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vista WON'T boot with 4gb
i will try raising to voltage, but what speed is the ram now? -- Violent Ken Ultimate x64\Q6600 G0\8800GTS\4Gb Crucial 1066 Ballistix\Gigabyte P35C-DS3R |
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vista WON'T boot with 4gb
My memory is running at 1066 at 5-5-5-15. I've noticed some instability in OCCT though and it's not overclocked which is worrying. I'm at work now so I'll fiddle tonight. Was there a slight difference in appearance in the heat-spreaders with your memory chips? There is in mine. I wonder if the actual chips in the memory are different and are causing hassles (even though they shouldn't be... that's a motherboard problem). -- papa G |
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vista WON'T boot with 4gb
Hi Ken, After fiddling around and looking on forums it seems the motherboard has a problem with 4GB of performance memory. There are also X38 chipset Gigabyte boards with the issue. 3GB of memory will work fine but as soon as you put in the 4th it is difficult to get running at 1066 unless you raise the voltage quite high (2.3V - 2.4V). If you have overclocked your FSB or CPU then you won't be able to run it at 1066Mhz. I also emailed Gigabyte tech support and received this: Please ensure load optimized default is set in the main BIOS, and check the RAM timings and voltage is set in the BIOS under M.I.T to the manufacturer spec. Alternatively please see the memory support list:- http://uk.giga-byte.com/FileList/Mem...-p35c-ds3r.pdf Basically they're saying Crucial isn't on the supported list so they'll do nothing. The sad news is I'm now getting rid of my GA-P35C-DS3R mothboard because of the issue. I'm going for the Abit IP35. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. -G -- papa G |
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vista WON'T boot with 4gb
I have a similar problem. Vista 64 has been running perfect with 2G memory on
a AM2 6000+ processor. When installing additional 2 G's Vista hangs during boot. The last driver loaded is CRCDISK.SYS. The bios recognizes 4G and booting XP from boot CD gives no problems. I have tried the kb929777 patch, but this did not solve the problem. Please do anybody have another suggestion. Best regards Bent Bryrup "Brett I. Holcomb" wrote: Check the MS Knowledgebase - there is a fix for issues with 4 gig. Here's an article - it's for install http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929777/en-us On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 11:44:07 -0600, Violent Ken wrote: help me vista gurus. after using this PC about 1 month i finally got my RMA replacement of 2gbRAM everything is 100% stable with 2GB, but when i add the 2nd 2gb vista will not boot. something about sptd.exe failed or corrupt. however BOTH 2gb kits boot vista and work perfectly alone, but all 4gb in at once will not boot any ideas? i know the memory is fine thanks in advance as i cannot figure this out |
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vista WON'T boot with 4gb
Yes, it is the 4x1GB 800 dimms issue. I have it myself. The MS patch
addresses the issue on some machines but by no means all. The fact that XP x86 runs fine with the 4 dimms installed is not indicative that everything will work when a 64-bit OS is installed. On my machine I can run x86 OS's with 4GB installed but I have to remove memory to run an x64 OS or the computer will blue screen. This usually occurs with 800 memory. 667 seems to be OK and the problem has much to do with timings. The first thing to check for is any BIOS updates that address stablility using 800 dimms. Another fix often showing up in the mobo forums is to back off the memory voltage from 2.0 to 1.95 (or until stability is achieved) on mobos that support overclocking and that provide adjustable settings in the BIOS. As far as I can tell, there is no single fix that works in every case. Since present my mobo doesn't support a quad core cpu I am about to replace the mobo and cpu on Thursday. I have put up with the issue for a year. This time I did a lot more research into which mobo will work out better. "Brett I. Holcomb" wrote in message news There was/is an issue with Vista and 4 gig and I believe MS has a fix for it. Sorry I don't have any details but search on Vista not booting with 4 gig. On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 12:08:00 -0800, Bent Bryrup Bent wrote: I have a similar problem. Vista 64 has been running perfect with 2G memory on a AM2 6000+ processor. When installing additional 2 G's Vista hangs during boot. The last driver loaded is CRCDISK.SYS. The bios recognizes 4G and booting XP from boot CD gives no problems. I have tried the kb929777 patch, but this did not solve the problem. Please do anybody have another suggestion. Best regards Bent Bryrup "Brett I. Holcomb" wrote: Check the MS Knowledgebase - there is a fix for issues with 4 gig. Here's an article - it's for install http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929777/en-us On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 11:44:07 -0600, Violent Ken wrote: help me vista gurus. after using this PC about 1 month i finally got my RMA replacement of 2gbRAM everything is 100% stable with 2GB, but when i add the 2nd 2gb vista will not boot. something about sptd.exe failed or corrupt. however BOTH 2gb kits boot vista and work perfectly alone, but all 4gb in at once will not boot any ideas? i know the memory is fine thanks in advance as i cannot figure this out |
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vista WON'T boot with 4gb
On 30-Dec-2007, "Colin Barnhorst" wrote: everything is 100% stable with 2GB, but when i add the 2nd 2gb vista will not boot. Can depend on the brand of memory, and the chips memory organisation. Crucial and a few others are using the D9HNL memory chip (Google for D9HNL) . I'm running 4GB of Crucial D9HNL based memory, and Vista Ultimate 64bit, with no stability or booting problems. Not impossible but a quality PSU might help, I note that during boot ASUS (processor) Q'fan ramps up to top speed, suggesting that during boot the CPU is running 100%, so boot may be the PSU's worst case load. After boot everything go pretty well silent. I'm using Antec, but there are many PSU's that are much better than the cheap ones packaged with some cases. |
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vista WON'T boot with 4gb
Of course. Some mobos and memory combinations have no trouble at all.
