Absolutely BRILLIANT!
quotePrerequisites
To apply this update, you must have Windows Vista installed on a computer
that uses more than 3 GB of RAM./quote

If I can’t boot with 3GB then how the h*** am I going to apply the update?
I have had it up to HERE! I give up.
I have a DELL XPS-720 4GB with Vista Business x86, x64 and XP pro x86, x64.
- XP Pro 64 bit – If I forget to remove the network cable then starting up
hangs my router and I have to reset it. I also miss functionality in my
printer and scanner.
- Vista x86 32 bit – Works after a fashion, except that all except basic
functionality is gone from my printer and scanner and I can only use 3 GB.
- Vista 64 bit – See above posts

The ONLY OS that works is good old XP Pro 32 bit!
I am sick, I have had it. I am switching over to Mac.

"Brett I. Holcomb" wrote:

Check the MS Knowledgebase - there is a fix for issues with 4 gig.

Here's an article - it's for install
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929777/en-us



On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 11:44:07 -0600, Violent Ken
wrote:


help me vista gurus.

after using this PC about 1 month i finally got my RMA replacement of
2gbRAM

everything is 100% stable with 2GB, but when i add the 2nd 2gb vista
will not boot.

something about sptd.exe failed or corrupt. however BOTH 2gb kits boot
vista and work perfectly alone, but all 4gb in at once will not boot

any ideas? i know the memory is fine

thanks in advance as i cannot figure this out

It doesn't mean that you can't install it without the full ram, it just
means that it is intended for systems trying to use more than 3GB of ram and
running into problems.

"Future Mac user" Future Mac wrote in
message ...
Absolutely BRILLIANT!
quotePrerequisites
To apply this update, you must have Windows Vista installed on a computer
that uses more than 3 GB of RAM./quote

If I can’t boot with 3GB then how the h*** am I going to apply the
update?
I have had it up to HERE! I give up.
I have a DELL XPS-720 4GB with Vista Business x86, x64 and XP pro x86,
x64.
- XP Pro 64 bit – If I forget to remove the network cable then starting up
hangs my router and I have to reset it. I also miss functionality in my
printer and scanner.
- Vista x86 32 bit – Works after a fashion, except that all except basic
functionality is gone from my printer and scanner and I can only use 3 GB.
- Vista 64 bit – See above posts

The ONLY OS that works is good old XP Pro 32 bit!
I am sick, I have had it. I am switching over to Mac.

"Brett I. Holcomb" wrote:

Check the MS Knowledgebase - there is a fix for issues with 4 gig.

Here's an article - it's for install
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929777/en-us



On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 11:44:07 -0600, Violent Ken
wrote:


help me vista gurus.

after using this PC about 1 month i finally got my RMA replacement of
2gbRAM

everything is 100% stable with 2GB, but when i add the 2nd 2gb vista
will not boot.

something about sptd.exe failed or corrupt. however BOTH 2gb kits boot
vista and work perfectly alone, but all 4gb in at once will not boot

any ideas? i know the memory is fine

thanks in advance as i cannot figure this out

John;531542 Wrote:
"Violent Ken" wrote in message
...

thanks for fast reply

i finally got it working but i had to underclock the 4gb from 1066 to
800

i suppose vista 64 can't run 4gb at 1066 fro some reason

Make sure the memory is running at the right voltage.
My Intel motherboard was running my OCZ memory at
1.8 volts but the memory is supposed to be run at 2.1 volts.
Once I tweaked the BIOS to supply the right voltage all
of my stability problems vanished.


Cool thanks. It seems to help with al my problem exept my wireles
connection when playing online games....


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I encountered the exact same problem with Windows Vista 32-bit. My PC has
worked fine with 2GB of memory. I figured upgrading would be simple and
purchase a new set of Corsair Dominator 2GB PC2-8500 C5 1066MHz modules (2 x
1GB DDR2). This pair is EXACTLY the same type as was originally in the PC.
With 4GB installed, I would get the Blue Screen of death when attempting to
boot. Even when trying to boot in safe mode. I tried some of the things
suggested here and then decided to see if my motherboard had an updated BIOS
available. Sure enough, my BIOS was a year old and one of the new versions
reads "Improve Memory compatibility". I didn't think upgrading the BIOS
would fix the problem since the original and new memory was working fine when
installed separately. But to my surprise, it fixed the problem. I am now
running Windows Vista 32-bit with 4GB memory installed and it reports that
the system has 4.0 GB. Whether is uses all 4 GB, I don't care. I just
wanted it to work. So the first thing I would check if you get this problem
is your BIOS.

