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Old December 1st 07, 05:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Pierre Martin[_2_]
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Posts: 15
Default Sharing between Vista Laptop and XP Desktop/Printer

I have similar problem as Linda830 but a bit more basic.
I have a printer on a wireless XPHome Desktop and I want to print from a
Vista Home Basic Laptop.Configuration is as follows;
XPHome desktop wired to Linksys Wireless router
Wireless XPHome desktop with Canon ip4200 printer
Wireless Vista Home Basic laptop

I can see the wireless desktop and printer from the wired desktop
I want to but can't see the wireless desktop and printer from the Vista laptop

All 3 comps have same workgroup name
All 3 comps have internet access via the network

On the Vista laptop all I can see is the private network name and internet

At one point during my setup of the new laptop, I had access to the wireless
desktop and printer and printed out a page. For some reason I can no longer
duplicate the setup.

Right now the ip4200 printer is listed in the laptop's printers from when it
worked but I can no longer use it.
This problem is baffling me. I've been trying everything I can get my hands
on. It's a preloaded laptop so I can't ask Microsoft about it.

Any help would be much appreciated.
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Old December 1st 07, 05:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Robert L. \(MS-MVP\)
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Default Sharing between Vista Laptop and XP Desktop/Printer

Can you ping wireless desktop by IP?

--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com


"Pierre Martin" wrote in message
...
I have similar problem as Linda830 but a bit more basic.
I have a printer on a wireless XPHome Desktop and I want to print from a
Vista Home Basic Laptop.Configuration is as follows;
XPHome desktop wired to Linksys Wireless router
Wireless XPHome desktop with Canon ip4200 printer
Wireless Vista Home Basic laptop

I can see the wireless desktop and printer from the wired desktop
I want to but can't see the wireless desktop and printer from the Vista
laptop

All 3 comps have same workgroup name
All 3 comps have internet access via the network

On the Vista laptop all I can see is the private network name and internet

At one point during my setup of the new laptop, I had access to the
wireless
desktop and printer and printed out a page. For some reason I can no
longer
duplicate the setup.

Right now the ip4200 printer is listed in the laptop's printers from when
it
worked but I can no longer use it.
This problem is baffling me. I've been trying everything I can get my
hands
on. It's a preloaded laptop so I can't ask Microsoft about it.

Any help would be much appreciated.


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Old December 1st 07, 06:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Pierre Martin[_2_]
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Posts: 15
Default Sharing between Vista Laptop and XP Desktop/Printer

Don't know how to do that from Vista laptop. Vista is totally new to me.

"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:

Can you ping wireless desktop by IP?

--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com


"Pierre Martin" wrote in message
...
I have similar problem as Linda830 but a bit more basic.
I have a printer on a wireless XPHome Desktop and I want to print from a
Vista Home Basic Laptop.Configuration is as follows;
XPHome desktop wired to Linksys Wireless router
Wireless XPHome desktop with Canon ip4200 printer
Wireless Vista Home Basic laptop

I can see the wireless desktop and printer from the wired desktop
I want to but can't see the wireless desktop and printer from the Vista
laptop

All 3 comps have same workgroup name
All 3 comps have internet access via the network

On the Vista laptop all I can see is the private network name and internet

At one point during my setup of the new laptop, I had access to the
wireless
desktop and printer and printed out a page. For some reason I can no
longer
duplicate the setup.

Right now the ip4200 printer is listed in the laptop's printers from when
it
worked but I can no longer use it.
This problem is baffling me. I've been trying everything I can get my
hands
on. It's a preloaded laptop so I can't ask Microsoft about it.

Any help would be much appreciated.


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Old December 1st 07, 06:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Bjarne Hansen /freya[_2_]
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Posts: 5
Default Sharing between Vista Laptop and XP Desktop/Printer

Hi Pierre,

From my own efforts in getting my printer (hosted on an XP box) shared to a
Vista laptop, I learned two key ingredients seemed to be needed for it to
work:
First, networking & sharing needed to function between the computers.
Second, Vista needed to have the proper driver loaded for the printer.

It was this second issue that I (and I believe Linda830) were struggling
with (see her thread started 29 Dec for details). In your case, since you did
have the printing working at one time and you still have the ip4200 icon
visible on the laptop, it sounds to me like the problem lies with getting
Vista to see the two XP machines.

