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Hello,
I got Vista Basic with my new notebook. I upgrade it online with Vista Home Premium. Then I wanted to run XP in another partition but the system refused to install XP from Vista. Installing it separatly, I did not get the multiboot screen and to boot back from Vista I had to repair Vista, but then I dont have access anymore to XP. Installing XP first and then Vista, I got the multiboot screen but it did not boot with the Vista option: cannot boot from this partition. Now I am using Vista Home Premium and have XP in another partition but I cannot boot it. Does somebody has a solution to make the multiboot working ? -- With my best Regards, Jack_G |
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=?Utf-8?B?SmFja19HX1N3aXR6ZXJsYW5k?= schreef in bericht
... Hello, I got Vista Basic with my new notebook. I upgrade it online with Vista Home Premium. Then I wanted to run XP in another partition but the system refused to install XP from Vista. Installing it separatly, I did not get the multiboot screen and to boot back from Vista I had to repair Vista, but then I dont have access anymore to XP. Installing XP first and then Vista, I got the multiboot screen but it did not boot with the Vista option: cannot boot from this partition. Now I am using Vista Home Premium and have XP in another partition but I cannot boot it. Does somebody has a solution to make the multiboot working ? I think VistaBootPro can solute your problem. Bye, Bughunter. |
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As stated you can use VistaBootPro but if it doesn't work initially, copy
the boot.ini, ntdetect.com and ntldr files to the partition with Vista on it. Modify the entry in the boot.ini to make sure it points to the proper partition for XP "Jack_G_Switzerland" wrote in message ... Hello, I got Vista Basic with my new notebook. I upgrade it online with Vista Home Premium. Then I wanted to run XP in another partition but the system refused to install XP from Vista. Installing it separatly, I did not get the multiboot screen and to boot back from Vista I had to repair Vista, but then I dont have access anymore to XP. Installing XP first and then Vista, I got the multiboot screen but it did not boot with the Vista option: cannot boot from this partition. Now I am using Vista Home Premium and have XP in another partition but I cannot boot it. Does somebody has a solution to make the multiboot working ? -- With my best Regards, Jack_G |
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Jack_G_Switzerland wrote:
Hello, I got Vista Basic with my new notebook. I upgrade it online with Vista Home Premium. Then I wanted to run XP in another partition but the system refused to install XP from Vista. Installing it separatly, I did not get the multiboot screen and to boot back from Vista I had to repair Vista, but then I dont have access anymore to XP. Installing XP first and then Vista, I got the multiboot screen but it did not boot with the Vista option: cannot boot from this partition. Now I am using Vista Home Premium and have XP in another partition but I cannot boot it. Does somebody has a solution to make the multiboot working ? Normally, the older OS must be installed first unless you wish to acquire and use some 3rd-party partition and boot management utility. (In which case you have to follow the instructions provided by whatever 3rd party solution you select.) However, this KB Article (not for the faint of heart) explains how to repair the Vista boot process after installing WinXP: Windows Vista no longer starts after you install an earlier version of the Windows operating system in a dual-boot configuration http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529 However, dual-booting is no longer necessary in most situations. Why not download a Virtual Machine application, such as Microsoft's VirtualPC 2007 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/search.asp?) or Innotek's VirtualBox (http://www.virtualbox.org/) and run Win2K and your legacy applications within a virtual computer. Both are free and work with Vista. NOTE: Microsoft does not support the use of VirtualPC 2007 on Vista Home editions, but several people have reported that it works. Your results may vary. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot |
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http://apcmag.com/5485/dualbooting_vista_and_xp
Have a read of the above link "Jack_G_Switzerland" wrote: Hello, I got Vista Basic with my new notebook. I upgrade it online with Vista Home Premium. Then I wanted to run XP in another partition but the system refused to install XP from Vista. Installing it separatly, I did not get the multiboot screen and to boot back from Vista I had to repair Vista, but then I dont have access anymore to XP. Installing XP first and then Vista, I got the multiboot screen but it did not boot with the Vista option: cannot boot from this partition. Now I am using Vista Home Premium and have XP in another partition but I cannot boot it. Does somebody has a solution to make the multiboot working ? -- With my best Regards, Jack_G |
