd party security software are you running if any? etc.
etc.

The link below might be of some help.

File and Printer Sharing in Windows Vista
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx
--

"Jeff Marcum" Jeff wrote in message
...
I have tried everything both imaginable and suggested in the forums and
other
web sites and still cannot allow my Vista machine's files to be accessed
from
other network computers in my house. I can see the folders from my 2 other
xp
machines, but when I click on the folders I get the usual message
indicating
my access is denied, don't have permission, etc. This has been three days
in
the works and still nothing. Everytime I change everything to allow
sharing
it looks good; however, once I close the file manager and open it up
again,
the settings have reverted back to not allowing sharing.

In the course of my search, I have not yet found anyone to have
successfully
resolved the issue. I appears that Vista simply does not allow sharing,
yet
no one is willing to admit it. Please either admit this is beyond Vista's
capabiltiy or give a bonafide step-by-step procedure on how to allow
sharing.
I have read the other step-by-step procedures posted on the MS web site,
but
to no avail. Such
as
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...509051033.mspx)
and all links on that page.

I have found nothing to explain why the settings do not hold their
positions.



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Old December 1st 07, 12:23 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Robert L. \(MS-MVP\)
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Default File sharing not allowed in Vista

What's the network status of the network and Sharing Center? Public or
private?

--
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Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com


"Jeff Marcum" Jeff wrote in message
...
I have tried everything both imaginable and suggested in the forums and
other
web sites and still cannot allow my Vista machine's files to be accessed
from
other network computers in my house. I can see the folders from my 2 other
xp
machines, but when I click on the folders I get the usual message
indicating
my access is denied, don't have permission, etc. This has been three days
in
the works and still nothing. Everytime I change everything to allow
sharing
it looks good; however, once I close the file manager and open it up
again,
the settings have reverted back to not allowing sharing.

In the course of my search, I have not yet found anyone to have
successfully
resolved the issue. I appears that Vista simply does not allow sharing,
yet
no one is willing to admit it. Please either admit this is beyond Vista's
capabiltiy or give a bonafide step-by-step procedure on how to allow
sharing.
I have read the other step-by-step procedures posted on the MS web site,
but
to no avail. Such
as
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...509051033.mspx)
and all links on that page.

I have found nothing to explain why the settings do not hold their
positions.



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Old December 1st 07, 12:25 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Jeff Marcum[_2_]
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Posts: 4
Default File sharing not allowed in Vista

GTS,

Thank you for responding. Yes, I am frustrated, which is why I wasn't very
helpful in providing more info. Sorry about that. Please allow me to start
over with the following information:

Vista version: Home Premium
Workgroup Name: Workgroup.

After right clicking on a folder, I select Properties. When the folder
properties window opens, I select Sharing. The Share button under folder
icon is greyed out, thus not allowing me the option to select it. I have not
found a way to allow me to select that button.

My settings in Sharing and Discovery are as follows:
Nework discovery: On
File Sharing: On
Public folder sharing: On
Printer sharing: On
Password Protected sharing: Off
Media sharing: On

In addition, I at first made exceptions with my Windows firewall, but that
did nothing, and I have since turned the firewall completely off...also to no
avail. I have no 3rd party firewall installed.

I am generally computer savy and have selected every possible option that
indicates it should allow sharing, but I have made no progress.

Thanks.

"GTS" wrote:

Vista certainly does allow sharing. (I just passed some files back and
forth on my Win 2K machine and have done so with various network computers
routinely using Vista, XP, and Win2K to a Vista share.)

I sympathize with your obvious frustration, but you don't give enough
information for anyone to be able to give much practical assistance. What
version of Vista? Are you trying to use password protected or public
sharing? What 3rd party security software are you running if any? etc.
etc.

The link below might be of some help.

File and Printer Sharing in Windows Vista
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx
--

"Jeff Marcum" Jeff wrote in message
...
I have tried everything both imaginable and suggested in the forums and
other
web sites and still cannot allow my Vista machine's files to be accessed
from
other network computers in my house. I can see the folders from my 2 other
xp
machines, but when I click on the folders I get the usual message
indicating
my access is denied, don't have permission, etc. This has been three days
in
the works and still nothing. Everytime I change everything to allow
sharing
it looks good; however, once I close the file manager and open it up
again,
the settings have reverted back to not allowing sharing.

In the course of my search, I have not yet found anyone to have
successfully
resolved the issue. I appears that Vista simply does not allow sharing,
yet
no one is willing to admit it. Please either admit this is beyond Vista's
capabiltiy or give a bonafide step-by-step procedure on how to allow
sharing.
I have read the other step-by-step procedures posted on the MS web site,
but
to no avail. Such
as
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...509051033.mspx)
and all links on that page.

I have found nothing to explain why the settings do not hold their
positions.