You've said the computers have the same Workgroup name. Here's some other
things to check on the Vista machine:
-The Network Location type is "Private" (you implied this is already the
case I think)
-In the Sharing And Discovery Section - File Sharing is ON, Public Folder
Sharing is ON. You could also try to see if you can turn ON Printer Sharing
(I couldn't, since there was no local printer attached to the Vista box, but
in your case perhaps the fact that you did at one time have a printer
recognized might mean Vista will let you turn it ON)
-Windows Firewall (or other firewall) is set to allow sharing. You may,
while setting up, disconnect yourself from the internet and then turn off all
firewalls, just to simplify things. Once you get printing working, then turn
the firewalls on again.
-When setting up I logged in as a user with the same name and with Admin
privileges on both computers, but I have since noticed that this is not
needed anymore to print. Perhaps it never was...

There is a troubleshooting guide on Microsoft's website that might be
helpful - go to Vista's Solution Center and under the heading Home
Networking, click on "Troubleshooting network and Internet connection
problems". On the next page, select "Troubleshoot problems with computers not
appearing on the network map", then "A computer or device does not appear on
the network map." The discussion about the Link Layer Topology Discovery
(LLTD) may be relevant to you - there is a download for XP computers that
installs LLTD to allow Vista computers to see the XP machine. I installed
that.

Other things I tried:
Ensure NetBIOS is enabled for the network cards on all the machines. This
protocol seems to be used in locating computers on the local network. Until I
enabled it, I couldn't see the shared computers in Windows Explorer's Network
Neighborhood, but I could reach them with a 'ping 192.168.1.100' at the
command prompt (replace 192.168.1.100 with whatever IP address is assigned to
the remote computer).

Good luck,
Bjarne

"Pierre Martin" wrote:

I have similar problem as Linda830 but a bit more basic.
I have a printer on a wireless XPHome Desktop and I want to print from a
Vista Home Basic Laptop.Configuration is as follows;
XPHome desktop wired to Linksys Wireless router
Wireless XPHome desktop with Canon ip4200 printer
Wireless Vista Home Basic laptop

I can see the wireless desktop and printer from the wired desktop
I want to but can't see the wireless desktop and printer from the Vista laptop

All 3 comps have same workgroup name
All 3 comps have internet access via the network

On the Vista laptop all I can see is the private network name and internet

At one point during my setup of the new laptop, I had access to the wireless
desktop and printer and printed out a page. For some reason I can no longer
duplicate the setup.

Right now the ip4200 printer is listed in the laptop's printers from when it
worked but I can no longer use it.
This problem is baffling me. I've been trying everything I can get my hands
on. It's a preloaded laptop so I can't ask Microsoft about it.

Any help would be much appreciated.

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Old December 1st 07, 06:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Pierre Martin[_2_]
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Posts: 15
Default Sharing between Vista Laptop and XP Desktop/Printer

Just figured it out on the Vista Laptop.
Pinged the desktop by typing Ping 192.168.1.100 which is the IP address I
got off the router and I got 4 sent 4 answered so I guess I can ping the
desktop.

"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:

Can you ping wireless desktop by IP?

--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com


"Pierre Martin" wrote in message
...
I have similar problem as Linda830 but a bit more basic.
I have a printer on a wireless XPHome Desktop and I want to print from a
Vista Home Basic Laptop.Configuration is as follows;
XPHome desktop wired to Linksys Wireless router
Wireless XPHome desktop with Canon ip4200 printer
Wireless Vista Home Basic laptop

I can see the wireless desktop and printer from the wired desktop
I want to but can't see the wireless desktop and printer from the Vista
laptop

All 3 comps have same workgroup name
All 3 comps have internet access via the network

On the Vista laptop all I can see is the private network name and internet

At one point during my setup of the new laptop, I had access to the
wireless
desktop and printer and printed out a page. For some reason I can no
longer
duplicate the setup.

Right now the ip4200 printer is listed in the laptop's printers from when
it
worked but I can no longer use it.
This problem is baffling me. I've been trying everything I can get my
hands
on. It's a preloaded laptop so I can't ask Microsoft about it.

Any help would be much appreciated.


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Old December 1st 07, 07:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Pierre Martin[_2_]
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Posts: 15
Default Sharing between Vista Laptop and XP Desktop/Printer

LLTD is activated
Printer and file sharing is on for the desktop
Can't find Netbios as an option on the wireless adaptors
I think the problem is with the Vista laptop since I can see and print to
the wireless desktop from the wired desktop running XP.
I can also ping the wireless desktop/printer from the laptop

"Bjarne Hansen /freya" wrote:

Hi Pierre,

From my own efforts in getting my printer (hosted on an XP box) shared to a
Vista laptop, I learned two key ingredients seemed to be needed for it to
work:
First, networking & sharing needed to function between the computers.
Second, Vista needed to have the proper driver loaded for the printer.