"Violent Ken" wrote:


help me vista gurus.

after using this PC about 1 month i finally got my RMA replacement of
2gbRAM

everything is 100% stable with 2GB, but when i add the 2nd 2gb vista
will not boot.

something about sptd.exe failed or corrupt. however BOTH 2gb kits boot
vista and work perfectly alone, but all 4gb in at once will not boot

any ideas? i know the memory is fine

thanks in advance as i cannot figure this out


--
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Ultimate x64\Q6600 G0\8800GTS\4Gb Crucial 1066 Ballistix\Gigabyte
P35C-DS3R

Your Bios reports 4 Gig but your system will report only 3Gigs or about in Vista

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"Henry Morgan" Henry wrote in message ...
I encountered the exact same problem with Windows Vista 32-bit. My PC has
worked fine with 2GB of memory. I figured upgrading would be simple and
purchase a new set of Corsair Dominator 2GB PC2-8500 C5 1066MHz modules (2 x
1GB DDR2). This pair is EXACTLY the same type as was originally in the PC.
With 4GB installed, I would get the Blue Screen of death when attempting to
boot. Even when trying to boot in safe mode. I tried some of the things
suggested here and then decided to see if my motherboard had an updated BIOS
available. Sure enough, my BIOS was a year old and one of the new versions
reads "Improve Memory compatibility". I didn't think upgrading the BIOS
would fix the problem since the original and new memory was working fine when
installed separately. But to my surprise, it fixed the problem. I am now
running Windows Vista 32-bit with 4GB memory installed and it reports that
the system has 4.0 GB. Whether is uses all 4 GB, I don't care. I just
wanted it to work. So the first thing I would check if you get this problem
is your BIOS.

"Violent Ken" wrote:


help me vista gurus.

after using this PC about 1 month i finally got my RMA replacement of
2gbRAM

everything is 100% stable with 2GB, but when i add the 2nd 2gb vista
will not boot.

something about sptd.exe failed or corrupt. however BOTH 2gb kits boot
vista and work perfectly alone, but all 4gb in at once will not boot

any ideas? i know the memory is fine

thanks in advance as i cannot figure this out


--
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Ultimate x64\Q6600 G0\8800GTS\4Gb Crucial 1066 Ballistix\Gigabyte
P35C-DS3R

Sorry to not agree, but on my version of Windows Vista 32-bit it shows 4.0GB.
I went to Control Panel, System and Maintenance, and under System, I clicked
on View amount of RAM and processor speed and it shows:
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz 2.39 GHz
Memory (RAM): 4.0 GB
System type: 32-bit Operating System

I don't know if it can use all 4.0GB, but it is displaying it correctly.
Are you looking at the amount of memory somewhere else?

"Peter Foldes" wrote:

Your Bios reports 4 Gig but your system will report only 3Gigs or about in Vista

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"Henry Morgan" Henry wrote in message ...
I encountered the exact same problem with Windows Vista 32-bit. My PC has
worked fine with 2GB of memory. I figured upgrading would be simple and
purchase a new set of Corsair Dominator 2GB PC2-8500 C5 1066MHz modules (2 x
1GB DDR2). This pair is EXACTLY the same type as was originally in the PC.
With 4GB installed, I would get the Blue Screen of death when attempting to
boot. Even when trying to boot in safe mode. I tried some of the things
suggested here and then decided to see if my motherboard had an updated BIOS
available. Sure enough, my BIOS was a year old and one of the new versions
reads "Improve Memory compatibility". I didn't think upgrading the BIOS
would fix the problem since the original and new memory was working fine when
installed separately. But to my surprise, it fixed the problem. I am now
running Windows Vista 32-bit with 4GB memory installed and it reports that
the system has 4.0 GB. Whether is uses all 4 GB, I don't care. I just
wanted it to work. So the first thing I would check if you get this problem
is your BIOS.