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Old December 1st 07, 01:05 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Jeff Marcum[_2_]
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Posts: 4
Default File sharing not allowed in Vista

Right now it is Private, but I have tried both: neither with success.

"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:

What's the network status of the network and Sharing Center? Public or
private?

--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com


"Jeff Marcum" Jeff wrote in message
...
I have tried everything both imaginable and suggested in the forums and
other
web sites and still cannot allow my Vista machine's files to be accessed
from
other network computers in my house. I can see the folders from my 2 other
xp
machines, but when I click on the folders I get the usual message
indicating
my access is denied, don't have permission, etc. This has been three days
in
the works and still nothing. Everytime I change everything to allow
sharing
it looks good; however, once I close the file manager and open it up
again,
the settings have reverted back to not allowing sharing.

In the course of my search, I have not yet found anyone to have
successfully
resolved the issue. I appears that Vista simply does not allow sharing,
yet
no one is willing to admit it. Please either admit this is beyond Vista's
capabiltiy or give a bonafide step-by-step procedure on how to allow
sharing.
I have read the other step-by-step procedures posted on the MS web site,
but
to no avail. Such
as
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...509051033.mspx)
and all links on that page.

I have found nothing to explain why the settings do not hold their
positions.



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Old December 1st 07, 03:23 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
GTS
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Posts: 405
Default File sharing not allowed in Vista

That's a good summary. Here's are a few initial ideas/question.

- If you open a command prompt and enter the command "net user guest" does
it show the guest account as active? If not, run
"net user guest /active:yes" in an elevated command prompt to turn it on, as
it's used for non-password protected sharing.

- If you click "Show me all the shared network folders on this computer" at
the bottom of the Network and Sharing center screen does anything show?
(I'm particularly curious as to whether it shows the "Public" folder as
shared.)

- What folders have you tried to share? What happens if you try to share
your "Documents" folder?
--

"GTS" wrote in message
...
Vista certainly does allow sharing. (I just passed some files back and
forth on my Win 2K machine and have done so with various network computers
routinely using Vista, XP, and Win2K to a Vista share.)

I sympathize with your obvious frustration, but you don't give enough
information for anyone to be able to give much practical assistance. What
version of Vista? Are you trying to use password protected or public
sharing? What 3rd party security software are you running if any? etc.
etc.

The link below might be of some help.

File and Printer Sharing in Windows Vista
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx
--

"Jeff Marcum" Jeff wrote in message
...
I have tried everything both imaginable and suggested in the forums and
other
web sites and still cannot allow my Vista machine's files to be accessed
from
other network computers in my house. I can see the folders from my 2
other xp
machines, but when I click on the folders I get the usual message
indicating
my access is denied, don't have permission, etc. This has been three days
in
the works and still nothing. Everytime I change everything to allow
sharing
it looks good; however, once I close the file manager and open it up
again,
the settings have reverted back to not allowing sharing.

In the course of my search, I have not yet found anyone to have
successfully
resolved the issue. I appears that Vista simply does not allow sharing,
yet
no one is willing to admit it. Please either admit this is beyond Vista's
capabiltiy or give a bonafide step-by-step procedure on how to allow
sharing.
I have read the other step-by-step procedures posted on the MS web site,
but
to no avail. Such
as
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...509051033.mspx)
and all links on that page.

I have found nothing to explain why the settings do not hold their
positions.




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Old December 1st 07, 03:44 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Mick Murphy
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Default File sharing not allowed in Vista

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx

Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.

1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is
the SAME.

In Vista Network and Sharing:

Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers)

Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)

File Sharing: ON

Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared
Docs)

Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and
passwords on ALL computers in your Network) If you have it ON, you will be
asked for a username and password when you try to access a Vista computer
from an XP computer.

Also, run the XP’s Home Network File and Printer sharing Wizard


"Jeff Marcum" wrote:

I have tried everything both imaginable and suggested in the forums and other
web sites and still cannot allow my Vista machine's files to be accessed from
other network computers in my house. I can see the folders from my 2 other xp
machines, but when I click on the folders I get the usual message indicating
my access is denied, don't have permission, etc. This has been three days in
the works and still nothing. Everytime I change everything to allow sharing
it looks good; however, once I close the file manager and open it up again,
the settings have reverted back to not allowing sharing.

In the course of my search, I have not yet found anyone to have successfully
resolved the issue. I appears that Vista simply does not allow sharing, yet
no one is willing to admit it. Please either admit this is beyond Vista's
capabiltiy or give a bonafide step-by-step procedure on how to allow sharing.
I have read the other step-by-step procedures posted on the MS web site, but
to no avail. Such
ashttp://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...509051033.mspx) and all links on that page.

I have found nothing to explain why the settings do not hold their positions.


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Old December 1st 07, 03:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Jeff Marcum[_2_]
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Default File sharing not allowed in Vista

I've read that and have done everything as outlined. Moreover, the workgroup
name is the same on all computers and all settings are set as you outlined
each of them below. Both XP computers' nework file and print sharing wizards
have also been run.

