All I want to know is how to get rid of the network on Vista and start
again.
In my own way I think I was happier with the problems of W98 as I felt I had
some control
I have 4 computers networked on XP.
I'm new to Vista. Started the new system, got connection to the internet
with no problems.
Allocated a workgroup name of WORKGROUP, when I really wanted WG (the name
of my existing group on XP)
I can see the Vista computer from my XP computers, but cannot see the XP
computers from Vista.
Also, for example the folder "Program Files" on C of the Vista computer has
been shared to all (no restrictions) and this shows up on the XP computers,
but they are still refused access.
I don't seem to be able to delete anything in Vista.
I want only to delete WORKGROUP in Vista and I'll start again (with more
care).
Meantime I have started to read this NG and might find answer.
Please help.
Thanks

On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 15:54:06 -0000, "AT and HMB" wrote:

All I want to know is how to get rid of the network on Vista and start
again.
In my own way I think I was happier with the problems of W98 as I felt I had
some control
I have 4 computers networked on XP.
I'm new to Vista. Started the new system, got connection to the internet
with no problems.
Allocated a workgroup name of WORKGROUP, when I really wanted WG (the name
of my existing group on XP)
I can see the Vista computer from my XP computers, but cannot see the XP
computers from Vista.
Also, for example the folder "Program Files" on C of the Vista computer has
been shared to all (no restrictions) and this shows up on the XP computers,
but they are still refused access.
I don't seem to be able to delete anything in Vista.
I want only to delete WORKGROUP in Vista and I'll start again (with more
care).
Meantime I have started to read this NG and might find answer.
Please help.
Thanks

If all computers have Internet connectivity, that's a good start. That
eliminates physical networking issues.

There are several known challenges with Windows Networking, and Windows Vista.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html

If you're having problems, sharing "C:\Program Files" isn't a good place to
start. That's considered a part of the operating system, and has default
sharing restrictions. Start with a new share that you create. When you get a
newly created folder successfully shared, then work on sharing "C:\Program
Files".

Visibility problems as you describe frequently start with misconfigured or
overlooked personal firewalls, or other security programs.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...ing-using.html

You may be able to diagnose the problems, using logs from "browstat status",
"ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net config workstation", from each
computer, so we can diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked
articles, and follow instructions precisely (Download browstat, and note how to
run a Vista command window!):
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

"Chuck [MVP]" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 15:54:06 -0000, "AT and HMB"
wrote:

All I want to know is how to get rid of the network on Vista and start
again.
In my own way I think I was happier with the problems of W98 as I felt I
had
some control
I have 4 computers networked on XP.
I'm new to Vista. Started the new system, got connection to the internet
with no problems.
Allocated a workgroup name of WORKGROUP, when I really wanted WG (the name
of my existing group on XP)
I can see the Vista computer from my XP computers, but cannot see the XP
computers from Vista.
Also, for example the folder "Program Files" on C of the Vista computer
has
been shared to all (no restrictions) and this shows up on the XP
computers,
but they are still refused access.
I don't seem to be able to delete anything in Vista.
I want only to delete WORKGROUP in Vista and I'll start again (with more
care).
Meantime I have started to read this NG and might find answer.
Please help.
Thanks

If all computers have Internet connectivity, that's a good start. That
eliminates physical networking issues.

There are several known challenges with Windows Networking, and Windows
Vista.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html

If you're having problems, sharing "C:\Program Files" isn't a good place
to
start. That's considered a part of the operating system, and has default
sharing restrictions. Start with a new share that you create. When you
get a
newly created folder successfully shared, then work on sharing "C:\Program
Files".

Visibility problems as you describe frequently start with misconfigured or
overlooked personal firewalls, or other security programs.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...ing-using.html

You may be able to diagnose the problems, using logs from "browstat
status",
"ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net config workstation", from
each
computer, so we can diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked
articles, and follow instructions precisely (Download browstat, and note
how to
run a Vista command window!):
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp

--
Cheers,

Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

started playing with browstat.
on one of the XP machines both net config server and workstation seemed OK.
On the new Vista machine workstation was OK, but net config server gave:
"system error 5 has occurred access is denied". I ran this twice with same
result.
Is that pointing to anything obvious please?
Thanks

Check to see if Vista is set to send both LM and NTLM security
responses. If you are running Ultimate or Business you can use the
security policy snap-in. Just type secpol.msc. Drill into Local Policy
- Security Options and find entry for Network security: LAN Manager
authentication level. Change the setting so that Vista will "Send both
LM & NTLM responses - use NTLMv2 session security if negotiated". If
you are running the home flavor of Vista, you need to do this in the
registry.