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Another, even more flexible and powerful (free) program is EasyBCD. (Esp. if you ever plan on installing something besides a MS OS.) There's a helpful write-up in the instructions of the XP-Vista incompatibility. a.k.a. "BugHunter" wrote: =?Utf-8?B?SmFja19HX1N3aXR6ZXJsYW5k?= schreef in bericht ... Hello, I got Vista Basic with my new notebook. I upgrade it online with Vista Home Premium. Then I wanted to run XP in another partition but the system refused to install XP from Vista. Installing it separatly, I did not get the multiboot screen and to boot back from Vista I had to repair Vista, but then I dont have access anymore to XP. Installing XP first and then Vista, I got the multiboot screen but it did not boot with the Vista option: cannot boot from this partition. Now I am using Vista Home Premium and have XP in another partition but I cannot boot it. Does somebody has a solution to make the multiboot working ? I think VistaBootPro can solute your problem. Bye, Bughunter. |
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Download a program called partition magic it will help you make an active
primary partition to do a dual boot. When you install use the newly created partition. Dual-boot will work using this process. or just create another PRIMARY partition using FDISK and select the new partition when installing...Whichever is easier for you. -April "Jack_G_Switzerland" wrote in message ... Hello, I got Vista Basic with my new notebook. I upgrade it online with Vista Home Premium. Then I wanted to run XP in another partition but the system refused to install XP from Vista. Installing it separatly, I did not get the multiboot screen and to boot back from Vista I had to repair Vista, but then I dont have access anymore to XP. Installing XP first and then Vista, I got the multiboot screen but it did not boot with the Vista option: cannot boot from this partition. Now I am using Vista Home Premium and have XP in another partition but I cannot boot it. Does somebody has a solution to make the multiboot working ? -- With my best Regards, Jack_G |
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yes dude, I have the solution to your problem
this is what you gotta do Scenario: You want to install Vista on your PC alongside your XP installation, on the same drive. You have installed Vista already. Tutorial Summary: We're going to use the DISKPART on the Vista DVD to shrink the Vista partition on the hard disk and create enough space for an installation of Vista. We'll then install XP, repair the Vista bootloader which will be overwritten during the XP installation, and then use the EasyBCD utility to configure Vista's bootloader to boot the XP partition. This tutorial was tested on a VMWare 6 Workstation and an AcerPower SK50 system. Prepare Windows Vista This tutorial assumes that Vista has been installed on a partition which takes up 100% of the hard drive, so we need to create some space. Boot off the Vista DVD. Hit Next from the start screen and then select “Install now”. Don’t type in your product key and untick “Automatically activate Windows when I’m online”, then hit “Next”, and “No” when asked whether you want to enter the key. When prompted to choose the edition of Vista you’re installing you can actually select any of them as we’re not doing a Vista install at this point. Also tick “I have selected the edition of Windows that I purchased” and hit “Next”. Accept the license terms and hit “Next” again, then choose a Custom installation. On the screen where you’re asked where you want to install Windows, you should see a single large partition marked Primary – this is where Vista is already installed. Press SHIFT + F10. This is a Windows PE 2.0 shortcut to open up a command window – very useful trick. Type in DISKPART and press Enter. This opens the Microsoft DiskPart application. You need to select the active disk, so type in: The primary disk is generally Disk 0, so type in: select disk 0 Now we need a list of volumes on this disk, so type in: list volume In this case Volume 0 is the one we want, so type in: select volume 0 Now type in: shrink DiskPart will go off and reclaim as much of the drive as it can – you should get at least 50% of the space back. Now type EXIT and EXIT (again) to quit the command window and get back to the install screen. Click Refresh and the partition window will update – you should now see the original Primary partition plus a brand new partition. New Partitions This is where we will install Windows XP. Eject the DVD, restart the machine (just hit the reset button) and boot off the