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January 3rd 08, 01:09 AM
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Can't See Computers in Workgroup
I'm trying to connect to a printer on another PC. Both are Vista Home. One
is directly connected to router, one is wireless. Both are in the same workgroup: WORKGROUP. Network Discovery is turned. Network is private. Printer sharing is turned on. According to the MS kb directions, one is supposed to click on Network and a list of machines in the workgroup should appear. The other PC does not appear. Only the laptop that I'm on. What did I miss? This is very interesting. This used to be so much easier. 
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January 3rd 08, 02:31 AM
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Can't See Computers in Workgroup
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 18:09:02 -0800, FirstBassman
wrote: I'm trying to connect to a printer on another PC. Both are Vista Home. One is directly connected to router, one is wireless. Both are in the same workgroup: WORKGROUP. Network Discovery is turned. Network is private. Printer sharing is turned on. According to the MS kb directions, one is supposed to click on Network and a list of machines in the workgroup should appear. The other PC does not appear. Only the laptop that I'm on. What did I miss? This is very interesting. This used to be so much easier. This is generally caused by a misconfigured or overlooked personal firewall or other security program. What anti-virus protection do you use? http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...ing-using.html With WiFi involved, you could easily have a master browser conflict. You can diagnose the problem, using logs from "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net config workstation", from each computer. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (Download browstat, and note how to start a command window in Vista!): http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org.
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January 4th 08, 02:34 AM
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Can't See Computers in Workgroup
I hate to say it but you were 100% right Chuck.
THANKS! I was going to originally post that I wasn't using any personal firewall. But forgot to mention it. And then when I saw your post, I thought "Oh sure, that's the first thing someone is going to say." But you're mentioning of anti-virus made me think. I usr Symantec Endpoint Protection which, of course, includes a firewall. So I looked and Symantec does a kb article on how to set rules to allow TCP and UDP ports (on both machines) to allow fire and printer sharing. i made the changes and poof machine (and printer) appeared. Thanks again! PS: But I still think one should not have to do this in order to print on a HOME NETWORK. How are people (like my wife) who know NOTHING about networking supposed to know how to do this. =================================== "Chuck [MVP]" wrote: On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 18:09:02 -0800, FirstBassman wrote: I'm trying to connect to a printer on another PC. Both are Vista Home. One is directly connected to router, one is wireless. Both are in the same workgroup: WORKGROUP. Network Discovery is turned. Network is private. Printer sharing is turned on. According to the MS kb directions, one is supposed to click on Network and a list of machines in the workgroup should appear. The other PC does not appear. Only the laptop that I'm on. What did I miss? This is very interesting. This used to be so much easier. This is generally caused by a misconfigured or overlooked personal firewall or other security program. What anti-virus protection do you use? http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...ing-using.html With WiFi involved, you could easily have a master browser conflict. You can diagnose the problem, using logs from "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net config workstation", from each computer. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (Download browstat, and note how to start a command window in Vista!): http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org.
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January 4th 08, 06:17 PM
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Can't See Computers in Workgroup
On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 19:34:02 -0800, FirstBassman
wrote: "Chuck [MVP]" wrote: On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 18:09:02 -0800, FirstBassman wrote: I'm trying to connect to a printer on another PC. Both are Vista Home. One is directly connected to router, one is wireless. Both are in the same workgroup: WORKGROUP. Network Discovery is turned. Network is private. Printer sharing is turned on. According to the MS kb directions, one is supposed to click on Network and a list of machines in the workgroup should appear. The other PC does not appear. Only the laptop that I'm on. What did I miss? This is very interesting. This used to be so much easier. This is generally caused by a misconfigured or overlooked personal firewall or other security program. What anti-virus protection do you use? http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...ing-using.html With WiFi involved, you could easily have a master browser conflict. You can diagnose the problem, using logs from "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net config workstation", from each computer. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (Download browstat, and note how to start a command window in Vista!): http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp I hate to say it but you were 100% right Chuck. THANKS! I was going to originally post that I wasn't using any personal firewall. But forgot to mention it. And then when I saw your post, I thought "Oh sure, that's the first thing someone is going to say." But you're mentioning of anti-virus made me think. I usr Symantec Endpoint Protection which, of course, includes a firewall. So I looked and Symantec does a kb article on how to set rules to allow TCP and UDP ports (on both machines) to allow fire and printer sharing. i made the changes and poof machine (and printer) appeared. Thanks again! PS: But I still think one should not have to do this in order to print on a HOME NETWORK. How are people (like my wife) who know NOTHING about networking supposed to know how to do this. Thanks for the feedback. I share your frustration - all these security programs are like locking your door and losing the key. All that we can do is remind folks to understand what they've installed (or what has been installed for them). I'm just glad that YOU were able to recognise Symantec Endpoint Protection as being the culprit. -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org.
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