It was this second issue that I (and I believe Linda830) were struggling
with (see her thread started 29 Dec for details). In your case, since you did
have the printing working at one time and you still have the ip4200 icon
visible on the laptop, it sounds to me like the problem lies with getting
Vista to see the two XP machines.

You've said the computers have the same Workgroup name. Here's some other
things to check on the Vista machine:
-The Network Location type is "Private" (you implied this is already the
case I think)
-In the Sharing And Discovery Section - File Sharing is ON, Public Folder
Sharing is ON. You could also try to see if you can turn ON Printer Sharing
(I couldn't, since there was no local printer attached to the Vista box, but
in your case perhaps the fact that you did at one time have a printer
recognized might mean Vista will let you turn it ON)
-Windows Firewall (or other firewall) is set to allow sharing. You may,
while setting up, disconnect yourself from the internet and then turn off all
firewalls, just to simplify things. Once you get printing working, then turn
the firewalls on again.
-When setting up I logged in as a user with the same name and with Admin
privileges on both computers, but I have since noticed that this is not
needed anymore to print. Perhaps it never was...

There is a troubleshooting guide on Microsoft's website that might be
helpful - go to Vista's Solution Center and under the heading Home
Networking, click on "Troubleshooting network and Internet connection
problems". On the next page, select "Troubleshoot problems with computers not
appearing on the network map", then "A computer or device does not appear on
the network map." The discussion about the Link Layer Topology Discovery
(LLTD) may be relevant to you - there is a download for XP computers that
installs LLTD to allow Vista computers to see the XP machine. I installed
that.

Other things I tried:
Ensure NetBIOS is enabled for the network cards on all the machines. This
protocol seems to be used in locating computers on the local network. Until I
enabled it, I couldn't see the shared computers in Windows Explorer's Network
Neighborhood, but I could reach them with a 'ping 192.168.1.100' at the
command prompt (replace 192.168.1.100 with whatever IP address is assigned to
the remote computer).

Good luck,
Bjarne

"Pierre Martin" wrote:

I have similar problem as Linda830 but a bit more basic.
I have a printer on a wireless XPHome Desktop and I want to print from a
Vista Home Basic Laptop.Configuration is as follows;
XPHome desktop wired to Linksys Wireless router
Wireless XPHome desktop with Canon ip4200 printer
Wireless Vista Home Basic laptop

I can see the wireless desktop and printer from the wired desktop
I want to but can't see the wireless desktop and printer from the Vista laptop

All 3 comps have same workgroup name
All 3 comps have internet access via the network

On the Vista laptop all I can see is the private network name and internet

At one point during my setup of the new laptop, I had access to the wireless
desktop and printer and printed out a page. For some reason I can no longer
duplicate the setup.

Right now the ip4200 printer is listed in the laptop's printers from when it
worked but I can no longer use it.
This problem is baffling me. I've been trying everything I can get my hands
on. It's a preloaded laptop so I can't ask Microsoft about it.

Any help would be much appreciated.

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Old December 1st 07, 09:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Robert L. \(MS-MVP\)
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Posts: 481
Default Sharing between Vista Laptop and XP Desktop/Printer

Can you ping it by name? if not, this is name resolution issue. Make sure
NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled. Or check this link.

Can't enable NetBIOS over TCP/IPI even tried disabling NetBIOS over TCP/IP,
restarting the PC, ... I am running windows Vista x64 Ultimate, the problem
I have is that when I ...
http://www.chicagotech.net/netforums...pic.php?t=1170


--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com


"Pierre Martin" wrote in message
...
Just figured it out on the Vista Laptop.
Pinged the desktop by typing Ping 192.168.1.100 which is the IP address I
got off the router and I got 4 sent 4 answered so I guess I can ping the
desktop.

"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:

Can you ping wireless desktop by IP?