Open regedit and drill into: HKLM -System -CurrentControlSet
-Control - LSA
In the right pane, look for "lmcompatibilitylevel" and change the data
value from 3 to 1.


--
leberama

On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 21:08:29 -0000, "AT and HMB" wrote:


"Chuck [MVP]" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 15:54:06 -0000, "AT and HMB"
wrote:

All I want to know is how to get rid of the network on Vista and start
again.
In my own way I think I was happier with the problems of W98 as I felt I
had
some control
I have 4 computers networked on XP.
I'm new to Vista. Started the new system, got connection to the internet
with no problems.
Allocated a workgroup name of WORKGROUP, when I really wanted WG (the name
of my existing group on XP)
I can see the Vista computer from my XP computers, but cannot see the XP
computers from Vista.
Also, for example the folder "Program Files" on C of the Vista computer
has
been shared to all (no restrictions) and this shows up on the XP
computers,
but they are still refused access.
I don't seem to be able to delete anything in Vista.
I want only to delete WORKGROUP in Vista and I'll start again (with more
care).
Meantime I have started to read this NG and might find answer.
Please help.
Thanks

If all computers have Internet connectivity, that's a good start. That
eliminates physical networking issues.

There are several known challenges with Windows Networking, and Windows
Vista.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html

If you're having problems, sharing "C:\Program Files" isn't a good place
to
start. That's considered a part of the operating system, and has default
sharing restrictions. Start with a new share that you create. When you
get a
newly created folder successfully shared, then work on sharing "C:\Program
Files".

Visibility problems as you describe frequently start with misconfigured or
overlooked personal firewalls, or other security programs.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...ing-using.html

You may be able to diagnose the problems, using logs from "browstat
status",
"ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net config workstation", from
each
computer, so we can diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked
articles, and follow instructions precisely (Download browstat, and note
how to
run a Vista command window!):
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp

--
Cheers,

Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

started playing with browstat.
on one of the XP machines both net config server and workstation seemed OK.
On the new Vista machine workstation was OK, but net config server gave:
"system error 5 has occurred access is denied". I ran this twice with same
result.
Is that pointing to anything obvious please?
Thanks

Are you starting the command window as an admin ("elevated mode")?
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/06/command-window-in-windows-vista.html
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/0...ows-vista.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

I apologise to all those who have tried to help me.
I gave up and installed Vista again - very quick.
I did this very carefully and took a note of every option I was given. These
were User, Computer Name, Computer Description. At no time was I given the
option to name the workgroup of my other computers.
The new Vista configuration has recognised my existing network perfectly -
absolutely no problem.
But it has put the new configuration into a workgroup called WORKGROUP which
I obviously know is the default, but whereas in XP, the option to change the
workgroup name is given when configuring the network, I was not given any
option, what is more (and I was especially looking for this), at no time did
it state it was going to put the configuration into WORKGROUP.
I have not attempted to get round this yet and I appreciate it is my newness
to Vista that is the problem.
My existing workgroup is WG.
All I want to do is to put the new Vista system into the same workgroup (WG)
and get rid of WORKGROUP.
Help please.


"leberama" wrote in message
...

Check to see if Vista is set to send both LM and NTLM security
responses. If you are running Ultimate or Business you can use the
security policy snap-in. Just type secpol.msc. Drill into Local Policy
- Security Options and find entry for Network security: LAN Manager
authentication level. Change the setting so that Vista will "Send both
LM & NTLM responses - use NTLMv2 session security if negotiated". If
you are running the home flavor of Vista, you need to do this in the
registry.

Open regedit and drill into: HKLM -System -CurrentControlSet
-Control - LSA
In the right pane, look for "lmcompatibilitylevel" and change the data
value from 3 to 1.


--
leberama