Anyway, I am not troubleshooting it. I am replacing mine. My post was in response to the OP. wrote in message ... On 30-Dec-2007, "Colin Barnhorst" wrote: everything is 100% stable with 2GB, but when i add the 2nd 2gb vista will not boot. Can depend on the brand of memory, and the chips memory organisation. Crucial and a few others are using the D9HNL memory chip (Google for D9HNL) . I'm running 4GB of Crucial D9HNL based memory, and Vista Ultimate 64bit, with no stability or booting problems. Not impossible but a quality PSU might help, I note that during boot ASUS (processor) Q'fan ramps up to top speed, suggesting that during boot the CPU is running 100%, so boot may be the PSU's worst case load. After boot everything go pretty well silent. I'm using Antec, but there are many PSU's that are much better than the cheap ones packaged with some cases. |
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vista WON'T boot with 4gb
"Violent Ken" wrote: help me vista gurus. after using this PC about 1 month i finally got my RMA replacement of 2gbRAM everything is 100% stable with 2GB, but when i add the 2nd 2gb vista will not boot. something about sptd.exe failed or corrupt. however BOTH 2gb kits boot vista and work perfectly alone, but all 4gb in at once will not boot any ideas? i know the memory is fine thanks in advance as i cannot figure this out -- Violent Ken Ultimate x64\Q6600 G0\8800GTS\4Gb Crucial 1066 Ballistix\Gigabyte P35C-DS3R |
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vista WON'T boot with 4gb
Ken, please read the information posted by Mr. Brett Holcomb, it is a little
further down the page and has a download link to an update file. You will have to boot and install Vista with 3 Gigs or less of RAM, then install the update from windows, then power down and install additional memory modules, but it works, and worked well on my Vista 64 bit Ultimate edition. I am not sure why the Windows Update utility does not offer this at least as an optional update, I would have thought it would be under an important update category, but it should resolve your RAM issues. "Violent Ken" wrote: help me vista gurus. after using this PC about 1 month i finally got my RMA replacement of 2gbRAM everything is 100% stable with 2GB, but when i add the 2nd 2gb vista will not boot. something about sptd.exe failed or corrupt. however BOTH 2gb kits boot vista and work perfectly alone, but all 4gb in at once will not boot any ideas? i know the memory is fine thanks in advance as i cannot figure this out -- Violent Ken Ultimate x64\Q6600 G0\8800GTS\4Gb Crucial 1066 Ballistix\Gigabyte P35C-DS3R |
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vista WON'T boot with 4gb
It's because the hotfix has not been tested sufficiently yet to release
generally. There are hundreds of such hotfixes that apply to only a small number of users. A lot of them get included in the next service pack. Some remain highly specialized fixes. "Buff69King" wrote in message news Ken, please read the information posted by Mr. Brett Holcomb, it is a little further down the page and has a download link to an update file. You will have to boot and install Vista with 3 Gigs or less of RAM, then install the update from windows, then power down and install additional memory modules, but it works, and worked well on my Vista 64 bit Ultimate edition. I am not sure why the Windows Update utility does not offer this at least as an optional update, I would have thought it would be under an important update category, but it should resolve your RAM issues. "Violent Ken" wrote: help me vista gurus. after using this PC about 1 month i finally got my RMA replacement of 2gbRAM everything is 100% stable with 2GB, but when i add the 2nd 2gb vista will not boot. something about sptd.exe failed or corrupt. however BOTH 2gb kits boot vista and work perfectly alone, but all 4gb in at once will not boot any ideas? i know the memory is fine thanks in advance as i cannot figure this out -- Violent Ken Ultimate x64\Q6600 G0\8800GTS\4Gb Crucial 1066 Ballistix\Gigabyte P35C-DS3R |