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Old January 3rd 08, 03:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Semper I
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Default Network Vista and XP

Trying to network XP pro with Vista Ultimate. I installed the LLtd Responder
patch on XP. When i go to network map on vista I can see the XP machine but
can not browse shared files or even click on the icon for it? I can't get
the XP machine to see vista. Both have the same workgroup name. What am i
doing wrong?
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Old January 3rd 08, 03:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Semper I[_2_]
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"Semper I" wrote:

Trying to network XP pro with Vista Ultimate. I installed the LLtd Responder
patch on XP. When i go to network map on vista I can see the XP machine but
can not browse shared files or even click on the icon for it? I can't get
the XP machine to see vista. Both have the same workgroup name. What am i
doing wrong? The computers are connected directly not through a router.

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Old January 3rd 08, 04:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Malke
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Default Network Vista and XP

Semper I wrote:

"Semper I" wrote:

Trying to network XP pro with Vista Ultimate. I installed the LLtd Responder
patch on XP. When i go to network map on vista I can see the XP machine but
can not browse shared files or even click on the icon for it? I can't get
the XP machine to see vista. Both have the same workgroup name. What am i
doing wrong? The computers are connected directly not through a router.


Just installing the LLTD Responder doesn't set up LAN file sharing. In
fact, I've never installed the Responder and have successfully set up
quite a few networks for clients over the past year that Vista's been
available. Here are general network troubleshooting steps. Not
everything may be applicable to your situation, so just take the bits
that are. It may look daunting, but if you follow the steps at the links
and suggestions below systematically and calmly, you will have no
difficulty in setting up your sharing.

*****
Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer
Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as
files and folders:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx

For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see
caveat in Item A below).

Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally
caused by 1) a misconfigured firewall; or 2) inadvertently running two
firewalls such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party
firewall; and/or 3) not having identical user accounts and passwords on
all Workgroup machines; 4) trying to create shares where the operating
system does not permit it.

For XP and Windows 2003 Server, MVP Hans-Georg Michna has an excellent
small network troubleshooter. It may also be useful with Vista.

http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm

Here are some general networking tips for home/small networks:

A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network
(LAN) traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing
File/Printer Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network
Setup Wizard on XP will take care of this for those machines.The only
"gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you
aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus with
"Internet Worm Protection" (like Norton 2006/07) which acts as a
firewall, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually
configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be
192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct
subnet. Do not run more than one firewall.

B. For ease or organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup.
This is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab.

C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do
not need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the
passwords assigned to each user account can be different; the
accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all machines. If you
wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular
user's account) for convenience, you can do this. The instructions at
this link work for both XP and Vista:

Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm

D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center:

1. If you need Pro's ability to set fine-grained permissions, turn off
Simple File Sharing (Folder OptionsView tab) and create identical user
accounts/passwords on all computers.

2. If you don't care about using Pro's advanced features, leave the
Simple File Sharing enabled. Simple File Sharing means that Guest
(network) is enabled. This means that anyone without a user account on
the target system can use its resources. This is a security hole but
only you can decide if it matters in your situation.

E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users'
home directories (My Documents) or Program Files, but you can share
folders inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the
Shared Documents folder. See the first link above for details about
Vista sharing.
*****

Malke
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Old January 4th 08, 03:03 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Paul Knudsen[_2_]
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On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 08:45:01 -0800, Semper I Semper
wrote:

When i go to network map on vista I can see the XP machine but
can not browse shared files or even click on the icon for it? I can't get
the XP machine to see vista.


Try Network Magic. Solved networking for me. There's a free trial.
GIYF.
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Old January 4th 08, 09:21 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
sudharsan
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Super thanks Very much


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Old January 23rd 08, 12:53 AM posted to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing
Vitaliy
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Default Network Vista and XP

It seems to be common problem in Vista. Does Microsoft have it as known bug?
Also, it seems that the password is required in Vista to login from XP. Can
Vista user have no password and be able to login from XP?

"Semper I" wrote:

Trying to network XP pro with Vista Ultimate. I installed the LLtd Responder
patch on XP. When i go to network map on vista I can see the XP machine but
can not browse shared files or even click on the icon for it? I can't get
the XP machine to see vista. Both have the same workgroup name. What am i
doing wrong?

 




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