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Old December 2nd 07, 11:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
steveread
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Default network no, internet yes

symptoms:

two vista home premium pcs
have internet connectivity on both
both show in both network maps
can't select pc1 from pc2 network map, and vice versa
discovery, sharing, public folder sharing, printer sharing set to on in both
pcs
pwd protected and media set to off both pcs
ip range added to zone alarm
can't ping either pc from the other
both pcs in same workgroup
network set to private
sharing set to "everyone" for shared drives.
about to slit wrists

can anyone help?

thanks

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Old December 3rd 07, 12:20 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Robert L. \(MS-MVP\)
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Default network no, internet yes

If you enable sharing you should be able to ping each by IP. If not, I would
double check the zone alarm and other security software. Or turn off zone
alarm for a test.

--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com


"steveread" wrote in message
...
symptoms:

two vista home premium pcs
have internet connectivity on both
both show in both network maps
can't select pc1 from pc2 network map, and vice versa
discovery, sharing, public folder sharing, printer sharing set to on in
both
pcs
pwd protected and media set to off both pcs
ip range added to zone alarm
can't ping either pc from the other
both pcs in same workgroup
network set to private
sharing set to "everyone" for shared drives.
about to slit wrists

can anyone help?

thanks


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Old December 3rd 07, 12:50 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
em_CT
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Posts: 20
Default network no, internet yes

I have the same problem, internet great, local net, no. I disabled all
security programs, no luck getting out on to the local net. For that matter
I can't even see my other computers.

On my other comp's I can see this one, but can't get in. My laptop has Vista
Home Pre and I have no problems accessing the third one with XP or my net
drive.

I am just about to give up and go back to XP.







"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote in message
...
If you enable sharing you should be able to ping each by IP. If not, I
would double check the zone alarm and other security software. Or turn off
zone alarm for a test.

--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com


"steveread" wrote in message
...
symptoms:

two vista home premium pcs
have internet connectivity on both
both show in both network maps
can't select pc1 from pc2 network map, and vice versa
discovery, sharing, public folder sharing, printer sharing set to on in
both
pcs
pwd protected and media set to off both pcs
ip range added to zone alarm
can't ping either pc from the other
both pcs in same workgroup
network set to private
sharing set to "everyone" for shared drives.
about to slit wrists

can anyone help?

thanks



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Old December 3rd 07, 03:23 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
steveread
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Default network no, internet yes

I disabled zone alarm for a test and that didn't work.

"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:

If you enable sharing you should be able to ping each by IP. If not, I would
double check the zone alarm and other security software. Or turn off zone
alarm for a test.

--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com


"steveread" wrote in message
...
symptoms:

two vista home premium pcs
have internet connectivity on both
both show in both network maps
can't select pc1 from pc2 network map, and vice versa
discovery, sharing, public folder sharing, printer sharing set to on in
both
pcs
pwd protected and media set to off both pcs
ip range added to zone alarm
can't ping either pc from the other
both pcs in same workgroup
network set to private
sharing set to "everyone" for shared drives.
about to slit wrists

can anyone help?

thanks


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Old December 3rd 07, 05:22 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Mick Murphy
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Default network no, internet yes

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx

Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.

1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is
the SAME.

In Vista Network and Sharing:

Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers)

Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)

File Sharing: ON

Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared
Docs)

Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and
passwords on ALL computers in your Network) If you have it ON, you will be
asked for a username and password when you try to access a Vista computer
from an XP computer.

Also, run the XP’s Home Network File and Printer sharing Wizard

Steve, what I have above worked for me between XP Pro And vista Home Premium
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~
The only diff I have is I don't have Printer Sharing turned ON, as that is
only for the one computer with more then 1 user account
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"steveread" wrote:

I disabled zone alarm for a test and that didn't work.

"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:

If you enable sharing you should be able to ping each by IP. If not, I would
double check the zone alarm and other security software. Or turn off zone
alarm for a test.

--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com


"steveread" wrote in message
...
symptoms:

two vista home premium pcs
have internet connectivity on both
both show in both network maps
can't select pc1 from pc2 network map, and vice versa
discovery, sharing, public folder sharing, printer sharing set to on in
both
pcs
pwd protected and media set to off both pcs
ip range added to zone alarm
can't ping either pc from the other
both pcs in same workgroup
network set to private
sharing set to "everyone" for shared drives.
about to slit wrists

can anyone help?

thanks


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Old December 3rd 07, 06:23 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Wessel Troost
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Posts: 28
Default network no, internet yes

ip range added to zone alarm

Try uninstalling any virus scanner & personal firewall you have
installed?
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Old December 3rd 07, 12:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
steveread
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Posts: 4
Default network no, internet yes

All of those are true.

"Mick Murphy" wrote:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx

Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.

1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is
the SAME.

In Vista Network and Sharing:

Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers)

Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)

File Sharing: ON

Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared
Docs)

Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and
passwords on ALL computers in your Network) If you have it ON, you will be
asked for a username and password when you try to access a Vista computer
from an XP computer.

Also, run the XP’s Home Network File and Printer sharing Wizard

Steve, what I have above worked for me between XP Pro And vista Home Premium
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~
The only diff I have is I don't have Printer Sharing turned ON, as that is
only for the one computer with more then 1 user account
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"steveread" wrote:

I disabled zone alarm for a test and that didn't work.

"Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:

If you enable sharing you should be able to ping each by IP. If not, I would
double check the zone alarm and other security software. Or turn off zone
alarm for a test.

--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com


"steveread" wrote in message
...
symptoms:

two vista home premium pcs
have internet connectivity on both
both show in both network maps
can't select pc1 from pc2 network map, and vice versa
discovery, sharing, public folder sharing, printer sharing set to on in
both
pcs
pwd protected and media set to off both pcs
ip range added to zone alarm
can't ping either pc from the other
both pcs in same workgroup
network set to private
sharing set to "everyone" for shared drives.
about to slit wrists

can anyone help?

thanks


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Old December 3rd 07, 07:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
steveread
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Posts: 4
Default network no, internet yes

There is a "trusted sites" setting in Norton Internet Security (I hadn't used
it before). Adding my computers there fixed it. The default is to reject
everyone. It seems to me that a better default would be to reject everyone
except 192.168.n.n, but what do I know; I'm just a user. Details he

http://tinyurl.com/38kqhb

Thanks to everyone who gave me help.

"Wessel Troost" wrote:

ip range added to zone alarm


Try uninstalling any virus scanner & personal firewall you have
installed?

 




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