Windows XP CD. Now, install Windows XP When the Windows XP setup reaches the point where you’re prompted where it is to be installed, you’ll see that while XP can see the space we created earlier, it can also see the partition with Vista on it. You should be able to see the space you reclaimed on the disk earlier which has become "unallocated space". Create a second partition using the Windows XP installer screen above by selecting the free space on the drive and pressing "C" to create a partition (if prompted, choose NTFS as the file system.) Irritatingly, XP assigns a drive letter to this partition (C which means that it will use the next available drive letter after all the other physical drives have been taken into account. This means that the system drive of the XP installation won’t be C:. From XP’s perspective this isn’t really a problem – it’s smart enough to figure out where everything should go – but some applications make assumptions about where they should install to, and can’t cope with a non-standard Windows configuration. This was also the case with our tutorial on dualbooting Ubuntu and XP, where Ubuntu had been installed first. However in that scenario, even though the XP system drive had a non-standard drive letter, it couldn’t read the Linux partitions so there was no danger of the two systems overlapping. This is not the case with Vista/XP. Nonetheless, install XP as normal – there’s no need to do anything differently. IMPORTANT NOTE – after the initial file copy, Windows XP reboots and loads up the GUI-based component of the install. You may get the following error: “A disk read error occurred – press Ctrl-Alt-Del to continue”. This is caused by a corrupt bootloader – click here to see how to fix this problem. When the system reboots it won’t bring up a boot menu. Although XP recognises the Vista partition it doesn’t recognise Vista itself. The Windows XP bootloader gets installed to the MBR and Vista can no longer boot. When XP loads, open up Windows Explorer and you’ll see something interesting – a C: and (in this case) an E: drive. The C: drive contains Windows Vista, and as Windows XP can read NTFS partitions, it can browse and modify Vista’s file structure. More importantly, applications which have installation paths hard-coded into their install scripts rather than using Windows system parameter variables could easily dump files into C: when they should be installing to E:. This isn’t such a great situation. Two Drives Restoring Vista and dual booting Because you can’t use the Windows XP bootloader to boot Vista, we have to reinstate Vista’s bootloader to the MBR and configure it to manage both operating systems. Compared with scenarios involving Ubuntu where you have to reinstall the GRUB bootloader, getting Vista up and operational again is very easy. Boot from the Vista DVD and on the screen where you’re prompted to “Install now”, select “Repair your computer”. The next screen searches for local Vista installations – there should only be one, so click Next. This loads the System Recovery Options screen. Select the first option – Startup Repair. This looks for problems which would prevent Vista from loading (like a missing bootloader) and automatically fixes them. If you click on “Click here for diagnostic and repair details” and scroll to the bottom of the list, it shows that the problem detected and repaired was a corrupt boot sector (according to Vista, anyway). Click Close and then Finish, and the system will restart and boot into Vista. Now we need to enable dualbooting with XP, and EasyBCD is the best application to achieve this. Download and install EasyBCD. Launch the app and go to Add/Remove Entries. Under “Add an Entry” and under the Windows tab and select in the Version drop-down list “Windows NT/2k/XP/2k3”. Change the Drive to E:\ and the name to “Windows XP”, then click “Add Entry” and “Save”. Reboot the system and you’ll have two entries in the Vista bootloader, and can boot into either operating system. Vista Bootloader Extend Volume Wizard The wizard gives you a readout on how much space is actually available to extend the partition – enter in how much you want to use and press Next. Vista will extend the system partition to reclaim the disk and Windows is well and truly gone. Fixing the corrupt bootloader If the Windows XP bootload corrupts during the install, performing a reinstall won’t fix it, nor will going into the XP Recovery Mode and attempting to repair the MBR. Luckily, the install was up to the stage where all you need to do is be able to boot from the Windows XP partition, and the install will pick up from where it left off. To achieve this, follow the procedure outlined above to restore the Vista bootloader (under "Restoring Vista and Dualbooting"). This allows the system to boot into Vista, and then you can use EasyBCD to create an XP boot entry and boot into that to continue on