--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com


"Pierre Martin" wrote in message
...
I have similar problem as Linda830 but a bit more basic.
I have a printer on a wireless XPHome Desktop and I want to print from
a
Vista Home Basic Laptop.Configuration is as follows;
XPHome desktop wired to Linksys Wireless router
Wireless XPHome desktop with Canon ip4200 printer
Wireless Vista Home Basic laptop

I can see the wireless desktop and printer from the wired desktop
I want to but can't see the wireless desktop and printer from the Vista
laptop

All 3 comps have same workgroup name
All 3 comps have internet access via the network

On the Vista laptop all I can see is the private network name and
internet

At one point during my setup of the new laptop, I had access to the
wireless
desktop and printer and printed out a page. For some reason I can no
longer
duplicate the setup.

Right now the ip4200 printer is listed in the laptop's printers from
when
it
worked but I can no longer use it.
This problem is baffling me. I've been trying everything I can get my
hands
on. It's a preloaded laptop so I can't ask Microsoft about it.

Any help would be much appreciated.



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Old December 1st 07, 10:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Pierre Martin[_2_]
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Posts: 15
Default Sharing between Vista Laptop and XP Desktop/Printer

I can ping the XP desktop from the Vista laptop but not vice-versa. Got the
IP addresses from the DHCP clients table on the router. Laptop is
192.168.1.104 and desktop is 192.168.1.100
Can't find where to enable NetBIOS

"Pierre Martin" wrote:

LLTD is activated
Printer and file sharing is on for the desktop
Can't find Netbios as an option on the wireless adaptors
I think the problem is with the Vista laptop since I can see and print to
the wireless desktop from the wired desktop running XP.
I can also ping the wireless desktop/printer from the laptop

"Bjarne Hansen /freya" wrote:

Hi Pierre,

From my own efforts in getting my printer (hosted on an XP box) shared to a
Vista laptop, I learned two key ingredients seemed to be needed for it to
work:
First, networking & sharing needed to function between the computers.
Second, Vista needed to have the proper driver loaded for the printer.

It was this second issue that I (and I believe Linda830) were struggling
with (see her thread started 29 Dec for details). In your case, since you did
have the printing working at one time and you still have the ip4200 icon
visible on the laptop, it sounds to me like the problem lies with getting
Vista to see the two XP machines.

You've said the computers have the same Workgroup name. Here's some other
things to check on the Vista machine:
-The Network Location type is "Private" (you implied this is already the
case I think)
-In the Sharing And Discovery Section - File Sharing is ON, Public Folder
Sharing is ON. You could also try to see if you can turn ON Printer Sharing
(I couldn't, since there was no local printer attached to the Vista box, but
in your case perhaps the fact that you did at one time have a printer
recognized might mean Vista will let you turn it ON)
-Windows Firewall (or other firewall) is set to allow sharing. You may,
while setting up, disconnect yourself from the internet and then turn off all
firewalls, just to simplify things. Once you get printing working, then turn
the firewalls on again.
-When setting up I logged in as a user with the same name and with Admin
privileges on both computers, but I have since noticed that this is not
needed anymore to print. Perhaps it never was...

There is a troubleshooting guide on Microsoft's website that might be
helpful - go to Vista's Solution Center and under the heading Home
Networking, click on "Troubleshooting network and Internet connection
problems". On the next page, select "Troubleshoot problems with computers not
appearing on the network map", then "A computer or device does not appear on
the network map." The discussion about the Link Layer Topology Discovery
(LLTD) may be relevant to you - there is a download for XP computers that
installs LLTD to allow Vista computers to see the XP machine. I installed
that.

Other things I tried:
Ensure NetBIOS is enabled for the network cards on all the machines. This
protocol seems to be used in locating computers on the local network. Until I
enabled it, I couldn't see the shared computers in Windows Explorer's Network
Neighborhood, but I could reach them with a 'ping 192.168.1.100' at the
command prompt (replace 192.168.1.100 with whatever IP address is assigned to
the remote computer).

Good luck,
Bjarne

"Pierre Martin" wrote:

I have similar problem as Linda830 but a bit more basic.
I have a printer on a wireless XPHome Desktop and I want to print from a
Vista Home Basic Laptop.Configuration is as follows;
XPHome desktop wired to Linksys Wireless router
Wireless XPHome desktop with Canon ip4200 printer
Wireless Vista Home Basic laptop

I can see the wireless desktop and printer from the wired desktop
I want to but can't see the wireless desktop and printer from the Vista laptop

All 3 comps have same workgroup name
All 3 comps have internet access via the network

On the Vista laptop all I can see is the private network name and internet

At one point during my setup of the new laptop, I had access to the wireless
desktop and printer and printed out a page. For some reason I can no longer
duplicate the setup.