"Violent Ken" wrote:


help me vista gurus.

after using this PC about 1 month i finally got my RMA replacement of
2gbRAM

everything is 100% stable with 2GB, but when i add the 2nd 2gb vista
will not boot.

something about sptd.exe failed or corrupt. however BOTH 2gb kits boot
vista and work perfectly alone, but all 4gb in at once will not boot

any ideas? i know the memory is fine

thanks in advance as i cannot figure this out


--
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Ultimate x64\Q6600 G0\8800GTS\4Gb Crucial 1066 Ballistix\Gigabyte
P35C-DS3R

On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:39:02 -0700, Henry Morgan
wrote:

Sorry to not agree, but on my version of Windows Vista 32-bit it shows 4.0GB.
I went to Control Panel, System and Maintenance, and under System, I clicked
on View amount of RAM and processor speed and it shows:
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz 2.39 GHz
Memory (RAM): 4.0 GB
System type: 32-bit Operating System

I don't know if it can use all 4.0GB, but it is displaying it correctly.
Are you looking at the amount of memory somewhere else?

He was blowing it out of his ass as he often does. The "3Gigs or
about" is what is actually usable by the programs etc.

You're fine.

"Peter Foldes" wrote:

Your Bios reports 4 Gig but your system will report only 3Gigs or about in Vista


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I very much doubt that you have the full 4 gigs of ram showing as workable on Vista 32 bit.

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"Henry Morgan" wrote in message ...
Sorry to not agree, but on my version of Windows Vista 32-bit it shows 4.0GB.
I went to Control Panel, System and Maintenance, and under System, I clicked
on View amount of RAM and processor speed and it shows:
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz 2.39 GHz
Memory (RAM): 4.0 GB
System type: 32-bit Operating System

I don't know if it can use all 4.0GB, but it is displaying it correctly.
Are you looking at the amount of memory somewhere else?

"Peter Foldes" wrote:

Your Bios reports 4 Gig but your system will report only 3Gigs or about in Vista

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"Henry Morgan" Henry wrote in message ...
I encountered the exact same problem with Windows Vista 32-bit. My PC has
worked fine with 2GB of memory. I figured upgrading would be simple and
purchase a new set of Corsair Dominator 2GB PC2-8500 C5 1066MHz modules (2 x
1GB DDR2). This pair is EXACTLY the same type as was originally in the PC.
With 4GB installed, I would get the Blue Screen of death when attempting to
boot. Even when trying to boot in safe mode. I tried some of the things
suggested here and then decided to see if my motherboard had an updated BIOS
available. Sure enough, my BIOS was a year old and one of the new versions
reads "Improve Memory compatibility". I didn't think upgrading the BIOS
would fix the problem since the original and new memory was working fine when
installed separately. But to my surprise, it fixed the problem. I am now
running Windows Vista 32-bit with 4GB memory installed and it reports that
the system has 4.0 GB. Whether is uses all 4 GB, I don't care. I just
wanted it to work. So the first thing I would check if you get this problem
is your BIOS.

"Violent Ken" wrote:


help me vista gurus.

after using this PC about 1 month i finally got my RMA replacement of
2gbRAM

everything is 100% stable with 2GB, but when i add the 2nd 2gb vista
will not boot.

something about sptd.exe failed or corrupt. however BOTH 2gb kits boot
vista and work perfectly alone, but all 4gb in at once will not boot

any ideas? i know the memory is fine

thanks in advance as i cannot figure this out


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Ultimate x64\Q6600 G0\8800GTS\4Gb Crucial 1066 Ballistix\Gigabyte
P35C-DS3R

Henry

Here is a better explanation as copied from Ken Blake MS MVP


You can't use the entire 4GB of address space. Even though you
have a 4GB address space, you can only use *around* 3.1GB of RAM.
That's because some of that space is used by hardware and is not
available to the operating system and applications. The amount you can
use varies, depending on what hardware you have installed, but can
range from as little as 2GB to as much as 3.5GB. It's usually around
3.1GB.

Note that the hardware is using the address *space*, not the actual
RAM itself. The rest of the RAM goes unused because there is no
address space to map it too.


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"Henry Morgan" wrote in message ...
Sorry to not agree, but on my version of Windows Vista 32-bit it shows 4.0GB.
I went to Control Panel, System and Maintenance, and under System, I clicked
on View amount of RAM and processor speed and it shows:
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz 2.39 GHz
Memory (RAM): 4.0 GB
System type: 32-bit Operating System

I don't know if it can use all 4.0GB, but it is displaying it correctly.
Are you looking at the amount of memory somewhere else?