with XP's installation. ( for any enquiries, feel free to contact "Jack_G_Switzerland" wrote in message ... Hello, I got Vista Basic with my new notebook. I upgrade it online with Vista Home Premium. Then I wanted to run XP in another partition but the system refused to install XP from Vista. Installing it separatly, I did not get the multiboot screen and to boot back from Vista I had to repair Vista, but then I dont have access anymore to XP. Installing XP first and then Vista, I got the multiboot screen but it did not boot with the Vista option: cannot boot from this partition. Now I am using Vista Home Premium and have XP in another partition but I cannot boot it. Does somebody has a solution to make the multiboot working ? -- With my best Regards, Jack_G |
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Hello Bruce,
I tried Virtual PC 2007. It's indeed very nice but it does not support peripherals on the USB virtual ports and some other goodies... -- Thanks and Regards, Jack_G "Bruce Chambers" wrote: Jack_G_Switzerland wrote: Hello, I got Vista Basic with my new notebook. I upgrade it online with Vista Home Premium. Then I wanted to run XP in another partition but the system refused to install XP from Vista. Installing it separatly, I did not get the multiboot screen and to boot back from Vista I had to repair Vista, but then I dont have access anymore to XP. Installing XP first and then Vista, I got the multiboot screen but it did not boot with the Vista option: cannot boot from this partition. Now I am using Vista Home Premium and have XP in another partition but I cannot boot it. Does somebody has a solution to make the multiboot working ? Normally, the older OS must be installed first unless you wish to acquire and use some 3rd-party partition and boot management utility. (In which case you have to follow the instructions provided by whatever 3rd party solution you select.) However, this KB Article (not for the faint of heart) explains how to repair the Vista boot process after installing WinXP: Windows Vista no longer starts after you install an earlier version of the Windows operating system in a dual-boot configuration http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529 However, dual-booting is no longer necessary in most situations. Why not download a Virtual Machine application, such as Microsoft's VirtualPC 2007 (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/search.asp?) or Innotek's VirtualBox (http://www.virtualbox.org/) and run Win2K and your legacy applications within a virtual computer. Both are free and work with Vista. NOTE: Microsoft does not support the use of VirtualPC 2007 on Vista Home editions, but several people have reported that it works. Your results may vary. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot |
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Hello everybody,
Thank you to all of you, all your advises helped me to find this simple solution. Problem: I had a new notebook with Vista Basic on it and a recovery CD which can be installed from scratch and not from within an existing XP system. I needed to install also XP on this notebook and use the multiboot feature, migrate some applications to Vista like Office applications (not possible for all software) and data. Then I wanted to upgrade to Vista Premium and recover the Multiboot feature. See my very simple solution below. Best Regards, Jacques Gotheil, Switzerland (Mountainous country in Europe, owner of the America's cup) Solution: - A large part of the solution solution was in using the EasyBCD 1.7 freeware. - I tried also the very nice Virtual PC 2007 but it had some limitations. - After partitionning my disk I installed XP on the second partition and I modified the boot.ini files using the advanced tab of the disk propriety to create a record for booting Vista from the first partition (of course it's not enough). - I intalled the Vista Basic in the first partition and then I installed EasyBCD 1.7 of NeoSmart Technologies in Vista and used it to configure the Multiboot. - It worked ! I was able, with one more clic, to boot XP. - BUT after upgrading to Premium from Windows Live (it took hours) the switching feature did not work any more, even after reconfiguration with EasyBCD. The only way to switch to XP, was to mark the XP partition as active in the disk manager of Windows Vista and reboot (you can do the same in XP to reboot Vista). - to ovecome this situation you just need when beinng in Vista to mark the XP partition as active in the Disk Manager and then to go into EasyBCD in the Manage Bootloader area, mark the "reinstall Vista bootloader" and push the "Write MBR" button. Is'nt simple ? Hints: the error messages that appear in the multiboot while the setting is not correct are missleading. Normally, the boot files are ok. In any cases, there are some programs int the \Program files\NeoSmart Technologies\EasyBCD\bin folder(you must be in this "bin" folder to run them from a DOS window) to make sure that, for example, the bootloader files are correct (ex. "bootsect /nt60 /force C:" to reinstall the bootloader iof Vista when booted in Vista, and then "bootsect /nt52 E:" to reinstall the boot loader of XT. Be carreful to use the right drive letter because it can be different than D . I did use it but I think that it was not necessary.