Right now the ip4200 printer is listed in the laptop's printers from when it
worked but I can no longer use it.
This problem is baffling me. I've been trying everything I can get my hands
on. It's a preloaded laptop so I can't ask Microsoft about it.

Any help would be much appreciated.

  #9 (permalink)  
Old December 2nd 07, 01:46 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Bjarne Hansen /freya[_2_]
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Posts: 5
Default Sharing between Vista Laptop and XP Desktop/Printer

On my Vista box, I got to the NetBIOS by:
Control Panel - Network and Sharing Center
Click on 'Manage Network Connections. You should see a list of ntwk
adapter(s).
Right-click on the ntwk adapter you are using:select Properties.
In the Networking tab, highlight the Internet Protocol Version 4(TCP/IPv4)
entry.
Click on the Properties button.
In the General tab, click on the Advanced button.
In the WINS tab, there should be several radio buttons for NetBIOS settings.
Choose the Enable NetBIOS option, and OK your way back out of the dialog
boxes...

Hope this helps,
Bjarne

"Pierre Martin" wrote:

I can ping the XP desktop from the Vista laptop but not vice-versa. Got the
IP addresses from the DHCP clients table on the router. Laptop is
192.168.1.104 and desktop is 192.168.1.100
Can't find where to enable NetBIOS

"Pierre Martin" wrote:

LLTD is activated
Printer and file sharing is on for the desktop
Can't find Netbios as an option on the wireless adaptors
I think the problem is with the Vista laptop since I can see and print to
the wireless desktop from the wired desktop running XP.
I can also ping the wireless desktop/printer from the laptop

"Bjarne Hansen /freya" wrote:

Hi Pierre,

From my own efforts in getting my printer (hosted on an XP box) shared to a
Vista laptop, I learned two key ingredients seemed to be needed for it to
work:
First, networking & sharing needed to function between the computers.
Second, Vista needed to have the proper driver loaded for the printer.

It was this second issue that I (and I believe Linda830) were struggling
with (see her thread started 29 Dec for details). In your case, since you did
have the printing working at one time and you still have the ip4200 icon
visible on the laptop, it sounds to me like the problem lies with getting
Vista to see the two XP machines.

You've said the computers have the same Workgroup name. Here's some other
things to check on the Vista machine:
-The Network Location type is "Private" (you implied this is already the
case I think)
-In the Sharing And Discovery Section - File Sharing is ON, Public Folder
Sharing is ON. You could also try to see if you can turn ON Printer Sharing
(I couldn't, since there was no local printer attached to the Vista box, but
in your case perhaps the fact that you did at one time have a printer
recognized might mean Vista will let you turn it ON)
-Windows Firewall (or other firewall) is set to allow sharing. You may,
while setting up, disconnect yourself from the internet and then turn off all
firewalls, just to simplify things. Once you get printing working, then turn
the firewalls on again.
-When setting up I logged in as a user with the same name and with Admin
privileges on both computers, but I have since noticed that this is not
needed anymore to print. Perhaps it never was...

There is a troubleshooting guide on Microsoft's website that might be
helpful - go to Vista's Solution Center and under the heading Home
Networking, click on "Troubleshooting network and Internet connection
problems". On the next page, select "Troubleshoot problems with computers not
appearing on the network map", then "A computer or device does not appear on
the network map." The discussion about the Link Layer Topology Discovery
(LLTD) may be relevant to you - there is a download for XP computers that
installs LLTD to allow Vista computers to see the XP machine. I installed
that.

Other things I tried:
Ensure NetBIOS is enabled for the network cards on all the machines. This
protocol seems to be used in locating computers on the local network. Until I
enabled it, I couldn't see the shared computers in Windows Explorer's Network
Neighborhood, but I could reach them with a 'ping 192.168.1.100' at the
command prompt (replace 192.168.1.100 with whatever IP address is assigned to
the remote computer).

Good luck,
Bjarne

"Pierre Martin" wrote:

I have similar problem as Linda830 but a bit more basic.
I have a printer on a wireless XPHome Desktop and I want to print from a
Vista Home Basic Laptop.Configuration is as follows;
XPHome desktop wired to Linksys Wireless router
Wireless XPHome desktop with Canon ip4200 printer
Wireless Vista Home Basic laptop

I can see the wireless desktop and printer from the wired desktop
I want to but can't see the wireless desktop and printer from the Vista laptop

All 3 comps have same workgroup name
All 3 comps have internet access via the network

On the Vista laptop all I can see is the private network name and internet

At one point during my setup of the new laptop, I had access to the wireless
desktop and printer and printed out a page. For some reason I can no longer
duplicate the setup.