"Mick Murphy" wrote:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx

Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.

1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is
the SAME.

In Vista Network and Sharing:

Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers)

Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)

File Sharing: ON

Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared
Docs)

Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and
passwords on ALL computers in your Network) If you have it ON, you will be
asked for a username and password when you try to access a Vista computer
from an XP computer.

Also, run the XP’s Home Network File and Printer sharing Wizard


"Jeff Marcum" wrote:

I have tried everything both imaginable and suggested in the forums and other
web sites and still cannot allow my Vista machine's files to be accessed from
other network computers in my house. I can see the folders from my 2 other xp
machines, but when I click on the folders I get the usual message indicating
my access is denied, don't have permission, etc. This has been three days in
the works and still nothing. Everytime I change everything to allow sharing
it looks good; however, once I close the file manager and open it up again,
the settings have reverted back to not allowing sharing.

In the course of my search, I have not yet found anyone to have successfully
resolved the issue. I appears that Vista simply does not allow sharing, yet
no one is willing to admit it. Please either admit this is beyond Vista's
capabiltiy or give a bonafide step-by-step procedure on how to allow sharing.
I have read the other step-by-step procedures posted on the MS web site, but
to no avail. Such
ashttp://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...509051033.mspx) and all links on that page.

I have found nothing to explain why the settings do not hold their positions.


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Old December 3rd 07, 05:30 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
mike4advtr
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Default File sharing not allowed in Vista

Jeff try this from my posting 11/26/07:
Found my solution ( at least for me). Permissions are indeed granted in two
places. The trick that worked for me was in the security tab you must "edit"
permissions then "add" which allows you to type in the box "Everybody" which
is not listed, you have to type it in. I would not have known to type it if
not for "Everybody" being the default term in the share permissions folder.
Really overly complicated, I though this was all to be much easier.

"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:

Make sure you also assigned permissions in the Security tab. This link may
help too,

Vista Permission IssuesPost Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:14 am Post subject:
How to: check permissions using Vista icacls command, Reply with quote . ...
www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistapermission.htm


--
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Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com


"mike4advtr" wrote in message
...
All 3 -XP computers on my home network can't access shared folders from
1-Vista computer although they can see them, a click yields a "access
denied"
message. All computers in same workgroup, permissions to "everybody"
granted.
Vista machine sees all XP shared folders and accesses them fine. This
problem
seems opposite what others experience in other posts. Help?




"Jeff Marcum" wrote:

I have tried everything both imaginable and suggested in the forums and other
web sites and still cannot allow my Vista machine's files to be accessed from
other network computers in my house. I can see the folders from my 2 other xp
machines, but when I click on the folders I get the usual message indicating
my access is denied, don't have permission, etc. This has been three days in
the works and still nothing. Everytime I change everything to allow sharing
it looks good; however, once I close the file manager and open it up again,
the settings have reverted back to not allowing sharing.

In the course of my search, I have not yet found anyone to have successfully
resolved the issue. I appears that Vista simply does not allow sharing, yet
no one is willing to admit it. Please either admit this is beyond Vista's
capabiltiy or give a bonafide step-by-step procedure on how to allow sharing.
I have read the other step-by-step procedures posted on the MS web site, but
to no avail. Such
ashttp://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...509051033.mspx) and all links on that page.

I have found nothing to explain why the settings do not hold their positions.


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Old December 3rd 07, 05:39 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
mike4advtr
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Default File sharing not allowed in Vista

I think you are describing my troubles, if you are try this:
(Copy of posting)
Found my solution ( at least for me). Permissions are indeed granted in two
places. The trick that worked for me was in the security tab (after share
tab) you must "edit" permissions then "add" which allows you to type in the
box "Everybody" which is not listed, you have to type it in. I would not have
known to type it if not for "Everybody" being the default term in the share
permissions folder. Really overly complicated, I thought this was all to be
much easier.


"Jeff Marcum" wrote:

I have tried everything both imaginable and suggested in the forums and other
web sites and still cannot allow my Vista machine's files to be accessed from
other network computers in my house. I can see the folders from my 2 other xp
machines, but when I click on the folders I get the usual message indicating
my access is denied, don't have permission, etc. This has been three days in
the works and still nothing. Everytime I change everything to allow sharing
it looks good; however, once I close the file manager and open it up again,
the settings have reverted back to not allowing sharing.

In the course of my search, I have not yet found anyone to have successfully
resolved the issue. I appears that Vista simply does not allow sharing, yet
no one is willing to admit it. Please either admit this is beyond Vista's
capabiltiy or give a bonafide step-by-step procedure on how to allow sharing.
I have read the other step-by-step procedures posted on the MS web site, but
to no avail. Such
ashttp://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...509051033.mspx) and all links on that page.

I have found nothing to explain why the settings do not hold their positions.


 




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