"Peter Foldes" wrote:

Your Bios reports 4 Gig but your system will report only 3Gigs or about in Vista

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"Henry Morgan" Henry wrote in message ...
I encountered the exact same problem with Windows Vista 32-bit. My PC has
worked fine with 2GB of memory. I figured upgrading would be simple and
purchase a new set of Corsair Dominator 2GB PC2-8500 C5 1066MHz modules (2 x
1GB DDR2). This pair is EXACTLY the same type as was originally in the PC.
With 4GB installed, I would get the Blue Screen of death when attempting to
boot. Even when trying to boot in safe mode. I tried some of the things
suggested here and then decided to see if my motherboard had an updated BIOS
available. Sure enough, my BIOS was a year old and one of the new versions
reads "Improve Memory compatibility". I didn't think upgrading the BIOS
would fix the problem since the original and new memory was working fine when
installed separately. But to my surprise, it fixed the problem. I am now
running Windows Vista 32-bit with 4GB memory installed and it reports that
the system has 4.0 GB. Whether is uses all 4 GB, I don't care. I just
wanted it to work. So the first thing I would check if you get this problem
is your BIOS.

"Violent Ken" wrote:


help me vista gurus.

after using this PC about 1 month i finally got my RMA replacement of
2gbRAM

everything is 100% stable with 2GB, but when i add the 2nd 2gb vista
will not boot.

something about sptd.exe failed or corrupt. however BOTH 2gb kits boot
vista and work perfectly alone, but all 4gb in at once will not boot

any ideas? i know the memory is fine

thanks in advance as i cannot figure this out


--
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Ultimate x64\Q6600 G0\8800GTS\4Gb Crucial 1066 Ballistix\Gigabyte
P35C-DS3R

Vista SP1 changed the listing from the amount available (about 3.2 for use)
to the amount installed 4GB,
The following KB article explains why is is not all available for use.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605/en-us


"Peter Foldes" wrote in message
...
I very much doubt that you have the full 4 gigs of ram showing as workable
on Vista 32 bit.

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"Henry Morgan" wrote in message
...
Sorry to not agree, but on my version of Windows Vista 32-bit it shows
4.0GB.
I went to Control Panel, System and Maintenance, and under System, I
clicked
on View amount of RAM and processor speed and it shows:
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz 2.39 GHz
Memory (RAM): 4.0 GB
System type: 32-bit Operating System

I don't know if it can use all 4.0GB, but it is displaying it correctly.
Are you looking at the amount of memory somewhere else?

"Peter Foldes" wrote:

Your Bios reports 4 Gig but your system will report only 3Gigs or about
in Vista

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"Henry Morgan" Henry wrote in message
...
I encountered the exact same problem with Windows Vista 32-bit. My PC
has
worked fine with 2GB of memory. I figured upgrading would be simple
and
purchase a new set of Corsair Dominator 2GB PC2-8500 C5 1066MHz modules
(2 x
1GB DDR2). This pair is EXACTLY the same type as was originally in the
PC.
With 4GB installed, I would get the Blue Screen of death when
attempting to
boot. Even when trying to boot in safe mode. I tried some of the
things
suggested here and then decided to see if my motherboard had an updated
BIOS
available. Sure enough, my BIOS was a year old and one of the new
versions
reads "Improve Memory compatibility". I didn't think upgrading the
BIOS
would fix the problem since the original and new memory was working
fine when
installed separately. But to my surprise, it fixed the problem. I am
now
running Windows Vista 32-bit with 4GB memory installed and it reports
that
the system has 4.0 GB. Whether is uses all 4 GB, I don't care. I just
wanted it to work. So the first thing I would check if you get this
problem
is your BIOS.

"Violent Ken" wrote:


help me vista gurus.

after using this PC about 1 month i finally got my RMA replacement of
2gbRAM

everything is 100% stable with 2GB, but when i add the 2nd 2gb vista
will not boot.

something about sptd.exe failed or corrupt. however BOTH 2gb kits boot
vista and work perfectly alone, but all 4gb in at once will not boot

any ideas? i know the memory is fine

thanks in advance as i cannot figure this out


--
Violent Ken

Ultimate x64\Q6600 G0\8800GTS\4Gb Crucial 1066 Ballistix\Gigabyte
P35C-DS3R