- Outlook 2000 does'nt work with Vista. Windows Mail is much better. The folder is under your User folder (User/AppData/Local/microsoft). The AppData is a hidden folder. I can backup and retore a whole Windows Mail directory, it works, but not individual message. I can also use the "Tranfert Files and Parameters" feature of Windows. You can install Outlook but some DLL are not compatible. So I am able to receive messages with Outlook (useless) but not send messages as the DLL for the "Contacts" does'nt work under Vista. I could transfer my Windows Address Book from Outlook to Windows Mail . To transfer messages, the only way is to send them as attachement from Outlook under XP and once in Windows Mail to paste then in a local Windows Mail folder. The storage of individual EML messages into the indexed MessageStore of Windows Mail is much more secure than the old PST files of Exchange. - Finally, a nice feature of Vista is the ability, through the Popriety screen to move the folders under your User directory to another place, i.e another disk, using the Store or Place tab (?), in my french version: "emplacement". -- Tanks and my best Regards, Jack_G "Sneh Bansal" wrote: yes dude, I have the solution to your problem this is what you gotta do Scenario: You want to install Vista on your PC alongside your XP installation, on the same drive. You have installed Vista already. Tutorial Summary: We're going to use the DISKPART on the Vista DVD to shrink the Vista partition on the hard disk and create enough space for an installation of Vista. We'll then install XP, repair the Vista bootloader which will be overwritten during the XP installation, and then use the EasyBCD utility to configure Vista's bootloader to boot the XP partition. This tutorial was tested on a VMWare 6 Workstation and an AcerPower SK50 system. Prepare Windows Vista This tutorial assumes that Vista has been installed on a partition which takes up 100% of the hard drive, so we need to create some space. Boot off the Vista DVD. Hit Next from the start screen and then select “Install now”. Don’t type in your product key and untick “Automatically activate Windows when I’m online”, then hit “Next”, and “No” when asked whether you want to enter the key. When prompted to choose the edition of Vista you’re installing you can actually select any of them as we’re not doing a Vista install at this point. Also tick “I have selected the edition of Windows that I purchased” and hit “Next”. Accept the license terms and hit “Next” again, then choose a Custom installation. On the screen where you’re asked where you want to install Windows, you should see a single large partition marked Primary – this is where Vista is already installed. Press SHIFT + F10. This is a Windows PE 2.0 shortcut to open up a command window – very useful trick. Type in DISKPART and press Enter. This opens the Microsoft DiskPart application. You need to select the active disk, so type in: The primary disk is generally Disk 0, so type in: select disk 0 Now we need a list of volumes on this disk, so type in: list volume In this case Volume 0 is the one we want, so type in: select volume 0 Now type in: shrink DiskPart will go off and reclaim as much of the drive as it can – you should get at least 50% of the space back. Now type EXIT and EXIT (again) to quit the command window and get back to the install screen. Click Refresh and the partition window will update – you should now see the original Primary partition plus a brand new partition. New Partitions This is where we will install Windows XP. Eject the DVD, restart the machine (just hit the reset button) and boot off the Windows XP CD. Now, install Windows XP When the Windows XP setup reaches the point where you’re prompted where it is to be installed, you’ll see that while XP can see the space we created earlier, it can also see the partition with Vista on it. You should be able to see the space you reclaimed on the disk earlier which has become "unallocated space". Create a second partition using the Windows XP installer screen above by selecting the free space on the drive and pressing "C" to create a partition (if prompted, choose NTFS as the file system.) Irritatingly, XP assigns a drive letter to this partition (C which means that it will use the next available drive letter after all the other physical drives have been taken into account. This means that the system drive of the XP installation won’t be C:. From XP’s perspective