Right now the ip4200 printer is listed in the laptop's printers from when it
worked but I can no longer use it.
This problem is baffling me. I've been trying everything I can get my hands
on. It's a preloaded laptop so I can't ask Microsoft about it.

Any help would be much appreciated.

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Old December 2nd 07, 09:01 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Mick Murphy
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Default Sharing between Vista Laptop and XP Desktop/Printer

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx

Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.

1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is
the SAME.

In Vista Network and Sharing:

Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers)

Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)

File Sharing: ON

Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared
Docs)

Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and
passwords on ALL computers in your Network) If you have it ON, you will be
asked for a username and password when you try to access a Vista computer
from an XP computer.

Also, run the XP’s Home Network File and Printer sharing Wizard


"Pierre Martin" wrote:

LLTD is activated
Printer and file sharing is on for the desktop
Can't find Netbios as an option on the wireless adaptors
I think the problem is with the Vista laptop since I can see and print to
the wireless desktop from the wired desktop running XP.
I can also ping the wireless desktop/printer from the laptop

"Bjarne Hansen /freya" wrote:

Hi Pierre,

From my own efforts in getting my printer (hosted on an XP box) shared to a
Vista laptop, I learned two key ingredients seemed to be needed for it to
work:
First, networking & sharing needed to function between the computers.
Second, Vista needed to have the proper driver loaded for the printer.

It was this second issue that I (and I believe Linda830) were struggling
with (see her thread started 29 Dec for details). In your case, since you did
have the printing working at one time and you still have the ip4200 icon
visible on the laptop, it sounds to me like the problem lies with getting
Vista to see the two XP machines.

You've said the computers have the same Workgroup name. Here's some other
things to check on the Vista machine:
-The Network Location type is "Private" (you implied this is already the
case I think)
-In the Sharing And Discovery Section - File Sharing is ON, Public Folder
Sharing is ON. You could also try to see if you can turn ON Printer Sharing
(I couldn't, since there was no local printer attached to the Vista box, but
in your case perhaps the fact that you did at one time have a printer
recognized might mean Vista will let you turn it ON)
-Windows Firewall (or other firewall) is set to allow sharing. You may,
while setting up, disconnect yourself from the internet and then turn off all
firewalls, just to simplify things. Once you get printing working, then turn
the firewalls on again.
-When setting up I logged in as a user with the same name and with Admin
privileges on both computers, but I have since noticed that this is not
needed anymore to print. Perhaps it never was...

There is a troubleshooting guide on Microsoft's website that might be
helpful - go to Vista's Solution Center and under the heading Home
Networking, click on "Troubleshooting network and Internet connection
problems". On the next page, select "Troubleshoot problems with computers not
appearing on the network map", then "A computer or device does not appear on
the network map." The discussion about the Link Layer Topology Discovery
(LLTD) may be relevant to you - there is a download for XP computers that
installs LLTD to allow Vista computers to see the XP machine. I installed
that.

Other things I tried:
Ensure NetBIOS is enabled for the network cards on all the machines. This
protocol seems to be used in locating computers on the local network. Until I
enabled it, I couldn't see the shared computers in Windows Explorer's Network
Neighborhood, but I could reach them with a 'ping 192.168.1.100' at the
command prompt (replace 192.168.1.100 with whatever IP address is assigned to
the remote computer).

Good luck,
Bjarne

"Pierre Martin" wrote:

I have similar problem as Linda830 but a bit more basic.
I have a printer on a wireless XPHome Desktop and I want to print from a
Vista Home Basic Laptop.Configuration is as follows;
XPHome desktop wired to Linksys Wireless router
Wireless XPHome desktop with Canon ip4200 printer
Wireless Vista Home Basic laptop

I can see the wireless desktop and printer from the wired desktop
I want to but can't see the wireless desktop and printer from the Vista laptop

All 3 comps have same workgroup name
All 3 comps have internet access via the network

On the Vista laptop all I can see is the private network name and internet

At one point during my setup of the new laptop, I had access to the wireless
desktop and printer and printed out a page. For some reason I can no longer
duplicate the setup.

Right now the ip4200 printer is listed in the laptop's printers from when it
worked but I can no longer use it.
This problem is baffling me. I've been trying everything I can get my hands
on. It's a preloaded laptop so I can't ask Microsoft about it.

Any help would be much appreciated.

 




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