this isn’t really a problem – it’s smart enough to figure out where everything should go – but some applications make assumptions about where they should install to, and can’t cope with a non-standard Windows configuration. This was also the case with our tutorial on dualbooting Ubuntu and XP, where Ubuntu had been installed first. However in that scenario, even though the XP system drive had a non-standard drive letter, it couldn’t read the Linux partitions so there was no danger of the two systems overlapping. This is not the case with Vista/XP. Nonetheless, install XP as normal – there’s no need to do anything differently. IMPORTANT NOTE – after the initial file copy, Windows XP reboots and loads up the GUI-based component of the install. You may get the following error: “A disk read error occurred – press Ctrl-Alt-Del to continue”. This is caused by a corrupt bootloader – click here to see how to fix this problem. When the system reboots it won’t bring up a boot menu. Although XP recognises the Vista partition it doesn’t recognise Vista itself. The Windows XP bootloader gets installed to the MBR and Vista can no longer boot. When XP loads, open up Windows Explorer and you’ll see something interesting – a C: and (in this case) an E: drive. The C: drive contains Windows Vista, and as Windows XP can read NTFS partitions, it can browse and modify Vista’s file structure. More importantly, applications which have installation paths hard-coded into their install scripts rather than using Windows system parameter variables could easily dump files into C: when they should be installing to E:. This isn’t such a great situation. Two Drives Restoring Vista and dual booting Because you can’t use the Windows XP bootloader to boot Vista, we have to reinstate Vista’s bootloader to the MBR and configure it to manage both operating systems. Compared with scenarios involving Ubuntu where you have to reinstall the GRUB bootloader, getting Vista up and operational again is very easy. Boot from the Vista DVD and on the screen where you’re prompted to “Install now”, select “Repair your computer”. The next screen searches for local Vista installations – there should only be one, so click Next. This loads the System Recovery Options screen. Select the first option – Startup Repair. This looks for problems which would prevent Vista from loading (like a missing bootloader) and automatically fixes them. If you click on “Click here for diagnostic and repair details” and scroll to the bottom of the list, it shows that the problem detected and repaired was a corrupt boot sector (according to Vista, anyway). Click Close and then Finish, and the system will restart and boot into Vista. Now we need to enable dualbooting with XP, and EasyBCD is the best application to achieve this. Download and install EasyBCD. Launch the app and go to Add/Remove Entries. Under “Add an Entry” and under the Windows tab and select in the Version drop-down list “Windows NT/2k/XP/2k3”. Change the Drive to E:\ and the name to “Windows XP”, then click “Add Entry” and “Save”. Reboot the system and you’ll have two entries in the Vista bootloader, and can boot into either operating system. Vista Bootloader Extend Volume Wizard The wizard gives you a readout on how much space is actually available to extend the partition – enter in how much you want to use and press Next. Vista will extend the system partition to reclaim the disk and Windows is well and truly gone. Fixing the corrupt bootloader If the Windows XP bootload corrupts during the install, performing a reinstall won’t fix it, nor will going into the XP Recovery Mode and attempting to repair the MBR. Luckily, the install was up to the stage where all you need to do is be able to boot from the Windows XP partition, and the install will pick up from where it left off. To achieve this, follow the procedure outlined above to restore the Vista bootloader (under "Restoring Vista and Dualbooting"). This allows the system to boot into Vista, and then you can use EasyBCD to create an XP boot entry and boot into that to continue on with XP's installation. ( for any enquiries, feel free to contact "Jack_G_Switzerland" wrote in message ... Hello, I got Vista Basic with my new notebook. I upgrade it online with Vista Home Premium. Then I wanted to run XP in another partition but the system refused to install XP from Vista. Installing it separatly, I did not get the multiboot screen and to boot back from Vista I had to repair Vista, but then I dont have access anymore to XP. Installing XP first and then Vista, I got the multiboot screen but it did not boot with the Vista option: cannot boot from this partition. Now I am using Vista Home Premium and have XP in another partition but I cannot boot it. Does somebody has a solution to make the multiboot working ? -- With my best Regards, Jack_G |
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